Pens score 1, but one's not enough; Devils win 3-1
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The Pens were buzzing early and would finally snap their goal-less streak in the first period. Sidney Crosby (riding a personal high five game score-less streak) threw it to the net and Ruslan Fedotenko crashed in. The puck wasn't frozen and Fedotenko found it before Martin Brodeur did or the Jersey defense found his stick to slam it home. 1-0 Pens.
Sometimes even when you do the right thing, it's the wrong thing. A couple instances where Penguins did well, but still New Jersey got the goals to give them a 2-1 edge after the second period.
--Chris Conner drove the the net, stirred up the puck from Brodeur who wanted to freeze it. Usually a good thing, right? Except when NJ gets it right back, establishes zone time and traps Conner on a long shift, which lead to Niklas Bergfors goal. Bergfors is starting to be one of those notorious Penguin killers, now with two goals in two games against Pittsburgh.
-Then killing a penalty, Ben Lovejoy (making his season debut in the NHL) was in perfect position, but somehow the point shot from Andy Greene struck his skate at such an angle to re-direct in past a helpless Fleury.
Then, sloppy play gave the Devils another goal. Conner got back out on the ice, but after getting hemmed in their own end for a while, the line was ready for a change. Conner got the puck in the neutral zone, but hestitated -- seemingly not sure if he should skate the red line and dump, find someone else to pass the puck to, go to the bench himself. Whatever he did, he froze. Bergfors picked his pocket, and Travis Zajac found Zach Parise on a nice pass (and better finish).
It would be Conner's final mistake, as it was his final shift in the game.
With a second left, David "Kelly" Clarkson tacked on an empty netter. Nice one.
- Crosby had games where he didn't look like a force. Tonight was not one of those nights, he was all over the offensive zone, getting 5 shots on goal (with a total of 12 attempts) and several great passes. He played well.
- Ruslan Fedotenko was good too, with six shots on goal, the only goal and what would have been a second goal if the nob of Brodeur's stick didn't somehow catch a piece of it.
- That Nicklas Bergfors is playing like Forsberg against Pittsburgh -- in two games he's got 2 goals and 3 assists. He's got seven points in 15 games against the rest of the league.
- Marc-Andre Fleury was only average to maybe a little above average on a night he needed to be great.
- Congrats to New Jersey, who extended their road mark to 9-0-0 and are now the #1 team in the Eastern Conference when you look at the standings tomorrow morning. One more road win and they tie the 2006-07 Buffalo team for best road start.
- It's been tough sledding lately for Conner and Chris Bourque, neither of whom are playing very well at the NHL level at the moment. Will Pittsburgh stick it out with them or will they think of swapping them out for farmhands who seem to be playing well in the AHL (Ryan Bayda, Dustin Jeffrey, Luca Caputi)? Hard to say, but you have to believe the possibility will at least be considered.
As frustrated as we all are, the Penguins are still the 3rd best team in the East. Considering what they've had to weather lately, that's not bad. With Evgeni Malkin's return on the horizon, there ought to be a shot in the arm coming soon. It's just about surviving until the reinforcements get back. Four straight losses have everyone on edge, but it's not for the lack of trying. It'll come around, just gotta keep at it
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Am happy that Crosby snapped the pointless streak tonight and Brodeur was denied the shutout. I’m about ready to swap out the Chrises, too. But maybe it’s best to let things settle down and players adjust, for now.
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Did anyone catch Kunitz’s very loud, very direct, very on-air F-bomb? Sums up the game pretty well.
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Haha, yep.
Someone said it could have been Guerin but Kunitz hesitated on a shot that got blocked away, I’m pretty sure it was in fact him.
How it was so loud going to broadcast (when other on-ice conversations aren’t captured) is beyond me.
Fitting, though.
