Pens Squeak a Point After Dropping Lead, Lose 3-2 in OT
by FrankD on Nov 15, 2010 10:31 PM EST
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In short:
[20 minutes of nothingness]
[Zamboni]
No!
[Zamboni]
Yes!
Double yes!
No!
[Zamboni]
You have to be kidding me!
(game over)
A more elaborate recap after the jump...
Where do we start?
How about with the outcome first. Let's be honest, the Pens salvaged a point in a game that looked hopeless up until the final three minutes. Should the Pens have won? Hell yes. If we learned anything from that Boston debacle last week it's that momentum should, in theory, power a team to a win. That didn't happen tonight, but the Bruins also weren't handing chances to the Pens. Which leads me to my next point...
How many power-play chances do the Penguins need? Somehow - amazingly - six isn't enough.
But let's not be too critical here without also being somewhat commendable. The power play looked good, but not as good as Henrik Lundqvist. There were times where the Pens should've buried a goal, or two or even three but Henrik lived up to his moniker (note: not his Stanley Cup wins) to make the big saves. Looking good and actually executing are two different things, and we saw both sides of that tonight between the Pens PP unit and the Rangers' Lundqvist.
We all expected a guy like Ruslan Fedotenko to do something tonight, but who could've guessed Erik Christensen would score a goal? A garbage goal no less, but I guess that's what the Pens will give up when they can't clear the puck from the zone. And it's not like they didn't have time to do it either. When the Rangers entered the zone, Mario Lemieux could've unretired, suited up and made it out to the ice in time to clear that puck, but it just sat there, waiting for a player with failed potential to scoop it up and look like a sniper. And who gets the assist on it? None other than Tenk himself.
Marc-Andre Fleury played a strong game, stopping 22 of 25 shots. I don't have an exact number, but a good percentage of those were point-blank attempts created by openings after the defense continued to skate around like they were on fire and trying to put the flames out. Even the final goal of the game came courtesy of Zbynek Michalek failing Skating 101 after his tripped over the speed bump that is the blue line and allowed for Brandon Dubinsky and Ryan Callahan to skate in on a two-on-one.
But again, the Pens got a point. The only thing that sucks more than the Pens not getting that extra point is seeing Henrik get the win after throwing his crybaby tantrum after Matt Cooke made him look like Stephen Valiquette. And yet Rangers fans have the nerve to talk down Crosby.
HAH I say to that irony. HAH indeed.
Ironic comment of the night goes to Lindas1st after Comrie got his pads handed to him by Ryan Callahan:
Comrie on his way to a Gordie!
Ironically enough, Callahan did. Comrie finished with goose eggs across the board and 5 PIM.
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What gets to me is how we blasted Henrik twice, had the the lead & a PP going into the final minute & a half & lost to one mistake…
Frankly we bailed Lunqvist out that last penalty he took was stupid & we should have made the Rangers pay for it.
But still plenty of positives. So we’re good. Bring on the NutsNucks
Letestu for Calder! Letang for Norris! Staal for Selke!
Sid for Everything!
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Great short report frank….i know what it means to go from sheer elation to devastation in 10 minutes. If this is what philadelphia sports fans endure on a yearly basis minus the phillies….i kind of have well no…no i dont have any sympathy…your short and me not being a philly fan makes life good now.
""You saw in that fight just how tough Deryk is. I've played with him for three years in the minors, and I've seen him lose one fight. And he just doesn't win fights: He kicks the crap out of people." - Ben Lovejoy
Anyone find it unsettling that the only way comrie cracks the lineup now is when he gets a teammate sick with a cold?
""You saw in that fight just how tough Deryk is. I've played with him for three years in the minors, and I've seen him lose one fight. And he just doesn't win fights: He kicks the crap out of people." - Ben Lovejoy
This preseason made Comrie look like the cheap winger we’ve been searching for! A few weeks later and our farm team has players that look like Gretzky compared to Comrie. Oh how such a short amount of time can bring such a large change!
I want to know what Chris Borque did to get back on this team….eerily similar. They both had point blank shots playing with the Pens and just freeze.
""You saw in that fight just how tough Deryk is. I've played with him for three years in the minors, and I've seen him lose one fight. And he just doesn't win fights: He kicks the crap out of people." - Ben Lovejoy
Comrie is 10x better than Bourque. It’s pretty unfair to compare him to Bourque.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 16, 2010 6:16 PM EST up reply actions
Didn’t say borque was better…what i was getting at is how they both had/have all these point blank shots and can’t score.
""You saw in that fight just how tough Deryk is. I've played with him for three years in the minors, and I've seen him lose one fight. And he just doesn't win fights: He kicks the crap out of people." - Ben Lovejoy
Seriously, both those guys couldn’t buy a goal to save their lives…
Letestu for Calder! Letang for Norris! Staal for Selke!
Sid for Everything!
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When youmcant hit the puck in with your stick…may as well punch it in…borque never had that move
""You saw in that fight just how tough Deryk is. I've played with him for three years in the minors, and I've seen him lose one fight. And he just doesn't win fights: He kicks the crap out of people." - Ben Lovejoy
AAH! Still 10 points for that. Who the hell has that kinda reaction time?
Letestu for Calder! Letang for Norris! Staal for Selke!
Sid for Everything!
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Great short report. I’m so glad we don’t have to wait 4 days this week for another game. We need to get back on the ice right away. I don’t think we played poorly.
It was a fun game to watch. I enjoyed the elation, briefly. I could have done without the devastation. But, I honestly though Lundqvist had us beat in regulation. Turns out, we beat ourselves a bit , but not before giving ourselves a chance to win.
Stressful but fun game. Two fast teams who like to push it up ice. The 4 on 4 battles were amazing. That last goal and the one before it sucked, but we fought until the end against a team that had surrounded the goalie and switched to a bit of a trap and didn’t totally lose our cool the way we did in the past with New Jersey all season last year, and, of course, the Habs. I still see progress.
4 days? Dont we play wed. Fri. Mon?
""You saw in that fight just how tough Deryk is. I've played with him for three years in the minors, and I've seen him lose one fight. And he just doesn't win fights: He kicks the crap out of people." - Ben Lovejoy
Wait a sec… We play Thursday morning… day after right?
Letestu for Calder! Letang for Norris! Staal for Selke!
Sid for Everything!
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Play Wednesday.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 15, 2010 11:07 PM EST up reply actions
Both of us are correct… Remember, I’m from the future…
Letestu for Calder! Letang for Norris! Staal for Selke!
Sid for Everything!
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How early are the games on in singapore
""You saw in that fight just how tough Deryk is. I've played with him for three years in the minors, and I've seen him lose one fight. And he just doesn't win fights: He kicks the crap out of people." - Ben Lovejoy
13 hrs…so 8:00 am?
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 15, 2010 11:31 PM EST up reply actions
Bingo… It used to be 12 hours but daylight savings kicked in while I was away. I ended up waking an extra hour earlier for games for a bit.
Letestu for Calder! Letang for Norris! Staal for Selke!
Sid for Everything!
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Damn – when i was in california i complained about watching nfl games at 10am – my body couldnt handle watching hockey at 8
""You saw in that fight just how tough Deryk is. I've played with him for three years in the minors, and I've seen him lose one fight. And he just doesn't win fights: He kicks the crap out of people." - Ben Lovejoy
Body’s fine… It’s the midday games that kill me…
Worst thing is that 7 or 8 AM’s around the time for us to get to work so I tend to miss big chunks of the games.
Letestu for Calder! Letang for Norris! Staal for Selke!
Sid for Everything!
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May have missed it, but Su said “don’t have to wait four days.”
But given the past two weeks of oddities on the schedule, I can see how you’d mistake it.
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It was good to see that the Pens kept fighting even though for the longest time it looked like they were going to get blanked.
What is a little disturbing, and hopefully a trend that can be stopped, is by my unofficial count this is the 6th game we’ve lost this season after holding a lead. Granted, this is the new NHL which is designed almost specifically to make no lead safe, but it would still be nice if we could do a little better job of holding on when we get them. Mostly, it seems like the Pens just need to play smarter.
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by PensAreYourDaddy on Nov 15, 2010 10:54 PM EST reply actions
Holding on to a lead is crucial for the Pens right now. Our system calls for somewhat risky hockey but they need to work on prioritizing defense when the situation calls for it.
I don’t think our system calls for risky hockey at all. Just because Gogo and Letang pinch occasionally, and sometimes the pinch doesn’t work, doesn’t mean we’re anymore risky than any other team. The Penguins system is to outshoot and outpossess the other team. Not rocking Lou’s system from the mid-90’s doesn’t mean we’re risky or defensively unsound. We’ve just failed to execute and been very unlucky these first 20 or so games.
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Cari i completely agree with you – it isn’t about pinching up – it is about being quick with the puck on outlet passes that i think you are talking about and i think this “need” the guys feel to get itmup and out quickly to start a rush leads to some bad defensive zone giveaways.
