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Getting to know the Flyers - Five questions with Broad Street Hockey

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We hate them.  They hate us.  Yet oddly enough one of the better exchanges of open threads during the playoffs came from the first round against the Flyers with the guys and gals over at Broad Street Hockey.  They'd agree too I'm sure, but then again they also only have one round of playoff hockey to consider.

In effort to better edumakate ourselves and the respective fan bases, Ben from Broad Street Hockey and I exchanged a few questions leading into the new season.  The first game against Philly is exactly one week away on October 8,  so now seemed like a pretty good time to check in and see what's going on around that team and hear/read what the fans are thinking.  When you're done reading, shoot on over to BSH and see what Q's Ben sent my way.

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1.  Lets get right to it.  Ray Emery and Chris Pronger - the answer?

They're certainly an answer.  Emery is a goalie with a great playoff track record, which is what the Flyers needed.  Pronger is obviously a beast--a shutdown d-man, which is something every team can use more of.  His vocal veteran leadership will be a huge help to this team, as will his offensive presence.  For how scoring the offense was, the Flyers D had been seriously offensively-challenged.  The double-digit goals Pronger should bring to the table will certainly be appreciated.

2. Last season Philly posted six different 25-or-more goal scorers - Jeff Carter (46), Simon Gagne (34), Mike Richards and Scott Hartnell (30), Mike Knuble (27) and Joffrey Lupul (25) - no doubt an impressive showing.  With Knuble and Lupul going elsewhere in the offseason, do you think Philly has two guys who can step it up and replace them or will this be an area where the Flyers might struggle?

Philly absolutely has two guys who can replace Lupul and Knuble in Daniel Briere and Claude Giroux, two guys who both saw limited ice last year.  I'm pretty sure Briere and Giroux will combine for more than Knuble and Lupul's 52.  Mika Pyorala has also been incredible in the preseason, so he might well break 20 as well.  This is a case of the rich staying rich.

3. In your honest opinion, are the Flyers a better team on paper this season than last?

I'd say yes, but not by a whole lot. Losing Mike Knuble sucked, because he was a gritty veteran guy who got a lot of huge garbage goals.  Losing him to Washington sucks even more, because he's exactly what they needed offensively down there.  But Pronger, a healthy Briere, and a clear starter in Emery make this a better team this year than last.  And they were pretty damn good last year.

4. Why is it that whenever the Flyers make a move (Pronger specifically here) it's seen as a deterrent to Pittsburgh?  It's not like you guys play the Pens 82 games a year.

Every team uses some other team as a measuring stick. Some use the Stanley Cup Champ, some use their biggest rival, and some use the team who knocked them out of the playoffs the year before. The Penguins are all three of those for the Flyers, so it's no wonder that's who the Flyers are always compared to.  Makes a lot more sense than saying "those Islanders better watch out for Pronger."

5. I guess on that similar note, for two-straight seasons Pittsburgh bounced Philly from the playoffs (as if you needed a reminder).  Some would argue Pronger was brought in as a guy who can prevent that from happening again.  Discuss.

Pronger will make the Flyers better against everybody, which includes the Penguins, for sure.  The Flyers were a blown three-goal lead from forcing a Game 7 against Pittsburgh last year, so I don't necessarily think they needed a big move to be able to beat them this year.  Pronger should be effective in shutting down Crosby and Malkin, sure, but also Ovechkin, Gaborik, Tavares, Kovalchuk, and whoever else gets in his way.  76 of the Flyers games this year will be against teams that aren't Pittsburgh, so I don't think that move (or any move) was made with one opponent in mind.

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Good question and answer, Frank. Thanks.

My best friend is Flyers fan who grew up in center city Philly, so I agree that some Flyers fans are passionate about their team and are typically willing to engage in honest and open discussions about their team.

I like the rich getting richer comment in #2, even if I don’t necessarily agree (briere is secretly a girl), but we all know that winning the Stanley Cup is not about scoring goals. Until Emery proves he is the answer for Philly in goal, this Flyers team will have a big question mark on it.

BTW, I took the link to Broad Street Hockey, and it doesn’t suprise me that his version of this post is not up yet. Just another case of the Pens getting off before the Flyers, and why we, as fans, are superior in every way.

Also, for those in the Burgh not in the know, the game will be on the jumbtron outside the arena on Friday to celebrate the banner raising!! GO PENS!!!!

by Ulf Murphy on Oct 1, 2009 8:52 AM EDT reply actions  

It was bumped to 9:00 am to allow for our morning links to go up at 6 am. But:

Just another case of the Pens getting off before the Flyers, and why we, as fans, are superior in every way.

Made me laugh. I didn’t know the ladies preferred that in Pittsburgh. HIIIOOOOOO

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by Geoff Detweiler on Oct 1, 2009 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Last I checked all ladies liked getting off first all the time....

Sorry you looked at from your perspective. If you weren’t so selfish, she would be more appreciative. :)

by Ulf Murphy on Oct 1, 2009 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

the game will be on the jumbtron Mario’s TV. outside the arena

fixed.

by PensFan024 on Oct 1, 2009 9:20 AM EDT reply actions  

hah everyone pile into the wine cellar. It’s gonna be a par-tay

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by FrankD on Oct 1, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Philly will be interesting, I think staying out of the penalty box will be key. They have some guys who rack up the PIMs, if they’re constantly short-handed it’s only going to hurt the goaltending.

I have a pair of Ian Laperriere’s gloves that I use….Something tells me I’m not going to like them (or him) as much by mid-season.

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by Hooks Orpik on Oct 1, 2009 10:04 AM EDT reply actions  

Not sold on Emeryboard

I hate to admit that the addition of Chris Pronghorn was a good one for philly. Danny Briere can only be better, can’t be much more useless can he? Knuble was a loss, Hatcher not so much, The big ? is Emeryboard. I’ve seen plenty of the guy and saw a good Goalie in the Senators 2007 SC Final Run, I saw a complete flop the season before and a complete jerkoff the season after. Loose cannon, who may be appreciated in philly for creating some fist fights but I expect a locker room cancer and a flop at clutch goalie play

by Dutch71 on Oct 1, 2009 2:23 PM EDT reply actions  

umm i dont really get this line of thought, someone help me here
Pronger should be effective in shutting down Crosby and Malkin,

first, they play on two different lines. the only time both of these guys are on the ice togeather is on the pp or when we in deep shit. now on the pp, the shorthanded issues prevent a guy like pronger from really playing his physical game…

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by oldtimehockey09 on Oct 1, 2009 2:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Pronger isn’t taking line changes against the Penguins. He’s out there for 60 minutes or bust.

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by FrankD on Oct 1, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I meant shutting them down when he’s out on the ice with them. Clearly he’s not going to do much when he’s on the bench.

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by Ben Rothenberg on Oct 2, 2009 3:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

And with the depth Pronger provides, you’ve got Timonen and Coburn to deal with when he isn’t on the ice. Two shutdown pairings to counteract Pittsburgh’s two top lines.

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by Travis Hughes on Oct 2, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

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