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Pittsburgh Penguins at Philadelphia Flyers, Feb 21, 2009 1:00 PM EST


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PITTSBURGH PENGUINS (28-25-6) vs PHILADELPHIA FLYERS (31-16-19)

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Leading scorers: Jeff Carter (34G, 25A), Mike Richards (22G, 35A)

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It's not often that Penguins fans find themselves cheering for the Flyers, but If you're pulling for the best interest of Pittsburgh (regardless of grudges) then Philly's 6-3 win over Buffalo Thursday night was a welcome sight. 

Combined with Pitt's win over Montreal, the Flyers helped the Penguins move within four points of the eighth place Sabres.  Now if they'd kindly allow the Penguins to pick up two more points, that would be swell.

The Penguins hold a 3-1 series lead over the Flyers this season, but remain 1-1 on Philly ice.  Obviously that will change after today's game, preferably for the better.

Philly is 5-2 for the month of February, but both losses have come at the Wachovia Center. 

Perhaps there's also the time factor to consider.  The Penguins are 1-3 in games starting on or before 1:00, or in the case of Florida, 1:05 (why?).  This may be one of those stats that implies the Penguins are simply horrible during afternoon games, or it can be one of those things that eludes even the most analytical of experts.  Either way, the 6-3 loss to the Flyers back on December 13 was a 1 pm start.

Expect Martin Biron in net for the Flyers.

Marc-Andre Fleury likely in net for Pitt despite his shaky outing against the Canadiens.

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Heres to hoping that new coach will mean new luck in the afternoon.

by AngelaMc on Feb 21, 2009 1:04 PM EST reply actions  

Is it Philly fans that are popcorn throwers?

by AngelaMc on Feb 21, 2009 1:07 PM EST reply actions  

There is some testosterone on the ice today I see.

by AngelaMc on Feb 21, 2009 1:12 PM EST reply actions  

The boys are working hard out there, I like their sense of urgency.

by AngelaMc on Feb 21, 2009 1:45 PM EST reply actions  

not a bad 1st period. this team is playing with more intensity. no doubt.

by raimman on Feb 21, 2009 1:47 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, there is some speed, normally i’m yawning during these afternoon outings.

by AngelaMc on Feb 21, 2009 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

i agree. fed with a nice screen.

by raimman on Feb 21, 2009 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

if Malkin was a righty….then that would have been a sure goal

by penskorn6687 on Feb 21, 2009 2:08 PM EST reply actions  

I had no idea he would be producing this soon. I thought it would take a little time to get back into mid-season form, he is looking good thus far.

by AngelaMc on Feb 21, 2009 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

where the heck is Frankie?

by penskorn6687 on Feb 21, 2009 2:13 PM EST reply actions  

Frank, Hooks and Dunman not around, maybe they are stuck at work?

by AngelaMc on Feb 21, 2009 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

i’m sure they are in a position to at least be keeping an eye on the score.

by penskorn6687 on Feb 21, 2009 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

i wonder what hal gill’s 40 yd dash time is.

by raimman on Feb 21, 2009 2:16 PM EST reply actions  

ouch….hope he’s ok……hate seein guys go down by a puck to the face. Anyone here seen Running Scared?

by penskorn6687 on Feb 21, 2009 2:16 PM EST reply actions  

never heard of it. any good?

by raimman on Feb 21, 2009 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

paul walker is in it and near the end something happens involving an arena, some hard slap-shots, and 2 guys’ faces being held against the ice. Just guess what happens. A great movie though all in all.

by penskorn6687 on Feb 21, 2009 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

on skates or on foot??…..either way….he isn’t breakin any records.

by penskorn6687 on Feb 21, 2009 2:17 PM EST reply actions  

i’m loving this new style of play. Really focuses on our speed. Thats one thing that 3rd/4th liners usually have.

by penskorn6687 on Feb 21, 2009 2:25 PM EST reply actions  

I was skeptical that a coaching change would do the trick, fingers crossed it seems to be effective.

by AngelaMc on Feb 21, 2009 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

if you think about the changes, it kinda makes sense. Our 3rd/4th liners can’t score consistently but speed seems to be something that the majority of this team has. Byslma is really using the skills that we have and you are right, it seems to be working.

by penskorn6687 on Feb 21, 2009 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I always have my doubts about unsportsman like from Malkin, the dude seems so impervious to that kind of stuff.

by AngelaMc on Feb 21, 2009 2:31 PM EST reply actions  

and gloating to the other teams bench in international play

by penskorn6687 on Feb 21, 2009 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

great aggressive PK. nice clear Dupuis

by penskorn6687 on Feb 21, 2009 2:32 PM EST reply actions  

one of the best periods of the year

by raimman on Feb 21, 2009 2:36 PM EST reply actions  

Hey yall. Definitely been keeping an eye on the score. Had some family over for lunch so it was on in the background but had a chance to catch that second period. What a game so far.

