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Fight, fight, fight; score, score, score, score, score, score. Pens embarrass Flyers 6-1

Flyers vs Penguins coverage - Broad Street Hockey

The Philadelphia Flyers, if nothing else, are known as a physical rough-and-tumble bunch.  The Pittsburgh Penguins matched that willingness with three fights early (and a busy day tomorrow for Dunman!).  Hockey is more about just the fisticuffs and the Pens are able to do that too, scoring six of the seven goals from Sidney Crosby, Bill Guerin, two by Jordan Staal, Ruslan Fedotenko and Evgeni Malkin.

One team is in a groove, getting good goaltending and playing strong defense....And the other is not right now.  The results were as clear as the scoreboard; a 6-1 virtual whitewashing by Pittsburgh.

  • Riley Cote was the only Flyer that escaped a minus in the plus/minus column, and he got a grand total of two shifts and 0:31 of ice-time.  Conversely, only Tyler Kennedy and Craig Adams were the only Pens that weren't pluses.  Just one of those nights.
  • Shots ended up being 35-27, hardly the edge to demonstrate the zone time and puck control that Pittsburgh had all night long.  Crosby, Malkin and Kris Letang led the way five shots on goal a piece.
  • Strong effort by Marc-Andre Fleury getting in front of 26 of 27 shots.  The Flyers did throw them on him, and he was there.  Fleury's 8-1-1 and has given up 2 or fewer goals in eight of his last ten games and is sporting a .927 save percentage over that stretch.
  • About the only place the Pens didn't dominate was in the faceoff circle; Philly won 60% of the draws, no Penguin player who took more than one draw had over a 50% rate.
  • The blowout allowed the Pens to mix things up.  No forward played more than 18:50, much under the season averages of guys like Crosby and Malkin.  Defensively, only Sergei Gonchar played more than 20:00 minutes -- and even his 23:39 was under yearly average.  Philly, playing catchup, had seven of their players go over the 20:00 minute mark.  Might this show up in the second game of the home-and-home?
  • Brooks Orpik had 2 assists, Eric Godard had a nice flip that got him an assist, Staal wristed a nice shorty and a tap-in rebound, Fedotenko went 1 and 1, as did Malkin....You could go almost all the way down the line.  Almost everyone who dressed made nice plays and a lot of them ended up in the net.  Just one of those nights.

One of those nights indeed.  Pittsburgh re-takes their lead for most wins league wide and the Flyers must be as frustrated as ever.  Things change, and change quickly in the NHL.  Philadelphia will get a shot in the arm with their crowd --and stewing over their performance -- on Thursday.  If the Pens aren't out the gates running, make no mistake, Philly (with a 9-7-2 home record) will make them pay.  But if the boys in black-and-gold have another showing like tonight, it'll likely be the same result.

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FYI: Ryan Parent also managed to escape a minus. And he actually played over 18 minutes. I was completely and utterly shocked that anyone managed to do this. He wasn’t even on the ice for a Penguins PP goal.

Now, if it had to be anybody on the team, I’m not surprised it was Parent.

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by Geoff Detweiler on Dec 15, 2009 10:35 PM EST reply actions  

Thanks for the note, Geoff…Either the statsheet I saw was wrong or I bungled it in my giddiness (probably on me)

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by Hooks Orpik on Dec 15, 2009 10:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Wonderful game.

Thoroughly enjoyed taking a break from final project preparation for this one. Emails have been sent to Flyers fans, reminding them of Pittsburgh’s dominance.

Ahhhh…I love beating the Flyers.

by docciavelli on Dec 15, 2009 11:40 PM EST reply actions  

Great game. Awesome first period. Total team effort tonight…helps that the Flyers suck (for now..)
Orpik now has 13 points (all assists) on the season – that’s as many points as Fedotenko has, and in fewer games too. How about that?

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by PensFan8725 on Dec 15, 2009 11:49 PM EST reply actions  

Orpik’s strung some really good passes together this season….And I think he’s almost ready to score his yearly goal here soon…

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by Hooks Orpik on Dec 16, 2009 12:37 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Just Wanna Say

ooooooooooooooooooooo ya!

VERY Sweet!

by mdmiller on Dec 16, 2009 12:39 AM EST reply actions  

My buddy from Philly would not take my calls after the 1st period. He would only reply to texts and say that he didn’t wan to hear me gloat. He was listening on internet radio, due to Versus, but he still was bitching, even into the third period, about how the refs are biased to the Pens. UNBELIEVABLE.

THAT WAS SO SWEET. Now they just have to win ugly on Thursday. Based on the pugilistic match-ups that took place last night, we are always going to end up 2-1 or better. Goddard is a better tough than anyone on the Flyers (Cote), Rupp is better than the Flyers #2 (Asham or carcillo, but carcillo would never, EVER consider dropping against Rupp) and Carcillo is better than anyone the Pens have left willing to drop the gloves, except maybe Guerin if he is pissed off. Maybe Adams will be the healthy scratch and Mad Max can get another shot at Carcillo, although this time using his arms instead of his face to block Carcillo’s punches!

by Ulf Murphy on Dec 16, 2009 9:00 AM EST reply actions  

He was listening on internet radio, due to Versus, but he still was bitching, even into the third period, about how the refs are biased to the Pens. UNBELIEVABLE.