""You saw in that fight just how tough Deryk is. I've played with him for three years in the minors, and I've seen him lose one fight. And he just doesn't win fights: He kicks the crap out of people." - Ben Lovejoy
My thoughts
-Well…this game was weird. It looked like it could end up being a 1-0 defensive game, but ended up being absolutely nuts.
-Lundqvist was awesome in this game. He got rattled by the Kunitz goal (not his fault) enough to give up a goal to Cooke. Other than that, he was great and even though he floundered late, he definitely kept his team in the game.
-Fleury can not be blamed for any of the goals he gave up. Two went off defenseman and on the other, he was left out to dry. He was solid tonight and, like Lundqvist kept his team in the game. Except, he kept in the game for a longer amount of time than Lundqvist…if that makes sense. He was good tonight. Leave it at that.
-I thought Sidney Crosby had an excellent game. He couldn’t extend his multi-game point streak, but that was bound to end sooner rather than later and his 6 game point streak is still intact. He was a ridiculous 25 of 32 in the face-off circle tonight (78%), made a whole bunch of crisp passes, and was a monster on the puck. He had a few good chances to score a goal but couldn’t get it by Lundqvist.
-Malkin had a pretty good game as well. He definitely wasn’t as good in the second half of the game as he was in the first half. In the first half, he was absolutely flying. Making crisp passes as well as controlling the puck. He made a bad pass to set up the Marc Staal goal, but that was really just one mistake and the goal was pretty fluky. In no way am I trying to make excuses for him, he shouldn’t of made that pass.
-Crosby: 29:45, Malkin: 27:18, and Letang: 31:41 of ice time. Those guys better get maintence days if the Pens practice tomorrow.
-For some of the flak Letang took this morning, he played a damn good defensive game tonight.
-The Pens played a good defensive game overall, but the one glaring mistake cost them the game.
-You know, just about every chance the Rangers had went in. The Pens carried the play for the overwhelming majority of the time.
-Even with his goal, Kunitz did not have a good game. He could not take a pass tonight.
-I thought Letestu quietly had a nice game. He had a few chances and he and Conner were tenacious on the puck.
-Marc Staal had an up and down game. Some great defensive plays, then two penalties, then a goal.
-The PP was hit and miss. When they looked good, boy did they look good. When they looked bad, boy did they look bad. This may not be a popular opinion, but the PP looks so much better this year than it did last season. Movement is so much more of an emphasis; when the Pens actually give a good effort, they look great. Last season, they would have the puck in the zone and they would still look terrible. This year, the only problem seems to be is effort at times and maybe the entry, but the Pens are very close to having a great PP.
-The Pens played a good game. They have a lot of positives to look at before the next game.
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Hey allie – you know i hate copying and pasting….
Spot on tonight. I think hell is freezing over because we agree on everything.
I thought comrie quietly had another bad game. I can’t stand watching a puck hop his stick or go between his skates anymore.
Thing i dont understand is why db moves geno to play with sid for a stretch in the second period. At the time he did it, it wasn’t because of pp or pk shake ups. The top two lines were flying all night and have no idea why the lines needed to be shaken up at that time. I don’t mind the two playing together but it was a good 1-2 punch and it felt like something would give.
So since i really dont have anything else to say…saw that you are in malibu…i use to hike there a lot when i lived in santa monica…i am glad to be back east but dearly miss the hikes i use to go on.
""You saw in that fight just how tough Deryk is. I've played with him for three years in the minors, and I've seen him lose one fight. And he just doesn't win fights: He kicks the crap out of people." - Ben Lovejoy
I thought comrie quietly had another bad game. I can’t stand watching a puck hop his stick or go between his skates anymore.
I loved that he fought to send a message to the coaches (even though he lost), but he had a pretty bad game. Damn, he is so slow! He’s just not fast enough for this team. It’s so frustrating for me because I’ve watched him on other teams-he’s smart, he’s got great hands, etc, etc, etc. He just doesn’t fit on this team. He could barely handle the puck tonight.
Thing i dont understand is why db moves geno to play with sid for a stretch in the second period. At the time he did it, it wasn’t because of pp or pk shake ups. The top two lines were flying all night and have no idea why the lines needed to be shaken up at that time. I don’t mind the two playing together but it was a good 1-2 punch and it felt like something would give.
I know the exact situation you’re talking about. At the time, it was still 0-0. It wasn’t the top two lines that were flying; it was Sid and Geno that were flying. He put them out there because he knew that both guys “had it” tonight and that it was going to take the monster united to beat Lundqvist. Guess what? It did (Kuni’s goal was assisted by Sid and Geno). Also, it was DB recognizing that the Pens needed to get the first goal otherwise it would be difficult to get past Lundqvist. Guess what? It was.
So since i really dont have anything else to say…saw that you are in malibu…i use to hike there a lot when i lived in santa monica…i am glad to be back east but dearly miss the hikes i use to go on.
Yeah…I love it. I’m here for college. Weather’s beautiful, but I do miss Texas. I’ll be home for Thanksgiving break. Excited for that!
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 15, 2010 11:30 PM EST up reply actions
On the kunitz goal it was the end of the powerplay in the third. There was a lot of line shakeups because of all the penalties nyr were taking. The kunitz goal was def a dirty goal. I just feel he went to it a little early.
I was out there for a year. Loved it but missed the seasons for how weird that sounds. I am not a skiier but love snow.
I also realized why you and i have so much banter….both you and my wife are cancers.
""You saw in that fight just how tough Deryk is. I've played with him for three years in the minors, and I've seen him lose one fight. And he just doesn't win fights: He kicks the crap out of people." - Ben Lovejoy
Also loved the gameplan that db had for gaborik ( wait did i just say that db made a change to his gameplan to account for a player)?
Db just drives me nuts with his line changes sometimes – would have preferred to keep the same lines in the second and go to sid and geno in the third.
""You saw in that fight just how tough Deryk is. I've played with him for three years in the minors, and I've seen him lose one fight. And he just doesn't win fights: He kicks the crap out of people." - Ben Lovejoy
Yeah his gameplan for Gabby was excellent. Tanger did a great job in particular.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 15, 2010 11:45 PM EST up reply actions
I just feel he went to it a little early.
To go with the Monser? No def not. I actually called it, if I can say so myself. If anything, DB was predictable, but that’s coming from someone who watches 82 games a year plus playoffs. On the opposite end of the spectrum, it shows that DB is in tune with his players. He recognized that Sid and Geno were on and put them together because he knew that the 2nd goal was important. Nothing wrong with that to me. In fact, I thought it was a great move; they had a few great shifts.
I don’t know snow. The only time we ever got it in TX, where the snow actually didn’t melt before it hit the ground, was on Christmas eve and morning when I was 12. It was an awesome Christmas….best ever.
both you and my wife are cancers.
Oh boy…hope you’re joking. I don’t really believe in that shit,
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 15, 2010 11:44 PM EST up reply actions
the 1st goal was important.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 15, 2010 11:46 PM EST up reply actions
With all the ahl games i have been to….i felt it coming. You play about 70 to 30% with shots and zone time and then that happens. A fluke bounce and then you are playing from behind.
I can honestly say that the only teams better than the pens right now in my mind are boston, washington, and maybe philly. We had bostom dead to rights and then throw up an awful third by our d. Washington feels the same as every year except neuvirth might have potential. Still a rookie though. And the flyers…well when it is crunch time they have a tough time beating the pens. This team is fourth or fifth in the conference right now being neck and neck with tampa.
""You saw in that fight just how tough Deryk is. I've played with him for three years in the minors, and I've seen him lose one fight. And he just doesn't win fights: He kicks the crap out of people." - Ben Lovejoy
I dont believe in it much either but yeah she is
""You saw in that fight just how tough Deryk is. I've played with him for three years in the minors, and I've seen him lose one fight. And he just doesn't win fights: He kicks the crap out of people." - Ben Lovejoy
Oh lol…I meant I hoped you were joking about our “connection.” I wasn’t questioning whether or not your wife is a cancer.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 15, 2010 11:53 PM EST up reply actions
Hahahaha – its late
""You saw in that fight just how tough Deryk is. I've played with him for three years in the minors, and I've seen him lose one fight. And he just doesn't win fights: He kicks the crap out of people." - Ben Lovejoy
Not in the Bu….
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 15, 2010 11:57 PM EST up reply actions
Bu?
""You saw in that fight just how tough Deryk is. I've played with him for three years in the minors, and I've seen him lose one fight. And he just doesn't win fights: He kicks the crap out of people." - Ben Lovejoy
Yeah at this time i would be pre-gaming so i didnt have to pay at the lounges
""You saw in that fight just how tough Deryk is. I've played with him for three years in the minors, and I've seen him lose one fight. And he just doesn't win fights: He kicks the crap out of people." - Ben Lovejoy
Wait…what?
