Bite Night: Round 2? Arron Asham accuses Matt Cooke of chomping on more than cookies
by Hooks Orpik on Jan 24, 2010 8:31 PM EST
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Kudos to Puck Daddy's Sean Leahy who got this from Arron Asham's post game comments:
"There was a scrum, I grabbed him. There were two guys on Harts and my glove got tangled in his mouth and he bit me, so I lost it.
It’s not bad, but he’s a gutless guy. I have no respect for him at all. I lined up against him and asked him to fight and he didn’t want to. If you go and bite someone … I just have no use for him.
He does his job well. He’s an agitator. He’s garbage to me and I have no respect for him at all.
You should have a little more honor than that. Usually if you bite somebody you stick up for yourself and you fight the guy. Not this guy, he’s chicken and I have no respect for him. He plays the game hard and I respect him for that, but he yaps, he’s a dirty player. At least a guy like (Sean) Avery fights. This guy is just chicken (bleep) and I hate him.
It would have been better if he dropped the gloves with me, but he’s got no stones."
We all remember the brouhaha from earlier in the season when Philly's Scott Hartnell "allegedly" bit the hand of the Penguins' Kris Letang.
Also for Pittsburgh, it was a good thing that Cooke didn't fight, as he went on to score the game winning goal on the power play later in the third, shortly after the scrum with Asham.
As for the alleged incident, if a bite takes place my stance is the same as when Letang's finger was bleeding: the NHL should investigate and look to take disciplinary measures to send the obvious message that this type of behavior is not tolerated amongst people older than 3 years of age.
Being as the NHL took no action against Hartnell, I would expect likely the same fate for Cooke from the league, but tempers will definitely be flaring again the next time Pittsburgh and Philly meets (which will be March 27th in Pittsburgh).
UPDATE: After the jump, the Youtube video of the incident, from special contributor GhostWalker40.
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Cooke should say: “hey I have like 5 teeth, how does he think it was me?”
"I'm glad I got drafted first, because no one remembers number two." -- Alexandre Daigle
by Hooks Orpik on Jan 24, 2010 8:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
hah no kiddin. I’m actually curious about what the guys over at BSH have to say. A good majority of Flyers fans called out Letang for complaining about the Hartnell incident. I’m interested to see how it goes over when the tables are turned.
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That it’s a disgrace the coward Cooke never fought to even things up!
(Nevermind the fact that Hartnell hasn’t dropped the gloves against a Penguin to answer the bell for his bite)
"I'm glad I got drafted first, because no one remembers number two." -- Alexandre Daigle
Cooke knew what he was doing. He normally does, when he’s not the one taking stupid penalties at least. Even Asham gives him credit for being good at what he does, even if he does hate him.
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The Flyers didn’t complain about it, did they? What Asham said wasn’t complaining about it, it was a statement. Cooke refused to answer the bell as expected under the code. There has been a lot of talk about honor and Cooke showed none. I don’t recall Laviolette standing at the bench holding Asham’s hand waiting for a ref to come over and ask for punishment? Asham didn’t do a post game interview with his hand in bandages looking pale as if he was recovering from some major trauma? That is the only thing that was insulting on the part of Letang and Bylsma. Other than that, stuff happens and if you are going to get you hands in someone’s face in a scrum look out for the digits because there is no rules in a pile up that I am aware of.
by M from Pdaddy on Jan 25, 2010 8:59 AM EST up reply actions
Hey M…wwwaaahhhhh. Yea Asham sure showed a lot of respect punching a defenseless Cooke in the back of the head. I’m not defending what Cooke does, but get over it.
by genomachine-O on Jan 25, 2010 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
I didn't see a bite, so it didn't happen
by GhostWalker40 on Jan 24, 2010 8:49 PM EST up reply actions
Updated the post to put this in for evidence.
"I'm glad I got drafted first, because no one remembers number two." -- Alexandre Daigle
You know what's gutless?
Punching a guy in the back of the head while he’s tangled up and engaged with another guy. I’d personally rather get bit on the finger (with a glove still on) then get pummeled in the back of the head. -oh and that’s even if he got bit.
Just like 71 did to Hartnell in that scrum in the first place. Village pillaging ogre!
by M from Pdaddy on Jan 25, 2010 9:01 AM EST up reply actions
I can see how anything is possible in a scrum like that, but I’m not admitting Cooke did it because really, how can anyone tell? But why didn’t Asham try to get that call out of the ref at the time? Letang came up from his scrum with Hartnell with a hand covered in blood. Bite or not, it’s a bit more believable than a guy complaining about it after the game.
