Stanley Cup Finals - Game 4 [Open Thread]
by FrankD on May 31, 2008 7:00 PM EDT
in Game Open Threads
Email
Print
In Pittsburgh at 8:00 p.m.
Watch on NBC, Yahoo! or listen live on WXDX.com.
NOTES
From the Penguins' web site:
The Penguins are 17-0 at Mellon Arena since Feb. 24, and goalie Marc-Andre Fleury hasn't lost there in six months, going 19-0 since the night before Thanksgiving. Now that's a home-ice advantage.
Listen, I'm not one to say Sidney Crosby doesn't dive. Frankly, I'm not an advocate of it in any degree of the term for ANY team. But there is a sense of mild humility when Pittsburgh turns around and says Holmstrom dives . I can see where they stand trying to play a mental game with the Wings and all, but I don't know how I feel about that statement. Wings fans since Game 3 have been voicing concerns over Holmstrom's injury because it was, in their eyes, an uncalled penalty. Through the frames of the black and gold glasses it would appear to just be a small part of what wound up being a long game worth of pushing and shoving between Gill and Holmstrom. Believe me, I'd prefer the latter. But to go out there and say it was a dive is just - well, out there.
In either case, Holmstrom is a game-time decision. Rumors would suggest he's expected in the lineup tonight.
Here's an interesting read on the Pittsburgh fan base. It's amazing the limits fans will go to do listen/watch games.
D.O. from the SBNation Buffalo Sabres blog Die By The Blade did a great write-up on the former Pen Matthew Barnaby. Remember him?
236 comments
|
0 recs |
Do you like this story?
Comments
how retardiculous is this?
Been home 20 minutes, can’t find my cable remote, and….so I can’t turn it to freakin’ nbc….i’m stuck watching women’s college softball until I find the darn thing…..
of course, they are easier on the eyes than those hockey guys, by far….
haha – sorry to hear that. You best hunt down that remote ASAP.
watch from here in the meantime if need be:
FrankD from Pensburgh.com
Hey party people
Long time, no see. Whats with the two days off with no traveling to be done? Cleary to play on first line and McCarty is in, GETER DONE!
NHL BLOG: http://nhlhockeycentral.blogspot.com/
Please check it out, I love to write.
I don’t know what the no-travel thing was all about. Especially when you consider Saturdays are a worse night for rating than Fridays. Who knows?
FrankD from Pensburgh.com
Well – I’d like to think they did it in respect to the Detroit game. But that wasn’t the case for Game 3 so, as Dunman said, there is no logic whatsoever.
FrankD from Pensburgh.com
found it!
What did I miss? (kidding)
I’m glad I could only see those first few minutes through a haze of snow, otherwise….
I am here...
Detroit came out with the intensity but Pittsburgh struck first. Then the intense play of Detroit paid off. I’m not quite sure who is playing better or even what I should be thinking at this point…
THANKS LIDSTROM
I was steaming from the Hossa goal, now I can relax a little bit.
NHL BLOG: http://nhlhockeycentral.blogspot.com/
Please check it out, I love to write.
2 Random thoughts
1) followup to the Mitch Albom thing from yesterday. while turning my apartment upside down looking for the remote, I found my copy of “Fab Five”, his ‘fictional’ account of Chris Webber and company’s travails at Michigan
2) And this would make FAR more sense if you guys wandered over to Mile High Hockey in the past couple of days, but I decided I couldn’t take a chance on waiting for Kristen Bell, and gave my girlfriend an engagement ring yesterday….
Congrats man
Hope all goes well.
NHL BLOG: http://nhlhockeycentral.blogspot.com/
Please check it out, I love to write.
Congrats
1) It’ll make great firewood
2) At least you didn’t make the promise you’d only propose if the Avs won the Cup. Sorry to say, but you’d die a lonely man ;-) buh dum tis.
Just kiddin brah.
FrankD from Pensburgh.com
I think...
They aren’t calling everything, but there are many penalties being committed that must be called…
And now to the woonnnnnnnnnderful NBC intermission report. Any distractions would be welcome.
Bring hockey back to Louisville!
Think he can do one of those crazy breakdance moves where he spins on his head?
Bring hockey back to Louisville!
i have no doubt about it. It seems like once the network loses Darren Pang, they immediately go for a look-alike.
FrankD from Pensburgh.com
here we go again
First period was pretty good on both sides, pretty even, a couple of chances both ways, Pens had the better of the penalties. lessee what the 2nd period brings….
Actually it’s amazing what people sponsor. I used to work with a minor league baseball team in my area that had everything from strikeouts (ceiling “fan” and light store), injuries (healthcare center) and home runs were sponsored by a mortgage company.
