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Kris Letang ain't comin' off wack: Pittsburgh 2, Ottawa 1

Kris Letang will make you jump, jump (Photo by Justin K. Aller/Getty Images)

The first goal of this game came as some people were still trying to find their remote control to change the channel to FSN.  A whole 18 seconds in, on the first shot of the game, Peter Regin buried a shot from above the circles through Sergei Gonchar and past Marc-Andre Fleury.  Assists went to Jason Spezza and Daniel Alfredsson, naturally.  Originally, it appeared as if Fleury just missed it through a partial screen, but replay showed that Gonchar managed to deflect the shot with his stick, and Ottawa led 1-0.

The Penguins got that one back, though, when Sidney Crosby jammed home a Chris Kunitz rebound to tie the game at 1.  This seemed to cause the game to turn to an almost comical level of physicality, right up until the point that Andy Sutton annihilated Jordan Leopold with an elbow to the head that amazingly garnered no penalty whatsoever.  I can only imagine this will get a review for supplemental discipline, perhaps even before the night is out.  Given that Leopold lay unconscious on the ice for a couple minutes, it's not surprising that he wasn't able to return to the game.

As time expired in the first period, frustrations reached a head and Michael Rupp shoved Zach Smith out the zamboni door.  Smith retaliated by getting into a fight with Maxime Talbot that honestly looked like they were doing it just to say they did, and everyone left the ice.

The second period was a back-and-forth affair with some offense but a lot of neutral zone play.  Eventually, enough of that and the Penguins had enough.  Evgeni Malkin drew a holding call on Andy Sutton and the team appeared to come to life once again.  The last couple minutes of the period was all Pittsburgh, as the defense remembered how to do their jobs and the offense was able to keep up pressure when they were in the Senators' zone.

The second period also gave us this great screen capture, courtesy of @kylekebert:

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via twitpic.com

All Penguin fans who were watching the game saw the energy the team had to close the second period and hoped they'd be able to watch the team hit paydirt in the third.  But for fantastic play by Brian Elliott, a ridiculous poke check by Fleury, and a Rob Scuderi-like bid for Vezina, the period would have been a cavalcade of goals.

Kris Letang ended all that, though, with a goal from the point through a screen by old man Bill Guerin, who got an assist along with Crosby, at 15:48 of the third period.  The Senators put some pressure on at the end with the extra attacker, but it wasn't sufficient for their purposes.  Ballgame.

Shots by period:

  • Period the first:  Pittsburgh 10, Ottawa 6.  Three of Pittsburgh's shots were from dangerous spots, whereas none of Ottawa's were.  The goal came on a snap shot from 40 feet deflected off of Gonchar's stick.
  • Period the second:  Pittsburgh 11, Ottawa 7.  Six or seven of Pittsburgh's shots were in high-percentage areas, and only one shot from Ottawa was similarly dangerous.
  • Period the final:  Pittsburgh 10, Ottawa 7.  Only two of Pittsburgh's shots were from a scoring position (the goal came from 54 feet), and only one Ottawa shot was dangerous.
Pittsburgh's defense was altogether more solid this game than last.  Whether it was the coaching staff or the Captain lighting a fire under everyone, whatever it was worked.  Here's hoping the team realizes that this sort of play, this level of intensity is what it's going to take to beat the Senators this series.

Game 3 is Sunday at 6:30.

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The caption for that pic of the kid is either, “Why I oughta,” or, “If one more kid makes a joke about my Pens hat with flames on it, I’m gonna crap myself.”

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by FrankD on Apr 16, 2010 10:05 PM EDT reply actions  

astonished

i am astonished that there was no penalty on that hit from sutton. another bill mcreary failure. given that its the playoffs i wouldnt be suprised to see no discipline what so ever.
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leos lucky to be alive right now after the speed and location of that elbow. again it will take someone getting killed to get this crap out of th game

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by oldtimehockey09 on Apr 16, 2010 10:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Great game -->>

sustained intensity
well done
best of 5
bring it

by Diomedes7 on Apr 16, 2010 10:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Pensburgh signs are 5-0

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16 wins to go...still
Let's go Pens!

by PensAreYourDaddy on Apr 16, 2010 10:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Awesome! Someone did see them during the game, but at the time Leopold was down.

by Cari on Apr 16, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Holy hell. Oh well, did it for the good mojo, not necessarily the tv exposure. I had to go commando to get them in there since I didn’t have Igloo seats tonight and you’re not supposed to get past the East Igloo Lounge police without them.

