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Think of this sort of like my version of Peter King's "Things I think I think".....But without all the pretentious notes about coffee, the joys of walking around a city or complaining about hotels.



--Atlanta's trading a second player picked #1 or #2 in the draft in less than a week, ouch.  Could you imagine Pittsburgh doing that?  Just goes to show, it's not always about picking high, it's the players around when you do pick high (thinking about bust #1 Patrick Stefan too).  Can't help but feel sorry for the die-hard Atlanta fans, hopefully their management can finally turn things around and put a solid product on the ice for them.

--It wasn't too long ago there was serious debate who'd have the better career: Kari Lehtonen or Marc-Andre Fleury.  Injuries to Lehtonen and MAF's Stanley Cup have about stopped that one dead in it's tracks, huh?

--Now that Dallas has Lehtonen, what does this mean for impending UFA Marty Turco?  A team like Philadelphia can't really be placing their hopes in Ray Emery (maybe surgery again) and Michael Leighton, can they?  My gut is telling me that Tampa Bay -- right in the thick of the hunt -- might be interested too as a sleeper team looking for a proven upgrade.

--Who would have guessed Anssi Salmela, a throw in for last week's trade, would have more goals than Ilya Kovalchuk at any point on the New Jersey Devils?  Ok so it's just to games but still.

--An ankle sprain has put Anaheim's Ryan Getzlaf status for the Olympics in doubt, even though it appears he has dodged serious injury.  The next in line reportedly is Philadelphia's Jeff Carter.  A lot of Pens fans might wonder about Jordan Staal, but even though J-Staal has arguably been playing the best hockey of his career these past 15-20 games, I don't think he's on the radar.  With Steven Stamkos (32 goals), Vincent Lecavalier and Brad Richards (who quietly has 63 points this season), Canada's depth shows itself again.  Carter would likely make any Olympic roster right off the bat except Canada.

--Rumors are swirling, probably of the wishful thinking variety, that Pittsburgh may be interested in acquiring Nashville's impending UFA Dan Hamhuis.  Well of course, they'd be interested, but don't count on Nashville trying to trade Hamhuis.  They'v got more to gain by keeping him, even if it means likely losing him in June.  Every dollar counts in Nashville and using Hamhuis down the stretch is a better bet to make it to the playoffs than trading him away now.

--Everyone ought to read Elliotte Friedman's 30 thoughts; look at bullet 15.  Marek Svatos cap hit is just north of $2 million and he's on the smallish side, but with two seasons of 26+ goal seasons he's got some skill.  Is it going to happen for Pittsburgh?  Probably not.  But in this climate with almost every team in playoff contention, there's not going to be that many choices out there.

--Friedman also mused what might have been if Montreal had acquired Marian Hossa back for 2008 playoffs.  I'd venture to guess in that alternate world the Pens probably don't make it to the Stanley Cup finals in '08.  Without that valuable learning experience of losing to the Detroit Red Wings, would Pittsburgh have "known" how to win in 2009?  It's not a stretch to think Detroit would be the two-time defending Cup champions right now if the Pens didn't trade for Hossa.

--Worth keeping an eye on: the collegiate players that have slipped through the cracks and will be UFA's.  I must admit, I don't know yet who any prospects are for this season, but you look at how the New York Rangers signed Matt Gillroy (11 points, +4) from Boston University and the Colorado Avalanche added BU teamme Brandon Yip who has 18 points (and 11 goals) in 22 games in the NHL.  Pittsburgh's gone this route with guys like Brad Thiessen and John Curry before, it'll be bear watching if they can go gold-mining for an offensive minded winger.

--It's worth reminding for every Yip there's a Janne Pesonen though, so there's no guarantee that high-risk, high-reward chance doesn't always pay off.  Then again, if you can't buy a lottery ticket, there's no chance of winning big. 

--Been mentioned, but worth repeating that Sidney Crosby is sitting on 39 goals this season, tying his career single-season high.  Crosby's got 54 goals in his past 82 games (dating back to the start of the 2009 playoffs), which really shows how his game has evolved now into one of the game's top goal scorers.

--After he scored a hat-trick on December 3rd, our favorite noted goal scorer Mike Rupp only has 3 goals in his last 31 games.  Maybe some rest over the Olympic break will help him get back into a groove.

--Reason for the Pens sitting solidly in the top half of the Eastern Conference so far this season?  They're 10-2-0 against division opponents not named the New Jersey Devils.

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It’ll be hard for a team like Pittsburgh to sign marquee NCAA UFAs because of playing time limitations (more succinctly you have good players already) and it’s been a while since a team got a goal scorer undrafted in the NCAA.

Yip was drafted in the 8th round, and neither Curry nor Theissen project very highly in the NHL.

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by Chemmy on Feb 10, 2010 8:51 AM EST reply actions  

Shit, my b on Yip….I thought he was unstaffed, guess I drank too many snow beers during my research last night..Thanks for the catch

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by Hooks Orpik on Feb 10, 2010 12:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Here is a thought I think I think...

Is there any chance of signing Jagr to an NHL contract down the stretch or does his Russian contract prevent this?

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by carolinaeasy on Feb 10, 2010 9:18 AM EST reply actions  

I believe his contract with the KHL is up after this season. So technically, I guess the Pens could sign him, but by next season he’ll be 38 going on 39. In other words, no younger than Bill Guerin really. Is this a chance you take?

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by FrankD on Feb 10, 2010 10:12 AM EST up reply actions  

I mean down the stretch this year

not much of a risk for three months..

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by carolinaeasy on Feb 10, 2010 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I’m not sure about that.

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by FrankD on Feb 10, 2010 11:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Absolutely! It’s not much of a “chance”, as Jagr appears to be in possibly the best shape of his life, attributed by him to the increase of skating necessary on the big ice. Guaranteed if JJ68 came back he’d put up 30g, 75+ pts, at the least.

by LastSonOfKrypton on Feb 10, 2010 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

And his attitude would probably be improved as he could relax behind Geno and Sid a bit… none of that pressure to weigh on him, lol.

by LastSonOfKrypton on Feb 10, 2010 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Well he’s playing at almost a point per game pace in Russia. Last season he played in 55 games and picked up 53 points, so who knows?

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by FrankD on Feb 10, 2010 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Unless his KHL team releases him, he’s not available. The NHL honors contracts from other leagues.

by RCheli on Feb 10, 2010 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought Ive heard that Jagr has one of those “escape clauses” that starts next season, or he could dissolve his KHL contract if he wanted.

With Jagr’s personality, who the hell knows

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by Hooks Orpik on Feb 10, 2010 12:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

For next season, he’s got that clause. But I thought people were asking about the second half of this year.

And I don’t see Jagr coming back here. There were a ton of rumors that he wanted to go to Edmonton of all places.

by RCheli on Feb 10, 2010 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Ok, gotcha. Yeah definitely not this season.

But who knows, I’d never say never with JJ. It would be storybook if he came back to finish his career and a nice gesture to Mario. But I think Edmonton was in the mix because they had some salary cap space at the time to get him $8-9 million a year.

And let’s be honest, when it’s that kind of money it is about the money

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"I'm glad I got drafted first, because no one remembers number two." -- Alexandre Daigle

by Hooks Orpik on Feb 10, 2010 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought Jagr did an interview with the Russian media last year saying that he wanted to sign with the Pens once his KHL contract for the league minimum to repay Mario for everything he did for Jagr’s career. I might be dreaming, but I’m pretty sure that happened, but as for whether he was being serious or not, who knows…

by Hatt the Moople on Feb 10, 2010 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

That did happen but Jagr’s said he wants to play in about 6 places, so take it with a large, large grain of salt.

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"I'm glad I got drafted first, because no one remembers number two." -- Alexandre Daigle

by Hooks Orpik on Feb 10, 2010 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, that’s kind of what I figured. I wasn’t sure if it was just Jariomir being Jariomir.

by Hatt the Moople on Feb 10, 2010 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I think he has to clear re-entry waivers…?

by DigitalGypsy66 on Feb 10, 2010 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I think he left as an UFA. If so, he is free to sign with whomever.

by Ulf Murphy on Feb 10, 2010 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Janne Pesonen to me was the biggest disappointment. All that potential just never did quite work out. But you have to take that chance, I agree. You have to play to win. Not even sure where Pesonen is at the minute.

I doubt Jagr will be back in the NHL again. I know last year Edmonton wanted him but could never work it out. I also see Kovalchuk heading in that direction if New Jersey cannot sign him {I believe the Kings found that to be too risky of a deal, he would have been a big help for them but they didn’t want to give up a lot for what could turn out to be this years Marian Hossa}.

