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"When I compared the two teams, I felt like I would have a little better of a chance to win the Cup in Detroit"


We're not gonna rub it in, really....But this is too good and has been in every Pens' fan thoughts and dreams since it happened:

"It was a really tough decision for me to make,''  Marian Hossa told the Canadian Press. "When I compared the two teams, I felt like I would have a little better of a chance to win the Cup in Detroit."

It needs to be said though, if Hossa accepted the Penguins five year offer, they wouldn't have re-signed Brooks Orpik, they wouldn't have signed Miroslav Satan, wouldn't have been able to acquire Bill Guerin and probably wouldn't have dealt for the $3.75 million contract of Chris Kunitz.

As I've said before, Hossa's decision to spurn the Penguins ironically gave them a chance to get more depth and enabled their Stanley Cup run.

Still, at the time Hossa chose to risk a one year deal on the Red Wings over a long-term contract with the Penguins because he thought Detroit offered him a better chance to win the Cup.  And they met in the Finals and Marian got exactly 0 goals.

 And he got to watch Sidney, Geno and all the rest of his former comrades celebrate. 

Not the right choice.  Enjoy free agency again.

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In all honesty.

After the game ended all animosity toward Hossa ended. I honestly hope the guy does well. He was great for us for a playoff year, without him we might not have made it 6 games. Who knows?

Also, I think he was right, if he stayed with the Pens he would have had less of a chance to win then he did with the Wings. Unfortunately for him, neither would have come out on top with him.

If you want a ring Hossa, sign for 4 million

Max Talbot is The Superstar.
Tikka da da, tikka da.

by Phantaskippy on Jun 13, 2009 3:21 AM EDT reply actions  

I completely agree. We proved our points, and now I’ve moved on. We were better off without him.

The Pittsburgh Penguins are your Stanley Cup Champions!!

by jetpen89 on Jun 13, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Oh, buy Sam a drink and get his dog one too!" - Mike Lange

by gorgalor on Jun 13, 2009 3:25 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

The hockey gods do not appreciate it when you try to ride coattails to win the Stanley Cup, Mr. Hossa. May your name be mocked in infamy for years upon years.

"Oh, buy Sam a drink and get his dog one too!" - Mike Lange

by gorgalor on Jun 13, 2009 3:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

best pic EVER

" Lord Stanley, etch thier names on your fabled cup" Mike Lange june 12, 2009

by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 13, 2009 4:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

My new wallpaper!

You don’t happen to have a nice hi-res version do you?

by MarkJoel66 on Jun 13, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry, Mark! No can do :( I stole those pics off of Yahoo! and just added my own commentary. The images are at their original size.

"Oh, buy Sam a drink and get his dog one too!" - Mike Lange

by gorgalor on Jun 13, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Part of me was kinda hoping it was Hossa who took that final shot on Fleury. Everything happened so fast I had trouble keeping track, but when I found out it was Lidstrom I was mildly disappointed. Having Hossa miss the final shot would’ve just been too much to handle.

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by FrankD on Jun 13, 2009 3:40 AM EDT reply actions  

Wasn’t that a crazy save by Fleury? He pushed over twice to the right, then lunged his entire body at the puck. There was no way in hell that puck even had a chance. I was speechless when I saw it. I absolutely could not believe it, especially from the net cam angle.

"Oh, buy Sam a drink and get his dog one too!" - Mike Lange

by gorgalor on Jun 13, 2009 3:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

The "What if" Game

It’s hard to play the “what if” game over and over again. There are too many variables to work with. If Hossa stayed, maybe we aren’t able to keep Orpik and Staal. Or we wouldn’t have gone out to get Guerin, or Satan. But what would the tradeoff have been having Hossa on the team for the entire season? One of the reasons why the Pens struggled all year until Kunitz and Guerin were added was because Crosby was playing with third line wingers. We wouldn’t have needed Satan/Guerin if we had Hossa…

But thank god the “What if” game doesn’t have to be asked by the Pens (please reference Lord Stanley’s Cup)!!! Now it is up to Hossa to ask himself “what if” over and over again.

"Oh, buy Sam a drink and get his dog one too!" - Mike Lange

by gorgalor on Jun 13, 2009 3:46 AM EDT reply actions  

Two soulful cities...

Detroit and Pittsburgh… and after game seven, one team and it’s fans would be dropped to the depths of agony while the other would ascend to the heights of ecstasy . I do feel sorry for Hossa, as that back-story is classic beyond words… He has to be feeling the greatest agony.

This Stanley cup series reminds me of the 1960 Pittsburgh Pirates World Series victory over the then, mighty New York Yankee’s…. Detroit, like the NY Yankee’s of baseball, has one of the greatest Hockey teams to ever take the ice. Every pundit had you winning the cup… The only thing left to do was play the games. What a great and over the top series… And the Pittsburgh Penguins brought THEIR talent, team discipline, skills and a brilliant game plan to a full seven games and they beat the mighty Detroit Red Wings.

Always be wary of un-broken streaks and the odds based statistic of “there hasn’t been a team to do whatever…” those averages are never 100% And Pittsburgh now has the distinction of being the odds-breaker and WE are the Stanley Cup Champions. WOW… the Pittsburgh Penguins truly deserve to have their names engraved on Lord Stanley s Cup.

by Windog on Jun 13, 2009 6:27 AM EDT reply actions  

No Sorrow for Hossa

I feel no sorry or pity for Marian Hossa. He took a gamble and chose to try to win a Cup with Detroit and FAILED! And it is so great that he LOST to his ex-teammates and the PENGUINS! The players say it was nothing but you know deep inside they wanted this! Maybe next year Marian!

by twizzler89 on Jun 13, 2009 9:24 AM EDT reply actions  

The irony is that by leaving the Pens he made the Pens a better team. Despite the fact that his team lost the Cup if he was looking to win the whole thing the decision he made last year was the right one. He went to a Detroit team that won the whole thing last year, didn’t change a thing, and added a world class player, at least he was last year (what a ghost he was this series, right?).

No Hossa meant keeping Orpik, signing Fluery and Malkin to long term deals, keeping Staal who I am sure would have been the one to go to keep Hossa, moving Whitney for a much needed power forward and a top shelf prospect who may see a camio in the NHL next year.

Hossa’s move wasthe right move for him and the Penguins and for that I hold no animosity.

Lastly, why was it a big deal to sign Satan? Dude, his NHL career may be over!

Life is about one simple choice, get busy living or get busy dying

by Dr Tre on Jun 13, 2009 9:56 AM EDT reply actions  

The Whitney deal still probably would have happened. Or, could have happened. The Pens still would have needed another top 6 forward even if Hossa stayed. And the salary for Kunitz and Whitney was a wash.

"Oh, buy Sam a drink and get his dog one too!" - Mike Lange

by gorgalor on Jun 13, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eat it Hossa

Wasnt it funny when they started celebrating the camera instantly found Hossa?! Define Irony?!

by dptheo4 on Jun 13, 2009 10:02 AM EDT reply actions  

We couldve had Hossa and Orpik

Orpiks salary is roughly the same as Kunitz, keeping Hossa wouldve made one of the Kunitz trade, Fedotenko/Satan signings unnecessary

Okay, just so I understand it... in your wildest fantasy, you are in hell. And you are co-running a bed and breakfast with the devil.

by bren on Jun 13, 2009 10:42 AM EDT reply actions  

now i can give Hossa the nickname i've been saving for him: "Kryptonite"

I’ve said it elsewhere, but hockey teams win as teams, not as individuals. Hossa was in this season for himself, not for any team. For that reason alone, I’m glad he didn’t sign with us.

Something else to consider is how much money he cost himself with that 1-year deal. My understanding is that the Wings were all set to offer him a long deal before the Finals began, but they pulled it off the table somewhat abruptly. And given the overarching economics of the NHL (including a likely fall in the salary cap), it’s hard to imagine a team throwing a big-money multiyear deal at him. Certainly nothing as lucrative as what Edmonton offered. Especially after he vanished in the Finals.

P is for Latrobe.

by holiday park on Jun 13, 2009 11:19 AM EDT reply actions  

screw him

maybe if he scored atleast 1 goal in the series i wouldnt rub it in but he was just piggyback riding his teamates and it costed them the cup…screw MARYANNA WHOSSA

by crosbykillsflyers on Jun 13, 2009 12:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Hossa showed what a “world class” player he was in this series. It’s one thing to score 40 goals in the regular season against the likes off the Kings and Coyotes. It’s another to score ANY goals, much less clutch goals, in the Sanley Cup Finals. Hossa is a fine player when the spotlight is not on him. But unlike a Crosby, Malkin or Fleury, who live for the spotlight, he wilts under that pressure. So IMO he is not a $7MM/year player.

by Bassomatic on Jun 13, 2009 12:24 PM EDT reply actions  

So true...

Windog,
…’Always be wary of un-broken streaks and the odds based statistic of "there hasn’t been a team to do whatever…" ’

So true! The late Pirate broadcaster, Bob Prince called it the “Hidden Vigorish” that would always come back to get you.
So much for streaks!

by John Carter on Jun 13, 2009 12:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Maid Marian

Look we should all be sincerely thanking Marian Hossa for jumping ship. Not only did he provide a lot of extra incentive (As if they needed any) for the Penguins to get back to the Finals and get it done this time, particularly against Detroit, but he freed up a lot of $$$ for the Pens to keep other crucial players and make key signings. What most people forget is that Marian Hossa earned the nickname of “Maid Marian” because of his stellar performance in the regular season led to a big let down in the Playoffs. MM had ONE good playoff run, last year for the Pens. Basically a no show this season as usual. Sorry Maid Marian, better luck with another team!

by Dutch71 on Jun 13, 2009 7:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Other Cases...

Can anyone think of other instances when this has happened in sports? I can only think of some situations where guys, later in their career (though not necessarily washed up), have signed for less money in order to ride other stars (in their prime) to a championship. These are some guys of I thought of:

Ray Bourque – 2000 Avalanche (classic example)
Karl Malone & Gary Payton – 2004 Lakers
Barkley – 1996 Rockets

That really isn’t the case here because Hossa is still a top notch player. But in both types of situations, it seems to be somewhat of a farse. I mean, if you are a guy that’s a role player, and always will be, then maybe it makes sense to sign with a better team in order to get a championship. But if you are an elite player and try to win it as a lead dog but fail. And then determine that are you going to try and stack the deck by going to a a team that just won a championship (and take less $$ to do so). It seems like you are messing with karma.

by HoustonPA on Jun 15, 2009 3:03 PM EDT reply actions  

However Ray Borque did win a Cup with the Avs in 2001. Luc Robataille did in joining the Wings in 2002 (as a Kings fan as well I didn’t begrudge him) Rob Flake (A King who won at Colorado in ‘01) who I didn’t give a pass to. He left LA a lot like Jagr left the Pens, like a jerk! I was really PO’d when the Kings brought him back and acted like LA Fans would be happy about it. He still got booed occasionally, if I was in attendance for sure, by the HOME fans. No wonder he was dealt to the Sharks!
As for Maid Marian, I posted earlier, he did the Pens a big favor, and shutting up all the dings fans who talked about how great it was going to be seeing MM hoisting the Cup at the Igloo (after 4 games, then 6 etc. etc..) was priceless. I don’t begrudge the guy, he made a choice, cost the wings a lot of $$$ then was completely shut down (as usual) in the Playoffs. Rumors abound the wings are looking to re-sign him long term, I suspect he’s now forced to stay in Detroit, hopefully he won’t ever win the Cup, esp. if he does stay a wing!

by Dutch71 on Jun 15, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

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