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Greg Wysh at Puck Daddy posted up an interesting topic yesterday: ads on NHL jerseys.

If you've ever seen file photos of guys who have played or are playing hockey overseas (Janne Pesonen), then you're likely aware of the prevalence of sponsorships and ads on team jerseys.  Not to mention the ad revenue potential that comes with such endorsements.  But does this approach have a place in the NHL?

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The players know jersey ads can generate tons of dough, and the Europeans in the NHL come from places where the commercialization of the sweater is the norm.

The owners know jersey ads can generate tons of dough, and lord knows they'll squeeze out every dime if given the green light.

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Really, we're left with nothing but questions.  What is it exactly that steers the league away from dotting the jersey, shin guards and helmet with ads?  Would the commercialization turn you away from hockey? 

Soccer, easily one of the biggest sports in the world, relies heavily on huge sponsorship deals.  If a non-soccer fan sees a picture of a Manchest United jersey, it's hard to decipher the team based on the jersey.  You'd think it was just a bunch of investors running around after a ball until you look closely at the team seal.

Look at your Penguins jersey.  Right now.  See that logo down on the bottom left that says Reebok?  Is that not a sponsorship of sorts?

Some would argue that selling ad space on team jerseys turns the sport into NASCAR.  I don't buy it, but I will also say that the last thing I want to see is an ad for heart medication over a player's chest, Advil/Tylenol on his helmet and a Viagra sponsorship on his...

Frankly, and maybe I'm in the minority for saying this, but I could care less.  As long as Crosby doesn't have his visor sponsored by Fig Newtons, a la Ricky Bobby in Talladega Nights, I don't see how a player's jersey impacts things at all.  But I'm only one opinion in a blog of many.  What's your take?

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There’s something a little sad about the insidious spread of advertisement, branding, and labeling. There’s something quite sad about having to rely on the financial backing of advertisers in order to provide a good or service. This is much less sad in the world of professional sports than, say, in school curricula and textbooks.

A long series of cultural studies folks (recently Naomi Klein in No Logo) have argued that advertising and branding of bits of our lives have a pernicious effect. I’m agnostic on that point, personally, but I do see some potential for mischief: if a corporation sponsors your team, your college class, your activity, or your pants, that corporation may claim some right over how you operate your team, class, activity, or pants – what you do with them, who does what with them, etc. No sponsor advertises for any reason but self-interest, and in certain contexts, it makes sense to wonder what that self-interest is, and how it could conflict with other interests.

</professorial rambling> (I’ve done stuff on advertising in my philosophy classes for about 12 years now, so this is kinda in my bones.)

On one level, it’s a personal choice. I personally do not want Budweiser to have any rights to my class, or my pants.

It’s less clear to me why this would be a big deal in a sport that already features advertising plastered all over the boards, benches, and ice.

Aesthetically, it sucks. I still remember fondly the white boards of 1970s arenas. And those backlit ads in some rinks are distracting as hell.

by Doc Nagel on Jul 30, 2009 11:24 AM EDT reply actions  

It’s less clear to me why this would be a big deal in a sport that already features advertising plastered all over the boards, benches, and ice.

Aesthetically, it sucks. I still remember fondly the white boards of 1970s arenas. And those backlit ads in some rinks are distracting as hell.

I agree with that 100%.

As Frank touched on, players gear (specifically sticks, gloves and helmets) all are branded all over with logos of their respective companies. So it’s not like we’re not used to seeing ads on players already.

Sometimes, in person, the LED ads that stretch between the concourses will change in Washington. It is very distracting and can even slightly alter the brightness of where you’re looking if it changes from mainly black to red, etc.

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by Hooks Orpik on Jul 30, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

When I think backlit ads I automatically think Islanders. I know other teams have them but I ALWAYS notice it when the Pens play them. You’re absolutely rite – it’s annoying as all hell.

I enjoyed your philosophical, professorial rambling, so don’t refrain in the future.

And on a side note, I don’t know why I didn’t include this in the original post, but i also wanted to mention the restrictions on “extra” gear that players use. I guess it doesn’t have much a place in hockey since guys don’t wear sweatbands or anything, but a guy like Dwayne Wade who plays for the Miami Heat in the NBA was chastised for wearing a band aid under his eye because it violated NBA uniform rules. And to the best of my knowledge, any player who also chooses to wear an arm warmer, head band or wrist band has to do so in accordance with team colors.
 
Not to mention we live in a time now where practically every arena is sponsored by a huge company. The New York Mets have a patch on their arm that reads “Citi Field”on it. How does that not constitute as an ad? I think the barrier between what is passable and what violates is still a bit blurred.