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by FrankD on Feb 21, 2009 2:40 PM EST reply actions  

family? we are your family!

by raimman on Feb 21, 2009 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

hah well then, come on over for some pizza next weekend.

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by FrankD on Feb 21, 2009 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

If you’re in the mood for some extra entertainment, be sure to read the comments on Broad Street Hockey. And they say Sid cries a lot…

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by FrankD on Feb 21, 2009 2:44 PM EST reply actions  

i don’t even care anymore that ppl say Sid cries. Everyone complains in hockey at some point or another. Can’t they find anything new to say?? Gretzky complained. Lemieux complained. I’d rather be a whiner and be top 3 in scoring year in and year out than an average player who keeps his opinions to himself on the ice.

by penskorn6687 on Feb 21, 2009 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh great, a shorthanded goal

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by FrankD on Feb 21, 2009 2:57 PM EST reply actions  

I don’t know why Satan didn’t crank up a one-timer there

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by FrankD on Feb 21, 2009 2:58 PM EST reply actions  

Well we have ourselves a game again

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by FrankD on Feb 21, 2009 3:02 PM EST reply actions  

dreaded 2 goal lead again.

by penskorn6687 on Feb 21, 2009 3:02 PM EST reply actions  

go back to your family frank. i think that may be best today.

by raimman on Feb 21, 2009 3:02 PM EST reply actions  

I know. I suck

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by FrankD on Feb 21, 2009 3:03 PM EST reply actions  

like i said the other day about D-men foolishly putting their stick in the line of fire. It did look as though Scuds did have a decent shot at intercepting that shot or blocking it as it wasn’t a very hard shot

by penskorn6687 on Feb 21, 2009 3:04 PM EST reply actions  

Maybe now we know who next game’s scratch is going to be on D

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by FrankD on Feb 21, 2009 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Letang is scratched again I see. Does that mean Bee is gonna rotate D scratches every 2 games?

by penskorn6687 on Feb 21, 2009 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

This line matchup is kinda uneven right noe

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by FrankD on Feb 21, 2009 3:07 PM EST reply actions  

well, was…

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by FrankD on Feb 21, 2009 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

TAAAAAANK

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by FrankD on Feb 21, 2009 3:08 PM EST reply actions  

beauty….way to go Tank

by penskorn6687 on Feb 21, 2009 3:09 PM EST reply actions  

good job Dupes too for takin that hit but bad job in takin that penalty

by penskorn6687 on Feb 21, 2009 3:09 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah no kidding. We get a little jump and he kills it.

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by FrankD on Feb 21, 2009 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Someone better keep Hartnell out of the crease. We already know he’s a no-talent hack. We don’t need him getting a lucky deflection goal…

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by FrankD on Feb 21, 2009 3:11 PM EST reply actions  

the dupuis-tank-crosby line might be a keeper

by raimman on Feb 21, 2009 3:11 PM EST reply actions  

wow….the fans are real upset at an offsides….a penalty i understand but offsides they do love their flyers and sure get into it.

by penskorn6687 on Feb 21, 2009 3:12 PM EST reply actions  

Can’t knock Philly fans for their loyalty. Or any team for that matter. But they’ll just as easily turn on their team as they will cheer for them. I guess that’s the one distinct characteristic of Flyers fans

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by FrankD on Feb 21, 2009 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

you should see Leafs fans jump all over a guy when he ‘s slumping. Really strange but T.O. is a HUGE hockey market so you can’t blame em like you said.

by penskorn6687 on Feb 21, 2009 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah they’ve been ragging on Blake since he came on board

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by FrankD on Feb 21, 2009 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ve seen them jump on Antropov, McCabe, Hoglund, Raycroft, etc. among many others

by penskorn6687 on Feb 21, 2009 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

This PK unit looks confused

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by FrankD on Feb 21, 2009 3:12 PM EST reply actions  

how are you likin the new run and gun style Frank?

by penskorn6687 on Feb 21, 2009 3:13 PM EST reply actions  

I’m all for it. This is how they should’ve played all season long. So it’s nice to finally see it

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by FrankD on Feb 21, 2009 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

atdhe might be the best thing ever.

by raimman on Feb 21, 2009 3:13 PM EST reply actions  

yup….i just cancelled my gamecenter subscription cause of that. Frank is awesome

by penskorn6687 on Feb 21, 2009 3:14 PM EST reply actions  

bows

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by FrankD on Feb 21, 2009 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Gamecenter is still a bit too new to work properly. The idea is good but they definitely had some issues this year

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by FrankD on Feb 21, 2009 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I cancelled my subscription as well because atdhe is awesome, but I also have hockeystreams.com just in case; )

by AngelaMc on Feb 21, 2009 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

thx for the other link.

by penskorn6687 on Feb 21, 2009 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

i agree. i had problems maximizing and minimizing the screen without it automastically logging me out and sending me to the radio feed. Real annoying when you have to constantly log back in and hope that you get sent to the video and not radio.