FrankD from Pensburgh.com
it was more like “And Smith is down with an injury. Just a reminder, this injury is brought to you by…”
And a radio station in the area was K 98.5, so every strikeout was eventually sponsored by “The K.” Ugh, so nauseating thinking about that.
FrankD from Pensburgh.com
Sounds like the healthcare center was hoping for injuries, And the way you said a reminder about who the injury was sponsored by made me think of an orderly hanging in the shadows around the dugout hitting players in the knees with a baseball bat
It's great...
These continuous minutes of play that we’ve seen in the last few games is some good hockey…
I think they shot right into him. I think whoever was on the Pens that hit Zett before is lucky because Zetterberg almost sold that.
FrankD from Pensburgh.com
if you’re talking about Crosby’s shot they just replayed, it looks like Osgood got his arm up to stop it
plus thousands of warm-blooded humans in the crowd breathing and screaming heavily in an enclosed area doesn’t help either.
FrankD from Pensburgh.com
by second period at Mellon the ice normally gets pretty crazy. They actually had 2 more air-conditioners installed in the Flyers series, but considering the state of the ice at the moment I’d imagine they are those small window units.
FrankD from Pensburgh.com
small?
They showed the air conditioners on Comcast Sports Net (Philly’s sports coverage) during the series. The air-conditioners are HUGE!!!
third period both teams trade blades for roller skates – quads actually, and come out playing roller hockey.
FrankD from Pensburgh.com
Not a bad idea...
That is a much better idea than mine. I was going to say to just let the ice melt completely and then play water polo…
ya know, these sticks may not necessarily suck so much. There is a lot of hacking going on out there and chances are they’re getting chipped away and snapping when they hit the puck.
FrankD from Pensburgh.com
hmmm….doubt it. It’s not like the sticks are scraping the surface beneath the ice or anything, but a lot of hacking in the plays could definitely be playing a part in it.
FrankD from Pensburgh.com
Damn
Overtime would be the death of me if it happens!
NHL BLOG: http://nhlhockeycentral.blogspot.com/
Please check it out, I love to write.
The Pens are looking really good. Power plays are definitely key in this game for both teams and the penalty kills are just as pertinent. It really is just great hockey defined.
FrankD from Pensburgh.com
but the longer this game goes the crappier the ice gets and the weirder the puck jumps. We might see a really bizarre goal seal this thing.
FrankD from Pensburgh.com
Im way to into this
My heart is just thumping hardcore during Pittsburgh power plays.
NHL BLOG: http://nhlhockeycentral.blogspot.com/
Please check it out, I love to write.
These announcers suck – talking over one another, banter banter – obnoxious.
FrankD from Pensburgh.com
Oh I do – but it doesn’t matter what half those chicks say; they’re pretty nice to look at.
FrankD from Pensburgh.com
hello everyone...
Promised to stop by tonight for Game 4, but I had to forfeit anytime PC time with nasty thunderstorms moving through New York during the first period and saw the high majority of the action through 40 minutes…
An important goal for Marian Hossa got the Penguins going, no doubt about that. I saw fire in him tonight I had not seen much if any during his tenure in Atlanta, maybe even Ottawa.
But the Red Wings for how good they are showed it in bouncing back fairly quickly. But credit goes to both goalies for their exceptional play since then. What a defensive struggle, but a good one. So much physical play.
Should be a solid, yet pivotal third period.
And by the way, I’d rather take a peek at “The Rookie” starring Dennis Quaid during the intermission than hear Pierre McGuire and Mike Milbury talk nonsense.
by cityhockeyfever on May 31, 2008 10:03 PM EDT reply actions
Ugh, and that movie is absolutely horrible…and yet I have to agree I’d rather give it a look too.
FrankD from Pensburgh.com
it's okay, but not great
“The Rookie” has a predictable storyline like a lot of those feel good sports movies. It is on ABC right now. Now that the game has resumed, I have no need to watch the movie.
by cityhockeyfever on May 31, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Technically construction on the new place already started. But I guess breaking ground doesn’t constitute as construction.
FrankD from Pensburgh.com
OMG
YESYEYSYESYEYESYESYES!!!!
NHL BLOG: http://nhlhockeycentral.blogspot.com/
Please check it out, I love to write.
whoa, Red Wings score already?
Goals off turnovers are the worst kind against a team. Jiri Hudler scoring there. Now do the Penguins respond the same way the Red Wings did in the first period?
by cityhockeyfever on May 31, 2008 10:13 PM EDT reply actions
Pretty perfect backhand – hate to admit it. Nicked the gear but just not enough.
FrankD from Pensburgh.com
Regardless of that play, I’ve always felt goalies should be exempt from that penalty (unless in shooting position).
FrankD from Pensburgh.com
Hopefully they hit Hossa coming out of the box if they can kill this thing off.
