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Killer Instinct: The Penguins look to take out Carolina

When the Penguins have 3 wins in a playoff series in the Sidney Crosby era, their record is 5-4.  They eliminated Ottawa last year and Washington this year on the first time they had three games, but last year the NY Rangers and Philadelphia Flyers fought off sweeps and this season Philly extended their season a game.  Update: as did Washington this year.

Fact is, in three of the four games the Pens haven't ended series when they could have they actually got shutout-- and all of those games, like tonight's game came away from the confines of Mellon Arena.  So, as obvious as it sounds, getting on the board early could be a major hurdle, if only a mental or subconscious one.

Another important stat is that Pittsburgh is 5-0 in series this era when they do get to three playoff wins.  So while they've only gotten the job done on the first try two times, they've always managed to finish off an opponent once getting the commanding series lead.

In the elimination games here's some individual stats when the Pens have their foot on the opposition's throats (which does include the Game 7 when they were up against the wall):

  • Crosby: 6 goals, 7 assists
  • Evgeni Malkin: 3g, 7a
  • Sergei Gonchar: 1g, 4a (8 games)
  • Jordan Staal: 4g, 0a
  • Max Talbot: 0g, 4a, one game changing fight (7 games)
  • Tyler Kennedy: 0g, 4a
  • Kris Letang: 3g, 2a
  • Bill Guerin: 2g, 1a (4 games) 
  • Marc-Andre Fleury: 5-4, 2.42 GAA, .907 save percentage, 1 shutout

Fleury has been his usual "very good but not always great", never yielding more than three goals in games when the Pens can eliminate, but in half of the sample size he did give up three goals.

Ever since Dan Bylsma arrived, the Penguins have seemed in catch-up mode, just to make the playoffs.  Like Carolina with a similiar coaching change, Pittsburgh's had to rally since February just to make it into the playoffs.  We're seeing signs in the media that maybe the 'Canes may be "fatigue[d] from four months of playoff-style hockey", yet Pittsburgh is seemingly just hitting their stride.

To be sure, nothing is decided yet and Carolina will be literally playing for their immediate futures tonight.  If the Pens don't match the intensity and work to match that, then they'll probably lose again.  But if they've learned anything from past lessons in this situation, we'll see the Penguins killer instinct-- no doubt lead by the best players listed above leading the charge.

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Wrong

Your stats are wrong. The Pens blew the first chance to eliminate the Caps with a 3-2 lead. They won it in game 7

by biggoron on May 26, 2009 7:46 AM EDT reply actions  

Whoops

I missed that one.

But it wouldn’t make it wrong, just incomplete. I’ll update, thanks for the correction.

by Hooks Orpik on May 26, 2009 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

No Hooks you’re wrong. Everything is wrong. Wrong wrong wrong. /sarcasm

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by FrankD on May 26, 2009 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

You guys are starting to sound like every woman in my life, jeez :)

by Hooks Orpik on May 26, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Pens will show me something tonight if they can sweep

I’ll feel a lot more confident heading up against Detroit if the boys win tonight. The Red Wings are a machine – they don’t let up and they always execute – and the Pens will need to be a machine to beat them. While they don’t “need” to win tonight’s game, I don’t think there’s any excuse for having an off night when you’re 5 wins away from a Stanley Cup. If that doesn’t focus you and make you play your best, nothing will. They’ve shown they’re the better team in this series: now is the time to slam the door shut on the Canes.

P is for Latrobe.

by holiday park on May 26, 2009 9:26 AM EDT reply actions  

I will be thrilled with a sweep

But even without a sweep I don’t see this series lasting much longer. The Pens are clicking and losing four in a row just doesn’t appear plausible at this moment.

The interviews of the Canes appear to show a team defiant, but maybe a little bit in denial.
A win here doesn’t change my thoughts that the Pens are a big underdog against the Red Wings.

Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno

by carolinaeasy on May 26, 2009 10:11 AM EDT reply actions  

If the Pens would be big underdogs vs. the Wings, then what on earth would the Canes be? Why are you still here?

by chicos_pants on May 26, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because I am a Pens fan who lives in South Carolina!

If you had ever read any of my posts prior to this one you will find I am a pens fan. Not even a close second to a Canes fan. I like the Pens and the Thrashers. I just have the screen name carolinaeasy because my nickname is easy and I live in the Carolinas.

Don’t judge a book by its cover seems appropriate here.

Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno

by carolinaeasy on May 26, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

And the Pens will be the clear cut underdogs

The Wings have home ice, have depth, and are still the reigning champs.

I am a Pens fanatic and have been since the 80s when I blindly followed them as a small child, but as a hockey fan I can see that the Wings on paper are the better team. That does not mean I won’t root like crazy for the Pens, I just accept that they are underdogs.

Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno

by carolinaeasy on May 26, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

underdogs, yes. But over matched? Remains to be seen.

Datsyuk and Lidstrom are a little banged up this year while last year Crosby wasn’t 100% and Malkin was “exhausted”. That’s a big swing.

There’s a million more factors, but I think the Pens are much better positioned this season for a match against the Red Wings.

by Hooks Orpik on May 26, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with you

But on paper they are the better team. There is really no dispute there.

I agree that paper champs mean nothing unless you do it on the ice. I also believe the Pens will play alot better than last year. But they are the clearcut underdogs.

Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno

by carolinaeasy on May 26, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed but we will see. btw why on earth did you get banned on canes country for trying to bring up a logical hockey discussion?

" I AM CAPATIN CHAOS, and this is my trusty Sidekick cato. Say hello Cato"
Dom Deluise 1933-2009, Cannonball run

by oldtimehockey09 on May 26, 2009 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe it had something to do with the Sadaam picture I posted. I guess showing a picture of Sadaam when he got captured is offensive to some.

In the context of the conversation I was reacting to the fact that they tried to warn you for having an opposing point of view.
Oh well they have a nice site, I hope they become a little more understanding in the future.

Success without honor is like an unseasoned dish, it will fill you up but it won't taste good. - Joe V. Paterno

by carolinaeasy on May 27, 2009 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Heard today on NHL Live that Draper may be done for the playoffs too after suffering a groin strain/pull.

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by FrankD on May 26, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ya maybe we can settle down and not look star struck for the first 2 games and maybe steal one in Detroit, or both and stun the hell out of them. How deflating would that be if you lost both games at home to start of the SCF. Then we go back to mellon and sweep…ok ok i know settle down settle down…:-)

by JasonGoPens on May 26, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

i dunno...

sniff sniff
smells awfully a lot like a sweep to me

by t1mmy10 on May 26, 2009 10:43 AM EDT reply actions  

bring out the brooms

I feel a sweep coming…The Canes have no answers for Sid and Geno. Untill they do they have no chance.

by fmason79 on May 26, 2009 11:39 AM EDT reply actions  

Sweep

C’mon, wouldn’t you rather the pens lose tongiht and possibly win at home so you can watch the handshake there and see how the players avoid the Prince of Whales Trophey like it had the swine flu?

It’s always better when you win a major game at home

signed a Canes fan that really wants to see one more win at home :)

by kcljar on May 26, 2009 11:47 AM EDT reply actions  

actually, it was thoroughly awesome watching some dejected Caps fans file out in the 2nd period. There was a nice ad hoc celebration of the past season, but that’s little consolation to losing to a hated rival. Winning in Philly was even better.

Thanks, but we’ll be perfectly happy sweeping on the road.

by chicos_pants on May 26, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

the outcome of tonights game will be determined by the usual suspect…Fleury.
if he is giving up rebounds and the puck while out of his crease, the pens will have to score a half dozen just to keep up with his mistakes.

by AZpenzFan on May 26, 2009 12:39 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree…Fleury playing solid and the Pens jumping out with ideally an early goal (if not to take the lead) is they key to watch for.

by Hooks Orpik on May 26, 2009 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pens DVD?

I heard a rumor of the Pens/Caps series being released on DVD. Any truth to this?

As for the game, a sweet seems inevitable. Esepcially if the Canes don’t tighten up that D. I feel bad for Ward, but only slightly. Go Pens!

by HatTrixRforSids on May 26, 2009 2:22 PM EDT reply actions  

I haven’t heard that rumor, but if anything comes our way we’ll definitely give it a lot of coverage.

Welcome to the site and good username, btw!

by Hooks Orpik on May 26, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks, Hooks. Look time reader, never created a name/posted before though.

Yeah, it sounds pretty made up. I couldn’t find anything online or on the Post Gazette site. I’d certainly buy the hell out of it, though! Hopefully there will be a lot of highlights of that series on the Stanley Cup Champions DVD! Knock on wood. Enjoy the game everyone!

by HatTrixRforSids on May 26, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

If the Pens win tonight, they’ll continue the trend of winning every series this year on the road(Game 6 was in Philly, Game 7 was in Washington, Game 4 is in Carolina). They lost in both of their attempts to close things out at home thusfar. Maybe they feel less pressure in an elimination game on the road? Sure seems like it.

by Malsby on May 26, 2009 2:48 PM EDT reply actions  

had a similar thought

along the lines of, the Pens need to win tonight, since they don’t seem to be able to close out a series at Mellon.

If Carolina wins tonight, and that form holds true, you’re looking at a game 6 in Raleigh, with Cardiac canes hysteria in full bloom….so it might behoove sid and the boys to finish it off tonight…

by ahtrap on May 26, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

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