This is all becoming one big joke though. Seriously.
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I’m getting a kick out of it because I bet it’s going to backfire on Assam, er Asham
by GhostWalker40 on Jan 24, 2010 9:00 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks for posting up the video.
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by GreenEyedLilo on Jan 24, 2010 9:11 PM EST up reply actions
Nom nom nom...
I don’t see it. There was a huge pile of bodies and a bit at the end about how Asham was checking his hand for possible damage in the penalty box, but that could quite easily be from punching a helmet or somebody’s knee on top of it. It could’ve happened, but…when Hartnell bit Letang, Letang had this “what the hell?” look on his face and blood on his hand. I saw nothing like that here. I’m not really sure what Asham’s trying to accomplish here, and I don’t think I care to find out.
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by GreenEyedLilo on Jan 24, 2010 9:10 PM EST up reply actions
Asham was shaking his hand in the box and quite furious.
I think there’s little doubt he bit Asham, just as there’s little doubt Hartnell bit Letang.
"I'm glad I got drafted first, because no one remembers number two." -- Alexandre Daigle
by Hooks Orpik on Jan 24, 2010 9:13 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I don’t put much of anything past Cooke. This is just weird, though.
"Darling, you say Brooks Orpik 'checked' that guy. He did not 'get under him and put him into the wall'."--Beloved to me, Winter 2007
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by GreenEyedLilo on Jan 24, 2010 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
Definitely weird….But if I had to pick any game that a Penguin player was alleged to have bitten an opponent it would just HAVE to be against Philly, wouldn’t it?
That doesn’t seem coincidental, which is all the more reason the NHL should step in before this gets even more out of control.
"I'm glad I got drafted first, because no one remembers number two." -- Alexandre Daigle
by Hooks Orpik on Jan 24, 2010 10:19 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t think it happen.
What are the odds that Asham just happen to put his hand in Cooke mouth? You know, the same exact thing that happen to Letang. I find it very hard to believe myself
by GhostWalker40 on Jan 24, 2010 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
what about asham's line
“my glove got tangled in his mouth and he bit me”
or in other words, I shoved my glove in his mouth. A little different that Hartnell reportedly seeking out fingers to munch on. Someone puts something in my mouth, I’m biting down to get it out, that’s human nature. Now a hand just in a pile of humanity, and you seek to bite it, that pathological.
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by Doc Nagel on Jan 24, 2010 9:24 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
I hate Bettman and his stupid new rules. So a player can’t enjoy a hotdog during a game? Cmon man, that’s cruel.
by stoopidtom on Jan 24, 2010 10:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
It is very likely that Cookie got punched in the back of the head by somebody most likely Assam( AKA Asham), and as his head move forword from the punch and this dindong had hi hand in his mouth he felt his teeht but no way in went through the glove, there was no visible injury in the video. Next thing we know the cryers aare going to put a cast in his hand to make it look good. Whata bunch of weiners. So much for the Broad St bullies.
I’m gonna say no bite. From what you can see, Asham didn’t react violently (other than punching to the back of the head, but that can be attributed to Asham being Asham). When chompers got a hold of Letang’s fingers, Letang pulled his had back immediately and looked pained. Sure, video angle is not great, but he also didn’t point anything out to the ref at the time.
Are NHL players crying foul more often
It seems that players are crying more these days, about this and that, just like little kids. Specially if they loose. There was a time, that players kept incidents like this in the locker room, for next time, and then exact some sort of aproppiate punishment on the perpetrator,all on the ice, not in the media. We seem all of the sudden to have a bunch of sissy’s. For instance Tort’s complaining about Carcillo, not that I condone what he did. But any smart coach would use this as motivation for the team next time they meet Carcillo. And so goes to a bunch of others, too many to write here. What do you guys think?
Is anyone else taken aback by a Flyer brandishing the concept of honor?
Really? Why the heck would Cookie fight in this situation? To give the other team momentum? I count two fights on his dance card so far this season. When called out, he has answered. Asham doesn’t have any of this “honor” he speaks of so proudly, so why should Cookie oblige him?
This is disturbing...
Usually if you bite somebody you stick up for yourself and you fight the guy.
I am amazed that Asham claims there is a protocol for the proper response to biting.
haha good catch. I didn’t even think of that
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That was definitely something that made me read it twice the first time around. Honestly makes you wonder just how often this happens.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jan 25, 2010 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
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