No Holmstrom for Game 4??

by JDMaker1 on May 30, 2008 2:38 PM EDT Comment 12 comments

After a 3-2 loss against Pittsburgh last night, the Wings have another concern to add to the list. Forward Tomas Holmstrom left the game with just over six minutes remaining after a Hal Gill cross check and did not return. He was seen limping as he exited Mellon Arena. - Christy from Winging it in Motown.

Editor's Note: Promoted from fanposts [FrankD]

A couple of thoughs:

1.) Good, I don't like seeing people hurt, but I don't want him playing either. I think he's a pain, annoying, etc . . . and I also think he's kinda a dirty player (Just my opinion).

2.) He didn't get hurt on a cross-check. He got hurt storming the net and flipping over Hal's leg. I don't think it was a dirty play on Hal's part at all, and it's about time Hal finally got the better end of a Holmstrom-Gill run-in.

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No cross-check. Gill was keeping him out of the slot; doing his job. This is where you and I have to shutter a bit in consideration of scratching Gill in favor of Sydor because frankly the guy was holding his own and keeping everything away from Fleury.

I’ve heard everything from sports hernia, to back spasms, to hip sprain. I’m not concerned about it either way. If he plays Detroit won’t have any excuses when they lose. If he doesn’t then prepare to hear, “You play dirty. We didn’t have Holmstrom.”

Yeah? We didn’t have Crosby for a good part of the year either.

FrankD from Pensburgh.com

by FrankD on May 30, 2008 4:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Apples to Oranges. You have Crosby now and he’s healthy. Whining about that is like saying, well Lidstrom was out in March. Holstrom is an integral part of the Re Wings team game.

And watching the play, it wasn’t mere entanglement, Gill tripped him up and got away with it….and then some, if that’s where he got hurt. I don’t think it was dirty, but it should have been called a penalty.

Gill was only called for one crosscheck in game 3, but he was doing it all night on Holstrom, including one to the back of the head that wasn’t called.

Just curious, why do you say Holstrom is a dirty player? He’s tough to move out in front of the net, but that’s doesn’t make a guy dirty. Just your regularly scheduled Wings hate, or do you actually have something in mind?

by ahtrap on May 30, 2008 5:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

He is a dirty player. He’s not dirty in the sense that he two hands people in the knee caps Tanya Harding style or anything like that. He just takes the occasional cheap shot.

I like the way he plays, and I’d kill to have someone like that on the Penguins. He’s as tough as nails. But when I was watching the game the other night, I kept noticing little cheap shots (and no I don’t remember them specifically).

by JDMaker1 on May 30, 2008 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Technically, Tanya Harding didn’t club anyone. The crowbar fell out of her bodyguards hands, hit the ground, stood up on an angle and slammed into Kerigan’s leg. She’s just a victim of association.

Anyways, Gill and Holmstrom were going at it all night. Gill kept him out and Holmstrom kept trying to get back in. I definitely think there were a good amount of hits delivered to Holmstrom that were without a doubt questionable. Same goes for Holmstrom on Gill. But if the refs are going to let it go and not call on either side, then I say let them play.

With that being said, I don’t advocate hurting another guy either. But perhaps that’s the level it elevates to if the refs don’t start the game with calls and lay down the law in terms of what the guys can get away with.

FrankD from Pensburgh.com

by FrankD on May 30, 2008 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, I know Gill was cross-checking him in the crease . . . but that’s hockey.

Holmstrom definitely went down easy a few times after a shot went by him however. For a guy that takes a beating all day long he definitely picks the time and place where a cross check puts him on the ground.

I think it was good hockey either way. The Pens need a guy who well stand in the crease and take it all day long (Roberts/Malone kind of fill the role).

by JDMaker1 on May 30, 2008 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Tanya Harding appreciates that defense, I’m pretty sure it’s the only one she’s ever gotten.

A video on TSN is showing Holmstrom saying it was his hamstring, and it’s feeling better, so he’s hoping to play on Sat.

http://watch.tsn.ca/nhl/clip56529#clip56529

by Dayna on May 30, 2008 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Does this mean we can expect some harsh words between Holmstrom and Gillzilla?

FrankD from Pensburgh.com

by FrankD on May 30, 2008 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i knew something was off

like my missing “m” in holmstrom, it looked bad but I couldn’t put my finger on it….

Thing is, I totally agree that the stuff that was going on in front of the net was legit hockey…..I think I mentioned it during the game 3 open thread, the fact that I like Hal Gill….I used to use him all the time in nhl late 90-something…..it’s too bad he was stuck on crappy bruins teams all that time or he would get more credit….

the trip, though….should have been called, and it was at a critical time, so….oh well, in the past, hope he can play, because Darren McCarty can’t keep his butt out of the penalty box, if he’s in the lineup against the Pens, except Sid and Malkin to go wild….

by ahtrap on May 31, 2008 2:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

hah no worries – we don’t chastise for spelling here. In fact I didn’t even notice it till you mentioned…

Dig the video game references – I curse incessantly when I try to make him catch up with a loose puck in NHL 08. He just doesn’t have any speed. Somewhat realistic I suppose.

I think Holmstrom is going to be a game-time decision. I’ll keep my eyes open for any articles that come up today, but I’ll be running around a bit too.

FrankD from Pensburgh.com

by FrankD on May 31, 2008 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

the demolition man...

Haven’t heard anybody call him that in a while. What always surprises me about him is how skilled a player he really is. He’s a much better passer than people realize, and thinks the game well. Guys like that are invaluable to their clubs, but unfortunately, when their bodies start to give their games drop off significantly. Pens fans saw this with Stevens, Tocchet, and most recently Leclair. Your body is only meant for so much of a pounding.

Gill has been a really really good pickup for us. Doing exactly what we need him to do, and not doing what he can’t do. Kudos to Shero yet again.

I really wish that we could keep this particular team intact for another year. I’m definintely NOT giving up on this series, but its fairly obvious what the potential would be for this particular roster.

by killer93 on May 31, 2008 9:36 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Part of me thinks the “new” NHL didn’t expect a roster like this to happen. In reality it’s impossible to hold ($$$), requires some sacrifice to put together (Colby, Christensen, Espo, 1st Rnd Pick) and looks kind of stupid if you don’t win the cup. I think Shero was the first to really execute something like this in the new system. I guess the real task comes in the offseason though.

FrankD from Pensburgh.com

by FrankD on May 31, 2008 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Holmstrom playing

Detroit Red Wing forward Tomas Holmstrom expects to play in Game 4 and will skate on Saturday morning before making a final decision. The lower body injury is not related to the groin injury that kept him out for 13 games in March. Coach Mike Babcock says its a hamstring injury and expects him to play. – TSN

FrankD from Pensburgh.com

by FrankD on May 31, 2008 11:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs