Some Saturday Linkage

by FrankD on Jul 18, 2009 10:41 AM EDT

First off, if he haven't seen it yet, check out this incredible Stanley Cup tribute video. Throughout the playoffs you probably saw a few of the videos coming from Benstonium.com. This more or less concludes the series, but here's to hoping this isn't the last of them all together.

The NHLPA is begging players - OK, "insisting" players - to not take part in on-ice activities at Olympic camps. They're just a wee bit concerned about insurance issues

In the ongoing summer saga that is the Phoenix Coyotes, the team will potentially have a new bid coming in next week.

For those of you who through there was even a slim chance that the Penguins could land Colby Armstrong after he filed for arbitration (regardless of cap space and his desired salary), I have some discouraging news - he's staying in Atlanta.

I still don't get why people think this is an issue. It's not like Crosby would ask for money on Myspace anyway. Let's be serious here.

Better Dynasty - Penguins or Red Wings?

And on a Pensburgh-related note, contest entries have been received and will be up for public viewing and voting Monday at 8am. Poll close Tuesday at noon.

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better dynasty question is easy to answer

because the Pens don’t have a dynasty (yet?)

Gimme another cup, preferably consecutive, and sustained excellence for 5 years, and then we’ll talk. But 5 years ago, the Pens were labeled for Kansas City, and drafting some guy named Sid #1 overall.

There’s obviously the potential there, but it can’t be stated in terms of “who has the better dynasty” when, as things currently stand today, only one team has accomplishments that might qualify for the sobriquet.

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by ahtrap on Jul 19, 2009 2:52 PM EDT reply actions

If you look up dynasty in the encyclopedia it clearly states that a dynasty is a team who has beaten the Flyers more. That would be the Pens, sorry Detroit, you are in the wrong Conference.

by Phantaskippy on Jul 19, 2009 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions

4-0 in the 1997 SCF

Does that qualify? :)

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by ahtrap on Jul 19, 2009 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions

eastern conferance

they are the team to beat in the east by far. they have been for a few years now, and will continue to be that team for the years to come. ahtrap would you consider the braves of the 90’s a dynasty? dynasty or being able to be qualified as one is not and should not be based on how many league championship tropies that team brings home, rather it should be based on that teams ability to perform at a high level year in and year out. the wing are still the cream of the crop when it comes to franchise excellence in the modern era. however pittsburgh is gaining ground rapidly. it takes a lot of luck for a team to win thier perspective sports championship trophy. between injuries and bad bounces your season can be over before it begins.

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by oldtimehockey09 on Jul 19, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions

I think there are a lot of factors when choosing whether a team is a dynasty or not. First off, I guess we have to decide which of the two is the bigger factor – winning consistently over a certain period of time or winning more than one championship in that same span? I’d have to say I’ve always considered that Braves team a dynasty, single-handily destroyed by my Yankees. Perhaps this past Stanley Cup is a passing of the torch in a way. I mean, in my opinion, we won’t know for sure until another two or three seasons down the road. But the Wings met their match in 09. The Pens played them to the very last game, last shot, last five friggin seconds and proved they were ready to win. A repeat is important, if not slightly difficult. Seeing as how the Wings were the last team to win back-to-back, if Pitt does it I believe we’ll really start hearing about the dynasty comparisons.

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by FrankD on Jul 19, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions

The Wings aren’t a dynasty, just damn good and contenders on a regular basis. And this is coming from a Wings fan

by JazzyBBP on Jul 20, 2009 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions

actually, I had a decent size paragraph following what's up there

Arguing that the Wings, circa 1997-2002, might have been considered a dynasty, but the 2008 Cup shouldn’t qualify in any dynasty consideration.

Deleted it for focus’ sake, but I’d agree with Jazzy’s point there. To echo sometime oldtimer said, too….the Wings right now are still licing in an era of excellence. Even if I don’t think it’s a dynasty per se, not at this point, it’s a run of consistent excellence that I don’t think will be matched soon in the NHL unless rules regarding the salary cap change.

As for the Braves….I’ve had that argument a few times with a friend of mine who grew up in Georgia, and went to GTech (campus is in the city of Atlanta) during the late 90s/early part of this decade, during the heart of the Braves’ dominance of the NL East. I was probably more sympathetic to their claim to dynastic proportions before these argument. At this point, I lean towards the Braves having an era of excellence, having just that single championship to their credit means they fall short of any dynasty considerations.

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by ahtrap on Jul 21, 2009 2:04 AM EDT up reply actions

Nope. Who really takes Stanley Cups seriously?

All kidding aside and throwing out the word dynasty lets debate who has a better history, and to pad the argument in the Pens favor lets only measure from 1991 till now. The Pens would still lose the arguement. Pretty badly.

Although if you factor wins by revenue during the same stretch I believe the Pens win, so I’m going to declare this a clear cut win for the Pens!

by Phantaskippy on Jul 21, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions