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Ben Lovejoy: here to stay?

Here's an interesting scenario to consider: is Ben Lovejoy gonna stick with the Penguins for good?

After last Thursday's embarassing 7-4 loss to Philadelphia, head coach Dan Bylsma was asked about Martin Skoula, who only played 4:25 (and was on the ice for two goals against).  Bylsma said it was a coaching decision, not an injury.  Then the following game when Brooks Orpik got injured, instead of just dressing Skoula, as the Pes have done all season when there's been a defensive injury, they chose to call-up Lovejoy.

That Skoula is mired in the doghouse is a given at this point.  But has Lovejoy jumped him enough to become the full-time 7th defenseman and member of the NHL team?  After the jump, let's look at some of the factors involved.

 

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Ben Lovejoy

#6 / Defenseman / Pittsburgh Penguins

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Waivers and age

As you can see, Lovejoy is no spring chicken for an NHL prospect, as he'll be turning 26 next month -- in fact he's only 9 days younger than Maxime Talbot.  So Lovejoy would have to pass through waivers if the Penguins wanted to send him back to the minors.  Lovejoy did pass through waivers unclaimed at the end of training camp, but during that week many players were on the wire.  In mid-season, there are injuries and only a player or two a day on the waiver wire, meaning Lovejoy could be more intruiging.

Play and chances to play

Lovejoy's played the 10 games in the NHL this year, he's averaging 16:47 per game, but in this current stint he's only played 13:10 and 11:40 in the two games up.  Earlier in the season he was playing more, since there were more injuries, but the coaching staff is protecting him and only giving him minimal minutes.  However Lovejoy's plus/minus has been great and indicitive of the decisions he's made with the puck and his ability to keep play moving out of his own zone.  He'll never be an offensive dynamo at this level, but as long as he plays within his abilities he'll be fine.

Orpik is skating and likely will be back in the lineup in the next week, barring any setbacks.  Lovejoy is not going to crack the top six defensemen, so as long as there's no injuries, he's unlikely to play.  However, as we've seen, the Penguins haven't been able to keep their top six healthy.

Skoula situation

Cap space is at a premium and soon there will be 8 healthy defensemen.  If Lovejoy stays, does that mean veteran Martin Skoula's time in Pittsburgh is at its end?  Skoula is the only regular Penguin defenseman to be a minus in the plus/minus column (even if it's only a -1) and Bylsma has obviously not been happy with his play.

With all the injuries Pittsburgh's suffered this season, potentially losing Skoula or Lovejoy on waivers might be damaging if/when another batch of defensive players go down.  8 is not a happy number, it means two regulars are scratched on a nightly basis and it zaps a small bit of precious cap room.

 

It'll be up to Ray Shero and Bylsma to decide: have they seen enough good out of Lovejoy to keep him?  Are they prepared to waive either Skoula or Lovejoy?  Expect these questions to be answered as situations unfold over the next week or so.  If Lovejoy continues to play well, he very might have cracked the NHL for good.

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Not to mention that Bob Errey also opined that Lovejoy might be here to stay as well….

by The Confluence on Jan 14, 2010 12:46 PM EST reply actions  

LOL

at “26” someone is considered as not being a spring chicken. Looks like the Pens woke up and played much better against the Flames. Need to continue that up to the Olympic break and beyond…….

by CGNC on Jan 14, 2010 12:47 PM EST reply actions  

I’ve been surprised by Skoula’s play. In the past few seasons he’s seemed relatively solid, if not as good as he used to be. (Not that he was ever a consistent star defenseman by any stretch of the imagination.)

Lovejoy seems to skate well enough, has shown an aptitude for getting pucks out of the zone, and is capable of hitting (unlike Gogo).

So I say, why not? Waive Skoula.

(BTW, is anyone else sick and tired of seeing Goligoski gamely but ineffectually trying to kill penalties? I know you want speed and puck movement ability out there, but he’s just not a good penalty killer at this point.)

by Doc Nagel on Jan 14, 2010 12:50 PM EST reply actions  

Nice to see you back in the comment game a little more lately, Doc.

I remember Skoula being almost a Goligoski-like player back in Colorado when they won the Cup in 2001, I’ve been a little surprised at, frankly, how slow he moves out there. Skoula’s been decent at times, but his play has slumped of late. I say waive him as well. Lovejoy’s younger and appears to be a player on the rise, whereas Skoula definitely looks past his peak.

I don’t like seeing Goligoski out there either. I think Letang is more physical and positionally a little better in the defensive end. I’d play Letang with McKee, Eaton with Gonchar as the main PK’ers. Of course that’s not always possible if one of those four is in the penalty box or if one is gasses from a shift before the penalty

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by Hooks Orpik on Jan 14, 2010 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Waive Skoula

We also still have Engelland at WBS for call-up purposes. He played pretty well in his short stint on the big club and brings and added toughness to he d-corp.

by Ulf Murphy on Jan 14, 2010 1:46 PM EST reply actions  

Guenin has some NHL experience in a pinch too.

As long as 5 defensemen don’t all go down at the same time again, things should be fine.

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by Hooks Orpik on Jan 14, 2010 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Forgot Guenin came up, but you’re right, we have some good depth. Does anyone know the cap ramifications of waiving Skoula and keeping Lovejoy up for the remainder?

by Ulf Murphy on Jan 14, 2010 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Skoula’s $575,000
Lovejoy $500,000

I could be wrong, but I think Skoula is one-way contract (so the Pens will have to pay him $575k no matter where he is). Lovejoy earns significantly less in the minors.

Cap wise Lovejoy is barely better, the Pens might save $35-40,000 (since the year is more than half over).

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by Hooks Orpik on Jan 14, 2010 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry for hijacking the thread here, but does anyone know why Capputti seems to be in the doghouse?

by PensFan024 on Jan 14, 2010 2:06 PM EST reply actions  

Oh, and Skoula seems to be showing his age. It might be time to let him go as he cannot seem to replicate the success he had in his first few appearances this year.

by PensFan024 on Jan 14, 2010 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Caputi hasn’t played as well in his last 2 games as he did in his first 2.

Sometimes after the adreneline wears off a young player needs to adjust to the speed of the NHL game, especially when he’s playing on the 2nd line right away.

Nothing unusual or concerning. Calgary also leads the league in fighting majors, so they wanted to use Godard to counter a guy like McGratton.

I wouldn’t say Caputi’s in the doghouse, just needs time to adjust. If the Penguins were unhappy with him, they would surely send him back to the AHL. They don’t have him up here to sit and not play, but he needs to get his game up to the right level.

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by Hooks Orpik on Jan 14, 2010 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I guess your right. I just was slightly puzzled why he lost his spot on the second line and got his minutes greatly reduced for the last couple games.

by PensFan024 on Jan 14, 2010 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess he toned it down in the adrenaline department, like Hooks said. At first he had that same kind of jump and drive as Tyler kennedy when he was first called up two seasons ago, but has since kinda lost a gear. I dunno. bylsma has worked with him in the past from his WBS coaching days. I think, if anyone, he knows how to get him to up his game.

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by FrankD on Jan 14, 2010 5:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Caputi needs to add 20lbs. He hasnt played bad, but hes been getting pushed around too much. Hes great in the minors, but with the big club where most defenseman are bigger than him, hes having trouble. I really think thats why hes been out of the lineup. Hes not in the doghouse, but until he gets stronger and puts on some muscle, I dont think hes quite ready yet. He needs to at least break 200. Last I saw hes was around 184.

by genomachine-O on Jan 14, 2010 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Lovejoy on waivers
So Lovejoy would have to pass through waivers if the Penguins wanted to send him back to the minors. Lovejoy did pass through waivers unclaimed at the end of training camp, but during that week many players were on the wire.

So what happened when he came up a few months back when everyone was hurt? Did he not go through waivers then too?

by BDON911 on Jan 14, 2010 2:18 PM EST reply actions  

Lovejoy was an emergency re-call at that point, due to the injuries. Since he didn’t play 10 NHL games in that stint and was up for less than 30 days, he was able to be re-assigned to WB/S without having to clear waivers.