by penskorn6687 on Feb 21, 2009 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah that was the problem I had, hockeystreams.com cost 10 bucks a month, not as good quality as atdhe but always there, plus you can watch games that you miss the next day or whatever so a good deal in my books: )

by AngelaMc on Feb 21, 2009 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Now it’s al about the clock

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by FrankD on Feb 21, 2009 3:16 PM EST reply actions  

Fleury with what may be the game saver there

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by FrankD on Feb 21, 2009 3:17 PM EST reply actions  

so much for game saver.

by penskorn6687 on Feb 21, 2009 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow, that was fast

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by FrankD on Feb 21, 2009 3:19 PM EST reply actions  

Literally a break that worked in favor of the Flyers

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by FrankD on Feb 21, 2009 3:20 PM EST reply actions  

defensive struggle.

by raimman on Feb 21, 2009 3:20 PM EST reply actions  

way to capitalize PHI on Sarges broken stick just like Gonch did the other day.

by penskorn6687 on Feb 21, 2009 3:20 PM EST reply actions  

Goes around comes around I guess

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by FrankD on Feb 21, 2009 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

this is almost like a PHI PP with the way they play with 4 guys.

by penskorn6687 on Feb 21, 2009 3:22 PM EST reply actions  

It’s impressive…

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by FrankD on Feb 21, 2009 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

THAT WAS AMAZING

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by FrankD on Feb 21, 2009 3:24 PM EST reply actions  

OH DAMN

AHAHAHA Biron’s dumb.

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by Travis Hair on Feb 21, 2009 3:25 PM EST reply actions  

my fiancee is a coyotes fan!

by raimman on Feb 21, 2009 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

We'll she's...

A classy lady then :)

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by Travis Hair on Feb 21, 2009 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Now they just have to hold it

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by FrankD on Feb 21, 2009 3:25 PM EST reply actions  

and biron is dumb.

by raimman on Feb 21, 2009 3:25 PM EST reply actions  

damn right

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by FrankD on Feb 21, 2009 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

what a line Frank. You sure said it

by penskorn6687 on Feb 21, 2009 3:25 PM EST reply actions  

4 pts for Sid so far and good game for Richards too.

by penskorn6687 on Feb 21, 2009 3:28 PM EST reply actions  

And they claim Biron may be on the market before the deadline. What team wants him after a move like that?

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by FrankD on Feb 21, 2009 3:28 PM EST reply actions  

1. finish the game
2. get someone a hat trick.

1 more important than 2

by raimman on Feb 21, 2009 3:28 PM EST reply actions  

Tank or Sid with the emptynetter

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by FrankD on Feb 21, 2009 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

TALBOT how do you not finish?!

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by FrankD on Feb 21, 2009 3:29 PM EST reply actions  

That bit us once this year..come on now

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by FrankD on Feb 21, 2009 3:29 PM EST reply actions  

nice slow bouncing clear

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by FrankD on Feb 21, 2009 3:30 PM EST reply actions  

Great win. GREAT WIN

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by FrankD on Feb 21, 2009 3:30 PM EST reply actions  

3 stars
1. Biron
2. Crosby
3. Tank

by raimman on Feb 21, 2009 3:30 PM EST reply actions  

haha Biron was the Penguins’ player of the game

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by FrankD on Feb 21, 2009 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

That was a good hard fought win

congrats Pens.

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by Americanario on Feb 21, 2009 3:30 PM EST reply actions  

I don’t even care if we allow 4 goals a game ….as long as were averaging 5 goals FOR a game I’m happy

by penskorn6687 on Feb 21, 2009 3:31 PM EST reply actions  

I think we owe Broad Street Hockey a big thank you for Biron….

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by FrankD on Feb 21, 2009 3:32 PM EST reply actions  

I meant stop by and let them know ;-) Time to rub it in

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by FrankD on Feb 21, 2009 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

i went there, and left immediately because it requires me to sign up before posting…….and i don’t agree with their user agreement.

by penskorn6687 on Feb 21, 2009 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

hah good point

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by FrankD on Feb 21, 2009 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

good job by the Flyers too in erasing that 2 goal deficit

by penskorn6687 on Feb 21, 2009 3:32 PM EST reply actions  

they played a good game. It’s obvious they have a stacked team this year but that’s as far as I’m going on a compliment right now

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by FrankD on Feb 21, 2009 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

gulp turn-around? let’s see what happens tomorrow in my back yard.

by raimman on Feb 21, 2009 3:40 PM EST reply actions  

You’re in the DC area?

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by FrankD on Feb 21, 2009 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

just outside of it!

by raimman on Feb 21, 2009 3:51 PM EST up reply actions  

i hope the Pens secure the 6 seed and the Caps keep the 3 seed. I think i’m feeling another 3-1 series deficit comeback from the Pens.

by penskorn6687 on Feb 21, 2009 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ll be happy with 8 seed first. From there they can go as high as they’d like

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