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 16, 2010 12:00 AM EST up reply actions
I would pre-game and drink beer at home and then go to the martini/cocktail lounges
""You saw in that fight just how tough Deryk is. I've played with him for three years in the minors, and I've seen him lose one fight. And he just doesn't win fights: He kicks the crap out of people." - Ben Lovejoy
Nice…sounds good to me!
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 16, 2010 12:05 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah i have had the gameplan for two+ years now and i hear what you a saying that if the pens go down 2-0 its over…i just didnt see anything wrong with the lines at that point…malkin-cooke-asham = the way they were playing made me feel like they would get a dirty goal – it drives me nuts because i feel that can break line chemistry at times and if both lines are playing well you have around 2 minutes of attack time instead of one.
""You saw in that fight just how tough Deryk is. I've played with him for three years in the minors, and I've seen him lose one fight. And he just doesn't win fights: He kicks the crap out of people." - Ben Lovejoy
While you’re totally right, the lines were playing well, but the Monster was playing awesome. “Good” lines weren’t going to get us a goal and DB recognized that. A great shift with great players was more likely to produce a goal.
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5 more goals until Sid reaches 200. 3 more points until Geno reaches 400.
by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 15, 2010 11:55 PM EST up reply actions
But allie….i love the geno-cooke-asham connection – cant get enough of watching that line work the zone
""You saw in that fight just how tough Deryk is. I've played with him for three years in the minors, and I've seen him lose one fight. And he just doesn't win fights: He kicks the crap out of people." - Ben Lovejoy
But…NEPA…getting goals and winning is more important.
Who doesn’t love Duper back-checking with Sid? I sure love it!
Who would rather see a win, though?
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 15, 2010 11:59 PM EST up reply actions
So in that case…what does db do with staal when he comes back?
""You saw in that fight just how tough Deryk is. I've played with him for three years in the minors, and I've seen him lose one fight. And he just doesn't win fights: He kicks the crap out of people." - Ben Lovejoy
I dont see how you can put staal on the third line once he is up to game speed. And you would rather have staal taking faceoffs instead of geno. Do you put letestu-cooke-tk together and then geno-staal-asham?
""You saw in that fight just how tough Deryk is. I've played with him for three years in the minors, and I've seen him lose one fight. And he just doesn't win fights: He kicks the crap out of people." - Ben Lovejoy
Make no mistake: there is absolutely no way they remove Staal from center. He is way too valuable defensively for that.
It would be an absolute waste of talent to put him on the wing.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 16, 2010 12:09 AM EST up reply actions
I explained this a little bit last game, but I think they still put him with Geno. A guy like TAlbot or Letestu at center isn’t going to set the tone for Geno like a guy like Staal or Sid would.
The third line has great chemistry, first line looks great, and the fourth line is solid. I wouldn’t move any more than you have to.
My lines:
Duper-Sid-Kuni
Asham-Staal-Geno
TK-Letestu-Cooke
Adams-Talbot-Rupp/Conner (he’ll probably have to be sent down).
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 16, 2010 12:08 AM EST up reply actions
Hell os def freezing over because we agree on that – you just may get snow in the bu this winter
""You saw in that fight just how tough Deryk is. I've played with him for three years in the minors, and I've seen him lose one fight. And he just doesn't win fights: He kicks the crap out of people." - Ben Lovejoy
to play devils’ advocate, can you shift geno back to wing after he’s been playing so much better at center?
LETANG FOR NORRIS.
by katielynn906 on Nov 16, 2010 12:13 AM EST up reply actions
I explained this a little bit last game, but I think they still put him with Geno. A guy like TAlbot or Letestu at center isn’t going to set the tone for Geno like a guy like Staal or Sid would.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 16, 2010 12:15 AM EST up reply actions
fair point. sorry that you had to reiterate. it’ll be interesting to see what happens.
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by katielynn906 on Nov 16, 2010 12:16 AM EST up reply actions
It’s ok…let me find the more in depth explanation in the previous post-game thread.
Copy and pasting is easy.
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5 more goals until Sid reaches 200. 3 more points until Geno reaches 400.
by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 16, 2010 12:17 AM EST up reply actions
I think they slot Staal in at center with Geno.
I know that’s not a popular opinion right now, but the center position allows a player to have more of an impact on the flow of a play. A guy like Letestu or Talbot isn’t going to help set the tone for a player like Geno. We’ve all seen what Sid and Geno do together. Who’s to say that Staal and Geno wouldn’t have the same effect? We’ve seen it before.
All in all, keep Geno at center until Staal comes back, then put Staal at center with Geno and Asham on the wings.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 16, 2010 12:21 AM EST up reply actions
I am sorryni do remember you saying that
""You saw in that fight just how tough Deryk is. I've played with him for three years in the minors, and I've seen him lose one fight. And he just doesn't win fights: He kicks the crap out of people." - Ben Lovejoy
No…lol it was for Katie…but I said it in the previous post-game thread. In response to Alighieri.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 16, 2010 12:24 AM EST up reply actions
Still working on the navigation
""You saw in that fight just how tough Deryk is. I've played with him for three years in the minors, and I've seen him lose one fight. And he just doesn't win fights: He kicks the crap out of people." - Ben Lovejoy
“Up” next to “reply” is very useful.
Took me a year to figure out the letters to push to see all the new comments.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 16, 2010 12:27 AM EST up reply actions
Correct me if i am wrong but wasnt he playing wing with comrie and letestu as centers? If he was we see comrie is a bust on this team – and letestu even though he plays great that is a lot of defensive responsibility to put on a guy – plus letestu and comrie arent as good as setting up a player as staal is…how many times did staal get the puck out front to tk who eventually missed the shot last year…you put asham and geno out there..those opportunities are buried.
""You saw in that fight just how tough Deryk is. I've played with him for three years in the minors, and I've seen him lose one fight. And he just doesn't win fights: He kicks the crap out of people." - Ben Lovejoy
Yes, Geno was once playing with Testtube and Comrie as centers.
Geno and Testtube had nice chem.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 16, 2010 12:18 AM EST up reply actions
Staal-asham-geno = three guys you dont push off the puck easily. I would say staal-geno-cooke would be interesting too but i think asham has def deserved the spot on the second line
""You saw in that fight just how tough Deryk is. I've played with him for three years in the minors, and I've seen him lose one fight. And he just doesn't win fights: He kicks the crap out of people." - Ben Lovejoy
Plus i like having his right handed shot and passing ability
""You saw in that fight just how tough Deryk is. I've played with him for three years in the minors, and I've seen him lose one fight. And he just doesn't win fights: He kicks the crap out of people." - Ben Lovejoy
Yes.
He and Geno just click, so I don’t know why you’d make any changes unless they just stop having that chemistry.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 16, 2010 12:23 AM EST up reply actions
yeah, and the third line would have to slow down way too much for Asham. They’re our fastest line (with Sid’s line a close second) and I’d like to keep it that way.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 16, 2010 12:23 AM EST up reply actions
So we agree then…?
""You saw in that fight just how tough Deryk is. I've played with him for three years in the minors, and I've seen him lose one fight. And he just doesn't win fights: He kicks the crap out of people." - Ben Lovejoy
Yeah…I was just sayin’
Just reiterating your point with mine..ya know?
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 16, 2010 12:26 AM EST up reply actions
You know tho…you and i went back and forth on jeffrey and i know now exactly why db brought in conner and not jeffrey – instand by what i said about jeffrey being the best guy in wb over the last year stats wise and will be ready for the call up when he gets it….but…db wanted more speed which conner has. It might be a tryout for conner over the next few games until everyone is healthy. If he outperforms comrie…comrie is gone.
""You saw in that fight just how tough Deryk is. I've played with him for three years in the minors, and I've seen him lose one fight. And he just doesn't win fights: He kicks the crap out of people." - Ben Lovejoy
Comrie is already pretty much done, but Conner’s going to have to outplay one other guy if he wants to stay.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 16, 2010 12:17 AM EST up reply actions
Eh…flip flop him with godard.
""You saw in that fight just how tough Deryk is. I've played with him for three years in the minors, and I've seen him lose one fight. And he just doesn't win fights: He kicks the crap out of people." - Ben Lovejoy
Still not enough room.
Duper-Sid-Kuni
Asham-Staal-Geno
TK-Letestu-Cooke
Adams-Talbot-Rupp/Conner
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 16, 2010 12:19 AM EST up reply actions
This is talking about once Staal comes back. Right now, Conner’s good, I think.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 16, 2010 12:19 AM EST up reply actions
still kinda bummed about comrie not working out for us. i mean, i know why, i was just hoping so BADLY that he’d help us out a bit.
LETANG FOR NORRIS.
by katielynn906 on Nov 16, 2010 12:20 AM EST up reply actions
Me too….would have been the greatest gamble by shero maybe since he became gm from a monetary standpoint
""You saw in that fight just how tough Deryk is. I've played with him for three years in the minors, and I've seen him lose one fight. And he just doesn't win fights: He kicks the crap out of people." - Ben Lovejoy
wait, gamble from a monetary standpoint? like…came at such a steal, etc, right? cause…he didn’t come too expensively, haha.
