Rock Ovechkin!!
by mpags on Dec 30, 2010 6:01 PM EST
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If any Pens fans caught the NHL Network piece on the Winter Classic today, seeing Ovechkin say "he's (Sid) a good player but talks too much" had to get you fired up hoping the Pens light him up all game long and knock that smirk off his face while lighting up the lamp for a big victory in the Burgh. I think somebody needs to go after him the way he goes after Malkin and give him some pain. What are we waiting for? He's a bum and someone on the Pens needs to bring the pain.
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Ovi said that he thought Sid “talks too much” almost two years ago. A little over 4 months later Sid “rocked” OV by winning the Cup—there’s no need to be physical. We got him and Alex “dead wood” Semin back by embarrassing them at home in the postseason then winning the whole damn thing.
Now, the only bad thing Ovi can say about Sid is that he “scores too much.”
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Didn’t you see the last game vs the Caps when Ovi skated back around to charge Malkin?? I think most Pens fans will agree that Ovechkin needs to get hammered Burgh-style!! Get the crowd pumped up at Heinz and beat those darn Caps.
"Elvis has now left the building!!"
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Didn’t you see the last game vs the Caps when Ovi skated back around to charge Malkin??
Yeah, and I also saw Geno take a stupid retaliatory penalty after that.
The Pens need to concentrate on winning the game rather than being goons. Starting sh** with Ovi will only open the floodgates and cause the Caps to start sh** with Sid, which is the last thing we want to have Sid to deal with.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Dec 30, 2010 6:45 PM EST up reply actions
Hammering Ovie won’t win anything. Nobody will care if we finish the game with more hits, or more fights. The scoreboard is all that matters and if the Pens have a bigger number at the end, that rocks Ovie more than any hit could.
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by BobPurkey34 on Dec 30, 2010 6:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Let's get up 6-0
and then rock him? :)
Come on… nobody here can’t say they won’t be happy to see Ovechkin get rocked… obviously the game is more important and nobody should go out of their way to do it… but if he had his head down and Orpik nailed him pretty good… all of us would be pretty happy about it.
I mean, what’s the point?
Beating him (again) is more pain than anything else we could cause Ovechkin.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Dec 30, 2010 7:34 PM EST up reply actions
umm....
why put whip cream on your ice cream.. I mean, the ice cream is freaking awesome… but, the whip cream makes it a little bit better.
Why even eat it when you’re lactose intolerant? You know it’s going to come back and bite you.
The same thing here: we go after their best player, they go after ours.
So, what’s the point?
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by AllieLXXXVII on Dec 30, 2010 7:44 PM EST up reply actions
So what, Allie? DON`T hit OV just in case the Caps get mad and decide to hit Sid?
Newsflash, they are always trying to hit Sid! Why wouldn`t they?
Now, if `rock` ovechkin means get him with a dirty play, then no, we don`t need that.
But if rock him means what it should, hit that sonofagun all game long, then absolutely YES, ROCK OVECHKIN!!
PS – I think your lactose intolerance analogy was reaching, lol…I mean, if you are lactose intolerant, and you eat ice cream…it`s not going to eat you back, lol!
Of course winning the game would be the best way to bring OV the pain, but rocking him will be part and parcel with that… as opposed to two exclusive motives as you and Bob Purkey seem to be thinking.
The best way to play the game is to do all the little things, including finishing our checks on everyone, especially their skill guys…
Grind these b*tches down, remember?!!
by LastSonOfKrypton on Dec 30, 2010 8:38 PM EST up reply actions
You’re missing the point here. The whole point of this post is about targeting Ovechkin.
All, I’m saying is that we shouldn’t just go out and run Ovechkin. If it’s in the gameplan to be physical than, by all means, go ahead; but don’t just target Ovechkin because he said something mean to Sid or because he laid a clean hit on Geno. Running Ovechkin (and possibly taking yourself out of the play in the process) just because should be the least of our worries. In fact, it shouldn’t even be a worry.
PS – I think your lactose intolerance analogy was reaching, lol…I mean, if you are lactose intolerant, and you eat ice cream…it`s not going to eat you back, lol!
