Links: Crosby/Talbot to be in Jan 1 commercial, a prospect's season is over

by Hooks Orpik on Dec 16, 2009 1:02 PM EST Comment 24 comments

Ron Cook would have rather seen Max Talbot than Eric Godard last night in a little anti-fighting rant. Yeah, um, because Talbot would never fight a Flyer...[Post-Gazette]

Penguins prospect Keven Veilleux's rookie season is likely done as he's going to have shoulder surgery. [Penguins Insider]

Sidney Crosby talks about his basement and the famous dryer, which has been made into a commercial for the Winter Classic game. The real story here: Talbot will also be in the commercial. Expect any different? [USA Today]

About a dozen scouts have been trailing the Flyers lately, are they about to make personnel moves? [Chipped Ice]

Penguins/Flyers named best rivalry of the decade, Crosby/Ovechkin named best individual rivalry. [Sports Illustrated]

I don't know what's going on here, but that's definitely not Mario Lemieux. [PSAMP]

Spector shoots down a lot of rumors, including why you won't see Jack Johnson as a Penguin anytime soon (duh). [Spectors Hockey]

In early voting, 55% of Flyers fans are 0-30% confident in the direction of the Flyers. [Broad Street Hockey]

The shooting gallery in front of Marc-Andre Fleury in the early part of the decade added up to the Penguins' being one of the most out-shot teams of the decade. [Behind the Net]

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a reason to watch

i now have a reason to watch the winter classic. that commercial will probably be hysterical.. chitty chityy cah cha

" Lord Stanley, scratch thier names on your fabled cup" Mike Lange june 12, 2009

by oldtimehockey09 on Dec 16, 2009 1:58 PM EST reply actions

I’m planning on watching it just because I think it looks awesome outdoors. (I’ll be a Bruins fan for the day, and my future stepdad says I’ll be converted, but he’s wrong.) That commercial will be a very nice reminder of where my real loyalties are.

"Darling, you say Brooks Orpik 'checked' that guy. He did not 'get under him and put him into the wall'."--Beloved to me, Winter 2007

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by GreenEyedLilo on Dec 16, 2009 6:16 PM EST up reply actions

Thats what happens when the Steelers stink.A guy that doesn’t watch hockey usually until April has to start writing about a sport he doesnt understand.

by genomachine-O on Dec 16, 2009 1:59 PM EST reply actions

agreed. stfu cook

but he does have a point about the shenanigans

" Lord Stanley, scratch thier names on your fabled cup" Mike Lange june 12, 2009

by oldtimehockey09 on Dec 16, 2009 2:00 PM EST up reply actions

I notice there’s not a place for reader comments on Cook’s article. Pity. I imagine there could have been some good ones.

by RuthenianCowboy on Dec 16, 2009 5:01 PM EST up reply actions

Yeah the column was asinine. I don’t know how you could watch that game, including the fights, and not feel pure joy and satisfaction. It was a thrilling game and a glorious victory.

But I have to say this line of the Cook column “Certainly, there didn’t seem to be a lot of holiday spirit and good will toward men in the arena.” — made me laugh out loud, so I have to thank him for that. Yeah, what would Jesus think of fighting in hockey? So close to Christmas? for SHAME young men.

by Cari on Dec 16, 2009 5:06 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

Yea but you know that kind of stuff is going to happen against the Flyers. I just hope Hartnell mans up and drops them with Rupp tomorrow. You pull what he did against Letang and you better be ready to answer the bell. Thats the reason I don’t have a problem with fighting in hockey. Max has been struggling a lot since hes come back I didn’t have a problem with scratching him. You know your going to need Goddard against philly and you cant scratch anyone else really. Maybe Adams, but hes been playing better than Max.

by genomachine-O on Dec 16, 2009 2:14 PM EST reply actions

Godard may have taken Talbot’s spot in the lineup last night, but the reason Talbot is scratched is guys like Pascal Dupuis (who was a healthy scratch at points last season) is scoring and playing well, Rupp has been great and Craig Adams has done very well as the 4th line center.

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by Hooks Orpik on Dec 16, 2009 2:23 PM EST up reply actions

I agree I hope it turns into one of those games where the star players drop the mitts. Potential matchups I would love to see. Richards vs. Crosby, Carter Vs. Malkin, Pronger vs, Anyone.

by burtonboypa on Dec 16, 2009 3:15 PM EST up reply actions

At this point I don’t think the Pens stars need to fight.. Better for them to stay on the ice and do what they do best (score). Let guys like Godard, Rupp and Adams oblige the fights and take the majors, Pittsburgh’s in the business of winning games, not brawls.