16 wins to go...still
Let's go Pens!

by PensAreYourDaddy on Apr 16, 2010 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

you>>>>>>james bond, jason bourne, etc.

STAAL FOR SELKE. SIDNEY FOR EVERY OTHER ONE.

by katielynn906 on Apr 16, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

So you weren’t wearing any underwear?

(I know what you actually meant, but that’s how I read it, first time through!)

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by PopRocks on Apr 16, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not sure what the hell I was thinking when I typed that sentence! That’s how I would have read it too, especially being a huge Joey Tribiani fan.

16 wins to go...still
Let's go Pens!

by PensAreYourDaddy on Apr 16, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

cue theme from “Friends” LOL. Did you have a great time at the game?

by CGNC on Apr 16, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had an amazing time. I love this damn team. My wife couldn’t make the game so I took a buddy from work who has been to a few games at Mellon but never a playoff game. Now I’m pretty sure he is going to ask his wife if they can move to Pittsburgh so he can experience this more often.

16 wins to go...still
Let's go Pens!

by PensAreYourDaddy on Apr 16, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Most of the people around me these days are only pseudo hockey fans. I love taking them to games and getting them hooked. I’ve never been to a playoff game, but I can imagine the effect!

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by PopRocks on Apr 16, 2010 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha. I had a little trouble figuring out what it had to do with getting into the Igloo with out tickets.

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by PopRocks on Apr 16, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

that hit on Leopold from the replay was a head shot. should be 2 games min for Sutton, because I’d be real surprised if Leopold is able to suit for the rest of this series.

by Randy F on Apr 16, 2010 10:11 PM EDT reply actions  

not suprisingly

most of the game thread from our estemed colleges at silver seven called it a clean hit.

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by oldtimehockey09 on Apr 16, 2010 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

CBC called it a clean hit, Leopold had his head down and Sutton is so tall that he hit him withe elbow , but he did not appear to raise his elbow to hit him. That’s why there was no penalty. He (Leopold), has at least a concussion , he will be out the rest of the series. Sid was incredible, talking about one guy controlling the game. On top of his goal and an assist, he had a fantasti Scuderi type save.

by Outcast on Apr 16, 2010 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

pathetic

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by oldtimehockey09 on Apr 16, 2010 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

As Outcast mentioned...

Leopold had his head down and Sutton is tall. It was unfortunate, but it wasn’t malicious or dirty.

Look upon my 62% faceoff win rate, ye mortals, and despair!

by Orion Moony on Apr 17, 2010 7:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just because the league sided with you doesn’t mean you’re right.

by JustinM on Apr 18, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

my power was out until halfway through the third, also a pine tree in my yard broke in half, probably the same time the sens scored.

by DrPainDDS on Apr 16, 2010 10:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Geez. You guys got it really bad. I live on the other side of the Delaware (in New Jersey) and here it’s raining with a little bit of thunder and lightning. The worst thing that happened to me was finding my twelve-pound terrier wrapped up in my bed sheets shaking in fear of the storm.

by kellyn on Apr 16, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

There was sideways rain.

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by PopRocks on Apr 16, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ooohh, driving rain! That’s always fun!

by kellyn on Apr 16, 2010 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

That screen cap makes me almost as happy as if it was a kid in a Leaf jersey.
/tear

by BlindSight on Apr 16, 2010 10:16 PM EDT reply actions  

not suspended

just heard on NHL on the Fly that Sutton’s hit will not be punished by the league

by dgamboa9999 on Apr 16, 2010 10:23 PM EDT reply actions  

agian not suprised. outcast i dont give a dang if he raised his elbow to hit him. he hit him with his friggin elbow. there is not intent with a high stick penalty, its high sticking. defining intent on an elbowing penalty is retarded. alls you have to do is watch the follow through from sutton, he follows through with his elbow. a garbage hit and once again, unbalanced league discipline. friggin morons. its a wonder why i expect anything from colin campbell and his clown cars of officials.

that hit was just as bad if not worse then cookes hit on savard. i am leaning toward worse because of the fact both players were traveling in opposite directions, thus more inertia involved in the collison.

its a farce and its insulting

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by oldtimehockey09 on Apr 16, 2010 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

that hit was just as bad if not worse then cookes hit on savard.

Are you serious right now? Give me a break.

Seriously, though, all the best to Leopold, I hope he’s fine. But get real.

by Peter Raaymakers on Apr 16, 2010 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes

your dang right im serious. look at the speed of the two collisions. look at the circumstances. a full head of steam and he pop leo right in the mellon.

