Penguins trade Dany Sabourin, Ryan Stone to Edmonton for Mathieu Garon
Looks like Marc-Andre Fleury will have another goalie backing him up for the rest of the season. The Penguins acquired Mathieu Garon from the Oilers today in exchange for Dany Sabourin, minor leaguer Ryan Stone and a fourth round draft pick, according to the Edmonton Oilers' site. (Pens post came later)
Can't say it's a huge upgrade. I for one was a bit discouraged by Sabourin's play while Fleury was out. I was saying all along that a .500 record would be ideal while Fleury rehabbed but deep down I wanted more.
Sabourin and Therrien were pretty tight. In fact Sabu was a product of the Penguins' system before the Canucks picked him up off of waivers in 2006. Obviously Therrien was confident enough to bring him back in 2007 as Fleury's backup, but I think l last year's Ty Conklin show really put a damper on things.
Which leads me to wonder - why didn't the Pens lock up Conklin and dish Sabourin back in July? I know there were some contracts and such to work out, but it seems like a squandered opportunity to me. Especially when you consider how well Conklin is playing this season:
Hurts to think Conklin could've held his own better than Sabourin while Fleury was out.
In either case, Sabu is back off to Alberta and I can't say it's all that heartbreaking. I'm just wondering if the Penguins offered too much for Garon...
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honestly, the way Conklin is playing in Detroit, I’m almost starting to wonder if he won’t end up doing to Osgood what Osgood did to Hasek last year, supplanting the starter for the playoff run…
not that that thought helps your blood pressure any…
haha well I think that was kinda what Detroit brought him there for. What are you paying him this year? Something like $800K? Bargain shopping at its best and a chance to lock him up for next season. The guy is a certifiable starter. If he didn’t prove it last season then he’s doing it this year. Nothing but respect for that guy.
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Something like that – I think $750,000. And Osgood isn’t real expensive, either – maybe $1.5 million, $1.2 million, or thereabouts. Too tired from shoveling snow to check right now.
It’s funny because Ken Holland was a goaltender himself, but believes in spending money on defensemen and less on the goaltenders – as long as a goalie is competent, a solid defense will take care of the rest, and few goaltenders are capable of spectacular on a consistent basis. Maybe he figures that if HE could play goal, how hard could it possibly be? :)
"A vacuum is a hell of a lot better than some of the stuff that nature replaces it with." -- Tennessee Williams
Wow, that came out of nowhere, and is a very boring trade. Why would Pitt trade back-up with .898 this year for a back-up with .895, plus another player and draft pick. Doesn’t make sense to me unless it was a monetary juggle to free up space for forward?
Not to mention Garon carries a $1.1 million price tag on him compared to Sabourin’s $512,000. AND Garon is a free agent at the end of this season. So it’s not even like they can keep him around next year.
I know the Pens are really working with some goaltending talent in the system John Curry got a few nods this season and didn’t look half bad. I wouldn’t be surprised if they consider upping him to the club next season to free up some space.
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Garon played very well last year for Edmonton. Many of the Oilers fans have spent the season wondering what on earth he did to get on the bad side of the coaching staff, because he seemed to be a permanent residence of their doghouse. Some of them think it was because he criticized the Edmonton goalie coach and brought in his own, and once you go against the old boys’ club you’re finished.
To be fair, he has had no chance this year to actually get on a roll and play a few games in a row – or even close together. Get to start infrequently, and come in cold when the starter is being shelled, and your stats are likely going to be putrid. I think he’ll show he’s better than his numbers thus far if he gets an honest chance.
"A vacuum is a hell of a lot better than some of the stuff that nature replaces it with." -- Tennessee Williams
Yeah I remember going through conniptions with him last season when he was on my fantasy team. It looked like he would get the starting role and then they’d revert to Rollie. Given Fleury’s sensitivity as of the past two seasons it probably doesn’t hurt to at least have a former starter en que.
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A move just to makea move?
Doesn’t really seem like an upgrade… oh well, I don’t really think we gave up much and didn’t get much so who cares.
I would have been more happy to see a “Penguins trade Boucher for .”
Probably the best way of labeling this – move for a move. They definitely didn’t upgrade and the draft pick they included isn’t until 2011 anyway, so that doesn’t have much an impact. Stone isn’t going to come along well as a center on this team. Consider how that position is locked up right now – Malkin, Crosby, Talbot, Staal. No room anytime soon for a guy on the farm unless there’s an injury. Even then he wouldn’t be the first choice with journeymen like Taffe around.
And man – you really hate Boucher, huh? ;-)
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Not really
I just think we’re D-stacked(when healthy) and think he could bring the most value and wouldn’t really hurt the team by losing him. I’d rather trade Boucher, than trade Whitney, Gonchar, Eaton, Orpik, Letang, Goligoski, or Gill
It makes sense. He and Eaton are probably the most fragile in terms of injuries anyways. Given our current situation it probably wouldn’t hurt to get rid of guys like that. Then again, everyone is getting hurt lately.
A few people have commented on here about getting rid of Boucher, hence why I asked. I may have confused your comment with someone else, but either way the idea is out there it seems…
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Wouldnt a move for a defenseman or Winger have made more sense?
But I guess you can never have too many French Canadien goalies
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
perhaps, but who could they have really picked up for Sabu? That’s why I was thinking the Pens would’ve led a trade with perhaps Whitney and package a draft pick and Sabu into the mix. All in all I think this is just a surprise move that really won’t have much impact for either team.
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I dont know that id let whitney go
I just hope they dont overreact to this whole situation, they’ve had a lot of significant injuries and lost a lot of talent from last year….so i hope cooler heads prevail.
I think Staal would probably bring themost back in return, but I wouldnt trade him for anything short of Phaneuf
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.
Whitney seems to be the popular name going around the whole trade rumor mill, but then again Staal was too up until two weeks ago. I think it’s pretty safe to say the Pens are hurting right now but the last thing they need is some sort of desperation move.
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Phaneuf has his head in the clouds this year, Reaghr(sp?) is having a way better season and Phaneuf is disappointing, you sure you would want him?
Our residential Calgary expert ;-)
Not by choice of course…
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What are you doing up, it is late ; ) Remember New Years Eve, went to Calgary vs. Edmonton at dome, during first intermission I was outside & after putting some Flames fans in their place, due to my boy wearing Oilers jersey, I had a conversation with a dude who was trying to be knight on white horse or whatever and help me with my situation, anyhow he asked me who my team was, of course Pens… He said that he would be embarassed if Sidney Crosby was his friend, I said that I would be embarassed if Dion Phaneuf was my friend… he pulled down his overcoat to show me his Phaneuf jersey, started walking away, and turned while walking to call me a b***ch, nuff said, Flames fans are equally disappointed by his results as the club is.
Up so late? I hardly sleep to begin with.
Wow, that guy sounds like a complete idiot. Kudos for not knocking his lights out.
Phaneuf is a good defenseman but he doesn’t look like the sort of person many people would want to be friends with. I mean he looks like cromagnon man to the extreme.
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haha, thats it!
Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

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