I was just trying to make a point.
And it won’t eat you back, but it’s not going to come out all that well, if ya know what I mean.
Grind these b*tches down, remember?!!
Exactly. The game plan. Let’s stick to it and get a win.
That doesn’t include targeting an opposing player just because his name is Ovechkin and we don’t like him very much.
And, what’s up with all the caps? Honestly, it looks terrible when you read it back.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Dec 30, 2010 9:08 PM EST up reply actions
"I was just trying to make a point."
You’re coming off as trying to be confrontational just to be confrontational.
Well, I’m not.
That was really just me trying to make a point. I wouldn’t of even of used that analogy if you hadn’t brought it up in the first place.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Dec 30, 2010 9:37 PM EST up reply actions
The point is, you and Bob seem to be saying that hitting Ovechkin is not a good idea…either cause hitting isn`t important (huh??) or that the Caps will respond in kind to Crosby (which they would anyways).
I`m not for getting away from our game, chasing OV around the ice…but Stros said:
obviously the game is more important and nobody should go out of their way to do it… but if he had his head down and Orpik nailed him pretty good… all of us would be pretty happy about it.
and you said:
I mean, what`s the point?
The point is, that is what your supposed to do! And anyone who had the chance and didn`t would have his ass glued to the bench, guaranteed.
Part of grinding the Caps down will be targeting and being hard on their skill players, same as any other game. That is the `game plan`. Would you be against Kunitz going hard into the corner on Green, just in case the Caps wanted to hit Letang afterwards?
Like I said, I`m not for running around after OV, but to say there is no point to hitting OV if given the chance…well, that`s ridiculous.
[quote] And, what’s up with all the caps? [/quote]
The all caps were for emphasis…pretty obvious….I did switch to bolding them for this post for your benefit.
by LastSonOfKrypton on Dec 30, 2010 9:38 PM EST up reply actions
To clarify, what Stosbro said in the comment you’re referring to was if the situation was 6-0 for the Pens. If Orpik did that and it’s already a blow out, you can bet there’s gonna be retribution on Sid. This is where my “what`s the point?” comment came from. In a 6-0 game, there is no point in hitting Ovechkin just to hit him when we’ve already beat him—you’re only going to make matters worse because you know they’re going to go after Sid as well.
That was the context of my comment and that’s where I think you misunderstood my point.
I hope this cleared things up.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Dec 30, 2010 9:43 PM EST up reply actions
Ok
That makes more sense…I thought the title and question were separate from a point he was trying to make afterward.
Though, even if it is 6-0, and Brooks had the chance to hit OV hard and clean, he should definitely go for it. This isn`t the last time we play the Caps this year, and that`s not even looking ahead to a possible playoff matchup. If we can get OV thinking twice when entering our zone because he remembers having his clock cleaned last time out, it will definitely be worth it.
The Caps might try to get back at Sid, but that`s what Godard, Asham, etc are for. People are always after Sid, regardless of the consequences. He`s a big boy, and can handle himself, so that`s not even a worry (well, anymore than it would be normally) for me.
I think maybe I was lumping you and Bob in together…as he seemed to be saying or implying that hitting would be irrelevant to the final score of the game, which just isn`t true.
by LastSonOfKrypton on Dec 30, 2010 9:49 PM EST up reply actions
*regardless of the circumstances
…that should say.
by LastSonOfKrypton on Dec 30, 2010 9:51 PM EST up reply actions
In a 6-0 game, the Pens should just concentrate on not getting hurt.
That means not blowing up the opposition, even if they have their head down.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Dec 30, 2010 9:59 PM EST up reply actions
I don`t agree, and I don`t think that Bylsma or Shero would either.
by LastSonOfKrypton on Dec 30, 2010 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
Given the way they’ve played in blowouts (sitting Sid and Geno and taking their foot off the gas), I think they’d agree with me.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Dec 30, 2010 10:31 PM EST up reply actions
To add...
because, again, what’s the point?
The score is 6-0. There really is no need—we’ve already won.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Dec 30, 2010 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
because, again, what’s the point?
The score is 6-0. There really is no need—we’ve already won.
I repeat: This isn`t the last time we play the Caps this year, and that`s not even looking ahead to a possible playoff matchup. If we can get OV thinking twice when entering our zone because he remembers having his clock cleaned last time out, it will definitely be worth it.
I think the Pens have tried and should continue to try to play hard and aggressive, regardless of the score. This `letting of the pedal` mentality is what causes teams to give up leads and lose games that they were once in control of…
by LastSonOfKrypton on Dec 30, 2010 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
And believe me, if it`s 6-0, the Caps are going to be riled up and running every Pen they can as it is…don`t think a hit for our side will make it any worse than the score already would.
by LastSonOfKrypton on Dec 30, 2010 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
don`t think a hit for our side will make it any worse than the score already would.
A cheap shot that could leave us Sid/Geno-less for a few weeks/months?
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by AllieLXXXVII on Dec 30, 2010 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
I meant, that if it is a rout for the Pens, the Caps will already be taking liberties with out players…. adding a hit on OV isn`t going to make it any worse than it already will be if we are running away on the scoreboard…
by LastSonOfKrypton on Dec 30, 2010 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
They wouldn’t be taking runs because DB watches the matchups very closely. If he can’t control the matchups, he puts Rupp/Godard/Asham with Sid and/or Geno to prevent the Caps from taking runs at our guys.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Dec 30, 2010 10:42 PM EST up reply actions
Then why wouldn`t he do the same in the event of a big hit on OV?
by LastSonOfKrypton on Dec 30, 2010 10:44 PM EST up reply actions
Kind of just made my point for me, Allie!
by LastSonOfKrypton on Dec 30, 2010 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
How did I prove your point?
I’m saying that the Caps won’t be taking runs at our best players because DB won’t let them…
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by AllieLXXXVII on Dec 30, 2010 11:17 PM EST up reply actions
And I said that if the Caps tried to take runs at our best players, ie – Sid (as a result of a hit on OV with the score out of hand) that the same thing would happen…
So, if DB wont let the Caps take runs at our best players, why should the Pens not take the hypothetical hit on OV? Your argument was that they would try to run Sid, but you just said yourself that DB would not let that happen….
by LastSonOfKrypton on Dec 30, 2010 11:21 PM EST up reply actions
Ifs, ifs, ifs.
The reality is that the Pens just aren’t that aggressive in a 6-0 blowout. Meaning that they don’t take runs at players, they just try to hold their lead.
The Caps won’t take runs at Sid because we won’t let them, so that give the Pens even less of a reason to take a run at Ovechkin.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Dec 30, 2010 11:26 PM EST up reply actions
Regardless, you said that we shouldnt take the hit on OV because you were worried about retaliation on Sid…then you said that retaliation on Sid wasnt a problem, cause DB wouldnt let that happen… doesnt make sense.
by LastSonOfKrypton on Dec 30, 2010 11:28 PM EST up reply actions
Hello?
The Pens play 3 more games against the Caps…the Pens can’t put Sid with an enforcer forever.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Dec 30, 2010 11:31 PM EST up reply actions
If the Caps are going to be trying to run Sid 2 months down the line, then we are definitely in their heads and the hit on OV would be well worth it….
And like I said, I know we play the Caps more times this year…all the more reason to give OV a 2nd thought about crossing our blueline, when he remembers getting smoked last time…
I also thought we were discussing retaliation in this game, not in future games, so my point stand that it didnt make sense that you were against hitting OV cause someone might hit Sid back, but then said that no one would run Sid cause DB wouldnt allow it… you can see why this would be confusing.
I would be more inclined to think that if someone did give it to OV good, the Caps would take that players number (ie – 44!) and try to get even with HIM more than anything. I mean, in hockeys most famous payback incident (Steve Moore on Naslund, then Todd Bertuzzi seeks retribution) did Todd Bertuzzi go after Hejduk or other Avs stars, or did he go after Steve Moore? (poor example, but gets the point across)
Point is, you dont give up a hit on anyone when given the opportunity, especially the other teams best player!
by LastSonOfKrypton on Dec 30, 2010 11:39 PM EST up reply actions
Whatevs.
I would be more inclined to think that if someone did give it to OV good, the Caps would take that players number (ie – 44!) and try to get even with HIM more than anything.
Watch this.
If that ice isn’t fresh, bank on Sid’s knee going kaboom. He’d probably still be out.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Dec 30, 2010 11:42 PM EST up reply actions
That’s the exact situation you were referring to.
Orpik laying a big hit on Stamkos and one of their players going after Sid seconds later.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Dec 30, 2010 11:44 PM EST up reply actions
And that happened less than a minute into the game. So, by your reasoning, the Pens should never lay out big hits, cause they will always come after Sid.
In reality, we can only play our game, and not worry about what the other team is going to do. That is preached by every coach and player in the league, and beyond being a cliche, its true.
If the hit is there, you take it…guaranteed the other teams in the league are not going to be as charitable you would have us be.
by LastSonOfKrypton on Dec 31, 2010 12:16 AM EST up reply actions
PS – Saying whatevs every time I counter your point makes you look immature, and that maybe you are just arguing for the sake of arguing.
Not trying to get angry or turn this petty or anything, its just really annoying.
by LastSonOfKrypton on Dec 31, 2010 12:20 AM EST up reply actions
It was made more in a sense of “whatever…I’m tired of this argument.”
Whatevs. =P
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by AllieLXXXVII on Dec 31, 2010 12:48 AM EST up reply actions
But I just won! :P LOL!
Seriously tho, my point above? That hit was in a 0-0 game, under 1 minute in…so should we never lay a hit, lest poor Sid (he can take care of himself too!) get hit in return?
by LastSonOfKrypton on Dec 31, 2010 12:56 AM EST up reply actions
Well, I’m a Texan, so I don’t how fit I am to answer your question.
You Canadians gotta watch for us Texans! Invading your game’s websites. How dare they? Make sure that you know you’re so superior!
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by AllieLXXXVII on Dec 31, 2010 1:01 AM EST up reply actions
Well, just give it your best shot, lol!
But to be honest, Texan or not, I`m pretty sure you couldnt argue with my logic anyways. :D
Anyways, you tried to talk to me as if I were a child or didnt know what I was talking about…just thought I would make my qualifications clear, lol. If you want to be mad about it, then thats your decision. Really, your all caps remark and your patronizing tone kind of got on my nerves…so I responded in kind.
All this is irrelevant, anyways…if you want to still try to impress upon me how you somehow don`t hit OV (really, it doesnt even sound right, lol, then feel free.
by LastSonOfKrypton on Dec 31, 2010 1:10 AM EST up reply actions
You’re completely missing my point here.
All I’ve got to say is that you can take you Canadian logic and shove it up your ass.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Dec 31, 2010 1:15 AM EST up reply actions
Gulp, point taken!
Thats that Texas charm Ive heard aboot, lol.
Alright, point taken. You arent willing to answer my comment, which is a shame, cause I just proved your point irrelevant, and wont get the satisfaction of hearing you say so… whether thats cause you are offended by my jackass behaviour or because you dont have a rebuttal is something I will just have to ponder on my own, lol
You know damn well how you get Allie, confrontational! I wouldnt be the first to say it, and wont be the last. Unfortunately, I have the same problem, lol. Personally, I dont mind the back and forth, until you put on your sardonic tone and start avoiding questions and dismissing rebuttals once your out of ammo. It feel cheap, and when I think Ive made my point and refuted yours, it seems you start to dance around the question or give the old whatevs… anyway, I know you know your hockey (but not enough to look down on my views, that for damn sure!), or else I would not discuss this stuff with you. So, take it to heart if you want, or get over it and we can talk puck sometime in the future.
Well, I think I`ve kept this relatively light and breezy, tried to move past a regrettable remark, so on that note, I`ll say goodnight to you, Allie.
See ya around.
by LastSonOfKrypton on Dec 31, 2010 1:30 AM EST up reply actions
Whatevs dude.
It’s just my opinion, but I think you need to watch the way the Pens handle blowouts, that are in their favor, more closely.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Dec 30, 2010 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
You are defintely entitled to your opinion…here`s mine: There is a difference between giving our secondary players some valuable playing time / resting Geno + Sid (to not rack up the score)… and completely going soft, which is what it would be if we didn`t take opportunities to lay hits on people. Despite the score, the game would not be over, and any coach would still expect you to backcheck, win your faceoffs, finish checks etc. regardless…
I personally think Bylsma would go ape sh*t if he suspected or heard any Pens players intentionally `letting off the pedal`. That`s not the way Bylsma played, and I am positive it`s not the way he wants his players to play.
That honestly sounds like something the Caps would justify, with their `job well done` before the job is actually done mentality, lol.
by LastSonOfKrypton on Dec 30, 2010 10:44 PM EST up reply actions
You’re still expected to play, but what the Pens do is this:
-They certainly don’t play as hard as when the score was 0-0.
-Sid and Geno’s ice time is lessened.
-Both guys are put with enforcers if DB senses the other team might want to start taking runs.
-The Pens do take their pedal of the gas in that they try and protect their lead.
I’m not really sure what’s making you think that the Pens play the same game when it’s a blowout.
Taking a run a guy like Ovechkin in a situation like this will do you absolutely no good.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Dec 30, 2010 11:20 PM EST up reply actions
I guarantee that Bylsma would like them to play the game as if it were still 0-0. Going into a defensive shell has cost many a team, including our Pens, this season even.
Sid and Geno are given a rest, which is normal for most teams, as usually they have to overwork their star players. This is not the same as letting off the pedal, as I explained above.
Yes, enforcers get more time…as do most of our role players. Its a reward, a way to get them more playing time, and to keep from racking up the score.
Racking up the score has nothing to do with playing hard for 60 minutes though. And playing hard for 60 mins includes finishing checks when you get the chance…cmon, you must understand the difference.
Hitting OV would be part of the game plan, regardless of the score.
by LastSonOfKrypton on Dec 30, 2010 11:25 PM EST up reply actions
Sweetheart, you seriously need to watch the way the Pens play in a blowout.
I think you’re mistaking a 3 goal lead for something like a 5 or 6 goal lead. Going into a defensive shell with the former, is not a good thing; in that situation, I agree, we need to continue to play hard. However, with the latter, protecting the lead is how the Pens handle it.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Dec 30, 2010 11:31 PM EST up reply actions
Ok, honey
Please dont talk down to me, Allie.
I was born and raised watching and playing hockey, I am Canadian, and have been a diehard Pens fan for 20 of my 27 years….dont really need a mocking tone from a Texan who has been watching hockey since the Crosby Sweepstakes, lol. Believe me, I do watch how the Pens play, in every situation, and know the team better than most.
Fine, the Pens protect the lead, that much is true (most teams do). Not really even debating that. That does not in anyway however have anything to do with not laying a hit on a player if the opportunity is there. I didnt say they should or do try to score more goals, I said they should keep up the forecheck, still try to dictate the pace, finish checks, backcheck etc.
If you have a hit on OV, you take it. Period. Case closed. To do anything else would be an aggregious offence to your team, your fans and yourself. You do not let up, especially in a rivalry this intense.
BTW, what happens when you dont step up on OV and he bounces off you, blows by you and scores a goal as a result? Or you give him that extra second to dish the puck off due to your hesitance? To put it into terms more familiar to you (ok, just giving you a hard time about the Texas thing, lol, I know there are hardcore fans out there too), do you not sack the QB on the opposing team in football, just because you have a lead in the 4th quarter? Giving him a chance to damage you on the scoreboard instead, because you dont want to risk retaliation on one of your players? Of course not, you play the game the way your supposed to play the game, regardless of the score.
Im not sure if your still arguing this cause thats what you do, or if you really do think that hitting OV isnt a good idea. To me, its almost common sense that you take the hit. Send that message, and play the way you play, instead of letting what the other team may do dictate your actions.
by LastSonOfKrypton on Dec 31, 2010 12:14 AM EST up reply actions
lol, I know, just busting chops really. Still, I have the game in my blood, studied the game, played the game, etc….didnt appreciate the tone, considering the difference in experience when it comes to this sport…
I imagine if I tried to tell Allie that she doesnt know what she is talking about when it comes to law, she would have the same reaction…
Anyways, long live Texas hockey fans! I can appreciate a real hockey fan, regardless of where they are from.
