Game 3 Recap Can't knock the hustle: Max Talbot's two goals, Evgeni Malkin's 3 assists lead the Pens to a 4-2 win over Detroit
by Hooks Orpik on Jun 2, 2009 11:15 PM EDT
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PrintFor two games on the road the Pittsburgh Penguins felt relatively good about how they played against the Detroit Red Wings. They only scored one goal per game, but they largely liked the shots they got, the chances they generated and they way the played.
In this game, both teams could be proud of the way they played. Detroit worked for their chances, Pittsburgh got some of their own. The Red Wings largely controlled the puck for stretches of the game. But at the end the Pens got more of 'em in the net then Detroit did.
- Evgeni Malkin continues to flex his muscles with three primary assists. Geno was an impact player all over the ice and he sprawled to block a shot in the final minute that shows the commitment the entire team has to winning.
- As the title aludes to, you can't knock the hustle of Maxime Talbot. Talbot opened the scoring less than five minutes in on a one-timer from Malkin. Then with just a few minutes left Talbot burst into the zone and threw a shot that beat Chris Osgood but it rang post. Not to be denied, Talbot forced a turnover later in the shift and got another shot.
- So it's only fitting that Max Talbot scored the empty net goal to seal the game....In a game the Penguins desperately needed to keep their season off life support their biggest "hustle" and "heart and soul" player came through. That's big league stuff that legends are made of.
- Out of sequence from this recap were the two power-play goals that two defensemen scored. First Kris Letang corralled a Malkin pass and slapped in by Osgood (screened by his own defenseman) to tie the game at two. That goal sent the game tied after the first period, badly needed for team pysche. In the third, with the game still tied 2 a piece, Sergei Gonchar wired a puck to the back of the net (with Bill Guerin in front).
- Detroit didn't back down and applied the pressue, as champions do. It took a total team effort by Pittsburgh to keep the game in hand.
- And Marc-Andre Fleury did his part. Stopped 27 of 29 shots and the ones that got by him again showed some unfortunate luck--Gonchar tried to clear the puck but it ended up on Henrik Zetterberg's stick. Wrong guy in the wrong place, you know that's ending up in the net. Then in the dying seconds of a first period power-play Zetterberg threw a cross-ice pass that glanced off of Hal Gill's stick and ended up getting to Johan Franzen. Franzen snapped a shot that just got inside the far post. Crazy bounces and luck, but you have to credit Detroit for making their luck count by finishing.
So that is that, we're at 2-1 in a race to four. As I highlighted earlier today, a team that loses the first 2 games on the road are really in trouble because they go on to drop one of their home games. Detroit will be hungry for a Game 4, and expect guys like Kris Draper and Hart nominee Pavel Datsyuk to be back in the lineup too. One game is a nice win, but it's still one game. Plenty of work to go, but you can't win the series if you don't win the first one. Big hurdle out of the way tonight.
13 wins down, 3 wins to go.
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great job pens, congrats!
three more!
I'll drink your Milkshake, I'll drink it up!
by Frank Mineo (DYMS) on Jun 2, 2009 11:19 PM EDT reply actions
Tough, win, Pens…tough win. The ‘6 on 5 fiasco’ will become a thing of legend. Still, breaks are breaks and we got ours tonight. The Wings brought it and somehow we hung in there and found a way to get this one. Let’s enjoy it while it lasts, because the champs will be back to bring it again in Game 4.
refs have sucked for the entire series- non-calls every way for both teams- don’t whine about that one. As a somewhat neutral party (Canes fan living in Pittsburgh – hence my name), both the wings and the pens have gotten gifts/non-calls all series. It is the way that they are calling it- stop whining, wings looked fantastic the first two games, but they were outplayed tonight- and the pens did look a lot better. You can yell at me for this post, but I as a hockey fan, with my team out, I am just hoping for a nice long competitive, thrilling, and enjoyable conclusion to the NHL hockey season- the better it is, the more butts it could put in seats next year- and the league needs it.
by PittsburghCaniac on Jun 3, 2009 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
I find it hard to believe that you wouldnt puke a little in your throat if the pens pull this out. since you have labled him a crybaby in virtually every post you have put up here.
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by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 3, 2009 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions
that depends. For Malkin, Staal, MAF- definitely not, would be happy for them- I like the players that havent been given the thrown prior to their first game. For Crybaby, Orpik (hit on Cole!)- would puke in my mouth. Zero sum game oldtime- plusses and minuses for all the endings.
by PittsburghCaniac on Jun 3, 2009 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Why does everyone equate ‘outplayed’ with ‘won game’? The Pens were largely outplayed this game, as the shot total indicates. If not for some post hits and timely saves, this would be 3-0 Wings.
I would argue that they were outplayed in the 2nd, while the 1st and 3rd periods were a wash…
(so ya, basically the Penguins were outplayed if you totaled up everything…but you make it sound so harsh when you don’t qualify it.)
"Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force; like fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful master. Never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action." - George Washington
by Hockey Beard in SLC on Jun 3, 2009 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Gotta disagree
The Penguins came out of the gate outplaying the Wings, but I would say the first period was a tie all together. The Wings outplayed the Penguins in the second, but couldn’t get the job done, and the Penguins absolutely owned that third period. It pains me as a Wings fan to watch such things, but that was a pretty solid drubbing on the Pens part. Sloppy play by the Wings and the Pens did what a good team should do when the other team is mucking it up out there.
I pretty much agree
but I think the wings were more dominant in the second than the Pens were in the third. So a slight edge to the wings for the game, but I would have given an edge to the Pens in game 2. It’s the bounces!
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Understatement of the year…
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by Hockey Beard in SLC on Jun 3, 2009 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions
I disagree
I think the series has been very, very even and that all three games have basically been decided by the breaks – bouncy boards and zetterberg’s hand in game 1, posts and a soft goal in game 2, 6 on 5 and posts (in the Pens favor this time) in game three. I think either team could have won any game. I think the Pens played great in the second period, game 1, and all three third periods. Aside from tonight’s third period, they have been outscored 3-0 in those periods. I think the wings best period of the series (by far!) was the second period tonight…and it was the only second period this series in which they haven’t scored. Someone has to be up at this point in the series, and the wings got the breaks in the first two games so they have the lead. If the Pens get the breaks again in game 4, they’ll tie it up, if the wings do, they go up 3-1.
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I definitely wouldn’t say “even”. The Wings sure seem to have the answer to Crosby and Malkin- how many goals have they had in the past three games? And if you take out the 19 mil combo of Cry-Malkin, the pens are a fairly average team. Tonight was a close game- and a fantastic hockey game at that. But, during the past two games, the Wings had an insurance goal on the pens, and it wasnt because of an empty netter. But, if the 19 mil combo get hot on their respective lines in game 4- they can be quite the challenge to handle- and that could lead to a comeback.
by PittsburghCaniac on Jun 3, 2009 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions
look troll, they had a combined 4 points tonight wich is more then the entire canes team right now. stop crying because you guys lost
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by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 3, 2009 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Hey Dearest oldtimehockey- I am being respectful and am purely talking about hockey- why do you have to resort to name calling- are we in the 4th grade? Please quote me where I have complained about the Canes losing to the Penguins- otherwise, graduate and move on to middle school.
by PittsburghCaniac on Jun 3, 2009 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions
you gragged the crap out of the city of Pittsburgh on the ’Canes board.
-David
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by pascaldupweevil on Jun 3, 2009 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions
that your intentions are questionable.
-David
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www.piratesmix.com.
by pascaldupweevil on Jun 3, 2009 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions
but have I spoken anything other than hockey on this post?
by PittsburghCaniac on Jun 3, 2009 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions
nope.
-David
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by pascaldupweevil on Jun 3, 2009 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions
I think PittsburghCaniac, despite loving his beloved Canes, is far enough from a troll to warrant comment. He’s not exactly loving the Pens but he’s not hating on the Wings either. I look at PC as a hockey fan just looking to catch the last few games of the season. If I’m wrong in thinking that PC, you may say so.
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eh
maybe redwing1 just got me all fired up for coming in and doing his thing on the other thread. course i am short tempered today because i have had to deal with yuppie eruos wanting thier airplanes today
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by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 3, 2009 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions
All this in light of Air France, huh? Bold AND daring.
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private jets. big money. tempermental little turds with napoleon complexes. if i was allowed to take pictures i would and post them. some really snazy stuff.
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by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 3, 2009 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions
oh wait, you got my email signature from my work email, do a google on the company. youll see some really ritzy things.
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by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 3, 2009 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions
I completely agree with your comment Frank- I really don’t want the NHL season to end- it has been a fantastic year.
by PittsburghCaniac on Jun 3, 2009 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions
you are hardley being respectfull sir.
And if you take out the 19 mil combo of Cry-Malkin,
couple more losses and the pens will be on their way to becoming the Bills of NHL.
I would love to see crybaby fail to get a cup again, but it would be entertaining for Hossa to have to watch him carry it. The penguins annoy me to no end for being the leagues babies (and Crosby really needs to buy or rent a place),
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by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 3, 2009 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions
The first one is funny because that’s like saying, “If Detroit took out Zett/Datsyuk” or “If Tampa Bay took out Lecav/St. Louis.” As for the Bills reference, I was kinda thinking that myself the other day but fail to see any team in the NHL make the Finals four years in a row these days.
As for the last, that may be just as big a troll comment as you can make but so be it. Raggin on Sid seems to be the course of action for any non Pitt fan.
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i just dont get why people cant come over and have legitimate discussions. you throw something like that out there and it just makes people (namely me) highly pissed because its extremly childish.
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by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 3, 2009 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions
its not like we go to other teams sites and blast thier players. our discussions about ovie were largely maintained here and they were respectfull and fruitfull discussions. even the guys from BSH were relativly cool. i’m just trying to rationalize someone elses mindset when they want to “talk hockey” then throw that out there. Sids a crybaby, ok fine but you also must be ready to admit that hes is one of the best playmakers in the league and a great leader skating and working hard every single shift and every single day
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by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 3, 2009 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions
oldtime- go read the crap that the pens fans posted on canescountry during the ECF. I am not blaming you, but some of your fellow pens fans sure posted quite a bit.
by PittsburghCaniac on Jun 3, 2009 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions
and I truly meant to discuss hockey until you started attacking me as a troll. Lets end this- it is not productive, nor is it conducive to this blog. back to hockey talk.
by PittsburghCaniac on Jun 3, 2009 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions
kinda hard to NOT start lobbing motar rounds when you open with wanting to see crybaby watching hossa sakte with the cup. but i have called the guns off.
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by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 3, 2009 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions
back to productive hockey talk- and regarding Crosby not scoring much- ya gotta remember that he has Zetterberg all over him- isnt that a plus? Just because he isnt scoring points doesnt mean that he isnt having a dramatic influence on the ice. Those two are cancelling each other out- and that is not necessarily a bad thing.
by PittsburghCaniac on Jun 3, 2009 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions
true words.
-David
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by pascaldupweevil on Jun 3, 2009 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions
i wouldnt say they are cancelling each other out, z did put one in tonight but the supporting cast came to play.
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by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 3, 2009 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah- he put one in- but I dont think one goal in three games is worthy of dismissing my claim.
by PittsburghCaniac on Jun 3, 2009 2:47 AM EDT up reply actions
but i also think that sid is wearing down zetterberg. each game they are getting more and more oppertunities and the quality is increasing also
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by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 3, 2009 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions
that is the key- crosby is younger and fresher on skates- he can definitely wear down Zetterberg. If the pens are going to win this series, it should be no surprise that this is front loaded in Detroits favor- the pens are hoping that youth will eventually take over. But wow, I cannot believe what a beast Zetterberg has been on Crosby- I have never seen anyone shut him down like that- it is really pretty impressive. Great hockey man- Great hockey! This is going to be a long series- and I cannot wait to watch every game.
by PittsburghCaniac on Jun 3, 2009 2:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Crosby has had great chances
he easily could have had a couple goals by now, and then we would be saying the exact opposite.
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In response-
1) “And if you take out the 19 mil combo of Cry-Malkin” Crosby was ranked as one of the top complainers in the league by 193 players. So, that is not necessarily a disrespectful comment, on the contrary, it is factually true based upon recent polls- (unless you took any that ESPN didnt know about? If so- you should let them know- they will probably pay you for them.)
2) the bills comment was a response to someone calling the buffalo bills losers- which I found to be fair game for a cheap shot- if you dont mind comparing apples to oranges, then why not throw a comment back. and again- that wasnt on this thread.
3) If you read my final comment, and added the rest of the sentence, you would notice that I added postives and negatives for both sides in both comments- but you did not include that. Yes, see above for authority behind Crosby being a complainer, and it is a true fact that he lives at marios house and as a superstar making 8.7 million a year, he may want to consider getting his own place- just an idea.
by PittsburghCaniac on Jun 3, 2009 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions
but why? he gets free rent
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by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 3, 2009 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions
good point, I wouldnt turn down free rent. And if he is saving his money unlike other professional athletes, then we wont see him on celebrity boxing in 25 years :)
by PittsburghCaniac on Jun 3, 2009 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions
although that would rake in a ton of coin due to the overwhelming hate for him around the league. tonight on celeberaty boxing, sidney crosby vs jose canseco
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by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 3, 2009 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Canseco’s not dead yet? Seems like having such an integral part in the killing of Major League Baseball would take a lot out of a guy.
-David
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by pascaldupweevil on Jun 3, 2009 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions
not really, it doesnt take much to destroy a game that has the excitment level of the world poker series
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Dom Deluise 1933-2009, Cannonball run
by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 3, 2009 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Hey Oldtime- I dont like crosby, but if you check out my prior posts, I cannot disagree with the NHL or the pens on throwning him before arriving on the ice. After a lockout season, the NHL needed a face for the league- and ya gotta respect him for that. The kids love him, he brought interest back into the game, and he got a lot of butts in seats around the league. He really helped save the NHL. But, that doesnt mean that I have to love the guy- albeit, based upon my prior sentences and my love of the NHL, I should probably eat my words.
by PittsburghCaniac on Jun 3, 2009 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions
alls im saying is a little tact goes a long way. we could all go on and on about this player or that player but in the nature of true and honest debate it betters everyone if we keep our “pet names” on our own sites. if i were to go to a caps site and call ov ovichicken i would most certinly get my internet butt handed to me.
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by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 3, 2009 1:48 AM EDT up reply actions
agreed- I should not have done that. And regarding my prior comments calling Pittsburgh bad names- I got out a little more recently (shenley park and stuff), and it really is a pretty kick a&& city- so, I would like to take this momment to give myself a little stfu. Lots of cool stuff around here- I just didnt get out much and find things. I used to love Crosby until I moved here, and now, every time I turn on the radio he is all I hear about, and not being from this city, I guess it just got a little aggitating.
by PittsburghCaniac on Jun 3, 2009 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions
no worries about bashing the burgh itself. and i think in one of my threads i adressed the bills/ atlanta brave analogy. quite frankly im fine with getting to the finals and loosing. at least the guys got there. And i can understand being overly inindated with sid. i currently live in GA and all i hear is how great hte SEC is and GO DAWGS! wtfever that means…..
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by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 3, 2009 1:55 AM EDT up reply actions
and then they get mad when i fly my WVU flag…cant for the life of me figure out why :P
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by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 3, 2009 2:13 AM EDT up reply actions
they dont consider WVU southern- kinda crazy, but I do not believe that most southerners think that the south begins below the mason-dixon line. The south really begins in southern Virginia- where sweet tea starts showing up at every doorstep- ok, now I am jonesing for some sweet tea and NC BBQ- I love the south.
by PittsburghCaniac on Jun 3, 2009 2:59 AM EDT up reply actions
and ofcourse this is the point where i appologize for blowing my top right off the bat. its not my fault, PTSD
thats my story and im sticking to it
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by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 3, 2009 1:59 AM EDT up reply actions
me too. I got a little enraged during the Canes series- I never wanted to play the pens because I knew I would hear constant Canes bashing- but, I took it like a kid and acted like a shmuck, instead of realizing that I live in a city full of die hard fans, and had I been in Raleigh, they would have been acting the same way. But, I do feel pretty crappy about the stuff I said about the Burgh- I have seen some really nice places here lately. Anyway- end of discussion- BACK TO HOCKEY TALK!!! We only have 4 games left for the season- gotta enjoy them before the offseason kicks in.
by PittsburghCaniac on Jun 3, 2009 2:07 AM EDT up reply actions
and thus why im trying to orginize a nhl09 xbox360 league here with either the player feature or a league feature
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Dom Deluise 1933-2009, Cannonball run
by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 3, 2009 2:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Go to a Pirates' game.
They’re terrible, but I’ve been to most of the ballparks on the east coast(at least the older ones), and it doesn’t get much better for a place to play and watch baseball than PNC park. And it’s a really cheap day out. Get a giant eagle card, flash it at the ticket office, and you’ve got bleacher seats for $4 apiece(I think its Wednesdays).
And check out some of the walking trails.
-David
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www.piratesmix.com.
by pascaldupweevil on Jun 3, 2009 2:08 AM EDT up reply actions
i would but i live in ga currently. really want to see PNC park bad
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by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 3, 2009 2:12 AM EDT up reply actions
ur missing out- I cannot believe that such a crappy baseball team plays in probably the nicest, best city placed baseball stadium in the entire country- after going there (and I have been to about five other MLB stadiums)- I realized what an atrocity it is that the Pirates owners don’t field a decent team- this city (SPORT FANATICS!!!) would hop behind them in a second if the ponied up some money and became competitive. Until then, cheap seats, great view, and primantis.
by PittsburghCaniac on Jun 3, 2009 2:18 AM EDT up reply actions
the pirates are trying to build the org the right way. the problem is that revenue sharing isnt helping as much as some of the other owners predicted. cant pay the guys cant hold the team. i would much rather see them be a 500 ball club and stay then be a playoff contender and loose money every year and be forced to relocate
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Dom Deluise 1933-2009, Cannonball run
by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 3, 2009 2:22 AM EDT up reply actions
and with that my shift at work is over and its time for me to pull chocks and go home.
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Dom Deluise 1933-2009, Cannonball run
by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 3, 2009 2:23 AM EDT up reply actions
that is one of the reasons why I dont enjoy MLB but LOVE the NHL- the cap in the NHL (for most teams other than Phoenix) has created parity.
by PittsburghCaniac on Jun 3, 2009 3:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Good to know about the Giant Eagle card pass. I have been to a pirates game- didnt watch the game- ate primantis and looked at the picture-perfect view of the city, got some sun, talked to a bunch of nice fans, and had a great time in the park- ya dont go there to watch baseball :) PNC is probably the nicest baseball stadium that I have ever been to.
by PittsburghCaniac on Jun 3, 2009 2:13 AM EDT up reply actions
He has his own place. It’s in Nova Scotia, though, so it’s a bit of a commute.
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8.7+8.7=17.4
-David
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by pascaldupweevil on Jun 3, 2009 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Sorry- I added in Crosbys rent to Mario by accident- 17.4 mil it is minus the tree house.
by PittsburghCaniac on Jun 3, 2009 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions
I want to bet that the CrosCave is bigger than any house I will ever live in- any takers?
by PittsburghCaniac on Jun 3, 2009 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions
The basement is actually a wine cellar. I’d love to live in the Lemieux’s basement.
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so do you want to take up my bet that the croscave is bigger than any house that I will ever live in? PLEASE????
(Given that info- If I ever made it to that basement- you would never find me again.)
by PittsburghCaniac on Jun 3, 2009 2:09 AM EDT up reply actions
I’ll live in Lemieux’s basement, and be a healthy scratch for 30K/year. It’s a great deal.
-David
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by pascaldupweevil on Jun 3, 2009 2:10 AM EDT up reply actions
eh with taxes and such i need atleast 70k, need to make a houes payment
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Dom Deluise 1933-2009, Cannonball run
by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 3, 2009 2:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Well depending on your intake of wine, you may have to redefine ‘healthy’
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The heck with 30k a year and health- you had me at “wine basement.”
by PittsburghCaniac on Jun 3, 2009 2:30 AM EDT up reply actions
If you want to get into math- please know your team better- 8.7 + 3,834,200. Malkins cap hit of 8.7 doesnt even kick into next year. So I guess we are both wrong.
by PittsburghCaniac on Jun 3, 2009 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Whatever.
These two know which team they want to play for, and I’m glad for that. It’s good for Pittsburgh, and it’s good for the NHL. It’s a team game.
-David
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by pascaldupweevil on Jun 3, 2009 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions
I will hold my tongue on this comment.
by PittsburghCaniac on Jun 3, 2009 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions
k.
-David
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www.piratesmix.com.
by pascaldupweevil on Jun 3, 2009 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions
uhhh
Malkin has 5 points in 3 games. Crosby played what I felt was his worst game of the series tonight, but he has created tons of golden opportunities so far – just needs to finish them!
I honestly feel that the Pens played better in the first two games than they did tonight (save Fleury, definitely). You lose in your best two games of the series and win in your worst – that is an even series.
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Yeah I’m not overly impressed by Sid’s play so far and he’s getting those chances. But it’s comforting to think he can’t go the whole series on a drought. He’ll get his in G4.
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I agree
I felt Sid played pretty well in the first two games, but certainly not at the level he was at previous (a lot of that has to do with the opposition, obviously). Tonight, a little too much dancing around and a few too many cute passes. He needs to be stronger on the puck and attack.
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perhaps he’ll break the “first goals” record with his seventh in game 4.
-David
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by pascaldupweevil on Jun 3, 2009 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions
No way possible. I bet he scores 3-5 goals before the end of the series. The wings can hold him back for a little bit, but it is only a matter of time before he breaks out. He is the type of player that you know will score- but would like to keep in check. Score he will, it is only a matter of time. I have been preaching all year how Malkin is the better player, but now feel that Crosby is. Sometimes he just needs to go at the net instead of trying to make a pass to his teamates- I dont know why he does that.
by PittsburghCaniac on Jun 3, 2009 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions
i think he dishes it off because most of the time its a very high % play. if that pass early in the game connects with the guy comming down the slot, ozie has no chance on it.
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by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 3, 2009 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions
I think it was Guerin
And yes, could have been golden. Someone tell Crosby it’s ok to look where you’re passing sometimes.
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by pascaldupweevil on Jun 3, 2009 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions
true- but as a highly skilled player- a lot of times I think he has a better shot- that guy could slap a puck onto a penny from 50 feet away- sometimes I wonder- maybe it is because he is captain and doesnt want to be like OV, but he should take the shot because he is the most apt to score.
by PittsburghCaniac on Jun 3, 2009 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions
i would rather see him soot it low to the far post. if osgood gets his skate on it the rebound goes right to guerin. thats how i would have played that
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by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 3, 2009 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions
but ofcourse i never made it past college hockey either
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by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 3, 2009 1:51 AM EDT up reply actions
I like to call myself the NHLs worst free agent available.
by PittsburghCaniac on Jun 3, 2009 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions
lol
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by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 3, 2009 1:58 AM EDT up reply actions
agreed it is very strange
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by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 3, 2009 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions
I disagree with your disagreement...
I actually think the Penguins have outplayed the Wings in several significant stretches throughout this series. I’m not going to go so far as to say “lucky bounces” have led to a Redwings 2-1 lead, but fortune definitely plays a part in any playoff series. Chris Osgood was amazing those first two games, Fleury could have been better.
As a Wings fan though, I have to get at least this on the table. I would be lying if I said I watched a lot of Penguins hockey during the regular season, but I watched enough Redwings hockey to know that this series has been far from what this team is capable of. If I were a Penguins fan, I would be more nervous about the fact that Redwings role players have been getting the job done so far, and the cavalry may be at full strength tonight. I’m not gonna guarantee a win, but I will say that if both teams play their best I have a hard time believing the Penguins can hang.
and we've been far from our best as well
i havent seen a lot of detroit games & i do have respect for your team. but you shoulda seen MAF against the flyers and sid (who your D & goalie have done a good job shutting him down) has been far from his best. he’s has had opportunities & just didnt come through. i have a feeling this game is gonna be for all the marbles
I was gonna touch on that subject, but it’s not even worth it, thier fans think the wings are light years above anyone. I guess it never occured to them that we’re giving them a good series because…wait for it….we are indeed good and can play with them. But that’s just crazy talk, the wings are just not playing up to thier potential ya that’s it.
goaltending is another key
Aside from the bounces, goaltending has played a huge role in determining who has won each game. My basic point is that the “better” team (loosely defined as the team that carried the play) has not necessarily won the game – the team with the better “bounces” or “breaks” or whatever you want to call it and the team with the better goaltending has won.
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6 on 5 and no call? Osgood letting in two bad goals We’ll come back from this!!! GO WINGS!!!!
and lets not forget
Pittsburgh forward Chris Kunitz knew that the Penguins would have to set a physical tone at home to help the crowd get into the game. So he went out and threw five hits in each of the first two periods before finishing with 11 hits for the game. After two periods, Detroit was credited with only 12 hits, just two more than Kunitz alone in that same span.
yes kuntiz missed a golden oppertunitie but he was flying and hitting everything in red
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by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 2, 2009 11:24 PM EDT reply actions
He and Cooke both really set the tone. Both of them were flying around and leveling people.
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by Hockey Beard in SLC on Jun 2, 2009 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions
but i just cant shake the feeling that we let oz of the hook. all those chances that we could quite control….
cook, brooksie, and kunitz were making the redwings pay every single time the touched the puck. should have been doing that in games 1 and 2. hits like those slow you down a little, makes you a little more jittery…..
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by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 2, 2009 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Especially the one on Holmstrom in the first period where his head banged off the glass…he got up slow and wasn’t himself for the rest of the game.
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by Hockey Beard in SLC on Jun 3, 2009 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
prolly shoulda/coulda been boarding there. seemed like the ref were more intrested in calling the obstruction penalties rather the the ones that hurt the players
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by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 3, 2009 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions
We needed to do that
The Wings were doing it to us, we need to take control of the game back.
Sure he can score goals, but can he cook?
Cookie is already being called a dirty m’fer by wings fans. I didn’t see any dirty hits, i saw hard hits where people were slow to get up, but is that Cookies fault THEY ARE SOFF as Therrien would say
lol cookie monster loves red wing cookies NUM NUM NUM NUM
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by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 3, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Huge night for Cooke, Letang and Malkin. Also a big night of hits for Orpik. Danny B admitted the team looked a bit lost in the second but they really put themselves together in the third. I sometimes wonder what those intermission speeches are like.
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im thinking more along the lines of al pacino in any given sunday
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by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 3, 2009 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
good stuff right there
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by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 3, 2009 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions
I like to think after they went in there Geno stood up at his stall and said some encouraging things in Russian and everyone kinda shrugged and was like, “…alright?”
Or in broken English: "Did Ivan Drago back down in the face of Rocky Balboa? No! Did Stalin back down in the face of a German onslaught?
Sid: “Yes?”
Malkin: “No! He did not. And neither will we.”
Sid: “But Stalin’s not on the ice…”
Malkin: “I love my mom and dad.”
Orpik: “Works for me.”
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LOL…
I wish you could archive that or something…
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by Hockey Beard in SLC on Jun 3, 2009 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Danny B: “Listen, guys…this one’s slipping away but we know how to play our game and we can win still win this thing. Tell, ’em Geno.”
Geno: “We need…need shoot puck…for…for to have…goals…goals scoring…soup”
Danny B: “Yes! Soup, precisely!”
Team: RAWR
About a second away from ruinning my laptop!
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by Hockey Beard in SLC on Jun 3, 2009 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions
nice to see everyone back to ther old selves for atleast one night
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by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 3, 2009 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions
amazing what a win will do for a mood, eh? of course, me, I’m feeling the sharp end of the stick tonite…
c'mon
you know you want it to go 7. :)
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by pascaldupweevil on Jun 3, 2009 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions
SUPER!
:P
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by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 3, 2009 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions
rofl
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by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 3, 2009 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions
BTW
Definitely worth mentioning. The Pens had 36 hits. Orpik tallied 21 of them. Solid display fo sho.
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oh my, oprik 21 hits and kunitz had 12
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by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 3, 2009 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions
My bad. I was watching NHL Live and heard that stat. Looked at the summary and see Orpik had 5 but yes, Kunitz had 11. I don’t know where they said Orpik had 21 hits. Maybe in the series? ::scratches head::
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That would make more sense.
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by Hockey Beard in SLC on Jun 3, 2009 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah. 21 hits just seems absolutely unbelievable.
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basically its contact that forces the opposing player to alter or change course.
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by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 3, 2009 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions
or impedes his progress.
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by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 3, 2009 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah oldtime got it. And Orpik has also mentioned earlier in the season that the stat guys at Mellon are a lil bit more generous when it comes to tallying hits. It varies from arena to arena. It is what it is…
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well its not out of reach, i think we all will remember the shift in last years finals for some time to come
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by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 3, 2009 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions
carefull we have some canes fans lurking around here. they still think he should be charged with attempted murder down there
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by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 3, 2009 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions
While simultaneously thinking that Scott Walker is a saint.
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by PPP on Jun 3, 2009 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions
This interjection...
…was perfectly timed.
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by pascaldupweevil on Jun 3, 2009 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again – “The Shift” gives me a reason to wake up.
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just an absurd display of tenacity
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by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 3, 2009 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions
I love the crowd roaring with every hit too. And then after the last one watch the dude come running down the stairs to pound on the glass. That would’ve been me if I was on hand for that game.
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crunch
ding ding ding
crunch
ding ding ding
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by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 3, 2009 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Not to interrupt here
But when you say “The Shift”, I immediately think of “The Shift” as we in Philly know it. While that was a great job by Orpik, “The Shift” was a total 5 player effort, albeit against the hapless Sabres.
I still suggest a Randy Jones for Brooks Orpik, or Randy Jones for Goligoski trade. I think it works out for both theams.
by Geoff Detweiler on Jun 3, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Don’t go trying to unload Jones on us. We know what you’re up to.
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About a hit a minute for him…ya, that’s superman crazy…
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by Hockey Beard in SLC on Jun 3, 2009 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions
everyone looks around days
YEAH DO IT FOR GENO’S MOM!
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by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 3, 2009 12:32 AM EDT reply actions
Watch out, Hossa's coming for you!
he’s scored 2 apiece in game 4 of all three prior series this postseason….just sayin’
Pulling out Hossa? Wow, things must be rough in Detroit when Hossa coming to get us is the big threat.
That said watching the series I miss the big lug. Skating around so smoothly, receiving passes and getting off good shots, how is that even done?
sigh
Sure he can score goals, but can he cook?
The only thing rough around here...
… is the economy and those sweet playoff beards. Who knew the Swedes were so friggin Hairy?! With the cavalry in tact, this is just too much for your boys to handle. Hossa, Datsyuk, Zetterberg…oh my! Be afraid Pittsburgh, be very afraid!
lol, not hardley
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by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 4, 2009 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll tell you what...
…if Crosby gets off two even strength goals while Hank is on the ice, I’ll not only admit my idiocy here, but on Winging it in Motown as well. If Crosby goes without a single goal again tonight though (even strength or on the power play) you can keep coming on Winging it Motown but you have to stop complaining about the refs, its just so friggin irritating.
Deal?
Agreed, but i haven’t said anything since game 2…notice they listened to me and fixed the penalty calls in game 3:>
I'll give you that...
…and frankly I’m embarrassed the way my fellow Wings fans have been complaining all over our board and this one. It’s frustrating when your team loses, and it’s natural to look for excuses outside of their own play, but it’s rarely accurate. You guys played a good game on Tuesday, but I would still think the scoreboard was too close for comfort if I were you. It’s been a good series so far, and I’m hoping for another good game tonight, but ultimately I wanna see Hank lifting that Cup over his head at the Joe on Saturday (and I guarantee he won’t be winded then).
be glad it was 4 to 2. if the pens convert on some easy chances early os just let in 6. it was a deceveing 4-2 game
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by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 4, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Kronwall
Dude got hit a lot tonight.
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im suprised helm isnt severly concussed. he got hammered several times
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by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 3, 2009 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions
lol
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by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 3, 2009 2:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Go Pens!!!
So, I finally got back home and finished off the game just now. Awesome game. I guess I was a bit late for all the fun stuff here. This looked like the first two games in the series, but with a different result. Notice that the Pens were out shot 29-20, but still won? These are two close teams. Can’t wait until game 4! I still think the Pens have a lot more to give. It’s good that we have one win under our belt.
On a side note, I heard that damn Journey song while I was at Dodger Stadium tonight. The boys in blue were down by 4 runs in the 8th inning (the Dodgers came back in the bottom of the 8th to score 5 runs and win), when they played, “Don’t Stop Believing.” The highly annoying lyrics:
Just a small town girl, livin in a lonely world
She took the midnight train goin anywhere
Just a city boy, born and raised in south detroit
He took the midnight train goin anywhere
I thought for sure that was a bad sign. I yelled a few obscenities. No one around me understood. But it was nice getting back home and watching a Pens’ win to flush out that damn song from my head. And yes, I had way too many lucky beers tonight even though I wasn’t watching the game. I hope they played some part in making a difference.
Why. . .
would you hate on journey, all they want is a little love. Give in to the love.
I was born an hour from Detroit, my midnight train led to East Liverpool Ohio. I found somewhere worse. Took me 15 years to get out of there.
Actually I love Detroit, maybe even more than my huge love for Chicago. But Pittsburgh, now that’s a city. Downtown is 20 minutes away and the woods are 15, perfect.
Sure he can score goals, but can he cook?
Did anyone else notice Zetterberg lookin a little winded last night at the end of the game…it appears that Babcock sending him in every time Bing is on the ice is tiring him out. I think we all know Crosby’s conditioning is second to none so keep sending Zetterberg in to shadow him, eventually he’s gonna blow up, and i’m guessing it will be Thursday. Look for Bing to steal the show.
Congrats Pens on a well-played game
Great game, obviously I would have preferred a different outcome. But overall the Pens out-hustled, out-hit, and out-worked the Wings. Your breakout was insanely better as was your forecheck. It seemed like the only time the Wings were in control was when they had the puck in the offensive zone. Without question, the Wings are going to need to stay out of the box tomorrow, their PK has been pathetic.