No one has the rights to Jagr at the minute, but there is not a lot of warmth between the KHL and the NHL right now, so I doubt he could just jump ship and come back here. The KHL really needs him more anyway. Just a thought.

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by spiker97 on Feb 10, 2010 10:10 AM EST reply actions  

Pesonen’s in the KHL, playing on Ak-Bars (the team that Morozov’s been with since he left the Pens). He’s doing okay — 14-11-25 in 42 games.

by RCheli on Feb 10, 2010 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Staal is still very young and has plenty of time to make Olympic squads. Let the Lecavaliers and Richards have a shot now.

by PensFan024 on Feb 10, 2010 10:43 AM EST reply actions  

Rumors are swirling, probably of the wishful thinking variety, that Pittsburgh may be interested in acquiring Nashville’s impending UFA Dan Hamhuis. Well of course, they’d be interested, but don’t count on Nashville trying to trade Hamhuis.

This sort of thing cracks me up. This time of year, all hockey fans are thinking, “Maybe we can dump this guy who sucks and takes up too much cap space, in exchange for a talented player who will save the team!” Righhhhht, but that’s what every team is hoping to do… nobody is going to sell an amazing player in exchange for your slumping, overpaid players. If we got Dan Hamhuis it would be for a price that Pens fans don’t like.

by Cari on Feb 10, 2010 12:04 PM EST reply actions  

I tell you what, I’m more than a little excited to see him in the olympics

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by Hooks Orpik on Feb 10, 2010 12:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I’m kinda psyched about that too.

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by FrankD on Feb 10, 2010 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Is it that the Pens don’t have any Czechs or my inability to pay attention to the rest of the NHL that leads me to believe that the Czech Republic has gone from having a very strong hockey program to having a whole lot of old guys that used to play in the NHL?

by Ulf Murphy on Feb 10, 2010 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Their numbers have dwindled a lot recently….Which you’d think after the ‘98 Olympics there’d be more not less great players coming out of Czech. Here’s a great post Mirtle did last summer about the topic, you’ll probably find it interesting.

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"I'm glad I got drafted first, because no one remembers number two." -- Alexandre Daigle

by Hooks Orpik on Feb 10, 2010 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

That was a fun read, thanks for the link hooks (the article was fun too). I would guess that the loss of Soviet funding may have some sort of impact on that.

by PensFan024 on Feb 10, 2010 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Once again, you are a plethora of knowledge (or memory). Thanks. That was a very interesting read. It makes me want to research it more (come 4/15). For a country to put out players like Jagr and Hasek, all-time greats, to have few players even in the game, is kinda scary. The KHL argument does not suprise me as I am sure you know from our prior talks. I am still of the opinion that Kovalchuck is gone next year, especially if he flounders in NJ.

by Ulf Murphy on Feb 10, 2010 4:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Jagr did bring the mullet back. Last picture I saw of him hes was sporting the mullet again.

by genomachine-O on Feb 11, 2010 7:41 AM EST up reply actions  

The Pens don’t want Marek Svatos. No one wants Marek Svatos. Tiny dude who used up his allotted skill in his first couple of years and now just whines about nagging injuries while taking the laziest stick penalties ever.

He’s like Marty St. Louis, but without the skill, dedication, discipline, uhhh, what else is St. Louis good at, because I’m sure Svatos sucks there too.

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by Richard R on Feb 10, 2010 12:31 PM EST reply actions  

You’re probably exactly right, there’s a lot more negative than positive

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by Hooks Orpik on Feb 10, 2010 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Hooks I mean this with the utmost respect: you are a nerd. Great post though.

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by AlexStitch on Feb 10, 2010 12:50 PM EST reply actions  

Hah. Thanks. I think.

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by Hooks Orpik on Feb 10, 2010 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Don’t worry, it’s a compliment. I wouldn’t even know where to begin to make a post as meaningful and worthy as the gems you put out.

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by AlexStitch on Feb 10, 2010 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I would loved to see Jagr come back to Pittsburgh. I know a lot of fans hated him once he left, and booed him everytime he came back, but I wasn’t one of them. He was one of my favorite players growing up, the 2nd greatest Penguin ever, and he should retire as a Penguins. I want to see the 68 lifted to the rafters at Consol. I dont think he will come back next year, but the only way for him to retire from hockey would be in a Penguins uniform. Heres to hoping he would want one last season as a Penguin….

by genomachine-O on Feb 11, 2010 7:45 AM EST reply actions  

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