FrankD from Pensburgh.com
yeah but not so much on the pk. Malone is deadly there and hopefully, like I said, they can try and find him leaving the box when it’s up…
FrankD from Pensburgh.com
he wrapped Malkin’s face up. That was a roughing call earlier in the game on Detroit.
FrankD from Pensburgh.com
He should be...
If the Pens don’t score in the next ten minutes, this game will be over. He knows going back to Detroit down three games to one basically seals the deal for Detroit to win the Cup…
by falcon02520 on May 31, 2008 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
that's a huge penalty...
First penalty of the entire series for Lilja? Interesting time to commit one.
by cityhockeyfever on May 31, 2008 10:27 PM EDT reply actions
Yea, they think they are making the game look better, but it is just annoying…
by falcon02520 on May 31, 2008 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah no lie. I just still can’t accept that Osgood is ‘that’ good though, ya know? And it’s no offense to him and/or Wings fans, but i just don’t see it. And yes, I know he’s a vet and all but I’m still not convinced – the same way other fans of the NHL aren’t convinced Fleury is good.
FrankD from Pensburgh.com
I had my doubts as well, but I was convinced his three wins in a row before he went down were the first signs of a solid run.
FrankD from Pensburgh.com
I'm telling ya...
It’s been Detroit defense that has been the reason for the low scoring of Pittsburgh. Osgood just gets the credit…
by falcon02520 on May 31, 2008 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
CHF will love this one, but when I think of goaltenders who changed the course of a series I think of Mike Richter. That guy was just all over the place for the Rangers when they won and is still one of the more memorable Stanley Cups I’ve seen.
FrankD from Pensburgh.com
sure do love that reference!
Mike Richter is awesome! I think immediately of his penalty shot save against Pavel Bure.
As Cameron said in “Ferris Bueller’s Day Off”, (in regards to #35) “you’re my hero”. LOL.
by cityhockeyfever on May 31, 2008 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Osgood's been solid tonight
Pens have had a couple of chances where it was all Osgood….thinking of that bang bang three shot sequence in the second period….
yeah but bang bang bang quick shots just to chip them in. no time to set em up because of the D.
FrankD from Pensburgh.com
could be pivotal penalty kill of series
That could’ve been the turning of the entire series, that Detroit penalty kill right there. If this was the first three rounds when on a 5-on-3, Pittsburgh might’ve scored on it.
And yes, what an amazing defensive play by Henrik Zetterberg intercepting that pass and maintaining puck possession, a shot on goal, a retrieval of the puck in the Penguins zone AND killing time off the penalty clock.
by cityhockeyfever on May 31, 2008 10:34 PM EDT reply actions
WOW
Zetterberg saved a goal off of Crosby’s stick with a great defensive play on that PK. Zetterberg= my messiah.
NHL BLOG: http://nhlhockeycentral.blogspot.com/
Please check it out, I love to write.
His confidence is back. I think we can’t call off the suicide watch on Adam.
FrankD from Pensburgh.com
right now, Zetterberg is their savior tonight
I agree, that defensive play is the difference to this point.
by cityhockeyfever on May 31, 2008 10:36 PM EDT reply actions
huge stop by Fleury on Cleary
what a stick save just now by Fleury at the goal line… may have saved the game for Pittsburgh at the moment
by cityhockeyfever on May 31, 2008 10:40 PM EDT reply actions
good play by the Pen to race back, save as much time on the icing, too often, when there’s no pressure, the D just take it easy back, whoever that was had their head in their game
methinks they need to have it so you can tell the difference between a reply window and a new comment window….that was referring to orpik
That's all folks...
A series is never over at three games to one… except for this one. Detroit has just been too good for the young Pens, but we can all tell this won’t be their last finals appearance…
I can breathe!
Winning three in a row, TWO of them at the Joe, will be near impossible for the Penguins…
NHL BLOG: http://nhlhockeycentral.blogspot.com/
Please check it out, I love to write.
I know
I will still be nervous as hell next game but evens Pens fans gotta admit that the odds are against them big time.
NHL BLOG: http://nhlhockeycentral.blogspot.com/
Please check it out, I love to write.
and two of them at the Joe
It will be tough.
NHL BLOG: http://nhlhockeycentral.blogspot.com/
Please check it out, I love to write.
Crosby has no reason to complain to or about Zetterberg. Zett straight-up outplayed him tonight.
FrankD from Pensburgh.com
That is nice to hear from a Penguins fan. I agree…
by falcon02520 on May 31, 2008 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Nothing Against the Pens
but they are toast. Disappointing doesn’t even describe it. Wings for the Cup is just wrong on so many levels…
Don't Go, Joe!
