52% of people say Sidney Crosby is a cry baby

by FrankD on Feb 6, 2009 2:56 PM EST in News Comment 12 comments

Take your penalty and go to the box. I've been saying it all year. As much as it hurts to say, I find this hard to argue.

It frustrates the hell out of me to see Penguins take a penalty. I get annoyed even more when it's Sid because now one of our top players is off the ice. But when he skates over to a ref, removes his mouth piece and starts flailing his arms around like he's on fire I lose my mind. We can't afford another two minutes. You hooked/slashed/tripped. I saw it. And while I hate to see you go to the box, take the penalty and shut up.

Let me just say this isn't any sort of anti-Penguins sentiment. On the contrary I like to think I see the team for what they are and not just what black and gold goggles will allow. Any Pens fan who has watched any games this year (and last...and last(er?)) knows that Sid talks after practically every penalty. If I'm in the crowd, especially if at a visiting team's arena, I slouch down a bit in my seat.

You're embarrassing me.

Sid is a playmaker when he's on the ice. His passion for the game is right up there with some of the greats. His reaction after a goal, wince after a post hit and gritting teeth through pain are all signs of that. But when it comes to taking a penalty he really just has to tone it down. All he does is feed the critics, who in turn vote him as the league's biggest crybaby by an astounding 52% vote.

This isn't the start of a nervous breakdown. I swear.

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If you are one of top three in points, you can beak all want!
When I look through my black and gold glasses, Sid has wings and a halo ; )

by AngelaMc on Feb 6, 2009 4:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Well as the Captain its his right to talk with the refs

I hear this same argument all the time with Tim Duncan, and as a Spurs fan as well, my response is “who doesnt do that?”

You only hear so much griping about Crosby/Duncan or any other star player b/c of who they are, and how theyre supposed to be above such things, but the very same intensity they are lauded for goes both ways-he wants to be on the ice, and when he’s taken off he gets upset, and Im sure part of that is the number of penalties committed on him that go unnoticed are probably fairly high

Certainly if it results in further penalties, you’d hope hed be mature enough to stop that, but on the whole, I dont have a problem with it, they all do it, he just gets more spolight so people take greater notice

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Feb 6, 2009 4:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Well said. Although I was primarily focusing outside of those “captain” meetings with the refs. But you’re right in saying that good players are often the subject of talk and debate along the lines of this survey. Such is the life of a top-rated NHLer.

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by FrankD on Feb 6, 2009 4:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

He's still young too

Not even 22 right? So the player he is at 30 could be more mature, but again, I dont see it as a problem

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Feb 6, 2009 5:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Right on. People said the same of Gretzky and Lemieux. But in Lemieux’s case he had a career of injuries that supposedly “held him down” but you wouldn’t even know it by looking at his accomplishments. Plague your average player with Lemieux’s injuries and they’d retire and sell insurance for a living.

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by FrankD on Feb 6, 2009 5:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

thats always my Lemieux was better than Gretzky standard argument

And he had more ppg for a while until his later years and he wasnt a p!@#$ like Wayne

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Feb 6, 2009 6:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I would have thought the number would have been even higher.

I was surprised that Savard only got 2%. That guy is always bitching about something on the ice.

by Stanley Cup of Chowder on Feb 6, 2009 5:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Haven’t seen enough Boston hockey to agree or disagree, but I admire your ability to slam on one of your own.

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by FrankD on Feb 6, 2009 6:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I'll agree that he talks to the ref's alot

but I wouldn’t say it’s exceedingly more than most of the other captains in the league…

by Stros Bro on Feb 7, 2009 3:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

The harsh glow

I think a lot of the problem we see with Crosby is he’s a fiery competitor who will play dirty to win or if he gets fired up.

Think a John Stockton type player, Crosby doesn’t fight or pound guys with his stick but he does play dirty. He also is the posterboy for the sport. Anything he does will be a bigger deal.

The way he acted his rookie year didn’t help.

by Phantaskippy on Feb 8, 2009 1:11 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

First off – great avatar.

Second, he definitely let’s his emotion run wild during games. Like I said, it’s great to see him get fired up after a goal but he has to tone it down with penalties. To his credit he hasn’t really been nailed with any misconducts this year (one if I’m not mistaken), but the team can’t afford the risk right now. They have a playoff spot to play for and really can’t allow for any mistakes like that.

And you’re totally right about his rookie year. If you start working at a new company chances are you want to give it your all but you should at least be conscious of your first impression. Go out there and score points and you’re the next big thing. Go out there and complain and cry and it’s a hard thing to break that stigma. Over time I think this will all pass, but for the time being people are only going to see a rookie Sidney Crosby whenever he talks to the refs.

Oh yes – the playoffs are coming too. In other words, cue the “diver” comments.

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by FrankD on Feb 8, 2009 10:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Hmm.

Ok, well first off the people/players who comment on Sid being a cry baby are what? 50% Flyers fans?? C’mon now, you see soooo many players yap at the refs everytime they get a penalty or somewhat and all of a sudden Sid is the only cry baby?? I think it’s ridiculous. Yeahh he mouths off to the ref but every fan/player/coach in hockey does. He has a problem with the call, then so be it. Doesn’t necessarily mean he’s a whiner…I mean when your in the middle of a game everything is so fast motion that when you make the penalty, ask any hockey player (other then me) half the time they don’t even realize it because there so into the game that they think it’s a bs call. But to look at Sid’s stats, and look at the teams he’s played then because he takes a penalty and he’s pissed off at it then call him a baby, is I’m sorry, but fucking pathetic… Look at ANY Habs player when they take a penalty. Yet I’m not off on them calling them anything. I just think that the ones who honestly call Sid a baby/whiner w.e, is pure jealousy. Second, I saw a comment on the diver think, w.e, It’s happened to Mario, might as well see it coming with Sid. But hey, he looks pretty good on that topic. Haven’t seen him dive in quite a few while.

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by xXBelieveInPenguinsXx on Feb 12, 2009 7:01 AM EST reply actions 0 recs