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by katielynn906 on Nov 16, 2010 12:22 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah – 500k isnt a lot…and the reward could have been more than any of the trades he made in the past because he is at the league min
""You saw in that fight just how tough Deryk is. I've played with him for three years in the minors, and I've seen him lose one fight. And he just doesn't win fights: He kicks the crap out of people." - Ben Lovejoy
gotcha. i thought you were saying “oh my gosh, he cost so much” and i was confused.
been a long day.
LETANG FOR NORRIS.
by katielynn906 on Nov 16, 2010 12:29 AM EST up reply actions
As was I, but he just doesn’t fit with this team.
Luckily, he was signed for cheap.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 16, 2010 12:25 AM EST up reply actions
nah, i know. i just had such hopes and dreams for him.
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by katielynn906 on Nov 16, 2010 12:29 AM EST up reply actions
I feel the same way. I also feel bad for the guy because I feel like he’s trying and failing over and over. His fight tonight sort of pulled at my heart strings.
That doesn’t mean he should stay… it’s just sad to see.
Well, he obviously cares. If he didn’t, he’d be long gone by now.
A business is a business. He’s a good player. He’ll find a job somewhere else where he fits with the team better.
NYR actually might be a good fit. They’re real banged up right now.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 16, 2010 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
still kinda bummed about comrie not working out for us. i mean, i know why, i was just hoping so BADLY that he’d help us out a bit.
His play has justified your initial reaction to the news that we had signed him, IIRC.
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by PensAreYourDaddy on Nov 16, 2010 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
bahahaha, i know, and i knew you’d bring it up. that reaction was more of my knee jerk reaction. later, after i chilled the hell out, i did really hope he’d work out for us.
apparently, that advice about trusting your gut is pretty dead on.
LETANG FOR NORRIS.
by katielynn906 on Nov 16, 2010 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
Defeat Snatched from the Jaws of Victory
this team just finds a way
boo!
sorry. still don’t see the heart/juju/chemistry/mojo — whatever PAYD calls it.
that is more troubling than the results (w/c are troubling in their own right)
If they don’t have any of those things, then what got them the 2-1 lead? Luck?
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by PensAreYourDaddy on Nov 15, 2010 11:22 PM EST up reply actions
Mhmmm this.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 15, 2010 11:33 PM EST up reply actions
sooner or latyer luck runs out...
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by PensFanInDenver on Nov 16, 2010 9:30 AM EST up reply actions
I know LOL
I just hate the term luck.
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by PensFanInDenver on Nov 16, 2010 9:41 AM EST up reply actions
The pens had the momentum all night…they kept attacking…i think a lot of people after save after save from henrik were feeling a flukemgoal by nyr. Happens all the time. The pens showed a lot of resolve getting back into this game. They showed they can find a way to break down a team that is sitting back playing d.
""You saw in that fight just how tough Deryk is. I've played with him for three years in the minors, and I've seen him lose one fight. And he just doesn't win fights: He kicks the crap out of people." - Ben Lovejoy
I thought they played with a lot of effort, energy, and heart. But Lundqvist was stopping everything.
A team with no heart would have become demoralized after they expended so much energy in the first two periods with nothing to show for it. They kept attacking and throwing everything they had at the Rangers even though they weren’t getting rewarded, and that’s why we got 2 goals.
The problem was a few mistakes / breakdowns that we couldn’t afford. We need to work on solid defense but effort is not a problem.
you know…even though we’re havin’ a rocky start, i still feel good about this team.
go pens.
LETANG FOR NORRIS.
This team played great hockey tonight.
Rocky start was so last week.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 15, 2010 11:46 PM EST up reply actions
bummed that i missed it. =/
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by katielynn906 on Nov 15, 2010 11:48 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, it really was a great game.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 15, 2010 11:57 PM EST up reply actions
This was one of those games that even good teams suffer from time to time during a season. It’s harder to swallow here because it’s in the context of the Pens having a mediocre start to the season.
Really, besides not driving to the net and getting rebounds often enough, Pens played great tonight. This was just one of those “Shit happens” games.
I saw some rebounds but man at times it felt like henrik was either hanging on to everything or it was deflecting behind the net
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henrik has been pretty damn solid this year. no idea about the stats, but at least, with the ranger games i’ve seen, he’s been pretty damn solid. game against the caps, eh, kinda shaky, but still.
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by katielynn906 on Nov 15, 2010 11:56 PM EST up reply actions
In short:
[20 minutes of nothingness]
[Zamboni]
No!
[Zamboni]
Yes!
Double yes!
No!
[Zamboni]
You have to be kidding me!
(game over)
This is probably the best recap I’ve seen on Pensburgh since I’ve been here. Never have my exact feelings for the game been said so shortly and elegantly. The first period was pretty yawwwnnnn. Second Period picked it up a bit, but was disappointed by the outcome. Third Period was wild the last couple of minutes on an emotional roller coaster. OT as exciting and looked like Pens were going to dominate, and then I sadly turned off the TV and took the trash out.
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The only thing that sucks more than the Pens not getting that extra point is seeing Henrik get the win after throwing his crybaby tantrum after Matt Cooke made him look like Stephen Valiquette. And yet Rangers fans have the nerve to talk down Crosby.
Are we really comparing one moment of Lundqvist to the bajillion moments for Crosby? ;)
Seriously though, Crosby could have given some props to Lundqvist after the game. Instead of basically saying “he’s more Lucky than good”
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You're telling me that Henrik Lundqvist
isn’t a good goaltender, he’s a lucky one?
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by Joe Fortunato on Nov 16, 2010 9:17 AM EST up reply actions
He Got Lucky Last Night
That penatly against him for throwing his stick, his temper tantrum, should have been it.
Stupid turnover by Geno and they get a breakaway and tie game up.
That was lucky.
But yes, he did play well. Gotta give credit where credit is due.
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by PensFanInDenver on Nov 16, 2010 9:29 AM EST up reply actions
I agree that he got lucky that he got the win
but he isn’t a lucky goaltender. He played out of his head last night, that’s the only way a team gets a win even though power plays were 6-0 in the Penguins favor and 5-0 in the third period.
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by Joe Fortunato on Nov 16, 2010 9:38 AM EST up reply actions
Pens PP
Please, don’t remind me of how bad it is.
It is really, really bad.
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by PensFanInDenver on Nov 16, 2010 9:42 AM EST up reply actions
That's where the Rangers got lucky
still, it’s kinda astounding that we didn’t even get one.
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by Joe Fortunato on Nov 16, 2010 9:43 AM EST up reply actions
Obviously it’s a fix.
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pfft
everything with Pittsburgh is a fix. We’ve been over this.
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by Joe Fortunato on Nov 16, 2010 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
The Pens will always dominate the Rangers in powerplay opportunities because we control play and force you guy to take penalties.
Looking at ES shots alone last night, the Pens outshot the Rangers 33-23. Looking at total Corsi numbers for the game, the Pens out-attempted the Rangers 78-47. There isn’t any reason whatsoever to bring up the number of powerplays the Penguins: we were the better team last night and have been the better team for the last 4 or 5 years now.
As an aside, I know you’re a good writer and probably doing this in a little bit of jest, but I think the train for complaining that Bettman wants to the Pens to win every game left the station a while ago.
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It may have left a while ago
But it doesn’t change the fact of those phantom calls you guys were getting, the boarding on Avery that wasn’t called, and the offsides on Dupuis before he gave it to Cooke for the 2nd goal. So you can still pretty much argue that the Penguins are obviously being favored by the refs.
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by PensFanInDenver on Nov 16, 2010 6:24 PM EST up reply actions
I’ll give you this: the refereeing last night was bizarre. It’s like they put the whistles away for a while, then decided to start making calls again. Somehow, that worked in the Pens favor. If I was a Rangers fan, I would be pissed too.
However, the Avery “boarding” was an absolute dive. Go back and watch it again if you can. They showed a replay on the Pens feed. Trust me, you’ll be embarrassed for him, it was that bad. I think it was the worst attempt at a dive I’ve ever seen; Avery literally jumped into the boards.
And Dupuis wasn’t off side.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 16, 2010 6:25 PM EST up reply actions
Spot on about Avery
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by PensFanInDenver on Nov 16, 2010 6:26 PM EST up reply actions
Definitely was a dive. I say that as a Rangers fan.
by Lunkwill Fook on Nov 17, 2010 2:41 PM EST up reply actions
For what it’s worth, the Penguins have played 6.6 min/60 at 4 on 5, which is the ninth highest time in the league right now. The Penguins are getting more than their share of penalties called on them, and if you’re upset at one or two calls last night, that by no means indicates the refs are favoring the Pens. Odd calls — and bad calls at that — happen in a sport that is played this fast.
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My only issue with Rangers fans saying Crosby didn’t give Henrik props is that they are using it as a way to steer away from the fact their own goaltender threw a bitchy temper tantrum. No one here will disagree that Henrik didn’t play a great game, but will we find any Rangers fans saying their goaltender was still sobbing on the bench while Marc Staal was in the process of drying his tears?