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by FrankD on Jul 30, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Um…as I’ve said a few times, I was a NASCAR fan before I was a hockey fan. Not only that, I recently bought the Tony Stewart Burger King T-shirt because I look better in that blue than I do in the red Office Depot color scheme, and anyway, since it’s Tony’s, I needed it. So I can’t say anything against it at all, though I do sort of hope, just for the sake of the jerseys’ aesthetics, that it doesn’t happen. I’m okay either way, really.

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by GreenEyedLilo on Jul 30, 2009 11:44 AM EDT reply actions  

I guess that’s another point – does the team logo risk getting lost in a sea of advertisements? This could really make for a fun and interesting photoshop if you think about it…

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by FrankD on Jul 30, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe that’s your next contest! That would be half past awesome.

I had fun envisioning Crosby doing a NASCAR-esque “thank the sponsors” spiel after the game, the way drivers have to do whether they’re in Victory Lane or coming out of the infield care center after crashing in the first lap: “Well, the Qdoba/Giant Eagle/Reebok Penguins team was awesome today, but it’s a shame the day had to end like this…” (It’s even funnier when trying to envision the team’s many non-native and part-time English speakers doing it.)

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by GreenEyedLilo on Jul 31, 2009 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Big Market/Small Market

Would there have to be some sort of league-wide revenue sharing of this ad revenue? Obviously the Rangers and Islanders would have a bigger pool of big advertisers to choose from than, say, the Blue Jackets.

by John H IL on Jul 30, 2009 1:46 PM EDT reply actions  

I’ve always been a soccer fan and never thought the advertising on the jerseys was aesthetically unpleasant. But… this is probably because it almost takes place of a logo that NHL or NBA or MLB fans are used to. One big advertisement in the center of a jersey, that’s it. As for european hockey jerseys that I and everyone has seen, awful, absolute awful.If you could keep jersey advertisement to one sponsor there’s a chance you may be able to keep a jersey aesthetically pleasing. Now the question is where to put the advertisement. The only 2 places I can think is either below the logo on the front or under the numbers on the back. That would mean players would not be able to tuck their jerseys in. That means you Kris Letang. That’s my 3 cents, one advertisement on a jersey is no big deal. The entire jersey littered with advertisements is a big deal, to me at least.

by Steve In on Jul 30, 2009 1:56 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I’m not a fan of the idea. It wouldn’t be a make or break for me, but if it happened, and it filtered into retail sales of jerseys, I would never buy another NHL jersey again.

But the jersey is basically the last domain in the NHL world that doesn’t appear littered with advertising, and I hope it never does.

by iomor27 on Jul 30, 2009 3:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Ads on jerseys: My worst nightmare

I know it’s a bit silly, but ads on jerseys would really, really bum me out. (I did a post on this for more.)

I’m a soccer fan, too, but they’ve had the primary sponsor on the front for as long as I can remember (mid-80s-ish) and their team crest was never prominent, anyway.

There’s just something about the hockey jersey — I really am rooting for laundry in a lot of ways — and aesthetic mystique stuff like the Cup and team crests/colors is part of my enjoyment of this league. But I’m the type who absolutely hates logo changes (Isles fisherman of course, but also the streamlined Penguin and the Sabres logo wandering). If something is really awful, change it; but if not, allow the years of tradition to breathe and live from one generation to the next.

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by Dominik on Jul 30, 2009 4:23 PM EDT reply actions  

No overt Ads on Jerseys!

DId you guys see the European Uniforms covered in different ads? God it’s horrible. A small Reebok logo is one thing, that advertises the jersey manufacturer as do the logos on the helmets and sticks but they’re ONE ad, those Euro jerseys have multiple different colored ads and look terrible. There HAS to be a better way to raise revenue than selling player body space!

by Dutch71 on Jul 30, 2009 6:39 PM EDT reply actions  

IF done tastefully……maybe, but NOT like what they have in Europe! Some of the minor leagues have done this the right way…..think about it………That would be the ONLY way I would go for it!

by lrcaniac on Jul 30, 2009 6:41 PM EDT reply actions  

I actually stopped watching Nascar for going so overboard on the advertising.

Every damn camera shot has a sponsor now!!

by GhostWalker40 on Jul 30, 2009 7:45 PM EDT reply actions  

As a person who's lived in England...

There’s a slight bit more to the shirts than sponsors, but even they can become what the team is in some way through time.

Still, in terms of uniform, the hockey uniform is in no way as elegant as a football kit can look like. I mean, really, the guy has scotch tape covering up the helmet supplier’s logo(with some chip shop written on it no doubt), and the rest is all sorts of yellow pages in action.

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by Lavender on Jul 31, 2009 11:33 AM EDT reply actions  

the football uni is close to what I was saying about the Minors so, how about it?

by lrcaniac on Jul 31, 2009 9:29 PM EDT reply actions  

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