Darryl Sydor asks Pittsburgh Penguins for trade

by FrankD on Oct 27, 2008 2:01 PM EDT in News Comment 18 comments

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I was going to include this in t his morning's Crashing the Net installment , but I didn't want it to get buried. Frankly, I feel it's worthy of a bit more attention.

So in case you missed it this past weekend, Darryl Sydor asked the Penguins for a trade.

Read on...

Defenseman Darryl Sydor, who returned to the lineup this past week due to Hal Gill's injury, has asked the Penguins for a trade. Sydor knows substantial ice-time won't come with the Penguins, especially when injured defenseman Ryan Whitney returns in December from a foot injury. The Penguins will be more willing to move Sydor upon Whitney's return.

Trib-Review

Part of me can't blame the guy, ya know? It's not like he's getting the sort of a respect a veteran defenseman wants. I'm not saying he necessarily deserves it, especially with all of the negativity surrounding his alleged tense relationship with Michel Therrien last season. That's the sort of thing you keep in the locker room.

The other part of me however wants to know 'why,' in a general sense.

Why does Therrien keep him scratched when he's, in my humble opinion, playing well out there? Why does Therrien treat him like the odd man out when he netted a goal this past weekend and showed some excellent play in the Pens' zone?

And then there's the when - when will the Pens get rid of him?

The what - what can the Pens get for him? If I had to guess I'd say not much. And, much like the Trib-Review said, the Pens will be more comfortable moving him when Whitney returns.

Admired as a professional athlete, you have to hope that Sydor won't go out there and dog it just because he doesn't want to play in Pitt anymore. Hopefully this won't come off as a Manny Ramirez on ice spectacle. But I personally just feel Sydor has been unwelcomed since he came to the team two seasons ago.

Thoughts?

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I always thought that Sydor didn’t get the ice time that I felt he came to the team for. This news doesn’t surprise me at all.

Let's go Pens!

by JDunman on Oct 27, 2008 3:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I agree. He deserves much more credit than Therrien is giving him. For the sake of team morale and I’d only imagine the awkwardness of a locker room where you know a guy wants nothing to do with the team, let’s end the misery and send him packing.

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by FrankD on Oct 27, 2008 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed, I like the guys play but with our talent at D here he will always be the scratched guy. I think we should just trade him and get a minor leaguer out of it.

by steelcitykid on Oct 27, 2008 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hmm. Well, perhaps an “advanced” minor leaguer, but if anything I’d like to see us get someone with NHL experience. It’s bad enough we have a new guy like Goligoski on the blue line for us. And while that’s all good and great and has yet to have any real negative impact on the team, I just want the reassurance of knowing we have a talented and tested NHL player on-call if needed.

Either way you look at it, I think it’ll be a one-for-one deal or the lesser half of a package deal. Jordan Staal’s contract is up after this season. I’ve already said it before, but if the Penguins don’t think they’ll have money for him next season and need a huge move before the deadline, he could be on the outs. Much like Hossa in Atlanta last season…

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by FrankD on Oct 27, 2008 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

"Future Considerations"

Maybe something can be worked out with Phoenix since they did give you Zigomanis for future considerations and they could use another Dman since Hale is like having empty ice. Maybe once Whitney comes back…

by Travis Hair on Oct 27, 2008 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Doesn’t sound like a bad idea. Couldn’t hurt to get some future considerations and focus on some D-men in the minors. With all of the call ups over the past two season on the blue line, I’m pretty sure we’re going to start running thing in that department.

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by FrankD on Oct 27, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree with both of you. I feel like he’s a pretty good D-man, it’s always been strange with MT’s utilization of him. Maybe MT knows something we don’t, but it doesn’t seem like it.

by JDMaker1 on Oct 27, 2008 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

When you said utilization it totally made me think of when MT put him on the wing. That didn’t work out all too well.

Just like last season when Orpik was put on the wing.

Maybe he just doesn’t know how to manage his defense. I mean, no defenseman wants to feel out of place so much, but in true athletic fashion they’ll say something like, “just doing what’s best for the team.” But deep down we all know they’re asking, “WHAT…THE…HELL?”

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by FrankD on Oct 27, 2008 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah Sydor is either number seven or eight when Whit comes back, he is good but just simply not better then any of the guys in front of him. Also when Whit comes back who sits then? I would say Gill. Orpik and Scuds are locks, GoGo needs to stay and Tangs play will get better I think. Eaton is solid so……..?

by steelcitykid on Oct 27, 2008 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Eaton is very injury prone. I’m not exactly wishing bad luck on the guy, but you never know if he’ll be “forced” to sit down the road.

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by FrankD on Oct 27, 2008 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I wonder if the Bolts would take him back.

by R.J. Anderson on Oct 27, 2008 7:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

In exchange for which former Pen? ;-)

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by FrankD on Oct 27, 2008 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Malone?

by JDMaker1 on Oct 27, 2008 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Gladly. He doesn’t seem to be fairing too well with the Lightning. Perhaps a return to Pitt is exactly what he needs.

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by FrankD on Oct 27, 2008 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah the Lightning are having trouble. I didn’t think about that, but they NEED help on Defense and Melrose seems to like elders so Sydor would fit and getting Malone back would be great. Also, people are probally sick of this but I would love to see Colby Armstrong back in the Burgh. Maybe make a deal with ATL? Either way he will be gone.

by steelcitykid on Oct 27, 2008 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think getting Malone is financially impossible. I mean, when the Pens didn’t want to hold onto him it was obvious. Malone says there is no bad blood but there has to be. They shafted him bad.

A Colby-like player is exactly the kind of trade value Sydor has. I wouldn’t expect a guy like Malone or even a big scorer, but just someone who may be able to put up 12 goals or so from time to time and play both sides of the puck. But Colby is getting his share of attention in Atlanta – they’ve already made him an alternate captain. So basically, your guess is as good as mine and everyone else’s at this point.

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by FrankD on Oct 27, 2008 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I was happily surprised when I saw that Colby had the A. Despite being on another team, you can’t help but root for some of the former Pens. I feel the same about Malone…when they’re not playing the Pens, of course. If nothing else, getting Colby back would make the car commercial relevant again (which still won’t keep me from using it if Max gets in a fight).

I can’t say I’ve been overly wrapped up in the season thus far (life’s a tad busy at the moment) but do you think it’s a good idea to send out Sydor when we’re down Gonchar and Whitney (if you haven’t heard from someone by now)? Is Sydor even getting much playing time? I really need to look all this up.

Let's go Pens!

by JDunman on Oct 28, 2008 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sydor isn’t getting much playing time at all. That was the root of this entire situation because he felt that a team with its two top D-men down should turn to guys like Sydor. I for one back him on that. But he was scratched or, in one instance, tossed on the LW to fill the roster out for a game.

In actuality, I guess moving Sydor before Whit and Gonch return isn’t the worst that can happen. After all, he’s not getting much time as it is. But I just want to know we have a competent D-man around should we need him.

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by FrankD on Oct 28, 2008 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs