Free Agency Day 2008 - Open Thread
by FrankD on Jun 30, 2008 11:24 PM EDT
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PrintUse this post to discuss anything in relation to the free agency deadline (today) , regardless of team affiliation. If you feel it's big enough Penguins news, then toss it up as a fan post and I can almost guarantee a promotion to the main page. I want to do my best to keep track of all the where-to around the league, so if you hear of a signing drop it here. I'm normally not too hot on spreading rumors, but hell - it's a day of rumors and alleged moves so as long as you quote the source all is well.
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I heard the pens are re-signing malkin to a 5yr 42.5 mil and orpik at 3.6 mill over 5yrs that sounds very reasonable to me. Also just rumors but rolston to pitt a good possibility.
Malkin and Sid locked up for the next six seasons would be sick – but will it happen?
3.6 a year for 5 years I suspect? I can’t imagine Orpik having 3.6 broken up over a five year span. haha.
Rolston’s rights were picked up by the Lightning, but I’d like to see if the Pens could grab him. He’s pretty solid and would more or less replace Malone for less coin.
FrankD from Pensburgh.com
I got the info on malkin and orpik on the site www.theinsideronpittsburghsports.com
and the rolston i heard on hockeybuzz but again like you said these are all rumors but lets hope there right, and I guess the pens upt there offer to oprik at 5yrs 18 mill and there trying to give hossa more yrs on his contract.
meh, hockeybuzz. Any hockey blogger can just as easily have Eklund’s “sources.”
I don’t take anything he says to heart.
FrankD from Pensburgh.com
I wouldn’t consider myself a hockey blogger (more like a contributor) but I do have an inner monologue that can give me information if I so choose.
Basically making stuff up, if you want to dumb it down.
Bring hockey back to Louisville!
Funny – I just got a text message from one of my sources>
“Chk Nrs sign w/TB”
and yet another:
“Lemx play in 08”
FrankD from Pensburgh.com
Malkin
Rumor near completion
5-year deal, $8.7 mil a season
http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=242152&lid=headline&lpos=topStory_main
FrankD from Pensburgh.com
red wings keeping Brad Stuart
Glad to hear that, he was very solid in the playoffs, after the end of the regular season where he got hurt and had us wings fans wondering if he was worth the 2nd round draft pick we gave the kings….
Detroit also extended Andreas Lilja the other day….mixed feelings there, just never know if you can trust the guy on the ice….
Well congrats. Stuart will forever be remembered in Pensburgh lore for that softy goal past Fleury. :-)
FrankD from Pensburgh.com
Pens just offered Rolston 2yr 9 mil. I bet the chances of us signing him are great due to all the rumors i hear him wanting to come to pittsburgh to play and that aint bad money for a guy who is 35 imo
Apparently
He wants an area that features good youth hockey for his son. Pittsburgh/Detroit would have to be better in that regard than Tampa.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 1, 2008 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
The pens just resigned Mark Eaton lol no I dont write fro the site I just go there and check it out alot.
Just read it
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/feature/?id=11353
I don’t know. As injury prone as Eaton may be, $1mil/year for two years is a good investment. As long as he stays healthy it’ll pay off
FrankD from Pensburgh.com
weird how some players just slip through your radar unnoticed….I had to look Eaton up, because my first thought was about the old Utah Jazz center (he was like 7’5” or something monstrous) that used to torture Kareem Abdul Jabbar…..
actually, I just looked him on wikipedia, and it’s kinda funny, dude worked an a auto mechanic for a few years before going to college….I’d be like, yes sir, mr. 7’4” giant mechanic guy, whatever you say is wrong with the car, I’ll pay to fix it….
blank”>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Eaton%28basketball%29
woah…that’s cool….i hadn’t realised you could just post the URLs and they’d automatically be turned into links….nice feature….
yeah you don’t have to worry about html ANYTHING.
That is kind of funny though. I’m currently reading Boys of Summer about the old Brooklyn Dodgers. Those guys retired from baseball and then took those kinds of jobs. One guy even delivered sacks of potatoes during the offseason to stay in shape.
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Pens make an offer to Jagr
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/2008/07/01/penguins_jagr/
FrankD from Pensburgh.com
Pittsburgh also just gave offers to Naslund and Rolston for 2yr deals the amount is still undisclosed.
At least with Jagr I can dust off my old jersey :-)
I’d rather Rolston if I had to pick.
FrankD from Pensburgh.com
Haha ya but having both of them or even just Rolston and Naslund playing on Crosbys line, then moving Dupuis to play with Malkin and Sykora wow thats 2 sick lines.
Ideal would be
Rolston – Crosby – Jagr
Naslund – Malkin – Sykora
Dupuis-Staal-Talbot
It’s funny, that entire fourth line is in question right now.
FrankD from Pensburgh.com
No will bring back ruutu and laraque and sign tucker and that can be the punishing line we’ll just send them out there to clean up.
Haha Ruutu and Tucker on the same line…
Here’s what would happen:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=uRiLdkOI-KA
Then Laraque would just stand there shaking his head in disbelief
FrankD from Pensburgh.com
Kinda sucks for him too though, as he’ll be the backup to Osgood. Unless they plan to usher him in as a starter in 09
FrankD from Pensburgh.com
I was thinking the same thing. At least he won’t feel like he’s having what he’s earned taken from him. Did that make sense?
Bring hockey back to Louisville!
Well he never really ‘earned’ anything. Sure, he proved it, but if he earned it Conk would’ve been in net over Fleury for the playoff run.
FrankD from Pensburgh.com
Anything buzzing about Sabourin? he’s a UFA too, right? We do need a backup goalie.
Also, I like the sound of Rolston, so I’m interested in what’s going to happen there. I’d like to see Ruutu back as well, looks like Laraque may be gone.
Happy Canada Day all, as well. (If only Trade Deadline could be a national holiday too…)
yeah Sabu isn’t going anywhere. He’s locked up till next year. I don’t think the goaltending will adjust one bit, with the exception of Conklin to Detroit. Therrien is close with Sabu, having coached him in the minors/juniors once before.
FrankD from Pensburgh.com
Wings don't believe in Jimmy Howard
He was supposed to be the guy a couple years ago, but then they brought back hasek, and then they brought back Osgood. I’m not surprised that the Wings moved on a new goalie, I’m a little surprised it was Conklin. It’s a good position for him to be in, though, as Osgood is 35 with plenty of mileage. He’ll get playing time this year, and have a shot at being the man in Hockeytown the next season…
Whos Eric Godard? Im not real fimiliar with him, is he like a guy like laraque or a guy like ruutu who just likes to stir up the pot?
Godard
is a scrapper. I don’t know all that much about him but know that he’s not an offensive-minded forward. He’s kind of like Carcillo in Phoenix, or even an Avery.
FrankD from Pensburgh.com
perhaps – I didn’t watch much of him last season (as you can imagine), but he racked up 171 penalty minutes over 74 games, 2 points (1G, 1A) and took only 14 shots on the season. A Laraque perhaps, but more like the role of Riley Cote in Philly. No scoring, no shooting – strict enforcer.
FrankD from Pensburgh.com
Kind of odd to see – the strict enforcer role seems to be on the way out in the NHL right now. 14 shots on the season… definitely no offensive minded play, you weren’t exaggerating before.
It does seem kind of old school. But if the Pens are considering the option of NOT re-signing Ruutu and Laraque, Godard may be able to fill both their shoes in a limited role. Remember how Laraque was a healthy scratch for some games? Same with Ruutu in 2006. I’d expect Godard to sit out a few – for use strictly in physical games (ie. Philly). I can’t wait to see what they gave him.
FrankD from Pensburgh.com
I’m hoping they make a push to resign Ruutu, I like him. I haven’t seen anything that’s suggested they’ve even made an effort to keep Laraque, so he may well be on his way out (though on the list of UFAs to sign, he’s obviously not the priority).
If Godard could be had for less than Laraque, it seems like a good move. Laraque didn’t play a lot of minutes, and like you said was a healthy scratch, so if Godard can fill the role for less then it’s a good deal.
I think they still have an offer out there for Hossa, hence why it’s been a relatively quiet Monday. Last I heard the Pens offered Hoss $52 Mil over 7 years.
Then I also heard of a two-year deal with Jagr for $10 Mil and an option out. That’s been Jagr’s biggest thing – he wants to play but wants to play on his terms. I think if anyone, Lemieux knows how to work it and would gladly give him the option. Jagr still owns a place in Pitt, rents an apartment to Sykora and would probably be welcomed back with open arms – if not for the fact he saves fans $130 and up on jerseys, in its place the mere charge of 50 cents to dry clean the old ones.
FrankD from Pensburgh.com
The Hossa decision is taking a long time, and it leaves Pitt. in limbo a bit, as to how much money they can spend elsewhere, like signing Orpik or making a deal with Rolston/Naslund/Jagr or whoever else they were talking to. Kind of the same situation with Sundin and Vancouver/Detroit/Montreal/Toronto.
The Insider on Pitt. Sports blog, mentioned somewhere way up there ^, is saying that Hossa won’t decide until tomorrow. I wish he’d just get it over with already though, so we can have some more interesting signings going on.
I kind of like the Jagr deal, though I’m not 100% sure about it. A two year contract with the option out seems like a good fit for him, because he wasn’t sure he wanted to stay for this season, even. 71 points last season on the wing, sounds like a good first line to me, especially if Hossa goes.
Jagr led the Rangers in scoring and hardly received help from anyone else. Give him the year, let him taste the Finals again and if the Pens don’t win you know he’ll be back again for that second year. I wonder if the crowd/fan base is playing a factor in his decision – as in he screwed them over last time and they may not be as receptive. But you and I both know that Lemieux would do a ridiculous over-the-top intro for him in October (and for the first time since 199_, let’s give it up for Jaromirrrrrrrr Jaaaaaaggrrrrrrrr.”
I think the crowd would get over it fast.
Sometimes when I have a meeting scheduled 24 hrs from when I get home, I can hardly sleep at night thinking about my game plan. Kudos to Hossa if he can actually sleep tonight – but I’m sure all of his dreams will involve dollar signs regardless.
FrankD from Pensburgh.com
Fans are fickle, they’d get over it quick. Especially if Lemieux, the crowd favourite, is welcoming him back. It’s like, for example, if the Pens signed Avery, who I have said about zero good things about – ever, I’d probably be singing his praises next season… it’s just the way it works. Jagr could be a big sign for the Pens, Rolston could be off the market soon, so they’re in the market for a winger.
I don’t know if Hossa will wait until tomorrow, but saying that takes some of the pressure off to sign tonight. With so many deals on the table I’d just put them in a hat and draw… then again I’m notoriously bad at making decisions.
I don’t know. To be honest with ya, I’ll still hate Avery if he winds up on the Pens. He has an attitude that just says “pay attention to me.” He doesn’t want to be on a team that markets actual talent – he just wants to have the market as a tough guy. From LA to New York, he’s not going to settle for Pittsburgh. He wants a Montreal, Dallas, Chicago, Buffalo sort of market.
FrankD from Pensburgh.com
I know what you mean, maybe Avery wasn’t the best example, he’s pretty easy to hate, still the example stands.
James Duthie of TSN just had two interesting points about Hossa. His agent is from Edmonton (with ties there, obviously), and may be the driving force behind that offer, trying to get other teams to raise their offers. Edmonton has had a rough few years, a lot of players don’t want to go there, or want to leave (ala Pronger) so getting Hossa could be important for them. Also, he said the list for Hossa is standing at
1. Edmonton
2. NYR
3. Montreal
4. Pittsburgh.
I would cancel the Rangers out and replace them with Boston. I don’t think the Rangers can afford him, even if they don’t re-sign Jagr, Shanahan and Avery. They just re-signed Rozsival actually.
FrankD from Pensburgh.com
With the Rozsival deal they would be really tight to the cap signing Hossa (unless they’re planning to dump some salary somewhere). TSN was pretty definite that those are the 4 offers though, Boston wasn’t mentioned at all. Still, it seems like it might come to Pitt, Edmonton or Montreal.
Plus, NYR is supposedly still in on the Sundin negotiations. They definitely can’t do both. It also limits their ability to sign Jagr.
Boston in on the Hossa deal now?? Interesting. They were quiet on that all day.
Also, crazy deal for Redden. 6 years at 6.5 – I think they overpaid.
Thaaaat’s our Rangers.
They also picked up Valiquette. Seems like they are just stocking up on role players without any star to build around.
FrankD from Pensburgh.com
That is the suckiest UFA news that ever sucked. Agreed. Can’t we all just agree to hate the wheel?
MHH: Shagging Dater one contributor at a time.
by Bob in Boulder on Jul 2, 2008 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions
ya whatever good for him I hope to god we play them in the finals next year and beat the $hit out of them. Lol I’ll take Naslund and Demitra and maybe Jagr over him anyday anyways.
just a ridiculous deal. Detroit loses nothing and gains everything with him. Now the best defensive team in the Finals is going to have a huge boost to their offense.
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