Sidney Crosby cracks the Top 10 in all-time Penguins scoring

by Hooks Orpik on Oct 21, 2009 11:04 AM EDT in News Comment 14 comments

Crosby's starting to make his mark on the franchise.

With an assist last night, Sidney Crosby is now a part of the Pittsburgh Penguins' all-time top 10 for points scored with the organization. Crosby's current pace of 1.35 points/game is second in franchise history (behind, well, you guess).

Name	Games	Points
Mario Lemieux	915	1723
Jaromir Jagr	806	1079
Rick Kehoe	722	636
Ron Francis	533	613
Jean Pronovost	753	603
Kevin Stevens	522	555
Syl Apps	495	500
Martin Straka	560	442
Paul Coffey	331	440
Sidney Crosby	299	405

An impressive top ten to crack, the Penguins have seen no shortage of great offensive players over the years and Crosby is now a part of it, just nine games into his season as a 22 year old.

Evgeni Malkin, if you're wondering, is at 315 career points. So while he's flying up the list, it'll be a while still before he cracks the top ten, being as he'll have to get 441 points to knock off Paul Coffey.

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By the time he’s done… Sid will probably be #2 on the list. He’d have to really kick it into gear to pass Mario on that list (and spend his entire career in Pittsburgh…possible, but remember, Wayne Gretzky played for four different teams in his career…)

Let's go Caps!

by MikeL-Caps on Oct 21, 2009 2:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Valid point. But it’s no coincidence that the new arena has 18,087 seats in it. Crosby is the franchise and he’s basically family to the Lemieux’s. It’s hard to picture him not wanting to be in Pittsburgh.

And as a curiosity, Crosby would have to play 977 more games at his current point/game pace to tie Lemieux. That translate to 12 more seasons. If Sid stays healthy, he should have a chance at the Pens all-time record. Assuming the game remains relatively open for offensive hockey.

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by Hooks Orpik on Oct 21, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, we have to remember that Mario’s numbers where hampered by a bad back and cancer.

by PensFan024 on Oct 22, 2009 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wow

he is in elite company already

by CGNC on Oct 21, 2009 4:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Wow, and to think, he’ll probably be number 7 at the end of the season.

Is it just me or does anyone else think Sid should have more points this season than he does? In my opinion, he’s been the best Pen this year (maybe with the exception of MAF). He has games where he plays out of his mind, but ends up with no points or one point when he played well enough to score four. Like at Carolina, he had no points but the Trib said he created 10 scoring chances, and last night he was awesome but only had an assist. I guess the pucks will go in soon enough, but it’s just something I noticed.

by PensFan8725 on Oct 21, 2009 7:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Plea for a schedule change?

This is off topic but wouldn’t it be really cool if the NHL had scheduled (or could change the schedule) to have the Pens close out the Arena with Montreal? They were the first NHL team to open the Arena in October 1967 and it would be a great piece of future history to have them close it out.
Change the November 25th game with the Habs at Pittsburgh to April 2010. I know the Pens play the 8th as do the Habs(with others), but something could be worked out.
That would be a class move by the Pens, Habs and NHL and maybe even NBC.
Just a thought!

Are you listening Gary?

by John Carter on Oct 21, 2009 7:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Am I alone in thinking that people outside of the Pittsburgh fan base really won’t appreciate Sid’s career until he retires?

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by FrankD on Oct 22, 2009 1:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Seriously? That basically sounds like you’re fishing for a compliment. I think almost anyone with half a brain really appreciates the level of talent and superstars that are in the NHL right now.

He’s off to a fantastic beginning of his career and people that follow the NHL are reminded constantly about how amazing he and Ovechkin are.

I think a better question would be: Will anyone be able to appreciate his career, before he retires, without having the appreciation forced on them.

I still try to watch Pens games whenever they are on just to see what he and Malkin will do and tons of other people do as well. So that says something…

One guy just drove his semi as a float. I guess semis are cool.

by zephyr on Oct 22, 2009 3:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Why would I be fishing for a compliment? I was asking a genuine question. It seems like a lot of people are hung up on saying Malkin is better because he keeps it low key (ie. isn’t the “face’” of the league), although I’m sure once his English gets to a comfortable level he’ll be raking in some sponsorship dough as well.

And really your question isn’t much different than mine.

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by FrankD on Oct 22, 2009 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Saying Malkin is better really doesn’t coincide with not appreciating what Crosby does, at least, not for me. I think at times one is considerably better than the other which is pretty fun to watch.

Here is a timely article for what we’re talking about:

It is very important that you don’t take either of these two players for granted; watch them as much as possible over the next 3-5 seasons when they will be at the height of their powers. It is a very small window and it will be gone before you know it. They will likely have long and productive careers; but the exhilarating portion of it, where their athleticism takes your breath away, won’t last forever.

I think my question is pretty different. You are saying, “I wonder if people will appreciate him” and I’m saying that a lot of hockey fans already do but I wonder if anyone will get the chance to without having it shoved on them.

One guy just drove his semi as a float. I guess semis are cool.

by zephyr on Oct 22, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’m saying that a lot of hockey fans already do but I wonder if anyone will get the chance to without having it shoved on them.

I get that. Crosby’s marketed heavily, which isn’t a self-centered thing. He does his part to help the league and helps promote it, but it’s not like he stumps for the spotlight or demands attention like other stars of the past (like a Lindros).

A lot of the loud arguments about Crosby (by non-Penguin fans) are almost 100% negative: whines too much, isn’t the #1 player, etc, etc. It’s obvious and understandable that you don’t (and shouldn’t) be a fan of the guy, especially when he’s playing against your team, but I do think, based off the heat Crosby takes, it under-shadows his accomplishments….Which isn’t a huge deal for me, it’s the gamesmanship of the sport.

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by Hooks Orpik on Oct 22, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I do think, based off the heat Crosby takes, it under-shadows his accomplishments

You put into words what I couldn’t. That’s basically what I was trying to say but you did so more eloquently than I. Thank ya for that.

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by FrankD on Oct 22, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well said, hooks.

IMO, I really think he needs to stop the diving and it will help him gain a lot more respect from fans of other teams. He is one of the strongest guys on his feet in the game and when a stick brushes against him at center ice he goes flying. I remember watching the Phoenix game a few weeks ago the Pens announcers were even laughing a little bit at one of the dives.

One guy just drove his semi as a float. I guess semis are cool.

by zephyr on Oct 22, 2009 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Amazing how quickly he’s moved up the list. He could easily be #7 by the end of this year, and likely into the top 5 after the 10-11 season, and should move to third shortly into the season after that.

by Akshay R on Oct 22, 2009 10:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs