Pittsburgh Penguins vs Philadelphia Flyers [Game 4 Open Thread]
by FrankD on Apr 21, 2009 6:00 PM EDT
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PITTSBURGH PENGUINS vs PHILADELPHIA FLYERS
PENGUINS LEAD SERIES 2-1
IN PHILLY @ 7:00
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Tonight, much like Sunday, we're going to start the thread over at Broad Street. I'll toss the link up in the comments once I get it. Then for the second we'll come back, welcome/agitate the Flyers guys and then stay put and send them packing in the third. I think I speak for everyone when I say it's been pretty fun so far taking these road trips. If you're new to the site then please feel free to join in. Strength in numbers.
The morning skate ran with the same line combos as Sunday's game so nothing new to report about the lineup. No injuries to report for either team, although I'd imagine Kimo Timonen is still not 100%. Brooks Orpik and Matt Cooke will hopefully get through a game without having cotton balls jammed up their noses.
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Intense first period. Let’s get one in the second
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So…really don’t know what to think of that period. Intense for sure, but yet again passing up chances.
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By the way dude, how’d you get that gash over the eye?
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Yikes, looks pretty gnarly though.
When I played I either wore a full cage (college mandated) or nothing at all. Half visors never seemed worth it to me.
yea i am a half visor solely for blocking shots on d….as I am still trying to live the glory days out playing rec indoor roller…haha
You know of a league anywhere that follows anything resembling NHL rules? I play goal a lot and I hate rules that encourage cherry picking. It’s like the league should just be called Run The Goalie League.
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I don’t think I’d play if I couldn’t wear the whole cage or a full-face visor deal.
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I’d rather gold. Although I wouldn’t be opposed to a black and yellow third jersey next year.
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Personally I think the yellow looks much better. If you wanted the yellow as alternates wouldn’t you lose those baby blues you guys seem to love so much?
A lot of people consider the blues to be cursed somehow. I think they’re okay, but as blue jerseys go, I prefer this one.
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What do you think of your thirds? I work right across the street from the Lawrence County magistrate’s office, and it brings back memories of state cops taking in people in orange jumpsuits. I like the black ones a lot better.
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The way I see it is the Pens could’ve had one and the Flyers could’ve had one right back. Two big missed chances on both ends. We’re going into the second tied at 0-0 so 1-1 wouldn’t have made that big a difference.
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Period was wasted by both killing off stupid penalties
by chillicothe20 on Apr 21, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Ahh, that was a great steak dinner. First period wasn’t too shabby either.
PensBurgh penalty - Lavender - 2 minutes for hijynxing.
They stole one in Jersey, but blew the first at home. They need this one like the Flyers do tonight.
by chillicothe20 on Apr 21, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I know this isn’t exactly going out on a limb, but I got a feeling Carolina-NJ is gonna be a 7 game dance.
Canes not far removed from winning Cup.
by chillicothe20 on Apr 21, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Come on Cooke, you idiot. Stop letting them take you off your game.
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Back and forth, a couple penalties, couple of good chances. Fairly even.
Not nearly as much after whistle confrontations as last game though.
If that was on Orpik, I was going to apologize. However, that’s just a dumb penalty.
by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 21, 2009 8:09 PM EDT reply actions
I really think Cooke has hurt the Pens more this season than he’s helped
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Give him a blanket party, Full Metal Jacket style.
So long as he doesn’t shoot me.
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This is an ugly Powerplay, but the Pens keep losing the battles and can’t get the puck out.
by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 21, 2009 8:11 PM EDT reply actions
He rode the puck into the net. Can’t allow that.
by chillicothe20 on Apr 21, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Personally, with the call on the ice being a goal, there won’t be evidence to overturn
by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 21, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions
is the nfl standard at play here, must have “indisputable visual evidence” (whatever that means) to overturn?
That sure as heck isn’t a kicking motion or anything absurd.
PensBurgh penalty - Lavender - 2 minutes for hijynxing.
He didn’t punch it in. It was obiously a deflection. He wasn’t even looking at the puck
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Nah, it’s a goal. But very, very weird.
by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 21, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Looks like Sid got the wind knocked out of him too
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…and the NYI organization. Zzzzing.
by Rob Parker on Apr 21, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Haha, can you guys keep Sykora on the ice all series?? Please?
by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 21, 2009 8:16 PM EDT reply actions
in Charlotte/Raleigh not Jersey. my bad.
by chillicothe20 on Apr 21, 2009 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I normally wouldn’t agree, seeing as how it’s Staal, but let’s do it and see what happens. Couldn’t hurt
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I’m surprised Pitt didn’t decide to take a penalty too and make it 4-on4
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The announcers need to think of a nickname for Fleury. They insist on saying his full name every time he does something.
Random...
But that’s the first time i’ve heard a goalie slap his stick on the ground at the end of a PP in a loooooong time. Fleury always do that?
by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 21, 2009 8:21 PM EDT reply actions
Yes. Most do, it’s just not always easy to hear.
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Sheesh, second goal I missed while out here typing on this contraption.
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I demand a beach ball photoshop for that one.
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Randy Jones makes his first mistake of the playoffs, and gets burnt…
by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 21, 2009 8:23 PM EDT reply actions
Giroux needs to be with Carter. Or SOMEONE who will bury Giroux’s passes.
by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 21, 2009 8:25 PM EDT reply actions
Richards will just put it off the post. So yeah, stick with Carter
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I was thinkin Marian Hossa… He’s a free agent, right?
by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 21, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, at least it seems like he’s drunk for half the games…
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This could be big for Philly if they convert…
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Unobservancy
I just shouted, “MR. KENNEDY.”
…he’s in the box, whoopsie.
PensBurgh penalty - Lavender - 2 minutes for hijynxing.
Well, it must be even more true now!
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Man, the Flyers are starting to buy them now.
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The Pens are giving Philly WAY too many chances to get back into this
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To his credit, I don’t think MAF dove. He simply flailed.
by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 21, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions
He dove to make a save at the exact moment Richards’ skate hit him. I wouldn’t say it was a dive in the conventional sense of the word. More like a desperation save
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I agree with you, but another factor is that Fleury wasn’t comfortable last game (2 early goals). Once he settles in like this, like every good goalie, he’s tough to beat.
One could argue Biron, who started Game 3 very strong, benefitted the same way.
Travis just updated on Twitter a few minutes ago that the Flyers needed to get traffic in front of him. Even that’s not working right now
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In talking about the Richards tripping call, Errey started talking in falsetto. Maybe he’s high instead of drunk.
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Philly has been dominating this period. Fleury is solely responsible for the Pen’s even being in this.
I guess not. I thought puck in crowd has always penalty.
by chillicothe20 on Apr 21, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
This is officially MAF’s game and we’re all just watchin…
by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 21, 2009 8:43 PM EDT reply actions
Staal had all day to shoot that puck. Why did he pass?!
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Am I the only one who thinks “Geoff” when I hear Hartnell? Because of Courtnall back in the day.
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20 minutes away from wrapping this game up.
Thanks for joining us Flyer fans, I enjoyed the dialouge.
True. The Flyers’ PK has been kinda scary though
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Shit… well, MAF just won you the second period, probably the game, and quite possibly the series.
The only bright spot? He started to give up some rebounds, but your D was there for them.
by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 21, 2009 8:45 PM EDT reply actions
So far teams leading by two heading into the third combine for a 14-0 record.
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Different season!!!!
Oh wait, you meant playoffs. ;)
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haha I was gonna make reference to that but I figured someone would pick it up
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DET 3, CBJ 0
CAR 3, NJD 0
VAN 1, STL 0
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Thanks for the updates…
STL looks cooked and surely CBS isn’t much far behind them.
The other top teams out West are gonna get some rest, which doesn’t bode well for San Jose — as if they didn’t have enough problems on their hands already.
My Rinkotology bracket might be ruined after the first round. Ugh, heh.
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Mine’s actually looking decent since I called Anaheim winning….I got a couple wrong, but for the final four teams I’m lookin good…..Surely that will fall apart soon though.
Well you picked NJ and Washington right? Both are showing signs of turning that around
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Meh, I’m overreacting. I had the Sharks, Wings, Blackhawks, and Canucks in the West, and Bruins, Canes, Caps, and Pens in the East.
I wouldn’t cry too much if the Caps lost, though.
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Of course, the number of games is going to be all wrong. Some of them are already impossible.
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As always
Thanks again Pensburgh – gracious hosts as always. You know, as gracious as you can be by scoring 2 goals and taking the lead…
Digressing, it’s back home for the stragglers in orange and black!
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"...You know, Reemer, someday I'm gonna own a big sports bar."
Won’t they take a look at that? I need to see it again
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best of sports soup
the commercials
I blame Iowa.
It hasn’t even been on long enough to really warrant a best of.
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2 minutes for failing to get out of the way…
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2 minutes
to try to get the losing team back in the game
I blame Iowa.
The PA announcer said “No goal the whistle had blown” as if it was in but blown dead
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give him a break
prolly from philly
I blame Iowa.
That puck never went in the net, whistle or not.
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Versus announcer: “Penguins center Jeff Carter”
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the CBC announcer stated “if shooting the puck in doesn’t work for Philly. try shoving the goalie in”
Lifes rough, wear a helment
2 minutes
for trying to get the losing team back in the game
I blame Iowa.
Ridiculous call. Flat out fabricated.
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Truth, but that was a ridiculous save by Fleury.
by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 21, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Good save. Not ridiculous. It was too heavily aided by incompetence to be “ridiculous.” Just my opinion.
Eh. In this game, i’m just completely baffled by Fleury’s play. Utterly baffled.
by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 21, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok, This game there will be no complaining about ref bias. And if there is, I’ll shut them up. Carcillo got away with a cross check in front, and there was a hook on Hartnell let go.
by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 21, 2009 9:19 PM EDT reply actions
GASP
Thanks for that. It’s greatly appreciated
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Fleury is wearing 28 jerseys right now. He has this team on his back
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give him a 29th
he deserves it
I blame Iowa.
Depends on what you call quality. He faced about 35.1 shots per game as a rookie and did at least average for the team. The first time he was really, truly above average was last season.
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Christ, these fans will boo anything. Goalies love quick whistles, and the fans boo one.
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Carcillo being a hockey player? Eh, I expected it to take longer.
by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 21, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Nah, Fleury made a big mistake by staying in butterfly that whole time, getting knocked down or not. He should have been back on his feet by the time Carcillo took the shot.
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Seriously. If it takes THAT much to get one, I highly doubt we’re seeing another >knock on wood<
PensBurgh penalty - Lavender - 2 minutes for hijynxing.
You should know better. I was watching the Caps game last night with two guys I go to school with that are new to hockey. They kept trying to say “shutout” during the last half of the third and every time I saw it coming I just shouted them down. I had to wait until after the game to explain why I was screaming like a maniac.
ugh.
Just when I was in shock over the last save…
PensBurgh penalty - Lavender - 2 minutes for hijynxing.
If the Pens keep playing the clock and let up on the pressure they run a big chance of losing this one. Have to balance it out on the other end
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Three stars of the game so far: 3) Who cares? 2) Giroux 1) Fleury
Eliminating the possibility of Fleury winning all 3, of course.
by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 21, 2009 9:29 PM EDT reply actions
haha, if you’re implying he’s a Badass Lemieux, then yes.
by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 21, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m sure it’s getting Sid fired up though. He chanted back with that first goal
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Well, you can’t say Marty didn’t show up.
by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 21, 2009 9:36 PM EDT reply actions
Why is Steiggy insistent on turning that into a penalty? The dude fell over on his own.
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Pens have absolutely killed the Flyers in the circles
by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 21, 2009 9:39 PM EDT reply actions
Maybe overall but it seems like each team is winning it when it REALLY counts
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If it was Cooke it would’ve landed in the Flyers bench
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IT’S ALL OVER
clap clap clap clap clap
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Look at those Flyers fans. They can’t get out of Wachovia fast enough
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Sid was jawing with some punks in the crowd. Love it
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Just wanted to remind you we’re still here.
And you shouldn’t be surprised there were no dirty final seconds. You shouldn’t believe what you read in the PG.
by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 21, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, I think this puts to rest the question you posed earlier. And Biron didn’t even play poorly. But damn if MAF didn’t just own this game. What a blow.
by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 21, 2009 9:53 PM EDT reply actions
He was on fire. Looked a lot like the playoffs last year
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“Describe the zone you’re in right now.” – VS lady
“I hez go out zare and stop zee puck.” – MAF
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That’s when I want him to say “the twilight” and walk away.
What kind of dumbass question is that? It’s not even a question. I always wonder what the “reporters” are looking for when they ask those questions.
by Geoff Detweiler on Apr 21, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s even worse when they ask the obvious.
“How does it feel to win?”
“It’s…well, the desire outcome you idiot”
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Point two seconds on the clock. Game-winner past Brodeur.
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Game over. Canes win 4-3 with .2 seconds on the clock. Unreal
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