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by FrankD on Nov 16, 2010 11:05 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I actually don't have a problem with Lundqvist's little tirade
he does them often actually. It’s akin to a player banging his stick over the crossbar when he lets a player in all alone. I like that from a player, it shows emotion, it shows that he cares and I want to see that from my players.
I think that what Ranger fans get on Crosby about is the continuous whining to the officials. I will say that he’s gotten better about it, but hey, we all look for things to hate in each other’s teams, no?
Let’s be honest here, the penalty on Callahan at the end of the third (the one where the Penguins tied the game right as it ended) was a blatant dive from Malkin. Had Avery of been the diver and a penalty called on the Penguins, Penguin fans would have been as upset as Ranger fans are about it now.
To each his own.
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by Joe Fortunato on Nov 16, 2010 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
He’s gotten better at in that he doesn’t do it anymore. Unless you’re thinking of the times where he converses with the officials, to which I refer you to the “C” on his chest.
I don’t recall the penalty. I’ll have to watch it again.
You have to admit this though: Nothing was more blatant than the dive Avery took last night. That was pathetic.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 16, 2010 1:10 PM EST up reply actions
Let's not get crazy here
Crosby is better about the Whining, but he still does it.
This is such a moot point however, that I’m going to stop arguing it. It doesn’t matter what you or I think, whatever happens will happen. Same thing with Avery.
In the end it’s just another reason for us to dislike each other.
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by Joe Fortunato on Nov 16, 2010 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
Joe, you have got to be better than this. Every great athlete in every sport always used his influence and talent to either whine at officials or try to draw favorable calls. It’s part of the frickin game!
If you’re upset because of something Crosby did when he was 18 or 19, fine, you can crucify him for that since we know the Rangers are nothing but a first class organization. But it’s ridiculous to think that Crosby is an incessant whiner because he gets a spot on sportscenter twice a year; the people who complain are just upset Crosby isn’t wearing their team’s jersey.
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Actually, he doesn’t do it anymore; I’m the one who watches all the games. Trust me, he’s over it and thank God for that.
I get your point, however, it is just a reason for the two teams to hate each other.
I’m just sayin’,man. Your old point doesn’t exist anymore.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 16, 2010 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
Correct me if I am wrong but isn’t it the responsibility of the captain of the team to talk to the officials? I don’t think anyone will disagree that Crosby whined a lot when he first came into the league. It seems to me, he talks to the officials now when he needs to which is what the captain is suppose to do. He doesn’t throw tantrums in front of the refs like “how did you blow that call.” He has a discussion with them. That’s his job. When a coach calls a ref over to discuss something, is he a whiner? Haters hate until they have a player with Crosby’s talent on their team.
""You saw in that fight just how tough Deryk is. I've played with him for three years in the minors, and I've seen him lose one fight. And he just doesn't win fights: He kicks the crap out of people." - Ben Lovejoy
This.
He really started to cut out the whining in 08-09; he only did it occasionally then. I don’t know, I guess something just clicked for him after DB came in. He just stopped doing it altogether after that.
Joe, your info is about two years old. To put it bluntly, it makes you sound like an uniformed idiot and I know you’re not that. So, I’m here to update you; he’s stopped doing it.
Your welcome for the update.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 16, 2010 6:29 PM EST up reply actions
Hey allie since i am new…what does it mean when you type: this.
""You saw in that fight just how tough Deryk is. I've played with him for three years in the minors, and I've seen him lose one fight. And he just doesn't win fights: He kicks the crap out of people." - Ben Lovejoy
it’s kinda like THIS IS IT!!!
EXACTLY!!!
COULDN’T HAVE SAID IT BETTER MYSELF!!!
AMEN!!!
etc etc etc
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Lol nice…just not in that context…new to the posts remember? Trying to catch up on the lingo…with that being said…cant believe allie said it about something i posted.
""You saw in that fight just how tough Deryk is. I've played with him for three years in the minors, and I've seen him lose one fight. And he just doesn't win fights: He kicks the crap out of people." - Ben Lovejoy
it happens… you know what they say about stopped clocks…
(it’s time to replace them)
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by PensAreYourDaddy on Nov 16, 2010 11:36 PM EST up reply actions
Bajillion?
LOL It’s time to get over the whiny thing. He hasn’t done that for years.
I would love to know when Sid said that he was more lucky than good tonight.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 16, 2010 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
Bajillion was a joke between me and Frank
surprisingly enough we happen to be friends. Or at least that weird kind of friend that you only know via the internet, and probably wouldn’t recognize on the street.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 16, 2010 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
Check the post game interview for Crosby, he played down Hank’s performance as much as possible.
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I mean, [Lundqvist] was solid. I don’t think…there was a lot of puck in and around the net that we didn’t get a handle on or we didn’t hit the side of the net. Or whatever the case was. But I don’t think he made a ton of second saves. We made some good plays to get some good quality shots. We still had out opportunities. I don’t think he took anything away from us, but just a matter of getting bounces around the net.
Wow. He has zero respect for Lundqvist, that Crosby.
He didn’t diss him whatsoever. He was talking about the way his team played more than he was talking about how King Henrik played. Jesus you Rangers fans are obsessed with Cindy, aren’t ya? Your team won, yet you continue to come on here for some reason to talk about Cindy.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 16, 2010 6:38 PM EST up reply actions
Crosby pretty much said the same thing I did after the game. Henrik played well, but looked better than he actually played because his team was playing the trap and boxing out the net, and the Pens weren’t getting to rebounds. Seems an accurate analysis of what happened to me.
Apparently Sid has to suck up to an opponent’s players as much as said opponent’s fans do or else he’s being a jerk. I recall Detroit fans whining that he didn’t suck up enough to Zetterburg and Datsyuk after we lost the ’08 cup final.
by SlayerGhaleon on Nov 16, 2010 6:47 PM EST up reply actions
I recall Detroit fans whining that he didn’t suck up enough to Zetterburg and Datsyuk after we lost the ’08 cup final.
That was the biggest load of crap from Detroit fans. Crosby says that Z and Pav were helped by Lidstrom and Rafalski. Uh, yea, that’s hockey 101. When you have two Hall of Fame defensemen behind you, any frickin forward is going to look a ton better.
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I never said he dissed him, just downplayed it. Like he didn’t make a lot of 2nd saves because he controlled his rebounds, or getting the bounces around the net. I don’t mean to bother you guys, but whenever we play you guys the refs just always piss me off and Crosby tripping Lundqvist then having the audacity to comeback to him and talk in his face.
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I think the refs constantly piss you off because you’re looking for some cause other than your team to blame for the game. The last two or three years the Penguins have done very well against the Rangers because we’re better at possession and outshoot you guys. The Rangers aren’t a very good team aside from Gaborik and Hank. I’m not trying to lay into you guys, but there’s a reason you guys didn’t make the playoffs last year and got bounced in the first round after going up 3-1 the year before. It certainly isn’t the referees.
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What does this have to do about last year or the year before? The last game was atrocious calling by the refs, I’m not blaming anyone or anything, but if you can’t see how bad the refs were, then you’re just flat out blinded by your homerism.
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“If you can’t see how biased the refs the were against my team, then you’re blinded by your homerism.” Oh the irony.
Anytime a team out-shoots and out-possesses the other like the Penguins did the Rangers, penalty calls will be very lopsided. Some of them will be bad overall, but they’re the exception.
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lol you are too much, all I’m saying is that the refs called a horrible game and literally gave you guys powerplays. I know you guys played better and had the puck more which gives us a better chance at getting penalties, but the thing is that we didn’t take penalties, the refs were calling phantom penalties.
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Wow…Rangers fans will look for anything to get on Crosby for…“He is a whiner, he cries to the refs, he chirped at Henrik, he tripped Henrik, he dissed Henrik in the post game interview…”
Unreal…Crosby cries? How about Ranger fans?
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Crosby wasn’t even looking at Henrik when the front of their skates hit each other = incidental contact
Crosby didn’t downplay Henrik = he was saying what they needed to do to beat a goaltender who was standing on his head. Get rebounds, crash the net…which is what you need to do to beat a goaltender who is playing that great..i.e. a dirty goal like Kunitz got.
Crosby is a captain he is suppose to talk to the refs…he doesn’t go at them for every call like he use to when he first came in the league. He talks to them when a captain is suppose to talk to them.
Crosby talks at Henrik….its a physical and emotional game…players chirp at each other all the time. Seriously?
The Hudson will never be low when the Pens play the Rangers because Ranger fans crying about Crosby wil fill it up in a second.
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I never said he cries at all, I know he doesn’t anymore, he’s the captain and he’s allowed to talk to refs. But tripping our star goalie then going back and talking shit to him is really unnecessary.