Like I said, just a jab borne from my indignance at what I thought was a patronizing comment.
I even apologize for the comment, didnt want it to sound harsh, more tongue in cheek (tho if you know Allie like I do, she isnt a big fan of these internet truces, lol)
All that aside, I do stand by my discussion related points (the Stamkos hit points above as well, Allie!) and cant really see how someone could argue otherwise. But thats probably due to my overblown Canadian ego :P lol.
Hit OV!
by LastSonOfKrypton on Dec 31, 2010 12:42 AM EST up reply actions
Heh, thanks Stros! You better forgive me, I got into this mess carrying your torch! lol
by LastSonOfKrypton on Dec 31, 2010 1:43 AM EST up reply actions
Didn't see this coming
I was born and raised watching and playing hockey, I am Canadian, and have been a diehard Pens fan for 20 of my 27 years….dont really need a mocking tone from a Texan who has been watching hockey since the Crosby Sweepstakes, lol.
How is this even necessary?
Low blow, dude. I’ve been watching hockey for close to a decade now—at least three years before the Pens got Sid.
Just because you’ve been watching hockey longer than I have doesn’t mean you know the Pens any better than I do.
Dan Bylsma came in here and implemented his system when we were both fans.
I’m not even going to bother reading the rest of your comment because the first part of it is all the ridiculousness I can take for one day.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Dec 31, 2010 12:55 AM EST up reply actions
Oh come on Allie!
Read the rest of it, you will see the reason I said it, the real intent behind it, and the admittance of my blowhardness afterwards.
I could have guessed, however, that when backed into a corner, you would take the opportunity to use this an excuse to exit the conversation… when I seem to have countered your points and there is nothing left to say, you never seem to be able to handle it…
BTW, I must have read your origin story wrong, thought I had seen you were a Pens fan since about Crosbys arrival. My bad.
Knowing Bylsma wasnt even the discussion, somehow our `debates` always end up sidetracked (I blame you, lol). My point is, that in all my `vast hockey experience`(sarcasm!), I have learned that you do not give up an opportunity for a hit (on a rival, star player and difference maker, no less) at any point! That was our original discussion, and I am still of the same mind.
Anyways, respond if you like, if not, then thats cool too. I think Ive made my point, and made it well, so there is not much more too say anyways.
Now go ride a bull or something, while I retire to my igloo for a repast of beaver tail soup, lol.
by LastSonOfKrypton on Dec 31, 2010 1:04 AM EST up reply actions
I could have guessed, however, that when backed into a corner, you would take the opportunity to use this an excuse to exit the conversation… when I seem to have countered your points and there is nothing left to say, you never seem to be able to handle it…
The conclusion that I’ve come to is that this argument isn’t going any where until you get off your Canadian high horse and watch the Pens closely in a blowout game.
I’m tired of arguing with someone who obviously hasn’t been paying attention and I refuse to argue with him any longer.
And, honestly, if I hadn’t proven my points well, why would you even have felt the need to enforce your supposed Canadian superiority?
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by AllieLXXXVII on Dec 31, 2010 1:10 AM EST up reply actions
Oh geez, Ive been off that horse for about 4 posts now, lol.
I joked about it, gave an explanation, and tried to keep the discussion going. Youve posted 3 times, each time ignoring my Q`s and points and continuing to be offended. Like I said, stupid joke/snap, shouldnt have said it. Do you want to talk about hockey still or not?
And, the reason I felt the need to explain my hockey background and knowledge base was because you resorted to your `sweetheart` tone, where you try to enforce your `superiority` and talk down to people. Like I said, got on my nerves, I responded in kind.
So, still care to explain to me why you dont finish your check when you have the lead, or why you cant hit someone on the other team because they will inevitably come after Sid? Those were are two main talking points, and though I think Ive made a good case, they might not be resolved…havent gotten an answer on either yet.