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by oldtimehockey09 on Apr 16, 2010 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not trying to downplay the seriousness of the collision, but completely different situations. Leopold was skating up the ice on his off-wing, making it immediately difficult for him to see an oncoming checker; the fact that Nick Foligno was backchecking him hard further distracted him. He looked down at the puck, as defencemen leading the rush are prone to doing, and got hit because of it. The mitigating factors involved made the contact much worse than it should have been, but that doesn’t make the actual contact reprehensible.

by Peter Raaymakers on Apr 16, 2010 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

in my book it does. your already engaged with another guy, sutton came from out of no where with a full head of steam. leo was completly defenseless. its a pathetic hit, by a guy who has a knack of pulling shenanigans against the pens…

just as pascal dupuis

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by oldtimehockey09 on Apr 16, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can you watch CBC? Watch at intermission: Brooks Orpik said it wasn’t a dirty hit, Sutton’s just playing hard.

by Peter Raaymakers on Apr 16, 2010 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

rule differance:

nfl:
Striking opponent on head or neck with forearm, elbow, or hands whether or not the initial contact is made below the neck area. 15yards and ejection from the game if flagrant

nhl:

crickets

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by oldtimehockey09 on Apr 16, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh crap...

here it is….silly me:

NEW YORK — Beginning with tonight’s games, the National Hockey League will implement a new rule prohibiting “a lateral, back-pressure or blind-side hit to an opponent where the head is targeted and/or the principal point of contact.”

Under the new rule, the NHL Hockey Operations Department is empowered to review any such hit for the purpose of Supplementary Discipline.

“We believe this is the right thing to do for the game and for the safety of our players,” Commissioner Gary Bettman said after receiving unanimous approval from the Board of Governors as well as the endorsement of the NHL/NHLPA Competition Committee and the NHLPA Executive Board. “The elimination of these types of hits should significantly reduce the number of injuries, including concussions, without adversely affecting the level of physicality in the game.”

so you are correct… you can go full speed and tatoo a guy with your elbow so long as its tucked in and hes not skating away from you…..

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by oldtimehockey09 on Apr 16, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

and if you spent some actuall time here, you would know i do….even if you read before posting i do…

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by oldtimehockey09 on Apr 17, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

As it should be. It was a good, clean hit. That said, I hope Jordan Leopold is just shaken up rather than seriously injured and is back sooner rather than later.

by kellyn on Apr 16, 2010 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

With Leopold’s concussion history, I genuinely hope he’s all right.

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by Mark Parisi on Apr 16, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

literally no words for this game.
sidney crosby is at a level beyond…EVERYTHING.
jordan, please come back to us soon. we loves you.

STAAL FOR SELKE. SIDNEY FOR EVERY OTHER ONE.

by katielynn906 on Apr 16, 2010 10:23 PM EDT reply actions  

seriously

Staal was really bad last night. He’s got to pick it up!

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by CBKWit on Apr 17, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think she was talking about Jordan Leopold. And Staal wasn’t bad at all, the Third Line was playing really hard and making some really good moves.

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by AlexStitch on Apr 17, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

duh!

of course she meant Leo, I’m an idiot. But Staal was struggling last night, I know hands aren’t his strong suit yet, but he mishandled a lot of pucks

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by CBKWit on Apr 17, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

it’s okay. i talk about j-staal a lot…so i can see how you’d think that. =)

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by katielynn906 on Apr 17, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Even though I know I’m probably going against the majority when I say this, Sutton’s hit on Jordan Leopold was clean. It was a textbook north-south body check a la Scott Stevens on Ron Francis during the first round of the ‘01 playoffs. Leopold was attempting to skate the puck through the neutral zone, Sutton caught him on the blueline with his head down and proceeded to lay him out. He kept his elbow tucked into his body on initial contact with Leopold, and any contact it had with Leopold’s head subsequently had more to do with Leopold’s body position (hunched over in an attempt to protect the puck from a backchecking Senator and, perhaps chief among the cardinal sins of ice hockey, watching the puck rather than what was going on around on the ice) than any malice on the part of Sutton. While the result of the hit was regrettable, the hit itself was a good clean hit. That’s old-time hockey.

by kellyn on Apr 16, 2010 10:27 PM EDT reply actions  

clean and scott stevens in the same post is not the best mix…just sayin

AND THAT IS NOT OLD TIME HOCKEY, NOT BY A LONG SHOT

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by oldtimehockey09 on Apr 16, 2010 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m a Devils fan, and have spent a lot of time debating the legality of almost each and every memorable bodycheck Scott Stevens ever made. Stevens was probably one of the hardest hitters ever to play the game, and unlike a lot of today’s player who aspire to be counted as such, he knew when to do it and how to do it cleanly. In a career spanning over twenty seasons, he was only ever whistled for elbowing four times. I fail to ascertain your point, if there was one.