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He was apologizing…he wasn’t going back and talking shit.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 17, 2010 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
I was in the New Meadowlands a couple weeks ago for a football game…the Ranger fans behind me couldn’t stop talking about Crosby DURING A FOOTBALL GAME. And they hadn’t even played yet. It was hilarious. Its like they have a secret infatuation with him. You know like when you’re walking with your wife or girlfriend and to be able to look at another girl…you point at her and say “do you believe that she is wearing that” , just so you can look at her and not get caught. Where I come from, if you can’t stand someone you don’t talk about them.
""You saw in that fight just how tough Deryk is. I've played with him for three years in the minors, and I've seen him lose one fight. And he just doesn't win fights: He kicks the crap out of people." - Ben Lovejoy
Crosby tripping Lundqvist then having the audacity to comeback to him and talk in his face.
Yeah…he was apologizing.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 17, 2010 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
What makes you think he was doing something else?
Crosby isn’t really all that bad of a person. He inadvertently tripped the goaltender and went back and apologized.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 17, 2010 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t think he’s bad trust me, I just don’t see how he went back and apologized, considering their body language, the way his face looked as he was talking and how they kinda got a bit ticked off at each other, it didn’t look like an apology. I mean I wouldn’t expect a player to apologize, there really is no need to, but if he was talking shit with him then there is no need for that either.
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Was this on the Rangers feed because I went back and watched it again and they didn’t show any of this so called “shit talking.”
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 17, 2010 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah they showed after Crosby tripped him up there was a whistle very shortly after and Crosby and Hank were jawing at each other.
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Just watched it on the Rangers feed again, and all they did right after that play was show replays.
No Sid and Lundqvist, only the replay of the trip.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 18, 2010 8:54 PM EST up reply actions
If there is anyone in the league who should have their Stanley Cup ring taken away, it’s Tortorella. I can’t stand seeing that guy.
I don’t care for him at all. I don’t care for screamers in general, and he’d make me feel utterly embarrassed to be a Rangers fan had I chosen them as a team.
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by GreenEyedLilo on Nov 16, 2010 4:42 PM EST up reply actions
Thoughts
There are some fans that are happy the Pens got a point; others who feel the lead
and the game was squandered in the final two minutes.
After taking the lead and Lundqvist getting a penatly, this should have been a wrap.
But, the Rnagers found a way to win it.
Or the Pens found a way to lose it.
Problem is, so many team are playing so well: Philly, Washington, etc., does anyone think they will just roll over and coast? Into December and January?
Decide just “showing up is enough” to get a win.
The seeds are planted. The Pens need to start winning and racking up points
sooner rather then later. I would be happy to see them win 3 or 4 games in a row!
Still, a hard-fought game. Heartbreaking loss.
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by PensFanInDenver on Nov 16, 2010 9:41 AM EST reply actions
It’s like they think they are entitled. They get the lead, or retake the lead, and then it’s like “Ok, well we worked for it so now we have to win” and they stop playing or focusing so much.
I think Sid is never satisfied—even if his team leads by 1, 2, or 3 or more goals, etc.
I think he always is working it, wanting more.
Just want that aspect to rub off on everyone else.
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by PensFanInDenver on Nov 16, 2010 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
Given the team’s ability lately to lose close games, it would definitely be nice if others picked up on that as well.
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If they win the next one they’re 3-0-1 in their last 4.
Yeah, whatever.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 16, 2010 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
Ironic comment of the night goes to Lindas1st after Comrie got his pads handed to him by Ryan Callahan:
Well don’t I feel like the idiot.
Anyway, thanx Frank I needed a good slap in the face for hoping anything positive from #19.
wasn’t meant to make you feel like an idiot at all. Just highlighting the irony in it.
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I thought you were joking when you made that comment….
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 16, 2010 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah I was, but I was half-hoping that maybe the fight would wake him up and he might have a break-out game. Shame on me.
I felt the same way. I kinda liked seeing the sign of life from him.
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by GreenEyedLilo on Nov 16, 2010 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
Cup Count:
Crosby: 1
Lundqvist: 0
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Well Crosby has always had the better team.
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Ever thought that Crosby has always has had the better team more because he’s on the team rather than the players around him? Yeah, probably not.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 16, 2010 6:41 PM EST up reply actions
Well compared to the Rangers it’s not true lol. I’m not saying Crosby is better or worse than Lundqvist, they both play completely different positions so I think it’s retarded to say one is better than the other. But saying the cup count is a bit odd. I’m not saying his team carries him, obviously not, he’s just had a better team. Malkin would easily be our #1 center, but for you guys he’s either a #2 or moves to the wing. And Jordan Staal is a great 2 way player who is a good 2nd/3rd line center. Gonchar, Letang, Goligoski are all good puck moving defenseman who Crosby has played with a lot. I was just saying one thing lol, I never said he was better or anything.
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Right now, you guys have Gabby, Lundqvist, and Staal.
Right now, we have Malkin, Sid, and Flower.
Those two teams are pretty close.
Right now, at least, Sid doesn’t have the better team-he’s carrying the team on his back.
I don’t know where we’d be with Geno and Flower’s slow start without Sid.
Not to mention the struggle on D.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 17, 2010 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
You aren’t getting my point. I know Crosby makes his team better, but he also has a generally better team than us. You guys have the better team than us. We may have Gaborik, but he just got back from being out for 3 weeks, so it’s not like we’ve played with him. I understand Crosby makes his team better, but he also has a generally better team.
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My point was, right now, Crosby doesn’t have the better team.
He and Letang are just about the only ones who have performed to their full potential this season.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 17, 2010 4:52 PM EST up reply actions
I guess I understand. But even having Malkin, Martin, and Goligoski stuggle gives other guys room because teams are still defending them pretty closely.
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Have you taken a look at who our other guys are.
We love them, but they have difficulty getting the job done.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 18, 2010 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
I think you miss the point. He has the better team because he’s carrying the team most nights.
No Sid, no Stanley Cup in 09.
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by SlayerGhaleon on Nov 16, 2010 6:48 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah
And Hendrik did not win a Medal in Vancouver, either.
Sorry, I could not resist.
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by PensFanInDenver on Nov 16, 2010 6:25 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, but he won it in 2006.
Honestly, someone who think Lundqvist is better than Crosby is an idiot and really doesn’t know jack shit.
With all the crap I’ve heard from Rangers fans before about Cindy, never has one tried to argue that Henrik is better than Cindy. It’s ludicrous and quite embarrassing to see someone who considers themselves a fan is that oblivious.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 16, 2010 6:44 PM EST up reply actions
it be*
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 16, 2010 6:45 PM EST up reply actions
Whatevs. It was so four years ago.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 16, 2010 7:15 PM EST up reply actions
Whatevs.
I’m sure your 16 year old self is over it.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 16, 2010 7:21 PM EST up reply actions
ONE TEAM
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 16, 2010 7:16 PM EST up reply actions
LEAFS…NO WAIT…PENS!
NO…LEAFS.
ONE TEAM!!!!
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 16, 2010 7:26 PM EST up reply actions
Eh, I dunno.
I’ve sorta come to terms with the whole multiple-teams thing.
‘Course, I’d never do it myself.
Hey, an out is an out - unless you're Mario, in which case it's probably two outs. -UtesFan89
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wait, are you supporting me?
I’ll turn you into a semi-Leafs fan eventually, just you wait /evil smile
I miss Mats.
I sure am.
You’ve sorta grown on me, kiddo.
But no, that ain’t happening.
Hey, an out is an out - unless you're Mario, in which case it's probably two outs. -UtesFan89
Hard work always beats talent if talent doesn't work hard.
good :)
oh ooooh so our club voted to bring Luke Schenn to school :D
And I’m probably going to end up being his “bodyguard” (ie. keeping him company before/during/after the event).
I hope I don’t faint
I miss Mats.
Wait, he’s actually going to come, just because you all decided he would? I wish I had that kind of power.
That oughta be fun, though. Better make sure you do a good job of guarding him…
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Hard work always beats talent if talent doesn't work hard.
Yes, my magical powers help me with all kinds of stuff, like filling out Leafs’ player appearance forms :P
Haha I can guard him from crazy fans and puckbunnies, but the question is who will guard him from me?
I miss Mats.
Magical powers, eh? Cool.
Yeah, that’s a stumper. Wolf guarding the sheep, right?
Hey, an out is an out - unless you're Mario, in which case it's probably two outs. -UtesFan89
Hard work always beats talent if talent doesn't work hard.
yep, exactly right ;)
In other news, WE WON :D
Came back from a 3-0 deficit, and Steeg was this close to getting a hatty
I miss Mats.
I saw that! I guess it’s good that Schenn finally scored, but…I own Rinne on both of my teams. Still, yay Leafs, I guess?
/not a Leafs fan at all
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YAY LEAFS!!!!!
psht, playing the goalies that play the Leafs, tsk tsk
I’m finally happy, the Pens better not kill my mood
I miss Mats.
Hey, it’s nothing personal. I play Lundqvist yesterday, and ultimately benefitted from it, even though I didn’t like the result.
Woohoo for Leafer being happy! And yeah, I hope they win too. I’m having a bad couple of days with sports teams.
Hey, an out is an out - unless you're Mario, in which case it's probably two outs. -UtesFan89
Hard work always beats talent if talent doesn't work hard.
I play Lundqvist yesterday,
Geno? Is that you?
I don’t have a good feeling about the Nucks game :(
I miss Mats.
Ah, shattap. =P
Eh, they are a solid team. Unfortunately for them, though, they’re not the side that has Sid…
Gotta be going, though. Congrats again to the Leafs. Later!
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Neither could I.
Idk how you can do it, Leafer.
Sometimes I get asked what my 2nd fav team is and I never am able to answer.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 16, 2010 9:35 PM EST up reply actions
I never thought I’d like any other team besides the Leafs. And then Sid came along and I started watching Pens games. And the rest is history :)
I miss Mats.
I watch other teams all the time and nada.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 16, 2010 9:39 PM EST up reply actions
No…I like Datsyuk..but I don’t cheer when he scores.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 16, 2010 10:16 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I like Nash, Iginla, the other Staals, etc. but they’re not my favourite player. Sid is, but he’s not on my favourite team. I cheer when the Leafs win, I cheer when Sid scores… I don’t know how else to explain it :P
I miss Mats.
I don’t know.
I just don’t know how you can do it.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 16, 2010 10:39 PM EST up reply actions
There are players whose games i like but nothing to ever sway me….i dont know – i like to watch getzlaf, stamkos, and for some reason i liked penner before he went to hockey siberia
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C’mon allie- you never watch the flyers and go oh my – i can’t stop watching hartnell?
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No.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 16, 2010 10:48 PM EST up reply actions
His flowing locks and chewbacca beard?…no?
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His ginger head and stupid mustache?
HELL NO.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 16, 2010 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
He actually looks better there
""You saw in that fight just how tough Deryk is. I've played with him for three years in the minors, and I've seen him lose one fight. And he just doesn't win fights: He kicks the crap out of people." - Ben Lovejoy
Too bad he doesn’t look better on the ice.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 16, 2010 11:34 PM EST up reply actions
Sometimes I get asked what my 2nd fav team is and I never am able to answer.
I know, it’s hard. Is it whoever is playing the Flyers, or whoever is playing the Caps? Tough choice, and then what if they are playing each other?
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by PensAreYourDaddy on Nov 16, 2010 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
Thing is, I probably watch the Caps the most (besides the Pens, of course).
Idk they’re fun to watch, but I’m certainly not rooting for them.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 16, 2010 11:03 PM EST up reply actions
I watch them a lot too, especially since one of my brothers is a fan. For that reason, I also end up playing (as) them a lot on xbox. So, while I’m certainly not a fan, I don’t hate them nearly as much as your average Pens fan. I think I have a bigger problem with a lot of Caps fans than with the team itself. That doesn’t mean I wouldn’t enjoy watching somebody give them a proper beat down every now and then just to keep them in line.
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by PensAreYourDaddy on Nov 16, 2010 11:07 PM EST up reply actions
Your brother is a Caps fan? Yikes!
Family get togethers must be a lot of fun.
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by PensFanInDenver on Nov 16, 2010 11:28 PM EST up reply actions
He is very rare, a Caps fan you can stand to be around.
Don’t get me wrong, there are some decent folks over on JR, but I haven’t had to experience them face to face yet so I’m withholding judgment.
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by PensAreYourDaddy on Nov 16, 2010 11:39 PM EST up reply actions
plus, even if you can’t stand him, your old man would make you… =P
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by PensAreYourDaddy on Nov 16, 2010 11:51 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t hate them nearly as much as your average Pens fan.
Neither do I. And you’re right that their fans are the problem; not really the team.
It’s just a shame that their “leader” is a real douche.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 16, 2010 11:35 PM EST up reply actions
I keep saying that Ovie’s actually fun to watch. He’s just a lousy person off the ice.
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I’m just happy he’s not on my team because Sid has spoiled me so much.
When he becomes incompetent after crossing his own blue line and does something stupid-not my team, not my problem.
When he crosses the other team’s blue line and does something cool-it’s fun to watch.
I could never be a true fan of OV if I was a Caps fan. I always have a problem with something. And you know that Mr. Ovechkin would drive me NUTS with the shit he pulls out there. So being just a “fan” that watches is so much easier because I can just laugh and call him a douche when he does something stupid instead of yelling because I’ve put my heart and soul into a team that has a guy who can only properly play one side of the ice as their leader and “best player.”
This is a bad example because I really love Geno, but I don’t think I’ll ever really be happy with him because he’s so hit and miss. He either looks like the best player since Mario or he looks lazy.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 16, 2010 11:51 PM EST up reply actions
…instead of yelling because I would have put my heart and soul…
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 16, 2010 11:52 PM EST up reply actions
or he looks lazy.
Probably something we could debate all day, but looks can be deceiving at times.
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by PensAreYourDaddy on Nov 16, 2010 11:55 PM EST up reply actions
Well, what did he look like last year then?
Replace the word “lazy” with whatevs you want because it can’t be a positive word, that’s for sure.
He just doesn’t look confident half of the time. Doesn’t change the fact that I don’t think I can ever be happy with him.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 17, 2010 12:07 AM EST up reply actions
I like the direction you took….mine would be whoever is playing the flyers….but then what happens when the pens play the flyers? Can the pens be my number one and number two team? And if so is a loss to them suppose to hurt double? They actually do hurt twice as bad so i guess the pens can be number one and number two.
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this ;-)
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by PensAreYourDaddy on Nov 16, 2010 11:40 PM EST up reply actions
The Stars are my adopted West Coast team.
Although I’m being partial to to Vancouver, mostly because their fanbase is so fun to hang around on game threads.
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The TX thing makes the Stars easy, but I still wouldn’t call any team my 2nd favorite.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 16, 2010 11:36 PM EST up reply actions
for your reference
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You see Texas anywhere in there son?
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by PensAreYourDaddy on Nov 16, 2010 11:41 PM EST up reply actions
No, but my mamma reckon that it’s a little to the right there.
You and I both know the Stars ain’t in the West, but they called the West by the National Hooligan League.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 16, 2010 11:44 PM EST up reply actions
I dunno… it’s near Boise me thinks…. Must be in California.
/intentionally dense/
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by PensAreYourDaddy on Nov 16, 2010 11:52 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve family there.
Actual relatives who I actually like. Haha.
I don’t get the land divide thing. We don’t take American civics where I’m from.
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by PensAreYourDaddy on Nov 17, 2010 12:22 AM EST up reply actions
because they wanted to be cool and border Canada :)
by prairienuck on Nov 17, 2010 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
That’s what I was thinking. Straight shot to Timmy Ho’s.
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by PensAreYourDaddy on Nov 17, 2010 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
You know what...
If you just want to go ahead and bandwagon on the Pens full time after what’s going on in the Leafs game, I wouldn’t hold it against you.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 16, 2010 7:32 PM EST up reply actions
nope
still a Leafs fan :D
(I’m 870000000 times more likely to stop cheering for the Pens than the Leafs. My use of ‘87’ should probably indicate that it’s not very likely.)
I miss Mats.
Congrats on the Leafs winning tonight!!!!!! Hope they keep it up.
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by PensFanInDenver on Nov 16, 2010 11:15 PM EST up reply actions
Eww I don’t.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 16, 2010 11:37 PM EST up reply actions
Where did he go?
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by PensFanInDenver on Nov 16, 2010 8:36 PM EST up reply actions
Mats
You said you miss Mats. Where did he go?
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by PensFanInDenver on Nov 16, 2010 11:11 PM EST up reply actions
Retired.
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by PensAreYourDaddy on Nov 16, 2010 11:12 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks for claifying. Did not know that.
Another old guy retires…..LOL
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by PensFanInDenver on Nov 16, 2010 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
LOL
sorry…LOL
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 16, 2010 11:37 PM EST up reply actions
The troll will return later, if at all
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you banned him already?
darn it… I wanted a shot at him…
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How many Vezina’s has he won? What about the Hart? And how has he done in the playoffs?
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He’s been nominated for 4, and when was the last time a goalie has won the MVP? Goalies don’t win MVPs anymore unless they play historical pal. And he’s been pretty good, he’s had games where he hasn’t been great, but he’s also seemed amazing in the playoffs when we’re actually there.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 16, 2010 2:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
As I predicted, I heard all about this one at work. And as you said, Lundqvist’s tantrum will forever be a rebuttal to any “Crybaby Crosby” comments I hear from Rangers fans. I couldn’t believe that—he’d done an amazing job all night, so much I was giving him grudging respect before that.
I hated the loss, of course. Unlike the Boston Bruins Massacre, though, it was just a matter of the Penguins being OK and the DouRangers really being at their best. I was dreading work and moaning a bit, but nothing I saw from the Penguins embarrassed me (aside from the powerplay) or made me angry. I’m astonished, frankly, that the powerplay isn’t changing at all. The definition of insanity is the Penguins powerplay.