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by Hooks Orpik on Jan 14, 2010 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

why did he have to clear waivers at the end of camp?

by Ulf Murphy on Jan 14, 2010 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Age, # of NHL games played and how many years you’ve been a pro are the factors.

Lovejoy is 25 years old and a 3 year pro, thus he must past through waivers.

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by Hooks Orpik on Jan 14, 2010 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

No problem!

And to anyone who may be new to waivers, don’t worry a player on their entry level contract is exempt from them. There’s no chance a guy like Caputi or Tangradi will have to worry about waivers for many years to come.

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by Hooks Orpik on Jan 14, 2010 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I definitely think that the Pens should let Skoula hit waivers and not Lovejoy. As for Caputi, I think his play has still been effective and doubt he is in the doghouse yet. It is to be expected that young players take a little while to adjust.

by xaryss on Jan 14, 2010 2:19 PM EST reply actions  

I think there is a trade on the way. I think Lovejoy signed a 1-year deal prior to this season. So he also needs signed this offseason. I wouldn’t call Lovejoy and offensive Defenseman, but he is a good puck mover and certainly can chip in on the O. I don’t think the Pens would keep Letang, Gonchar, Lovejoy and Goligoski. Thats 4 offensive defenseman. Thats too many. 1 in each pairing would be ideal (acutally a luxury for any other team). I dont know who its going to be, but I wouldnt be surprised to see one of these guys moved at the deadline.

by genomachine-O on Jan 14, 2010 2:58 PM EST reply actions  

I am really interested in seeing what the deadline brings. so many teams are up against the cap wall that we may not see any trades. We are almost assuredly not seeing any blockbusters. Who the hell is going to pay to rent Kovalchuck and think they can resign him for $10mm a season. Last I heard, the cap is going down to roughly 51mm next year. One guy making 20% of payroll?? WTF?

by Ulf Murphy on Jan 14, 2010 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Last I heard, the cap is going down to roughly 51mm next year

Where did you hear that? Revenues are about the same and the cap will be plus or minus $1 million of what it is this season. That’s straight out of Bettman’s mouth a few weeks ago.

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by Hooks Orpik on Jan 14, 2010 3:42 PM EST reply actions  

I also heard the cap will probably be the anywhere from the same up to 58 million. Early predictions this year were calling for loom and doom next year for the cap. Its not going to drop tho barring even more of an economic collapse.

by genomachine-O on Jan 14, 2010 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Most of the revenue are from season tickets and most season tickets have been paid, which is why they have a pretty good idea of where the cap will be.

So even in the unfortunate (and hopefully unlikely) event of an even tougher economy, the cap for 2010-11 ought not to be drastically less.

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by Hooks Orpik on Jan 14, 2010 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

My buddy pays for next year’s Pens tix right after the season ends.

by Ulf Murphy on Jan 14, 2010 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

As far as the economy is concerned, please go to zerohedge.com if you are truly interested in what is going on. (I am not affiliated and not nearly THAT smart)

I am not a perma-bear like those guys, but things are not good, and I will not bore all with talking furhter about the economy on a hockey sight. I come here to unwind from financial data.

by Ulf Murphy on Jan 14, 2010 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

http://espn.go.com/nhl/attendance/_/sort/homePct

only 11 teams playing to full capcity. 11 teams below 90%.

Thanks to puck daddy for the link

by Ulf Murphy on Jan 14, 2010 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe my math is off. Don’t we have a $52mm cap? minus $1mm = 51

by Ulf Murphy on Jan 14, 2010 4:15 PM EST up reply actions  

SOORY FOR EGREGIOUS POSTING!!

wow was I off. $56.7 to 52?? Sorry to create bad rumors. Still, Kovalchuck is looking for 18% of total payroll??

by Ulf Murphy on Jan 14, 2010 4:17 PM EST up reply actions  

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