by kellyn on Apr 16, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

also of note

b.w him, ulfie, and darius kasparitus they were largely considered the dirties players of thier time.

thus clean and scott steven shouldnt be mentioned in the same segment

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by oldtimehockey09 on Apr 16, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

so

according to you if he leads with his elbow hes suspended, but if he lines him up, tucks his elbows, and hits him with said elbow its fair game. what happens if its a career ender? what happens if because of the force of that hit, leo doesnt get up.

nice logic.

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by oldtimehockey09 on Apr 16, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s not logic, it’s the way it is. If Sutton leads with his elbow, it’s a dirty hit worthy of a penalty and suspension. But he didn’t, so it’s not, and he won’t be. The outcome of a clean hit, no matter how unfortunate, should not in and of itself render said hit dirty.

by kellyn on Apr 16, 2010 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

again based on intent.

your a friggin pro athlete coordinated enough to know what your doing at all times. so why even bother with intent. the nhl holds them accountable for thier sticks…why not elbow and knees. did i already have this blasted discussion with all the ovechkin homers when he kneed gooch last year?

WTF?!?!?!

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by oldtimehockey09 on Apr 16, 2010 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

and further more

by that logic, cookes hit on savard was clean also since he didnt “lead” with his elbow.

yeah ok

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by oldtimehockey09 on Apr 16, 2010 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, I did think that Cook’s hit on Savard was clean because, at the time, there was no rule in the NHL rulebook sanctioning against what Cooke did. That has since changed, but rules are not retroactive.

by kellyn on Apr 16, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know if I properly voiced my opinion on the Cooke hit, but at the time of the hit i didn’t think it was dirty or clean, I jus thought it was entirely unnecessary. I mean, I know hitting is part of the game, but the actual hit itself didn’t prevent a shot (it was already in flight), didn’t stop a rebound (shot went wide, right?) and didn’t gain the Pens possession. It literally just knocked a good player out of the game for the remainder of the season. I wouldn’t say intent to injure and I wouldn’t say dirty hit, just…unnecessary.

Does that make sense, or am I digging myself into a hole here?

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by FrankD on Apr 17, 2010 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

If you are, I’m in there with you. You’ve articulated my thoughts very well.

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by PopRocks on Apr 17, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

What you said makes sense.

I don’t think Cooke’s intent was to injure Savard. I think he was trying to preserve a one-goal lead late in a game in which two valuable points in the standings were up for grabs. In my opinion, his intent was to knock Savard off of the puck. Obviously he got to Savard too late to accomplish his original goal and wound up knocking out Savard after he had already got the shot off.

Unfortunately, I believe the rise in concussions caused by lateral back-pressure blind-side hits to the head is a direct result of the attention payed to the enforcement of anti-obstruction rules coming out of the lockout. Wheres before the lockout, a defender would have been able to hook or hold Savard to impede his progress through the neutral zone toward the defending team’s net, now the only options open to them are to either let Savard take the shot and risk a scoring chance against or eliminate him from the play entirely by playing the body.

It saddens me that it took the NHL nearly five seasons to realize that changing the rules in one area of the game in order to create more offense would inevitably impact the game in other areas, in this case an increase in physicality to counteract said increase in scoring chances. I guess the NHL higher ups were absent on the day their high school physics class covered Newton’s third law of motion: For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.

by kellyn on Apr 17, 2010 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

the hit sucked. may not have been illegal, but it just sucked. i think i can safely say that i just want leopold to get well as soon as he can. can we all agree on that?

update on leopold: http://penguins.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=525877&navid=DL|PIT|home

basically, he ain’t doin’ so hot and we’ll see how he is tomorrow. just get well, leopold.

STAAL FOR SELKE. SIDNEY FOR EVERY OTHER ONE.

by katielynn906 on Apr 16, 2010 10:42 PM EDT reply actions  

there it is right there

by CGNC on Apr 16, 2010 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks for the back up. =)

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by katielynn906 on Apr 16, 2010 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I too hope he gets well soon. I was glad to see that he was able to get up and leave the ice under his own power under the supervision of the team’s trainers. It’s never fun to watch a player get stretchered off the ice, no matter what the circumstances.

by kellyn on Apr 16, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s basically it. It just sucked. I didn’t think it was illegal either. I wasn’t home for the first period but I got a text from a friend (assuming I was) asking, “Sutton is getting suspended for that.”

So when I got home ad saw it, I didn’t think it was in suspension territory. But like man hits or hits that cause injury, I never have any clue whether it will be or not because I still don’t think the league knows.

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by FrankD on Apr 17, 2010 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

I just took a look at the replay, and there are one or two views where it really looks like Sutton tucked his elbow in, and it was a clean hit from a tall guy on a guy with his head down. I suppose we’ll find out for sure tomorrow (or Sunday?), but I’m leaning toward the ‘no suspension’ guess.

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by PopRocks on Apr 16, 2010 10:52 PM EDT reply actions  

It’s already been said there’s no suspension. Bob McKenzie (from TSN) tweeted it.

by Peter Raaymakers on Apr 16, 2010 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Then I guess I’m right!

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by PopRocks on Apr 16, 2010 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess that whole twitter thing is here to stay when even members of the mainstream hockey media have a twitter account, huh? And here I was hoping it was a passing fad and I could avoid opening yet another social networking account….

by kellyn on Apr 16, 2010 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right there with you!

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by PopRocks on Apr 16, 2010 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hopefully it will just be a few games like Cooke

by CGNC on Apr 16, 2010 10:53 PM EDT reply actions  

I thought the hit was dirty, and worthy of both a penalty and league review — though I can see the league deciding against a suspension for the reasons stated above. But I can’t see it as a “good clean hit.”

I don’t care if Orpik disagrees with me — everyone has a different opinion about this one.

by Cari on Apr 16, 2010 10:58 PM EDT reply actions  

I can understand that. Opinions are going to differ, and I can see why there is uncertainty with this particular hit—definitely a close call. We just see it differently.

by Peter Raaymakers on Apr 16, 2010 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would not have complained if there was a penalty called on the play. I felt it was a borderline hit, but physical play on the edge is why the team got Sutton in the first place.

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by Mark Parisi on Apr 16, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I suppose if we’re looking for something good to come from the hit: it certainly fired the rest of the Pens up. Sutton dropped a giant (elbow-ish) anvil on that mythical switch.

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by PopRocks on Apr 16, 2010 11:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Thanks for the link to the videos. The first one was a good hit, the second was a hit from behind right into the #9 on Pascal Dupuis’ jersey.

by kellyn on Apr 16, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

thinking out loud

wonder what would happen if it were paise lying on the ice….

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by oldtimehockey09 on Apr 16, 2010 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

It depends on the circumstances. Patrik Elias got injured on a similar hit early on in the regular season and missed several games with concussion-like symptoms. Jacques Lemaire’s assessment of that hit was that Patrik is a veteran player who should know better than to skate through the neutral zone with his head down. I happened to agree with him regardless of the fact that the hit left the Devils without their franchise playmaker.

by kellyn on Apr 16, 2010 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lindros always had his head down ALWAYS

by CGNC on Apr 16, 2010 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

 All I know about Eric Lindros is that he always seemed to have his head down on the moments when he should have been paying attention.

by kellyn on Apr 16, 2010 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

that’s what I meant, it’s been along week, I am babbling….

by CGNC on Apr 16, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

im calling

shenanigans

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by oldtimehockey09 on Apr 16, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you mean the restaurant.

by kellyn on Apr 16, 2010 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whether hits are legal or not, if it leaves a player lifeless on the ice it is never GOOD

by CGNC on Apr 16, 2010 11:11 PM EDT reply actions  

i’m interrupting this conversation in order to say “PAY ATTENTION TO ME”: i called tanger’s goal in the game thread. done, please continue.

STAAL FOR SELKE. SIDNEY FOR EVERY OTHER ONE.

by katielynn906 on Apr 16, 2010 11:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Does that mean he gets an edible arrangement? If so, I would go for something with chocolate in it. Tanger’s French. French people like chocolate. And pastries.

by kellyn on Apr 16, 2010 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

YES. but sidney has to get a bigger one. he was un-freaking-believable tonight.

according to the pens media guide (shut up), apparently tanger’s favorite food is steak. maybe we can make one out of steak.

STAAL FOR SELKE. SIDNEY FOR EVERY OTHER ONE.

by katielynn906 on Apr 16, 2010 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sidney did look like he was made of all things awesome tonight. That’s what, five points in two playoff games? Unreal.

And I think Tanger only said steak to make himself sound tough. From all the articles I’ve ever read about the Penguins, I get the feeling that he gets picked on by his teammates a lot. Like I once read an article where Brooks Orpik was ragging on him for asking so many questions and not having enough confidence in himself.

by kellyn on Apr 16, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

there are simply no words. unreal. just sick.

hahaha, i totally believe this. which just means in my head that he’s probably a total sweetheart and i just choose to believe that every player on the pens is a nice guy. i think pastries are good. maybe one of those, like, pastry basket things you get at christmas time.

STAAL FOR SELKE. SIDNEY FOR EVERY OTHER ONE.

by katielynn906 on Apr 16, 2010 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, much love. =)

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by katielynn906 on Apr 16, 2010 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was from his draft year, right? If so, I can’t believe he’s only, like, seventeen in that picture. He looks like he’s in his twenties.

by kellyn on Apr 16, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

wait, he’s like 17 in this picture?

…oh crap.

STAAL FOR SELKE. SIDNEY FOR EVERY OTHER ONE.

by katielynn906 on Apr 16, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, if he was seventeen when that picture was taken, than I was only seventeen at the time as well, so I don’t feel bad about finding him attractive it it, if that makes any sense. Which it probably doesn’t.

by kellyn on Apr 16, 2010 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

by that logic, i was only sixteen, so we’re good! HIGH FIVE.

STAAL FOR SELKE. SIDNEY FOR EVERY OTHER ONE.

by katielynn906 on Apr 16, 2010 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Doesn’t matter anyway; he was legal in Canada at the time (and NY, NJ, and kind of in PA), so I think you’re both covered pretty well. Wikipedia knows everything.

by JustinM on Apr 18, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Perhaps the best thing about this is that you took the time to look it up :)

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by PopRocks on Apr 18, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

dunno. JustinM dug it out a few days ago and posted it. I am a copycat :-D

by CGNC on Apr 16, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Google Image Search > all

by JustinM on Apr 18, 2010 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

On a different subject ...

With Chicago’s loss tonight, that’s 5 of the 8 series starting with a loss by the higher seed. And 6 of 8 if we pretend like Detroit has a higher seed than Phoenix.

Anyone have theories about what’s going on?

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by PopRocks on Apr 16, 2010 11:13 PM EDT reply actions  

awesome hockey.

STAAL FOR SELKE. SIDNEY FOR EVERY OTHER ONE.

by katielynn906 on Apr 16, 2010 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

no text from your mom about this game?

by CGNC on Apr 16, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

she was furniture shopping. i had to text her updates. trust, the fact that you asked about her will make her life. =)

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by katielynn906 on Apr 16, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s the playoffs. If there’s one thing I’ve learned, it’s expect the unexpected.

by kellyn on Apr 16, 2010 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but it’s still a little surprising to see so many of the teams drop their first home game! It could be a result of parity emerging in the league. It could also just be a result of the particular match-ups that emerged. Or teams not taking their competition seriously. Or teams being the Sharks.

It might just be an anomaly, but I wonder if there’s more to it.

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by PopRocks on Apr 16, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

or all of the above

by CGNC on Apr 16, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or all of the above.

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by PopRocks on Apr 16, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Speaking of other teams that may or may not be playing right now…this Yotes-Wings game is WILD!!! Goals o’plenty!

Go Yotes!

15 wins to gol
Let's go Pens!

by PensAreYourDaddy on Apr 16, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know! Hopefully Phoenix can take the lead yet again.

And fyi, it took me a full three minutes to type that sentence, because I am so caught up in the game!

Go, Phoenix, go!

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by PopRocks on Apr 16, 2010 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

totally jumping on the Phoenix bandwagon…who the hell are these guys (besides Shane Doan)? For a while there they were totally out working the Red Wings in their own zone.
They just want it more than the wings…

I've told [a 9 months pregnant] Nathalie that she can't have the baby on a game night. I'm not missing a playoff game. -Mario Lemieux in 1993

by PensFan8725 on Apr 17, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

That game is insane. I want to know what Ilya Bryzgalov and Jimmy Howard are on. Because I want some.

by kellyn on Apr 16, 2010 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heh … my roommate can probably hook you up …

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by PopRocks on Apr 16, 2010 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

They just showed the Phoenix bench and I totally looked for the Pensburgh signs.

I might be an idiot.

