Who can take on Max Talbot's role?
Max Talbot's surgery was a success and he will miss the first month or two of the season. That much is certain. The big question that a lot of people tend to be pondering is this - who can fill his skates while he's recovering?
According to the Post-Gazette, Talbot's replacement will come from within:
"We've known for a while this was coming. It doesn't catch anybody by surprise. We may give one of the younger guys an opportunity or maybe [Tyler] Kennedy moves up a little bit."
Ray Shero
Post-Gaz
When you consider where the Pens are coming from financially, keeping it within the system seems like the most logical solution. It's not like the team has money to burn on a third or fourth line guy who more or less returns to purgatory when Talbot is back in the lineup.
Seth from Empty Netters touches the topic a bit, wondering if maybe an old friend may have an opportunity to return or perhaps even a WBS regular:
With Talbot sidelined, does that make re-signing Petr Sykora or some other fairly competent second-line winger a bigger priority? Or can the Penguins get by for two months plugging the gap with a guy like Dustin Jeffrey?
Seeing as how Shero suggested he wants to keep the replacement internal, I'd imagine Jeffrey stands out as the better candidate at this point than Petr Gunn. Besides, Sykora and Talbot couldn't be more polar opposites if they tried. At least with a younger guy like Jeffrey you know he's going to skate like his season is on the line. If that means logging a few extra minutes and throwing his body around then I'd imagien he'll do what it takes. Since when have the Pens called up guys from the farm that didn't play their hearts out like that?
There are big skates to fill for someone, but who will fill in for Max remains up in the air. Have anyone in mind?
[Edit] Phantaskippy is already a fan of Tyler Kennedy in the role.
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Internal full-time replacement
IMHO… I think the Pens are a stronger team with Max on 4th line… even considering his Cup performance. I’d love to see someone from WBS… Jeffery,Caputi… anyone who can not only fill-in for 1 or 2 months, but have a chance to stick on line with Geno or on line with Staal by having TK move up. I think guys like Max, Dupuis and now Rupp on the 4th line give the Pens position flexibility, to use a Tomlin-ism, for short stints filling in other positions temporarily.
by PEACEfulRuler on Jul 8, 2009 12:08 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
He would probably technically be the grinder on that line, but I really don’t think anyone on the top two lines meets the true meaning of grider.
That’s a fact. I think a lot of people are backing Jeffrey cause they think he’ll go out there and hustle on every shift. Obviously you’d expect that from any guy on the ice, but I guess people think that Jeffrey will play like he’s got something to prove – because he does.
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I think you will see him up with the team for a part of the season at least. The pens have enough depth at forward that it shouldn’t be too much of a hinderance having max out for a bit.
by Shorty055 on Jul 8, 2009 6:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I just made a fanpost last night with my pick.
Tyler Kennedy is not getting enough credit for his goal scoring and playmaking. 15 goals and 20 assists in 67 games isn’t shabby, and he’s only 22 (23 next week). That’s better scoring than Talbot, and Kennedy brings a lot of the grit and dirty work that Talbot brings.
I’m looking for a breakout year from Kennedy with this being his third season and how young he is. I think a bump up to Malkin’s line might kick that off.
The biggest thing is speed and goal scoring. Malkin needs someone who can skate with him and finish as well as pass the puck and fight for pucks, I think Kennedy can do a good job at all of those. And with Fedetenko and Malkin being bigger guys, Kennedy could fit in as a smaller player without losing presence in front of the net.
Oh man, I’m sorry I missed it. You more or less asked the exact same question. I would’ve been happy to promote to the front page too…
I did add you to the post though. Sorry bout that.
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What choice do the Pens really have? I agree Kennedy would be a good fit on Line 2 and a chance with Max out of the lineup might just make that a permanent switch. MT would be fine on any of the lines and maybe coming back be the 2nd line talent (first line on many clubs) on the 4th line… No question the fill in has to come from the Minors.