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by Hooks Orpik on Dec 16, 2009 3:19 PM EST up reply actions

That is true, but every once in a while you get one of the games where everyone gets into it. There is no need for Crosby to fight, when he is pounding them on the score sheet. It is just wishful thinking.

by burtonboypa on Dec 16, 2009 3:27 PM EST up reply actions

I won’t lie and say I’d hate it if Malkin or (especially) Crosby kicked a Flyer’s ass, or even just held his own. But they’re not all that great at fighting. (Crosby was okay against a Wild player whose name I won’t bother looking up earlier this year, but the Flyers are something altogether different.) They’re needed on the ice, scoring and assisting, not in the penalty box. Then there’s the bone-chilling possibility of one of them breaking or injuring a hand and being out for a while. No, let them concentrate on keeping the goal light lit.

"Darling, you say Brooks Orpik 'checked' that guy. He did not 'get under him and put him into the wall'."--Beloved to me, Winter 2007

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by GreenEyedLilo on Dec 16, 2009 6:06 PM EST up reply actions

This paragraph made the entire article lose its credibility: “[Adams’ fight with Carcillo] brought back memories of Talbot’s one-sided fight with Carcillo in Game 6 of the teams’ first-round playoff series last spring. It was dramatically one-sided in Carcillo’s favor, yet the Penguins still will tell you that Talbot’s willingness to go gave them the juice to climb out of a 3-0 hole and turn out the lights on the Flyers’ season with a 5-3 win. Funny, I thought quick goals by Ruslan Fedotenko and Mark Eaton immediately after the fight were a bigger factor in the comeback.”

Lol anyone who thinks it was a coincidence that Feds and Eaton score right after that fight doesn’t know too much about how the “little things”, such as fighting, affect the game.

Crosby v. Richards is the most likely of those three. I hope it doesn’t happen, but with the little rivalry those two have had for years, it’s definitely possible. It would be great if Sid won a fight against Richards in Philly…Maybe the Philly fans would respect him a little more (it seems that the most common explanation when they say why they think he sucks is because they think he’s a p***y)…forget it, that will never happen.
It’s also interesting that Richards wasn’t so talkative when Crosby already had his team up 2-0 six minutes into the game.
The one matchup I really want to see is Godard/Rupp v. Hartnell…He needs to pay for the biting incident.

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by PensFan8725 on Dec 16, 2009 5:42 PM EST up reply actions

I know! If someone were saying that to me in person about the Talbot fight not being an energizer, I’d be drumming my fingers on the table and staring at them until they got just how obviously stupid they were being.

My granddaddy used to tell us how sometimes, a person’s dislike for you can be a high compliment. Would you really want Crosby to become a player who the Philly fan base liked/respected? I’m okay with them hating his guts forever. Let others get their respect; our guys can just take their points.

I want someone to get Hartnell, too.

"Darling, you say Brooks Orpik 'checked' that guy. He did not 'get under him and put him into the wall'."--Beloved to me, Winter 2007

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by GreenEyedLilo on Dec 16, 2009 6:13 PM EST up reply actions

Crosby could beat up Richards, Stallone, kill some puppies, and and walk out of the Wachovia with a Phillies jersey on and Flyers fans wouldn’t respect him. Respect and Philly are two words that just don’t go together.

by genomachine-O on Dec 17, 2009 8:58 AM EST up reply actions

the ole 29er said that Bylsma would scratch a forward, and the scratch would have nothing to do with his play. Take it for what its worth

by Hansmoleman on Dec 17, 2009 12:21 AM EST up reply actions

Real shame for Veilleux, I had high hopes to see what he could do as a professional and he only gets 9 games.

Hopefully this is a speedbump and not a major derailment of a guy who really needed the development time.

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by Hooks Orpik on Dec 16, 2009 2:24 PM EST reply actions

Yeah that’s definitely a downer. Hopefully he can bounce back and hold off the whatever Angelo Esposito vibes may be trying to latch on.

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by FrankD on Dec 16, 2009 4:02 PM EST up reply actions

oh come on, don’t even mention Esposito… such a curse could not be repeatable :)

I’ve seen 2 games of the WBS Penguins with Veilleux in the lineup and he’s so big, skates well and has soft hands… shame about the serious injury…

You have to see it for yourself...

by Bla Razor on Dec 16, 2009 5:58 PM EST up reply actions

wait, we have a rivalry with the Flyers now?

That’s news to me.

by fetch9 on Dec 16, 2009 3:52 PM EST reply actions

rivalry...

doesnt that mean that the other team has to win one at some point?

" Lord Stanley, scratch thier names on your fabled cup" Mike Lange june 12, 2009

by oldtimehockey09 on Dec 16, 2009 8:11 PM EST up reply actions

They still have a huge lead in the overall series….Wasn’t it from like 1974-89 the Pens never won in Philly…We still have a lot of making up to do for them

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