Considering how awful our PP has been, I don’t think the refs being biased towards us would make much of a difference.

by SlayerGhaleon on Dec 16, 2009 10:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

All summer all I heard from him was how biased the refs were to the Pens and Bettman “rigged” the friggin Stanley Cup Finals so Sid would win a Cup. PLEASE. Max took 5 fists to the face from Carcillo last year and the team woke up. We have a better system, more skilled players and the discipline to not take the MOST stick infractions in the NHL. This “rivalry” is getting very one-sided, and I LOVE it.

by Ulf Murphy on Dec 16, 2009 11:05 AM EST up reply actions  

It’s obvious to me that the refs caught wind of Pittsburgh’s changes to the power play and wanted to give them ample opportunity to test it out. That’s the only reason I can find as to why the refs were calling penalties on the Pens. It’s pretty evident that not a single Flyer was worthy of a call.

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by FrankD on Dec 16, 2009 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Anyone know if we have to reset the injury timer? Staal getting hit with that puck looked bad, but Guerin getting hit with that puck looked even worse.

by JustinM on Dec 16, 2009 10:16 AM EST reply actions  

Staal at least was able to come back, but I didn’t like how either of them looked. Hope an update comes soon and they’re both good to go tomorrow.

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by GreenEyedLilo on Dec 16, 2009 10:19 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m keeping my ears open on that one. I’ve yet to hear or see anything yet. If any of you catch it before Hooks or I do, by all means toss it up as a fanpost.

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by FrankD on Dec 16, 2009 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

This was beautiful. Damn, I’m still happy about it. I dread Thursday ‘cause I know the Flyers will be pissed, but I’m stoked about Thursday, too!

Man, the Flyers make it so easy to hate them.

"Darling, you say Brooks Orpik 'checked' that guy. He did not 'get under him and put him into the wall'."--Beloved to me, Winter 2007

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by GreenEyedLilo on Dec 16, 2009 10:18 AM EST reply actions  

Staal is really coming into his own this year. In the past hes shown flashes of what he can do. Hes really starting to bring his game on a more consistent basis. He completely dominated last nights game. His work down low against Pronger was remarkable, Pronger couldn’t knock Staal off the puck. Staals really learned how to use his big frame, and is developing into not only a great 2-way player but a dominate power forward. I couldn’t be happier for the guy. He gets a lot of grief for not putting up a lot of points. The other things he does on the ice don’t go unnoticed by me thats for sure. The points will come, hes not going to put up huge numbers. If he hits the 60 pts mark for a max thats fine with me. I really think he has to be considered for Team Canada. He is the perfect shut down center. He sees the 2 forwards he would be responsible for shutting down in practice every day. If he doesnt make it I think the biggest reason why could be faceoffs. Who is going to be the shut down center for Canada Mike Richards? Give me a break.

by genomachine-O on Dec 16, 2009 10:37 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

I’ll agree with your assessment of his work behind the net, but his work in front of the net still makes him look smaller than he is.

by JustinM on Dec 16, 2009 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Good post, but the Olympics remind me of the all-star game. It is not about who can stop the other team, but who scores the most goals. There is too much talent on the Big 3 (Russia, Canada and Sweden) too worry about who the shut-down center is going to be. No one is shutting down Geno in between Ovechkin and Kovalchuck. Likewise with Sid between Nash and Iginla. I am salivating thinking about it!!

And BTW, Staal will be the number 3 center (maybe #2) for Canada in 4 years when he is doing the same things he is currently doing, but on a every game basis. He is still only 21.

by Ulf Murphy on Dec 16, 2009 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Wow, I didn’t really think about it, but Malkin-Ovechkin-Kovalchuck is just INSANE. Hell Sid-Nash-Iginla is nuts as well. I am going to feel very sorry for the US defense come vancouver.

BRENT

by spookygeek on Dec 16, 2009 11:06 AM EST up reply actions  

I have heard that the Russian team may keep Jizz and Ovie together though, making Datsyuk the third line center. SCARY.

by Ulf Murphy on Dec 16, 2009 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Well your analysis of whoever scores the most goals wins is very John Maddenesque I’m going to disagree. Read any article on Burke or Yzerman and the way they are building their teams. You can’t have 4 scoring lines. You definetely need to have a shut down line. Not to many teams are going to like their chances playing run and gun against a team like Russia. I think you absolutely need a defensively responsible line. Plus Staal kills penalties and can play the wing if need be. I’m not saying hes def. going to make it by any means i just
think he is closer to making the team than you give him credit for. If I’m picking the team Staals there call me a homer if youd like, I think I just understand what all the guy does for the Pens, and how big he came thru in the clutch against Detroit last year.

by genomachine-O on Dec 16, 2009 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm there

I’ll be at the game, all-be-it, in plain clothes. Too many bad experiences as a youth in Philly wearing a Pens Jersey. I’ll try and provide so comments. -No Promises though.

by tehchico on Dec 16, 2009 12:14 PM EST reply actions  

I’ve worn Pens jerseys to all the Pens-Flyers games I’ve gone to and never been harassed. Although, my dad was always wearing a Flyers jersey so maybe that helped.

by ipenguin67 on Dec 16, 2009 5:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Just random oddness from Pens summary:
Sergei Gonchar’s one-timer from the midpoint was blocked by Error! Reference source not found.. (I can only assume this was Carcillo)

by ipenguin67 on Dec 16, 2009 5:21 PM EST reply actions  

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