This is a non-issue
Sure, Mad Max will be out a few months, and he probably won’t find his game until sometime in December. Talbot will be missed. But he’s part of the puzzle. A piece, one might argue;) Like every year, there’s going to be a lot of line juggling in training camp, and into the first few weeks of the regular season. This will be Bylsma’s first year with the Pens in training camp, so maybe there’s additional tweaks he wants to make with his system now that he has time to implement it at his leisure. So it won’t be one player replacing Max while he’s out, but his absence opens up a roster spot which will be filled based upon the needs of the team, when those needs are determined by the Pens’ braintrust. For instance, Shero could sign a scoring winger, and pencil in Talbot for 4th line duties when he returns, and trade away Dupuis. Or make any number of other moves that are geared around filling a need. It might be best to revisit this issue closer to the end of training camp when we all get a feel for how this team is coming together. Then we can arm-chair speculate…
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Funny you mention...
It’s actually kind of the other way around.
Believe it or not, Max Talbot is one of the inspirations for making the site in the first place. (http://archimedies.blogspot.com/2009/06/bssports-je-veux-te-voir.html)
Also he (and Lori) singlehandedly made me a Pens fan this post-season.
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Didn’t totally fail.
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Shero said today in the Post Gazette that Max would be replaced internally. Don’t you people read………….?
PS – just in case you missed it, from the above post, about a paragraph in:
According to the Post-Gazette, Talbot’s replacement will come from within:
"We’ve known for a while this was coming. It doesn’t catch anybody by surprise. We may give one of the younger guys an opportunity or maybe [Tyler] Kennedy moves up a little bit." Ray Shero
Post-Gaz
All of the suggestions in the comments have been guys within the system too
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what exactly are the penguins waiting for to resign curry, lovejoy, bissonette, pesonen, wallace… they have had over a week to do this and they still havent resigned some of them.
if they ever do sign these guys they might want to try janne pesonen on that 2nd line.
I believe all those guys are RFA’s, so it gives Pitt a little extra time to work something out with them. I don’t know if you have to file paper work with the league or anything to make it a point that you’ll offer them something, but I’d imagine Pitt will get the job done. Luckily Bissonette is locked up for one more year, so we have an enforcer on call if needed.
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I guess that was part of his one-year signage. I dunno, I almost feel like Shero and Co. weren’t exactly impressed by Pesonen in the AHL. Granted it may take more than just one year for some guys to adjust to smaller rinks and such after coming from overseas, but a lot of hype surrounded him and I don’t think he came through the way the front office wanted him to.
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Pesonen did lead the team in scoring though, didn’t he? I feel like he wasn’t quite given a fair shot to gain a roster spot with the Pens, because of their depth at forward. I think another team will sign him for next year and he’ll see some NHL time.
go pens!
the only time pesonen was called up was under therriens defence first system, he was never given a fair shot and was given enforcer type ice time,for his numbers in the swedish league he deserves a fair chance under bylsma’s offensive minded system for a chance to maybe prove himself ,it would be a shame to lose him to another team, unless he wants more than hes worth to the pens
This may not be an answer for Talbot’s replacement, but does anyone else think we should try to sign Mike Zigomanis? I know we have centermen coming out the ying yang but he is a whiz on the faceoffs, and probably would come cheap as well. I was re-watching game 7, and we were still really badly beat on faceoffs.
Also, I think youngsters like Dustin Jeffery or Luca Caputi should have the chance to show what they’ve got in Max’s absence.
Marcy
Eh, for the short term I think one of the guys from the farm can handle it. The Pens more or less conceded to passing on Ziggy when they signed Craig Adams for two years. In the end I think it was the better move.
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caputi
Try Kennedy, but he played on crosbys wing and failed this season, the chemistry he has with staal and cooke shouldn’t be ruined, they are the cycle kings. Try someone new. The only ufa’s i would try would be Afinogenov and Shannahan, and that would have to be at a cheap price obviously.
Phili B
moving TK
thats not the answer either, our third line was the best in hockey, if you keep talbot on the second line that gives geno and feds the oppurtunity to do what they do best, why do you think once talbot moved to that line feds had such a productive post season because he became a guy that didnt have to get the puck in the corners first and throw his body first he was thinking more offensivley then getting to the puck first, you put max on that line hes more physical and gets to the puck first to start the cycle, also he has the finishing skills and can also do the dirty work in the crease, he also provides some protection for geno b/c lets face it mad max aint scared of no one
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