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by Hooks Orpik on Nov 12, 2009 11:22 PM EST up reply actions
Your announcers are weird, too. Late in the game, Crosby is trying to create behind the net, nobody can seem to get open, and he starts getting excited, telling Crosby to try “the Michigan”, (though I think he describes it as ‘that lacrosse move’).. then again, FSN is so hit-or-miss. I really loved the Stars coverage when I had Center Ice, but the Buffalo and Boston people drove me insane. Insane.
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Yeah that would be Bob Errey. He gets excited like that all the time for everything.
Boston announcers are the worst. Unfortunately got a load of him on the Versus broadcast the other night and, feed permitting, will have to deal with him again on Saturday against the Bruins.
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Your announcers are weird, too. Late in the game, Crosby is trying to create behind the net, nobody can seem to get open, and he starts getting excited, telling Crosby to try "the Michigan", (though I think he describes it as ‘that lacrosse move’
He just takes a little to warm up to.
What he was saying (basically) without saying was that none of his wingers were doing a very good job and Sid should take more on himself to make something happen on his own. After a couple of seasons of watching it’s easy to read between the lines.
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by Hooks Orpik on Nov 12, 2009 11:32 PM EST up reply actions
the voice of the Buffalo MSG coverage is REALLY very teasing… one of very few who I could identify only hearing him for 2 secs…
You have to see it for yourself...
ah yes, his name escapes me at the moment but he’s considered a legend of sorts.
“He shoots he scoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooores”
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yeah, he sounds old… but has a very noticeable tremble of the voice… brrr
You have to see it for yourself...
Rick Jeannerete (spelling?) is his name.
Sometimes he annoys me but sometimes I like it when he gets all worked up.
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by Hooks Orpik on Nov 13, 2009 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
Think that’s it.
He can be annoying at times but I just think that’s the nature of the business. When you’re in an industry where your voice is personified as the only representation of your work it’s bound to get criticized.
I’ll always laugh thinking about Pat La-la-la-la-la-la-fontaiiiiiiine.
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It was beautiful. Certainly no more than what the rest of us were saying.
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by GreenEyedLilo on Nov 12, 2009 11:30 PM EST up reply actions
I would have liked Chris to finish that open-net goal, but otherwise, I was content with the game.
Then again, Caps fan, so.
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I believe that was before there was any score…Could have changed the whole complexion of the game.
I don’t see Bourque a Pittsburgh Penguin for very longer if he doesn’t pick it up a little. He hasn’t been bad bad, but he hasn’t been making plays.
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by Hooks Orpik on Nov 12, 2009 11:33 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, his 8 game stint in Washington was relatively quiet, too, though he did put one goal in. I guess I just have to hope that Washington figures out this cap situation before something like that happens, since he would have to pass waivers… it’s nice to dream. =)
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Nylander will be gone by then, he’s just very calculated.
In the coming weeks Pittsburgh will have 3 forwards back from injury (Malkin, Talbot, Kennedy). Hopefully no one else gets hurt.
I don’t see Bourque in the lineup if the three of them are back. The Pens might scratch CBo, as to not lose him on waivers and give him more time to develop, but they just as well might have seen enough. Pittsburgh is tight to the cap too, they might not want to carry a 14th forward (Godard’s going no where as a 12/13 guy)
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by Hooks Orpik on Nov 12, 2009 11:39 PM EST up reply actions
I’m curious what happens to the lines when that happens. Do they go back to Cooke Staal Kennedy, or is Cooke going to stay on the fourth so that there’s at least some talent down there?
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Cooke-Staal-Kennedy is a lock to return….They’re too good together, arguably the best 3rd line in the game. If/when everything gets close to normal those three willbe re-united, bet on it.
They floated Staal every once in a while up to Malkin’s line, I’d think that’d continue.
Kunitz, Guerin, Fedotenko and probably Talbot as the top 6 forwards. If/When Talbot is in a scoring rut there’ll likely be a committee Dupuis, sometimes Staal, maybe a little Rupp will take top 6 minutes in a very fluid manner.
The 4th line, when healthy will be Adams, some Dupuis some Talbot some Rupp. Hardly talentless, even though limited.