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by PopRocks on Apr 16, 2010 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s just one of those things that happens when you spend too much time on this website. For example, during times of intense hockey obsession, I find myself hitting the “z” key on other websites, and then I get confused when it doesn’t jump to new comments.

by Cari on Apr 16, 2010 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

The number of times I hit “z” before I remember that I’m not on SB Nation is probably a good indicator of how distracted I am by hockey at any given time.

by Cari on Apr 16, 2010 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Although in support of my ’I’m an idiot’ theory: I just discovered the ‘z’ feature tonight.

But I’m right there with you on the total-distraction-by-all-things-hockey!

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by PopRocks on Apr 16, 2010 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, some day fate will take me back to Phoenix and then I will totally put up some Pensburgh signs behind the bench.

15 wins to gol
Let's go Pens!

by PensAreYourDaddy on Apr 16, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice Kris Kross reference.

by SlayerGhaleon on Apr 16, 2010 11:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Sutton

said after the game “I think the [Crosby] hit on Jarkko behind the net was way worse. I got suspended hitting Pascal Dupuis this year for the same hit.”

I understand that he’s going to defend his own hit… but CROSBY’S hit was worse?? Give me a freaking break.

by Cari on Apr 17, 2010 12:27 AM EDT reply actions  

Ruutu actually hurt himself embellishing Sid’s cross check…that’s pretty pathetic to try and deflect some of the attention away from him.

I've told [a 9 months pregnant] Nathalie that she can't have the baby on a game night. I'm not missing a playoff game. -Mario Lemieux in 1993

by PensFan8725 on Apr 17, 2010 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

What...this?

.

.
My answer to that hit is:
.

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by PensAreYourDaddy on Apr 17, 2010 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

It was acting at its…worst

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by FrankD on Apr 17, 2010 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

After watching the amazing interview, I have to add
IS HE AN EXPERT????
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmVdVJ1sRJI

by Cari on Apr 17, 2010 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know whether to laugh or cry. That is fantastic!

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by PopRocks on Apr 17, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pens vs. the Ottawa Acting Academy

If we play every single game like that, I have no doubt that we can hoist the Cup yet again. But I still had some thoughts, which I know all of you want to hear.

As the subject says, the Sens are obviously more interested in an Oscar bid because I see a whole lot of acting out there, examples being Orpik’s penalty in the first and Crosby’s hit on Ruutu behind our net. If every time you get checked you’re going to fall to the ice and lay there like you just got knocked out, get out of the NHL. Is that how Ottaway always plays hockey?

Fleury and his space cadet ways still bothered me, especially after seeing that piece where he was late to game one. The Pens site says he refutes it, but it’s hard to refute a time stamped video. If it’s true, than WTF Fleury? Your job in life is to play a game. To stay in shape and healthy, watch video, go to practice, and play a game. If you can’t do that, you got problems. And I also didn’t like how much he played the puck again. Stay in the net, don’t impersonate Jacques Plante. But he did bounce back like everyone said he would. But being the MAF doubter that I am, he better not showcase a shitty game in Ottawa now.

The Sutton hit looked clean to me. That’s all I’m going to say about that. And finally, good to see Feds out and Rupp in, he looked great playing out there and really did add a little punch to everyone’s play. Keep Feds out, and similarly, I was glad to see Talbot get moved up to play beside Dupuis and Malkin. Poni, what are you doing out there? I don’t know what else to say about him without sounding like a broken record, but the 4th line is what you’ve earned. Who else could we put in there besides Feds? I called up Tangradi in NHL 10 to replace Poni and it worked out wonderfully. Just saying.

"Half the game is mental, the other half is being mental." - Jim McKenny

by AlexStitch on Apr 17, 2010 12:33 AM EDT reply actions  

The Sutton hit looked clean to me.

Me too. I was super pissed when I first saw it, but after I calmed down I realized that it was pretty much a straight line hit (could’ve been a charge though). I wish they would ban all head shots though.

I've told [a 9 months pregnant] Nathalie that she can't have the baby on a game night. I'm not missing a playoff game. -Mario Lemieux in 1993

by PensFan8725 on Apr 17, 2010 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Man, that was a good game. Crosby showed why he is on a seperate level from everyone in the NHL and how about Tanger’!? I couldn’t believe it when I saw him score that beauty. I hate to say it but I’ve grown pretty accustom to seeing he and Gogo miss the net on many of their shots.

The hit on Leo was a scary one. His back looked like jello as he went spinning through the air. Hopefully he is ok. Has anyone heard anything on him yet?