Or are we done here? Let me know, I dont want to harass you, or get off track anymore for that matter…..
by LastSonOfKrypton on Dec 31, 2010 1:18 AM EST up reply actions
BTW
The discussion was not about what the Pens do, but what they should do, (ie – To hit OV or not)…thats what Im talking about when I say sidetracked. I am not trying to break down the strategy of the Pens when up a few goals, but rather if they should keep hitting when given the chance at the end of the game (hint: YES!!).
Im not trying to say what the Pens do when they are up, but what I would like them to do (I just commented that I felt Bylsma would agree with me). I think they take that hit in that situation, and I would be disappointed if they didnt. Then I gave my reasons why. I am still waiting for a goodexplanation of why you dont think it should happen.
by LastSonOfKrypton on Dec 31, 2010 1:40 AM EST up reply actions
I guarantee the
Capswill care if we finish with more hits, and it will definitely increase our chances to win the game….
PS – How would we go about finishing with more fights? lol, it takes two to tango, Bob!
by LastSonOfKrypton on Dec 30, 2010 9:41 PM EST up reply actions
Uh, fail
Oops, supposed to be:
Hammering Ovie won’t win anything. Nobody will care if we finish the game with more hits, or more fights.
- Bob Purkey
I guarantee the Caps will care if we finish with more hits, and it will definitely increase our chances to win the game…
PS – How would we go about finishing with more fights? LOL, it takes two to tango, Bob!
by LastSonOfKrypton on Dec 30, 2010 9:44 PM EST up reply actions
Don’t “WE” owe him a cheap shot from the countless RUNS @ geno & the hit on GONCHAR in 09? he’s a punk, not a true leader….he’s like the playground bully, if someone would give him some of his own medicine, he’d lose his intimadation factor, but JUST WIN THE GAME… philly is on our heels, & NYR aren’t far behind, the 2pts are the most important…Funny thing is, during the 1st 3 episodes of HBO all the caps have talked about other then the constant cussing, was PENGUINS… yet our team is calm, coool, collected, only worrying about the next shift, shot, period, game, doesn’t matter who the team is, 2 pts, a win, winning the shift, the mark of a TRUE CHAMPION & veteren team…
[After reading some other posts] I think I see your point.
I don’t know what to say. While I dislike the guy as a player AND as a person, and secretely hope he he gets what he undoubtely deserves, I am not sure hitting him hard would help our cause. Yeah, maybe knocking him down for good would make him twice before trying his dirty tricks against us the next time. But probably not. He clearly stated last year that penalties and suspensions will not the change the way he plays hockey; and his coach, if I remember correctly, supported him on this.
I hope we concentrate on doing what we do best – winning games – and let Ovechkin do the caveman. Our enforcers and (hopefully) the referees should take care of the rest.
Then, if something unfortunate happens to him during the game, I’m sure none here will complain.
The only thing I would argue, is that OV did change his game after the suspensions…he has been much less effective since….
by LastSonOfKrypton on Dec 31, 2010 2:41 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Let him talk
Ovi can say all he wants, Sid has the hardware to back it up. No one needs to go out of their way to “rock him”. The boys just need to play business as usual, and shove it down his throat with a win.
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I seen an ESPN.com interview where Sid & No-D where asked if they were picked to be captains at the NHL’s All-Star Game this season would they pick the other first in the draft that the league is having for all-stars. No-D said yes, he would pick Sid with the first pick, but Sid said NO. Hahahaha- I love it!
Link?
I coulda sworn Sid said he would pick Geno and OV said he would pick Semin…
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by AllieLXXXVII on Dec 31, 2010 7:34 PM EST up reply actions
Haha don’t worry about it, it’s cool.
Interesting interview. I’m surprised that Sid and OV have each other’s sticks/jerseys.
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by AllieLXXXVII on Dec 31, 2010 7:54 PM EST up reply actions
That’s nothing.
In his new DVD, he said he liked his cars because they’re like his girlfriends—they do what he wants them to do.
Yeah…
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by AllieLXXXVII on Dec 31, 2010 8:29 PM EST up reply actions
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