The Sidney Crosby and Brett McLean 'fight' blown out of proportion
Everyone is having a field day with this, so I figured it's only right to say my part as well. As always, I'd love to hear what you guys have to say about it.
In this video you'll notice an altercation between Florida's Brett McLean and Pittsburgh's Sidney Crosby. Note: Florida's Nick Boynton is not involved in the debacle. Why is this important you ask? Because apparently people feel it's valid to quote someone who wasn't involved with the incident as the best source regarding the fight:
"That was just embarrassing. I can understand a little bit what he was trying to do, but that’s a not a very professional move. You ask a guy to fight. You don’t jump a guy when his head is down taking a faceoff. That’s pretty immature and childish. He’s just, whatever. He’s not happy with the way things are going and he was trying to get his team going. But there’s no need for that.’’
Nick Boynton
Florida Panthers defenseman
Miami Herald
Last I checked he wasn't within ear shot of the faceoff circle. If he was, maybe he would've heard Sid challenge McLean:
"I asked him to go, and he said yes. And usually, yes means yes. I mean, I wouldn't have wasted 20 minutes in the box for that. I guess he didn't take me serious. I don't know, it wasn't worth 20 minutes, though, that's for sure."
Sidney Crosby
From post-game interview and recap
Or perhaps that didn't happen. Maybe Sid did actually jump McLean. Maybe Sid, for the first time in his career, goon'd out and let his frustrations dictate his actions. No one's perfect.
All those people who prior to this incident that were frustrated with Crosby's role as the face of the NHL will embrace it, for now at least, in efforts to use it against him. That's why you'll read comments on how much he's "embarassing" himself on James Mirtle's From the Rink or how "poor" McLean was a victim on LitterBox Cats.
"Everybody can kind of understand what he's doing for their team there. He's their leader."
Brett McLean
Florida Panthers 'victim'
Doesn't sound like the tone of a victim to me. But if you ask anyone else his comments are "classy" and "admirable" for a guy who just got dumped. If you watch the video he even skates away with a smile on his face, probably thinking, "I didn't think he would." Of course the same people quoting Boynton would say he's really saying something else.
McLean later added, from the Miami Herald blog On Frozen Pond:
''He said something before the drop but I really didn't pick up on it. So, I kind of wish I had now. Like I said, everyone can understand what he was trying to do for his team. He's their leader, their captain.''
Florida Coach Pete DeBoer didn't negate Crosby's action either. Once again a quote Crosby bashers would say is "classy" of DeBoer:
''I've coached Sidney and know what kind of competitor he is. If I'm coaching Pittsburgh, I like to see that kind of fire out of one of your best players when things aren't going that well. It is what it is. I was glad to see him off the ice for 19 minutes. That made our lives a little easier.''
Pete DeBoer
Miami Herald
It's true. Keeping Sid off the ice helped the Panthers and definitely hurt the Penguins. But the score was already 4-1 at that point. As much as we'd like to think the Pens would make a run for a comeback chances were slim to none at that point.
Trust me, I'm not ruling out the possibility that Crosby did something dirty on the ice and will more than likely get away with it. I'm a hockey fan, first and foremost, when it comes to looking at issues like this. I don't go into auto-defense mode if it's a Penguins player, despite running a Penguin-centric site. If McLean did accept the challenge than Sid should've given him a chance to drop the mitts and square off. But maybe McLean, as Sid said, didn't take him seriously. Now Crosby is committed to a fight with a guy who thought he was joking. Backing off at this point would look like backing down.
After all, you don't hear people talking about how McLean turtled against Crosby. You won't read that anywhere. Outside of this incident, there are still a collective group of people scratching their head saying, "Who is Brett McLean?"
Here are just a few things I'd like to put on the record, just so you know it's all out there.
During the game thread I openly admitted it looked like Sid jumped McLean. But I wasn't on the ice to hear those comments. So at the least I'll agree Sid got him on his back foot.
In the game recap I said:
I can't say I disagree with it. The crowd went crazy, the players were standing up and cheering and frankly it provided some entertainment. I consider it a sacrifice, an attempt to turn the tides of the game even if it resulted in a game misconduct. Perhaps that's the price to pay as a captain. With the way Sid has been playing these past few games you'd almost think he was in the box anyways.
I still stand by that. Similar to McLean I understand where Crosby is coming from. I don't disagree with it. The method, perhaps, but not the motive.
Black and gold glasses aside I can honestly say this is an incident blown out of proportion. Look at how everyone is quoting Boynton as the reliable source on the altercation. He wasn't there, he doesn't know. You know who does? Sid and McLean. Sid said he challenged him and he didn't take him seriously. McLean said he understood what Sid was doing.
Maybe this fight will have bigger implications than expected. Sid took this week's attention off the team, off the power play and off the four-straight losses. Maybe now the rest of the guys can pull it together with no distractions. Sounds like a captain doing his job - intended or not.