On a side note, how about the playoffs so far. Could you ask for a better start? Tons of upsets, and tons of close hard, fought games. I’m currently watching the Sharks-Avalanche game which is 5-5 going into OT! I love the NHL.

by packallday555 on Apr 17, 2010 1:32 AM EDT reply actions  

Tough finish to that one for Colorado. If these early games are any indication, it is going to be a crazy playoff year.

15 wins to gol
Let's go Pens!

by PensAreYourDaddy on Apr 17, 2010 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Especially after that first goal, I think I’m comfortable with the idea of not having Gonchar around next year. He should have attacked much sooner to Regin, then that goal wouldn’t have happened. And he was close to doing the same thing again throughout the game, I was holding my breath every time I saw him on D.

"Half the game is mental, the other half is being mental." - Jim McKenny

by AlexStitch on Apr 17, 2010 2:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Great write up Justin.

by jevans on Apr 17, 2010 7:44 AM EDT reply actions  

I second that. Especially this:

and a Rob Scuderi-like bid for Vezina

Dare I say play of the game. Even bigger than the game winner by Letang. Crosby is king.

15 wins to gol
Let's go Pens!

by PensAreYourDaddy on Apr 17, 2010 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Crosby was unreal!

You have to see it for yourself...

by Bla Razor on Apr 17, 2010 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m pretty sure if an “ovechkin is by far the best player in the world” fan watched that pens game last night it should have shut them up. OV dosen’t do anything close to what Sid did in that game.

by JasonGoPens on Apr 17, 2010 9:20 AM EDT reply actions  

Agree, Sid had a historic performance the only thing he did not do was to score short handed or run the Zamboni between periods, what a great show. I can’t believe the people who say OV is a better player. He is a great player, but he is not better than Sid. If you don’t believe it, just watch the video of the winning goal by Montreal in OT, how OV let Plekanec go by him. Sid was fantastic once again.

by Outcast on Apr 17, 2010 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Great game from the Pens last night

They controlled pretty much the entire game. Also nice to see playoff goaltending from both goalies in this one.

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by DarrenM on Apr 17, 2010 11:30 AM EDT reply actions  

So Proud!!

I am SO PROUD of Kris Letang., I think my calling him blind ass a few times and saying get your eyes checked while screaming at the t.v., told him to work hard and shoot, shoot, shoot at practice. Then he gets the game winning goal. My favorite player, oh how I knew you would come through.

by vickiep4 on Apr 17, 2010 12:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh trust me (us), you’re not the only one.

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by FrankD on Apr 17, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

In regard to the Kasper and Lindros thing, height doesn’t seem to matter, at least in the rules (only to NJ Fans). Kasper as a Penguin was flagged many times for hip checking Lindros because Lindros was so tall. Kasper would hit him in the upper legs without going low a got a penalty for tripping.
AS far as Ovie, if you watch him on the ice, unless he is the one carrying the puck, he rarely goes behind the goal line. He just waits near the circle for the play to come to him. And Esposito got the nickname of Cherry-Picker!?"

by John Carter on Apr 17, 2010 2:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Keep It Coming!

Now THAT was Penguin hockey that we’ve gotten used to (and expect) over the past several seasons. I know it’s easier said than done, but keep it coming!

by Stanley Cupp on Apr 17, 2010 2:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Uh....

Everything is sooo… italics! Haha.

I did think the hit on Leopold was clean, just very unfortunate.
I got to watch the game for once and it was awesome.
Love Crosby (as always).

Now onto game 3.

Game 3!!!

by AppleSweetRose on Apr 17, 2010 4:17 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m glad you mentioned the italics. I thought it was just me.

15 wins to gol
Let's go Pens!

by PensAreYourDaddy on Apr 17, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha … me too!

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by PopRocks on Apr 17, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I put a support request in for the techies to take a look at that for me. Not really sure what’s going on here.

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by FrankD on Apr 17, 2010 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, it kinda makes it look like everyone’s comments are very important, so…kinda cool?

STAAL FOR SELKE. SIDNEY FOR EVERY OTHER ONE.

by katielynn906 on Apr 17, 2010 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hooks Orpik!

If you’re out there, I just wanted to apologize for not coming by to see you. I totally meant to drop in on B17 at some point, but with the rain, waiting 45 minutes for the doors to open, then going into covert ops mode to get some signs up behind the bench, not to mention the exciting as hell game we were treated to, it just slipped my mind. I hope to catch you later in the playoffs.

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Let's go Pens!

by PensAreYourDaddy on Apr 17, 2010 7:55 PM EDT reply actions  

I like the Kriss Kross Reference good job Justin.

by jevans on Apr 19, 2010 10:16 AM EDT reply actions  

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