If the friggin' Long Island Fishsticks won a Cup, I would feel the same
the very last thing I want to see in my lifetime is the Islanders win a Cup
by cityhockeyfever on May 31, 2008 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
now the Penguins are forced to win on the road (I know, DUH)
credit Detroit’s defensive performance tonight… that won the game for them
that 5-on-3 power play for Pittsburgh where they didn’t capitalize… that might be the turning point of the series, but the Penguins have been good all season, so there’s no reason to believe it’s over yet
by cityhockeyfever on May 31, 2008 10:48 PM EDT reply actions
Did you see Zetterberg on Crosby during that sequence.
Not much Crosby could do there and it was SO close. Zetterberg played it perfectly.
NHL BLOG: http://nhlhockeycentral.blogspot.com/
Please check it out, I love to write.
talking to someone else.
Not you…...
NHL BLOG: http://nhlhockeycentral.blogspot.com/
Please check it out, I love to write.
see my ArmchairGM interview... just ask Frank
I said before this matchup was finalized that the one duo that can match Crosby and Malkin is Datsyuk and Zetterberg, hands down… they’ve proven it through five games
by cityhockeyfever on May 31, 2008 10:51 PM EDT reply actions
blank”>http://www.armchairgm.com/index.php?title=Article:Resident_Interview(05/13/08)
by falcon02520 on May 31, 2008 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
umm…
blank”>http://www.armchairgm.com/index.php?title=Article:Resident_Interview(05/23/08)
by falcon02520 on May 31, 2008 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
ok, finally
look forward to the recap Frank
see you all on Monday
by falcon02520 on May 31, 2008 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I wonder how Hasek feels getting the plug pulled on him earlier in the playoffs.
FrankD from Pensburgh.com
He is supporting the team and especially Osgood pretty well actually.
and its not like he can complain, alls he has to do i look at the results so far. He may come back next year to back up Osgood even!
NHL BLOG: http://nhlhockeycentral.blogspot.com/
Please check it out, I love to write.
I don’t think he’d want to end his career as a backup. Perhaps take the Belfour trip to Europe move.
FrankD from Pensburgh.com
What is it with Detroit, they have so many older guys that should have reached retirement years ago, Thats not a knock on the players(although i do hate them) but you’ve got Chelios at 45, Hasek’s in his 40’s Osgoods around 40(I think) and they had Gordie Howe playing in his 50’s. Is it their rink being smaller(I heard that somewhere but not sure if it’s true) or do they just have really good trainers. In which case the Avs need to steal them.
Yeah the guys are pretty old, but Chelios has been a scratch, Hasek is on the bench and Ozzie has a good defense backing him up. So I guess it comes down to a goal or two and that’s all ya need. Walkers, wheelchairs and canes await them after each game.
FrankD from Pensburgh.com
Thats just what the said on CBC before the game
and I read a article about it on detroitfreepress.com
NHL BLOG: http://nhlhockeycentral.blogspot.com/
Please check it out, I love to write.
Can't remember who it was written by
Also, I think CBC was just relaying what Hasek told them. I’m not sure if I want them to re-sign him, I think its time to give Howard a legitimate shot, he has been waiting for a long time.
NHL BLOG: http://nhlhockeycentral.blogspot.com/
Please check it out, I love to write.
Can’t keep a future goalie on the bench for too long. Next year might be a good time, especially when you consider the age of the guys in front of him.
FrankD from Pensburgh.com
hope to catch ya back here on Monday...
Should be interesting to see how Game 5 unfolds. My original prediction had the series going to a sixth game, so obviously Pittsburgh will have to show what they’re made of when facing true adversity at its highest.
by cityhockeyfever on May 31, 2008 11:01 PM EDT reply actions
Comments For This Post Are Closed
Secondary Sidebar
User Tools
FanPosts
Community blog posts and discussion.
Recent FanPosts
In Association With
Latest Puck Daddy - NHL from Yahoo! Sports
- No Hanzal, no Aucoin for Coyotes in Game 3 vs. Kings; Hal Gill, pylon (Playoff Puck Previews)
- Tom Renney’s contract not renewed by Edmonton Oilers; who might replace him?
- What’s behind Dustin Brown’s scoring explosion? Jeff Carter
- NHL Playoff Beard Watch: Ilya Kovalchuk, Keith Yandle get an ‘A’ for effort
- ESPN’s Colin Cowherd vs. NHL writers; longest game record; Roenick, Modano beards (Puck Headlines)
Latest stories and headlines from NHL.com
- King, Quick lead Kings to brink of Cup final with 2-1 win over Coyotes in Game 3
- Milano takes over NHL's Twitter feed for Game 3
- Scrivens gets shutout as Marlies blank Barons 5-0 in Game 1 of AHL West final
- Kostka scores twice as Admirals rout IceCaps 6-1 in Eastern Conference opener
- Renney will not return as coach of Oilers
