Pittsburgh Penguins 2010 Olympics Preview
All across SB Nation, the team-blogs are contributing to a preview of players on their teams and the chances they face to make their respective countries Olympic team in Vancouver in the upcoming games.
Behind the jump let's take a look at the Penguins who won't be having a nice two week vacation in February.
Pack your bags
Sidney Crosby (CANADA) - Canada, who suffered a disappointing 7th place finish in 2006, is eager to add a former scoring champion, NHL MVP and the youngest captain to ever claim the Stanley Cup to the club. Despite the snub in '06, Crosby's got international experience; he was the youngest player to ever score a goal in the World Junior Championships (WJCs) in 2004 and led Canada to a gold medal in that tournament in 2005. Crosby also ran with the Olympic torch through his home province of Nova Scotia. He's the lock of locks to be Canada's #1 center with two strong, sniping power forwards in Rick Nash and Jarome Iginla having the inside track to be the wingers.
Evgeni Malkin (RUSSIA) - The reigning Art Ross and Conn Smythe winner is a surefire Olympian for the formidable Russian team. Malkin's also a decorated international player: winning two silver medals in the WJC's in 2005 and 2006, and he's played in the World Championships (when not in the NHL playoffs) in 2005 and 2007. Further, Malkin scored six points in seven games for Russia in the 2006 Olympics in Turin (the season before he came to the NHL). During the summer he practiced at Russia's orientation camp on a line with Ilya Kovalchuk, which is frightening to think about what those two could put on display.
Sergei Gonchar (RUSSIA) - Gonchar is the Pens #1 defenseman, he can do it all: lead a power-play, rush the puck, make smart passes, get the puck on the net, and also eat up 25-27 minutes a night and play smart, positional hockey in any situation. It's easy to figure that Russia will use him in a similiar role. Sarge is a highly decorated international competitor; he's appeared in the last three Olympics -- winning a silver medal in 1998 and a bronze in 2002. All that's missing is the gold.
Nearly a lock
Marc-Andre Fleury (CANADA) - The only thing preventing Fleury from the Olympics is the sheer depth of players at his position from Canada. But Steve Mason and Cam Ward (the other leading contenders from summer camp) fell on their faces this season, so Fleury has to be a top contender to make roster. Team Canada figures to lean on New Jersey's Martin Brodeur and Vancouver's Roberto Luongo for all the playing time, even if Fleury's resume over the past year cannot be touched in terms of winning hockey games.
Fleury's international experience is mainly remembered by a huge gaffe in the gold medal game of the 2004 WJC . He tried to clear the puck and it hit a teammate and ended up in his own net, which proved to be the game-losing goal for Canada. However, Fleury was named tournament MVP of the WJC's in 2003, and save that one mistake in '04, has generally been solid in his international experience.
In a battle
Bill Guerin (USA) - At age 39, Guerin's a tested warrior. He's kept up pretty well with no less than Sidney Crosby all year, so Team USA could do well to add him and not have to worry about his gameplay (6 goals, 11 assists in 28 games his season). What doesn't bode well for Guerin is he wasn't invited to the summer camp and may not be on the radar as much as some younger wingers who're having solid years. Guys like Jason Blake, Jason Pominville, Jamie Langenbrunner could be fighting for a spot or two. Also fellow old war-horse Mike Modano (3 goals, 5 assists in 14 games) is still in the picture and could be the graybeard that USA chooses instead.
In all likelihood the Yanks will tab someone younger, but Guerin ought to be in the conversation for an American team that could use his leadership and experience. That calming presence in what will be a mainly young American locker-room could be a big benefit alone, as the Penguins can attest to from last spring.
Brooks Orpik (USA) - Team USA seems really wide-open in terms of personnel. Aside from Brian Rafalski and Ryan Suter, one could argue the rest of the defense is on the bubble. Some of the names in the mix with the most consideration: Paul Martin (who Brian Burke has spoken highly of), Mike Komisarek, Ryan Whitney, Erik Johnson, Tim Gleason, Tom Gilbert, Jack Johnson, Ron Hainsey and Rob Scuderi.
Orpik's case could be the closest call of any Penguin. He plays top unit minutes for Pittsburgh and often matches up at even strength against the opponent's top line. Though Orpik's not much of a goal-scoring threat, he's on pace for a career high 26 assists -- something that accurately reflects his ability to move the puck effectively in the offensive zone. He skates well for a guy that's 6'2, 225 lbs and is always among the league leaders in hits and blocked shots. With 400 career NHL games, he has significant experience against the top players that he'd have to face.
Penguins GM Ray Shero is a part of the USA brain-trust, and the truculent endorser himself, Brian Burke, is calling the shots -- two guys who have to like Orpik's style. But do they favor Orpik more than maybe Komisarek and the a Johnson? That's what it may come down to.
Jordan Staal (CANADA) - A somewhat surprising invite to Canada's summer camp, Staal could be a role player to make it. Some reports say he's competing with a host about five or six players for two roster spots. These are likely going to be checkers/grinders/all-around forwards like Mike Richards, Shane Doan, Patrick Sharp, Ryan Smyth, Brenden Morrow and Dan Cleary. Probably a tall order to knock some of those guys out, but Staal does have sublime size and skill and the added flexibility that he can play center or the wing. Given who Canada could trot out center (Crosby, Getzlaf, Lecavalier, Thornton, E. Staal, Toews, Carter/Richards) it may be that Jordan goes as a winger, if he somehow squeezes in.
Work to Do
Martin Skoula (CZECH REPUBLIC) - Skoula represented the CR in the 2002 Olympics, but wasn't picked in 2006. He's been a solid fill-in for Pittsburgh and the Czech's don't have that deep of talent on defense once you get past Tomas Kaberle. Perhaps Skoula could be in the running as a long shot, but it looks like he might slide under the radar.
Moving Up
Alex Goligoski (USA) - See the Orpik note for the big mix of defenders vying for Team USA. Goligoski was among the leaders in defenders in points and plus/minus before he suffered a groin injury in November. Despite his recent excellent play, Goligoski has less than 70 NHL games under his belt currently and is probably just too much of a late riser for 2010. There's no doubt Goligoski's star is rising, but he's just out of time to crack the Olympics this go around.
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Those are all the Penguins with realistic chances or expectations of Olympic considertion. In the most common scenario I see four Pittsburgh players going (Crosby/Fleury to Canada and Malkin/Gonchar for Russia). Orpik probably has a fighting chance, Staal maybe on his luckiest day and Guerin if there's injuries. For everyone else it's probably vacation time. And in case you were curious about the under-the-radar countries: Ukraine failed to qualify for the 2010 Olympics, leaving Ruslan Fedotenko a man without a team.
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Good take, Hooks. I don’t see Guerin making Team USA barring a ton of injuries, and that’s probably better for the Penguins and his old body. I also don’t think Staal will make Team Canada (any of them). They are so deep with centers and a lot of them already have the PK ability Staal brings, but with much more offensive upside. Team Canada has been known to go for the more one-dimensional role players but I think they are trying to move away from that based on some of the quotes I’ve heard after the last Olympics.
I think Orpik should make it. He’s a much better skater than Komisarek and has all the toughness. I’m a huge fan of Komisarek, but he’s not having a great year (though he’s getting better) and he’s definitely not as mobile as Orpik. If USA wants to medal they need guys that can skate with the Russians, Swedes, and Canadians. It really is impressive how deep USA defense has gotten all of a sudden. At the end of last season I thought it would be a liability but now it doesn’t look as bad. I’d also put Bogosian above JJ. Yeah, he’s young, but JJ is not really impressing me so far (-10 on a decent/good team). I also don’t think Whitney should make it. I’ve never been sold on him and I think he’s been coasting on his draft status and backdoor PP goals for a long time. I also think Ballard (insert joke here), Leopold, and Liles could all make a push depending on their next ~20 games and how much offense Burke wants from the blueline. I could see Scuderi making it as a 6/7 but I think he’s probably an injury replacement.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 2, 2009 1:36 PM EST reply actions
I don’t think Staal makes it either, though he may be closer to making it than I thought….But if it comes down to him or Doan or Morrow, it’s an easy choice and one J Staal doesn’t win. Canada’s too stacked.
Bogosian could be on that bubble too, I pretty much only listed those at summer camp. I’d take Rafalski, Suter, Whitney, E. Johnson, Orpik and Ballard (with Leopold and/or Komisarek) and hope for the best, if I was calling the shots. But I’m not.
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Ballard will hurt Team USA more than help, why with his wild stick-swinging antics. Jay kayyyyy
I’ve always been impressed by Ballard’s defensive side, even if he did throw down with Crosby once before. I know you’re a big supporter as well.
Team Canada is easily the hardest team to make out of the 7. I don’t see Staal finding a place on there, but I think Stevie Y may gravitate towards a solid two-way player. But I also don’t see Doan or Morrow getting the back seat on this either.
Too many ifs, ands or buts right now for some guys.
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I can’t understand why Ballard didn’t even get an invite. Makes no sense. I’m not sure if it was here or somewhere else that I asked whether Ballard’s stick incident made him more or less desirable to Burke. Truculence rules the day.
I thought Komisarek was a lock going in, and I still think he’s on because his coach and GM run the team, but I’m not as sold he’s a lock. My top 6 USA D would be Rafalsk, Suter, Orpik, Ballard, Martin, and then E. Johnson or Komisarek. But there are definitely a few more guys you can’t count out and it probably depends who has the best Dec. and Jan. for a handful of guys.
Agree that I don’t see how Morrow is off, but I also don’t see how Doan is on. He’s a great guy, good leader, tons of Team Canada experience, but the guy he’s been keeping off Team Canada for years has been Marleau. They can’t keep Marleau off now can they? He’s good defensively, offensively, PK, PP, ES, a league leading scorer and has chemistry with Thornton and Heatley. How is he off? It’s going to be interesting to see how they play it and there will be a lot of tough decisions. Canada could ice two teams capable of medaling.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 2, 2009 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
I’ll be rooting for Russia come Olympics time… I’m a little worried about their D, especially with Markov very questionable… Sarge will be leading the way, but I don’t see them getting a group of 6 as strong as the ones of Canada and Sweden.
And on offense… if Malkin plays the wing how about a Ovechkin-Datsyuk-Malkin line? and may be keep the Atlanta all-russian line together and put them as a second one?
From the Pens’ point of view I definitely hope Guerin doesn’t go to Vancouver, so he can get some rest, cause I think the age is starting to take it’s toll
You have to see it for yourself...
What country are you from again, Bla?
Markov is on the mend sooner than thought, he should be good to go in February without worries, assuming he doesn’t suffer any setbacks from now til then.
Russia has spread their offense out, if their summer practices are any indications they’re gonna use Semin/Ovechkin on the top line (probably with a two-way KHL center)…Then they’ve paired Malkin/Kovalchuk together (with Alex Frolov) and they have Datsyuk on the next line..
Though the way Kovalchuk/Afinogenov have played together, especially Afinogenov’s resuregence might have them think twice about keeping that combo together….No matter how they stack it, there’s gonna be a lot of firepower.
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I’m from Bulgaria, a small country (nearly the same size as Pennsylvania) on the Black Sea. We use to be part of the Soviet block of countries and I grew up watching a lot of Russian hockey during the late 80s… so we’re kind of “family”:) I also like the Czech and Slovak teams, but not the Scandinavian ones.
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If they play AO/AS with a KHL center I’ll root hard against Russia. I’ll be rooting for anyone to beat Canada, so Russia and Sweden are at the top of that list, but I’m sick of the KHL PR crap. It’s not as good a league, get over it. They want to say 50% of Team Russia will be from the KHL? Have fun not medaling. Their D isn’t good enough for them to rely on winning low scoring games (though they do have some goalies who could get hot in a short tournament). They need that offense clicking on all cylinders, and to do that you need to give AO and Kovalchuk and elite center. Match each of those scorers up with Malkin or Datsyuk and you have two dominant lines. Frolov is a great 3 C for an Olympic tournament. They have the parts to medal, but if they let this PR “the KHL is really teh awesome!!!1” BS get in the way I’ll be real upset.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Dec 2, 2009 4:36 PM EST up reply actions
I watch some KHL games from time to time and there’s still a huge gap in the standard of play. Anyway I like the whole pan-european-league idea if they can develop it and include elite Swedish, Finnish, Czech and Slovak teams and may be a German and a Swiss one. Then with some good marketing and a idea or two stolen from the NHL it could be a very good league.
Back on the subject… I’m quite sure they(the Russians) will call a couple of KHL veterans with NHL experience like Fedorov and Morozov to try and help elevate the team in those close games.
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I don’t mind them having KHL vets. Morozov has been a mainstay on Russia’s international competitions, and I’m sure Fedorov could add something in a limited role. But talking about a 50% KHL team (as Tretiak said in Montreal the other day) is absurd. And talking about any KHL players in the top 6 forwards is also absurd.
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