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Loose Pucks

Loose Pucks -- random thoughts and observations that are bouncing around my head.  This will probably be a semi-regular new feature around here, so let me know if you enjoy it

--Assuming he plays in every game, Marc-Andre Fleury will lead all NHL goaltenders in playoff games played for the second year in a row.  (Which by default also means this is the second consecutive year that the Penguins will end up leading the NHL in playoff games played).

 

--Detroit forward Valtteri Filppula leads the Red Wings with 13 assists this post-season.  Filpulla only had 28 assists in 80 regular season games this year.

 

--Is there a changing of the guard for the mantle of Detroit's power forward?  Tomas Holmstrom only has 6 goals in his last 37 playoff games; Johan Franzen has 23 goals in his last 32 playoff appearances

 

--From the "Chris Chelios is old" file: Chelly (then with the Montreal Canadiens) had already played 61 NHL playoff games and won a Stanley Cup before Sidney Crosby was even born in August of 1987

--From the "Sidney Crosby is still actually kind of young" file: Crosby's played in 42 (and counting) playoff games.  When Mario Lemieux was 21 years old he'd played in 0 NHL playoff games. 

Jaromir Jagr, who had the good fortune to enter the NHL on the 1990-91 Penguins, played 63 NHL playoff games (scoring 52 points).  It'd take another deep playoff run next season for Crosby to match him there, but Sid already has 60 NHL playoff points.

 

-- Assuming injuries to Nicklas Lidstrom, Pavel Datsyuk and Kris Draper won't prohibit them from playing, Detroit's lineup will look remarkably similar to the team the Penguins played last season.  There's been virtually no roster turnover, and from what I can tell the same players are playing the same major roles.

 

The only minor changes have been forwards Dallas Drake and Darren McCarty are gone (replaced by Marian Hossa and youngster Justin Abdelkader).  Defensemen Andreas Lilja is injured, but he's been more than replaced by Jonathan Ericsson.  Also technically the backup goalie has changed too, as old friend Ty Conklin sits on the bench instead of Dominik Hasek, but other than that the lineup and faces will be largely similar for Detroit.

 

The same cannot be said about the Penguins lineup  Last year at this time Pascal Dupuis and Petr Sykora were playing top 6 roles, which they won't this seres.  And the other two top wingers (Hossa and Ryan Malone) skated away in free agency.  The Pens have brought in Chris Kunitz, Bill Guerin and Ruslan Fedotenko to fill the roles of the scoring wingers that departed.  But further down the forwards have been revamped; Gary Roberts, Jarkko Ruutu, Adam Hall, Darryl Sydor and Ryan Whitney are all players that played against Detroit that won't be in the lineup this year.  That totals to nearly half the team that is either playing a totally different role (like Dupuis or Sykora) or gone from the organization altogether.

 

--Chris Osgood has posted an impressive .925 save percentage through the playoffs…But he’s only seen an average of 25.3 shots/game.  The Penguins have 34.9 shots per game, so it’ll be interesting to follow if the aggressive style Pittsburgh has adopted will result in more rubber on Osgood than he’s accustomed too.

 

--The Red Wings, however, have been the kings of shots on goal, leading the NHL playoffs with 39.5 shots/game.  Their puck possession style is legendary, and although it’s obvious, the series will likely be decided on what exceeds the most: the Penguins aggressive pressure game or the Red Wings more meticulous, controlling style of play.

 

--It’s foolish to put too much stock in the regular season games (one in November, the other in early February) but it tells an interesting tale…

 

In November the game was wide-open; the shots were 34 a piece and Pittsburgh won 7-6 in over-time on the strength of a Jordan Staal hat trick.

 

In February, Detroit clamped down, out-shot the Pens and imposed their classic style, winning 3-0 in front of Conklin.

 

Will the games more resemble the first or second game?

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Great new feature Hooks. That Crosby vs. Jagr playoff comparison was eye-opening!

by joshmejia on May 28, 2009 11:57 AM EDT reply actions  

thanks, glad you liked it.

I was surprised at Jagr’s point totals. I know they brought him along somewhat slow but for the eras they played in, it astounds me that Crosby has more playoff points to date than a young Jagr.

by Hooks Orpik on May 28, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gary Roberts, Jarkko Ruutu, Adam Hall, Darryl Sydor and Ryan Whitney are all players that played against Detroit that won’t be in the lineup this year.

All in all I have to say I’m OK with that. Gary Roberts replaced by Bill Guerin, Ruutu replaced by Cooke, Hall replaced by Adams, Sydor replaced by Boucher and Whitney replaced by Letang. I’d say those are upgrades across the board.

This is also Bylma’s first time coaching against the Wings. He missed doing so with Pitt by about a week in February.

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by FrankD on May 28, 2009 12:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Yea outside of Hossa, I think the Pens have balanced out what they lost with what they gained. Still, I think the line of Guerin-Crosby-Kunitz is a much more balanced line then Crosby with Dupuis and Hossa.

It should be a great series. The Wings are banged up so it s crucial for the Pens to take one in Detroit…..

by Jeremy Onyshczak on May 28, 2009 12:21 PM EDT reply actions  

I definitely agree. Plus if you fall in a 0-2 hole, you’ve got to beat a team 4 out of the next 5 games. It’s hard to do that against any team (Pens did it to Washington this year), but it’s almost impossible to do it to Detroit. I think we saw that last year in the Finals..