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by Hooks Orpik on Nov 13, 2009 12:03 AM EST up reply actions
I think it’s easily the best third line in hockey when it’s clicking. Maybe it’s the contrast in skill between the third and fourth that makes the fourth look so pedestrian.
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While it may look pedestrian by comparision, it’s how they won the Cup last year. Those guys might not be very skilled, but they still have other talents.
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by Hooks Orpik on Nov 13, 2009 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
Can I just ask WHY Washington is so high on this guy? I mean, are you interested in having him return to the Caps?
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It’s a feel-good story.. five years working his way up, in the same draft class as other notable Caps. That said, fans are pretty split on Chris Bourque. We had over 1,000 posts at Japers talking about it when he left.
Personally, I’m a huge Chris Bourque fan. I actually became a Caps fan in 2004 when they drafted him. So, there’s that. I’m absolutely interested in him returning to the Caps.
The overall fan base probably wouldn’t mind, especially with Nylander on the outs. He really did get a raw deal, being told he made the big club and being shipped off to waivers in mere hours after a grueling pre-season scrap for what really was his do-or-die moment with Washington (at the time).
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Maybe I’m just spoiled by seeing rooks or guys with little NHL time step up and make an almost immediate impact, so perhaps I’m just being impatient. But really, that missed goal on a wide open net tonight really left me with some bitter feelings toward him and questions of his role, if any, with Pittsburgh.
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Bourque is an AHLer. I don’t really understand even picking him up. i think they were hoping he could work on Geno’s RW. I haven’t seen anything from him tho. He’s been given the chance I thought they would have given Pesonen last year. PP time, played with Sid and Geno. A better chance than any AHLer they’ve had up, and he just hasn’t shown much. I think him and Conner need to play a top6 style role to be effective and thats not going to happen here. Those guys are just to small to play in the NHL. They have great speed but neither of them use it to their advantage to compensate for size like TK does. They get pushed around too much. Washington can have Bourque back because i think he’ll be going back through the waiver wire in a few weeks.
by genomachine-O on Nov 13, 2009 8:10 AM EST up reply actions
why did they sign Ryan Bayda if he isn’t up right now?
I cant imagine another situation where they could use him more.
by genomachine-O on Nov 13, 2009 8:27 AM EST up reply actions
I’m wondering the same thing… we have at least 2 guys down in WBS currently that can help the team more in the current man-shortage… meaning Bayda, Jeffrey and/or Letestu
You have to see it for yourself...
Conner was sent down to the minors today.
I would think that Bayda or maybe Wallace gets the call if Malkin can’t go.
I don’t have a problem with them calling up Conner at first, I thought he had a slightly better camp than Bayda.
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by Hooks Orpik on Nov 13, 2009 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
I’ll second that. I liked Bayda when he was playing in Carolina and he’s certainly got more grit and grind than Borque and Conner.
by puckhead45_82 on Nov 13, 2009 4:46 PM EST up reply actions
Oh I should have made a game note that Crosby hit left post and right post on the same shift.
Too bad Bob Errey never put up: “2 posts = 1 goal” on the screen….Despite the fact that, you know, hitting two posts is not equal to one goal.
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And capped it off with a penalty in the same shift. I’m sure he’ll be happy to put that game in the “spilled milk” column.
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The only column he maintains is one for Stanley Cups. Currently occupied.
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by Hooks Orpik on Nov 12, 2009 11:44 PM EST up reply actions
Some things people miss when talking about injuries
Is that our top prospect, Eric Tangradi, is also hurt. It would’ve been nice getting him some NHL seasoning plus he is better than Conner or Bourque. Would’ve been nice. And if he played well – all the better. I bet it would’ve gone like Go-Go last year. Up and down play but next year ready to rock n roll. Oh well, Tangradi is coming back soon (but hopefully so are our top 6 forwards).



