So where is the controversy coming from? People who want it to be there.
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I'm leaning towards giving Sid a pass
This quote for me pretty much wraps it up.
“He said something before the draw,” McLean said, “but I didn’t really pick up on it.”
Go 'Stros!
That would make his assertion that the two talked and agreed to fight seem not true… Obviously someone is full of crap because they’re saying two opposite things
Did you discuss fighting him?
“We had not, at any point. It was as surprising to me as it was to you guys.”
Did you ever see it coming?
“No I didn’t.”
Was Sidney jawing at you earlier in the game?
“Before the face-off, like I told you yesterday, he was saying something but I didn’t really hear it. I didn’t know what he was saying, didn’t really pay attention to it.”
Did you ever say yes to him as he said?
“No, I mean, I don’t know where that came from.”
It’s he said she said. I can’t say who is the he and who is the she…
Controversy, he cannot do anything or nothing without people beaking about it. I guess it comes with the territory. I do want to point out to all of the people saying that ‘he is hurting the team more than helping this season by spending all of his time in the box’, what? Going into this game even Malkin had more penalty minutes than him.
People have no common sense
I go to other hockey related sites and read people complain all the damn time that Sid is a whiner… Now… I probably watch as many pens games as anyone, and you hardly ever see him whining any other Captain. Players talk to Ref’s… that doesn’t make it whining.
I’ve just come to grips with the fact that people don’t like him and a lot of it probably has to do with the way the NHL goes a little over the top with advertising him… but you can’t blame Sid for that… Hell.. maybe some more fights like this and the media will leave him alone and let him play hockey… I’ve read articles(I think it was Don Cherry) that said that the reason Sid isn’t performing up to expectations is because of all of the non-hockey related crap he has to deal with(as in interviews etc). He said that is he was coaching Sid, he’d cut him off from a majority of it.. I think I tend to agree with that.
2nd sentence, "and you hardly ever see him whining to refs..... at least not more than any other captain"
I typed without proof reading :)
All those people who prior to this incident that were frustrated with Crosby’s role as the face of the NHL will embrace it, for now at least, in efforts to use it against him. That’s why you’ll read comments on how much he’s “embarassing” himself on James Mirtle’s From the Rink or how “poor” McLean was a victim on LitterBox Cats.
What complete and utter garbage. I’ve never trashed Crosby ever and have absolutely no bias against him.
Give your head a shake.
Just to clarify, “you’ll read comments” meant exactly that – you’ll read comments. I recall you have a good share of them in your comments section.
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Biggest non-story of 2009 (so far of course) Crosby was heated about the team’s performance and wanted to fire up his players. Nothing more. Sure he could have had a more traditional fight, but it is what it is. There’s not much more to be said about it, time to move on and wait for Semin v. Crosby, the ultimate slap-box.
I’m in awe watching this thing or non-thing explode everywhere on the net. Now the true test, I shall open today’s Calgary Herald, if there is an article on it in there I am moving to the moon.
I dunno. Most papers run with AP stuff, so it’s likely you won’t get an editorial on it. But even the AP story made mention of Sid, albeit a neutral take of it.
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AP for game recaps that is, especially games out of the region.
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Headline edit..........
Please re-edit headline to properly read : “Sidney Crosby blown out of proportion.”
Thanks. Caps fan that lived in PG for 8 years (but no longer).
by Pi on Jan 4, 2009 7:57 PM EST up reply actions
Must’ve been torture for you. Was this during the Hatcher, Bondra, Gartner days?
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More recent……Bondra, Kolzig, Zednik, Bulis, Gonchar, Juneau, Oates, etc. Pens did us in the Playoff one year, before we slowly disappeared into Bolivian (as Mike Tyson would say…) and began the Kwiatkowski, Majesky, Ciernik, Sutherby, Pettinger era……
by Pi on Jan 4, 2009 10:20 PM EST up reply actions
For the record...
…I was being sarcastic with the “poor” McLean line on The Litter Box.
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That’s fine – people are very touchy with references it seems. Like I said to Mirtle, it was your comments I was highlighting, like the one from Marky Narc who specifically references the whole face of the league thing.
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It's hard to ignore
that the NHL has indeed pushed Sid as the “face of the league”. Being in Pittsburgh, it’s probably not as noticeable. But just about anywhere else, Crosby is seen as personally installed by Bettman. Whether true or not, whether fair or not, Sid IS the NHL, and a lot of folks have a problem with that. Witness the Ovechkin snub, or heck, the Richards snub, for the ASG. Not Crosby’s fault by any stretch, and I blame the Robo-voting Habs fans for a lot of that mess (and the league for allowing it), but the guy is always going to be smack in the middle of controversy thanks to the pedestal he was placed upon…which he didn’t ask for.
He’s frustrated and – sorry, NHL – he doesn’t yet posess the gravitas of Gretzky at the same age.
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by Donny Rivette on Jan 5, 2009 7:10 PM EST up reply actions

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