Also, welcome to Pensburgh.

by Hooks Orpik on May 28, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Osgood

Has faced fewer shots but before the Blackhawks series many of us were concerned with how he would stand up against a more potent offense than Anaheim or Columbus. We saw that he stood up pretty well with a 2.06 GAA in the series and great saves on some talented shooters. That being said, Pittsburgh has a whole different caliber of shooters and passers than Chicago—not taking anything away from them. It will be interesting to see how Oz does against the Pens again.

by Casey Richey on May 28, 2009 12:45 PM EDT reply actions  

o.0

wha, someone who is actually saying that the pens have a potent and balnced offenise? GTFO

but seriously it will be very intresting especially if the pens can control the play for large stretches at a time like they have shown they can do. this will be a great series. but i think the real key is the penguins back-checking. if they get back and play team d like they did against carolina, washhington, and philly it will be very tough for the wings to mount any sort of solid and consistent pressure against that d. it has been the key to thier run through this post season. yah sure sid and geno are hotter then a bug light in summer but you dont win on offenese alone

" I AM CAPATIN CHAOS, and this is my trusty Sidekick cato. Say hello Cato"
Dom Deluise 1933-2009, Cannonball run

by oldtimehockey09 on May 28, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

interesting stuff…keep it coming

by AZpenzFan on May 28, 2009 1:52 PM EDT reply actions  

always a fan of trivia/quick hits type columns

it’s the little things that keep it interesting, details like the mario vs sid vs jagr at age 21 comparison are fascinating to me.

also fascinating, the fact that I typed Jagr, instead of jaromir, is it because I’m a lazy typer, and don’t wanna bash out 7 characters, or is it because he’s not first name only material the way the other two are?

by ahtrap on May 28, 2009 4:18 PM EDT reply actions  

most deffinatly not first name material. the thing with jag’s is that he had the life here. when he decided to pack up shop and roll out he was not able to produce the same results on other teams. intresting the choices we make. personally i dont think his numbers are HoF caliber post pittsburgh. Had he stuck around, who knows.

" I AM CAPATIN CHAOS, and this is my trusty Sidekick cato. Say hello Cato"
Dom Deluise 1933-2009, Cannonball run

by oldtimehockey09 on May 28, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think there’s any doubt about whether Jagr will be in the Hall of Fame. The guy had almost 650 goals and 1600 points in the NHL; those are easily HoF numbers.

P is for Latrobe.

by holiday park on May 28, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Awesome writeup.

Hooks Orpik, I love this piece, it is very condusive to how things may pan out in this Cup series with Red Wings.

Phillip Bunting
"Stairway To Seven"

by SteelersChatPack on May 28, 2009 4:23 PM EDT reply actions  

where the series will be won
The Red Wings, however, have been the kings of shots on goal, leading the NHL playoffs with 39.5 shots/game. Their puck possession style is legendary, and although it’s obvious, the series will likely be decided on what exceeds the most: the Penguins aggressive pressure game or the Red Wings more meticulous, controlling style of play.

if the pens can force turnovers like the have the entire post season with thier forcheck they will bring the cup home. if the wings can carve up the pens forcheck with a scalple like they have the ability to, they take home the hardware. the pressure we put on osgood will hinge directly on this point

" I AM CAPATIN CHAOS, and this is my trusty Sidekick cato. Say hello Cato"
Dom Deluise 1933-2009, Cannonball run

by oldtimehockey09 on May 28, 2009 4:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Wings are sloppier this postseason than in the past, especially last year. seems like lots of defensive zone giveaways that scare me, that the Pens might be able to make hay out of. That may have been attributable to the physical play of the Ducks, but some of it carried over to the first three games against the Hawks. Remains to be seen what team shows up for the SCF, the Red Wings were missing probably 6 out of their top 18 for the last game or two against the Hawks…

by ahtrap on May 28, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is not the Pens team of last year in the SCF obvivously. This year I see the Red Empire being obscured by the power of the black and gold….FYI If the Pens win, it will be the 2nd time that the city of Pittsburgh has had champs in the same year (’79 Steelers, Pirates)

Geek of the Steelers nation!!!

by steelthunder75 on May 28, 2009 9:00 PM EDT reply actions  

ya but we all kno the pirates aren’t gonna win any sort of championship in the near future

by malkinmvp on May 28, 2009 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

or in the distant future for that matter

Geek of the Steelers nation!!!

by steelthunder75 on May 29, 2009 8:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good feature, Hooks. Keep it rollin’.

I’m assuming limited space explains the lack of a feature on the coming wave that is the Florida Panthers? Ya know, with all the playoff fluff?

by Donny Rivette on May 29, 2009 9:10 PM EDT reply actions  

im a fan of the panthers, its unfortunate they cant seem to find a mix of players to make it work down there. personally i think they need to do a garage sale and build the team back up ala caps/pens/wings (hurt to say) road map

" I AM CAPATIN CHAOS, and this is my trusty Sidekick cato. Say hello Cato"
Dom Deluise 1933-2009, Cannonball run

by oldtimehockey09 on May 29, 2009 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

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