The bit at the top captured all of our feelings, I think.
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Honestly, I thought that the Pens played very well and carried the play for the overwhelming majority of the time. If it wasn’t for King Henrik, the Pens win this game easily.
The PP, I think, is actually much better this year than last. Last year, they’d get into the opponent’s zone, then stand still. This year, movement is much more of a point of emphasis. As always, though, execution is the problem. But, when they have executed, they’ve looked great.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 16, 2010 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
The point where this PP changed was when they stopped letting Go-Go be the designated rover. Leaving Go-GO at the top a little more and letting Geno and Crosby rove around has been a heck of a lot better. I don’t care if Malkin said he wanted to play the point…the drawbacks are much greater than the positives…SH goals and a guy with an accurate and hard shot, shooting from 10-15 feet further out than he usually does. You can’t tell me that exponentially his accuracy and shot power doesn’t drop. The only problem I see right now is that when Geno or Sid are on the half walls that a better pass needs to be sent to them. Sarge’s ability to set the one timer up was big (see OTT series last year). I haven’t seen that ability to put it on the tape by Tanger or Go-Go yet.
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Honestly, the only problem I see is that they’ve got Crosby as the rover.
Go back and watch the first PP last night. Sid was a beast on the half wall. He’s proven he can play there, so let him play. After that, Sid was put as the rover (which is code for “down low”) and look what happened? The PP looked lazy and gave a lackluster effort; there was zero puck control because Crosby never had the puck.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 16, 2010 6:48 PM EST up reply actions
To add
before everyone jumps on me for the first comment, let me clarify.
Ever since Sid has been moved from the half wall to the rover/down low position, the effort the PP has given has gone way down. That’s not an accident, in my mind. With Crosby, you know you’re going to get effort all the time.
In the down low/rover position, the fact of the matter is, you just don’t have the puck nearly as often as one would on the half wall. With the puck, Crosby is at his best and the effort he gives is second to none. In addition to that, I believe that your best player needs to have the puck as often as possible.
As I said earlier, I believe the PP is good. The personnel move around when they get the puck in the zone and the effort given to get 50-50 pucks is much better. The problem right now is execution. When the PP wants to execute, they look great. When they “half ass” is, however, they look like crap.
In the beginning of the year, while on the half wall, Sid (as well as Geno) was guilty of not executing. In that time, however, it’s finally clicked for him. He’s now, more than ever, giving a lot of effort on the PP. Those efforts are being wasted with him waiting or the puck to come to him in the rover position.
Put him back on the half wall and the PP will have success.
Seriously, go back and watch the first PP last night. Sid was owning from the half-wall.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 16, 2010 7:00 PM EST up reply actions
Go back and watch the first ten games when sid was on the half wall and go-go was the rover with geno on the point….what changed this pp was when they moved geno off the point. Sid works the half wall but you cant tell me that that is not geno’s spot…that is like saying let’s move stamkos from his spot. Sid has had a lot of shots from there especially during the first ten games – it is okay to say that geno does have a spot on the ice where he is better than sid. Sid is better against the boards and scored a ton of goals crashing the net and off of rebounds because of how good his hands are.
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I may be a traditionalist but i lke having two defensemen at the top. There aren’t as many breaks to the other team’s penalty killers. With the exceptiom of last night obviously. In my recollection, the only time i have seen teams use an extra forward on the pp for a prolonged basis is when their are injuries or they don’t have offenskve minded defensemen, and we have a plethora of them.
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First of all: See Ovechkin,Alexander.
And teams use forwards on the point on the PP all the time; it’s not something that’s rare and it’s not just for injured D-men either-it’s a permanent thing.
Second of all: I don’t want Geno on the point, I just want him off the half-wall. He’s looked like s*** there for more than a few games. In the beginning of the year, he and Sid were the problems, now it’s just him.
Either put him on the right side or split up the PP.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 16, 2010 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
Go back and watch the first ten games when sid was on the half wall and go-go was the rover with geno on the point….what changed this pp was when they moved geno off the point.
In the beginning of the year, while on the half wall, Sid (as well as Geno) was guilty of not executing. In that time, however, it’s finally clicked for Sid. He’s now, more than ever, giving a lot of effort on the PP. Those efforts are being wasted with him waiting or the puck to come to him in the rover position.
Sid works the half wall but you cant tell me that that is not geno’s spot…
Uhh…yeah I can. Even though it’s Geno’s “official” spot now, Sid still mans the half wall at times. Plus, he spent 3+ seasons at the half wall before the 09 playoffs. If anything, the half wall is Sid’s.
Sid has had a lot of shots from there especially during the first ten games it is okay to say that geno does have a spot on the ice where he is better than sid.
From what spot? The half-wall? I thought he did. Honestly, Sid is just more confident at the half-wall right now than Geno. It’s pretty obvious.
The problem is, although Sid can make it happen anywhere on the PP, Geno looks lost everywhere but the half wall. To me, it’s unfair to put Sid somewhere where he’s not going to have the most success in order to make a lesser player (you know it’s true) more comfortable. Either put Geno on the other side or split up the PP.
And no, Geno is not better on the half-wall than Sid. In 08-09, yeah Sid’s shot wasn’t good enough. in 09-10? Sid was getting there, but still no. Now, Sid has surpassed Geno. He’s got a better shot and he’s always been a better set-up man.
Look at what happened with Sid at the half-wall on the PP last night. A goal.
Look at what happened with Geno at the half-wall on the PP last night. A goal for the other team.
Sid is better against the boards and scored a ton of goals crashing the net and off of rebounds because of how good his hands are.
While that’s true. While he’s down low, he’s not working the boards – he’s working the side of the net. It’s on the half-wall where he really utilizes the boards.
Also, he has this move where he’s got the puck at the half-wall then charges in and crashes the net.
The one move alone has had much more success than Sid whacking at the puck at the side of the net.
It was crystal clear to me last night that Crosby is just better and more dangerous on the half wall. The PP gives much more effort with him there. With Geno, everything just slows down, which is not good. He just doesn’t have as much confidence in his shot right now. The funny thing is, that doesn’t really matter anymore because Sid has passed him in terms of shooting ability and has always been the better playmaker.
Seriously, go back and watch the first PP last night. Sid mans the half wall for the first half, the Geno for the second. It’s like night and day.
Sid-5 PP goals
Geno: 1 PP goal.
I feel some myth about Crosby being better down low during the Washington series. Green was defending him with a bum shoulder on the PK and giving him a lot of space. His name is Sidney Crosby-if you give him just a little bit of space, he’s going to burn you. After that, I don’t know if he ever scored another PP goal the whole playoffs.
My point here is, Sid needs to at least start on the half-wall and lead the charge to crash the net. With Geno, all he’s been doing is hesitating and passing. Sid actually looks competent and two dimensional on the half-wall (unlike when he started there this year).
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 16, 2010 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
I love how we agree on like 97% of things and yet when we don’t, you give me a longer response than you do to anyone else….i dont know if i should be honored or what…
But let me say this…when geno is on that half wall and even when sid is there…the set up passes are awful. I dont expect a one timer everytime but when the goalie is moving all over – that pass has to be crisp.
And btw…i dont care where geno is as long as he is not at point. And i want go-go at the blueline with tanger.
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i dont know if i should be honored or what…
Lol…I knew if I didn’t explain myself completely, you would have a bunch of other points to argue.
Guess what? It worked?
But let me say this…when geno is on that half wall and even when sid is there…the set up passes are awful. I dont expect a one timer everytime but when the goalie is moving all over – that pass has to be crisp.
Well, when they force them through a bunch of guys. A lot of times they have a lot of really great passes. What really helps the passes get there is movement. When you’ve got guys moving around on the other side, it makes it difficult for PKers to cover the passing lanes.
To add to my point, Sid is the better playmaker. I don’t think that was ever in question.
Did you see the passes he made last night from the half-wall? Beautiful. That’s why he needs to be there.
And btw…i dont care where geno is as long as he is not at point. And i want go-go at the blueline with tanger.
I don’t care as long as the PP is working through Sid. When it really and truly does look great. He really sets the tone and sorry to say, Geno just doesn’t. He makes it worse.
I think it’d be better to have Sid start at the half-wall, crash the net. Try and get a dirty goal, then go back to and try again if it doesn’t.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Nov 16, 2010 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
I dont know how much it worked – sometimes you have to pick your battles…we are both talking about what we like about the pp…i dont care how they do it as long as it works…right now…even though they looked good last night and have been getting better each game…the stats are awful…small sample size..? Maybe..but that should mean that the % should be easily shifted…we still need more work on the pp..bottom line
Btw..as far as explaining yourself completely…we are getting to know each others tendencies pretty well.
""You saw in that fight just how tough Deryk is. I've played with him for three years in the minors, and I've seen him lose one fight. And he just doesn't win fights: He kicks the crap out of people." - Ben Lovejoy
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