But I’m man enough to give credit where it’s due, the Pens finally finished on their chances. Good work, should be a good one tomorrow.
the odd thing is that i think most pens fans here will state they played no where near thier top game. this is kinda wierd that they played better in games 1 and 2 and lost
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by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 3, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Its all about those “lucky” bounces we were moaning about in 1 & 2…just this time the went our way.
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by Hockey Beard in SLC on Jun 3, 2009 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I know I missed the boat on this but I had to put this out there.
The 6 on 5 was obviously a bad situation that worked in the Pens favor. But to say it was the reason the Wings lost is absurd. It did not lead to a goal, it did not lead to a penalty for either team and really in the long scheme of things all it did was keep the puck in Pittsburgh’s end for 35-40 seconds. Yes it was a bad non-call, but to think it was game altering is a bit of a stretch.
What the 6 on 5 does do however is illustrate the poor job of officiating in the finals. Both teams have been left scratching their heads and wondering what constitutes a penalty in these playoffs. It just so happened that the Pens lost a couple of games where non-calls occurred, but if it was the Pens who found a way to win that game, the Wings would have plenty to question about the officiating as well. I hope for the Pens sake that the officials can tighten up, because we saw the effectiveness of the powerplay unit last night and if it becomes a special teams series the Pens win in 7.
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here’s where I think it could have been game altering, as much as the no calls on Zetterberg in the crease could have been game altering at the joe.
That situation, the 6 on 5 occurred right after Franzen had scored to give the Red Wings 2 goals in a row. Give the Red Wings another power play, right when they have all the momentum, and the Pens are back on their heels, maybe if the Wings score there, it’s 3-1, and maybe that’s it, series over right there in the first period. Instead, the Pens come back (and again, I’m not sure of the timing, but someone at Winging it commented that Letang scored while the Pens should have been down a man) and score to tie it up.
No guarantee that the Wings score on the shoulda been power play…same as no guarantee that Malkin or Crosby scores on any penalty shot that could have been awarded for the Zetterberg play….but there’s definitely a game changing possibility, and if the Pens come back to win the series, something for Wings fans to whine about for months to come.
i agree with your take
we can play “what if” with ever thing or we can take responsibility for what our team did the rest of the game. like the pens being good enough to hit post, but not good enough to score more than a goal the other games. or the wings only gettings 3 shots on goal in the 3rd period this past game. i think both teams earned the games they won
Bush league...
I honestly can’t wait for the game tonight, if for no other reason than to quit hearing about that damned “too many men on the ice”. While I will admit that it was a horribly blown call (namely because Eaton had to skate pass to refs to get back on the bench), it was not the reason the Wings lost that game. Could it have been game altering…absolutely, but that doesn’t excuse the poor play in the 3rd period. Did I like the interference call against Erickson…no, but by rule that is interference and considering where the play happened it would have been tough for the refs to ignore. I didn’t even really care for the 1st penalty of the game against the Penguins, that was pretty ticky-tack too. All I want is for the refs to call the game as best they can, and let the teams do what they do on the ice. As much as it sucks to watch my Wings lose a game in the Finals, it happened, they got beat fair and square and we get to watch another game tonight.
If I’ve said it once, I’ve said it a thousand times…one loss doesn’t mean diddly at this point. The Wings are up 2-1 in this series without having played a good game yet, the cavalry is coming back tonight and if Draper and Datsyuk are even healthy enough to be effective this thing ends with the Wings lifting the cup to 20,000 screaming fans at the Joe on Saturday.
Please though Wings fans, lets stop posting on opponents boards with any talk about the refs. It’s just not up to our standards, and it should be left to fans of teams struggling to win a cup this decade…eh Jason?
and the pens won game 3 by playing thier worst game this post season with the exception of game 3 against the flyers.
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by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 4, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I hate the 'what ifs'
What if the Pens get a big penalty kill and build on that momentum. Who knows what would have happened?
It was a blown call, hardly the first in this series. We’ll never be able to repair the damaged space time continuum to know how it all might ave shaken out.
i might be misreading your take
if you’re saying that one non-call was responsible for us winning the game. i disagree. it had nothing to Detroit’s inability to score in the second period, despite out-chancing the pens. Or their inability to clear the puck for almost NINTY seconds on the pens PP in the 3rd, so that players got tired and couldn’t make it out to challenge ppl on the perimeter with the puck, enabling Gonchar to get off his shot. Or Detroit only being able to get 3 shots on goal in the third. furthermore, (i may take a lil flack for this) but detroit has to take LITTTLE blame on that as well (like the zetterberg hand on the puck, if we’d made a bigger deal about it maybe something woulda happened). if a single player or coach is playing attention on the bench and yells to the officials about it, its called
but if you’re saying how the officials call the game is having a big role in who wins because both teams are close, then i agreee
Dear Pens Fans,
There you go. Now shut up about it already.
Respectfully,
The NHL Officials Association
NO
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by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 3, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think we are complaining anymore…more like bitterly reminiscing..
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by Hockey Beard in SLC on Jun 3, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
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