The Knitting Lady tells her story
by PensAreYourDaddy on Apr 17, 2010 2:22 PM EDT
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Dear fellow Pensburghers,
I was sort of "outed" today by PensFan024 as the husband of the lady you may have seen knitting at Pens games over the last year or so. Yes, I am Mr. Knitting Lady, or maybe she is Mrs. PensAreYourDaddy. Either way, she is my awesome wife, Michelle. She knits, she loves hockey, she loves the Pens and she loves knitting at the games.
After a recent game against the Flyers, local blogger Virginia Montanez (aka PittGirl) spotted a photo of us behind the visitor's bench. Michelle is holding my sign (and the sock she was knitting), and Ginny was wondering what the heck that sign meant. She tweeted her question and got back the answer, but more than that she got back numerous responses of "hey, that's the Knitting Lady!". She was a little perplexed by this, and set out to find out more about this mysterious Penguins fan.
Ginny's search led her to write a piece in her weekly blog for Pittsburgh Magazine's website. The link is here, in case anyone is interested in reading it: Five Questions for...Michelle, the Knitting Lady.
Read more after the jump.
In a recent game thread, I took a few commenters to task for remarks they had made about someone knitting at a hockey game. Curious from this experience, I looked back at some past game threads for similar comments and I found other cases of folks questioning why on Earth someone would pay good money for a ticket to a hockey game only to spend their time knitting. That question is answered in PittGirl's story.
I realize that in the game threads it is natural to comment about all aspects of the game you are watching, including the fans at the arena. I think in this case there may have been a tendency to make assumptions about the fan in question, but overall the things that were said were relatively harmless. Believe me, we have seen MUCH worse on other blogs. My goal here is to provide some information that might allow folks to form a more educated opinion on this particular subject.
Thanks for your time and enjoy the rest of the playoffs.
LET'S GO PENS!!!
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As a bonus, here is a link to a story on goaltending great Jacques Plante and his own connection to knitting.
Jacques, like many goalies of his day, was a little bit “off.” He was aloof among many of his teammates and the public in general. Like many goalies he had an odd habit. His was a fascination for knitting. While traveling on trains or while sitting in the dressing room, he’d knit every thing from underwear to toques. Some said he did it because the concentration required kept his mind off of hockey. Others said he did it to save money for his family.
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Let's go Pens!
by PensAreYourDaddy on Apr 17, 2010 2:38 AM EDT reply actions
Haha I love how that quote only further confirms my speculation that all goaltenders are a bit “off.” Although I wouldn’t think knitting is all that odd of a habit. My mother, sister, grandmother all do it.
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Frank, somewhat off-topic, I have seen a number of comments from folks who liked the post or liked the article, and yet it sits here with 0 recs. I don’t mean to sound self serving, like “please rec my post!”, but I see it with lots of very deserving posts from other members. Why, if you know, are Pensburghers so stingy with the recs?
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by PensAreYourDaddy on Apr 17, 2010 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m convinced many just don’t know HOW to do it…all this new-fangled techno-ma-ology thinger-ma-jigs.
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I like it. Bill Guerin’s uppercut is so awesome it wins fights he’s not even in.
- OlenWhitaker
"...as a matter of law, the house is haunted."
- Judge Rubin, New York Supreme Court, Appellate Division
Stambovsky v. Ackley, 572 N.Y.S. 2d 672
by Hockey Beard in SLC on Apr 17, 2010 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions
It really gets me more in threads where fans of other teams will come in and make comments, then I can only assume other fans of that team rec the comments, and it looks like the only people saying anything worth reading are the ones rooting against our team. Don’t get me wrong, some of those other guys make good points, but I’m sure we Pens fans have our fair share of logical and well thought out posts, too.
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Let's go Pens!
by PensAreYourDaddy on Apr 17, 2010 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions
You would think, unless Pensburgh is just like the clown-car of SBNation…
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I like it. Bill Guerin’s uppercut is so awesome it wins fights he’s not even in.
- OlenWhitaker
"...as a matter of law, the house is haunted."
- Judge Rubin, New York Supreme Court, Appellate Division
Stambovsky v. Ackley, 572 N.Y.S. 2d 672
by Hockey Beard in SLC on Apr 17, 2010 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I actually like the stinginess. It makes it so that it actually means something. On other blogs, there are so many rec’s that it seems like they don’t matter. I fancy our crowd is a bit more high-brow than most and I see no reason to throw our accolades around rashly.
Why are there so many ostriches?
by OlenWhitaker on Apr 17, 2010 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
We need to rec more posts
Almost all of the post pensburghers put up usually mean something. Unlike blogabull, there are a lot fewer fanposts which indicates that either you guys actually think carefully about what you guys put up or you’re just lazy :P
It’s not as if the posts are rehashing common ideas or throwing up stupid trade ideas or rumors.
We should rec good posts so they float to the top and flag idiots. This community is definitely robust enough to support this.
by Alighieri on Apr 17, 2010 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ya man, I don’t even know what the hell is a rec’d is or whatever? I tried googling it and it said it meant received. I’m stupid.
"Half the game is mental, the other half is being mental." - Jim McKenny
under every post are several buttons, one is “actions” if you click it, two more pop up “rec” and “flag”.
Rec is short for recommended.
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I like it. Bill Guerin’s uppercut is so awesome it wins fights he’s not even in.
- OlenWhitaker
"...as a matter of law, the house is haunted."
- Judge Rubin, New York Supreme Court, Appellate Division
Stambovsky v. Ackley, 572 N.Y.S. 2d 672
by Hockey Beard in SLC on Apr 18, 2010 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I guess I need to toss up another “How-to” post as a refresher. I’ve done it before in the past so I think we could probably all use another installment.
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Riddle Me This
Suppose I ‘rec’ a post.
Then the ‘rec’ counter goes up by one. And if a comment gets 3+ recs it seems to turn green (with envy, I can only assume).
What other consequences are there for a rec’d comment/post?
i.e. Does it go to the top of some list somewhere, or get tweeted or something — so that other people are more likely to read it?
That’s what I’d like to know.
Leafs fan living large in the Pitt and pretending like the drought is over. Go Pens!
A rec-ed post turns green to make it easier to see, really nice when there are hundreds of comments. That’s it.
A rec-ed fanshot or fanpost though tags it and makes it go in the top of the website sidebar for a little while.
Proud member of the Popsicle Division of the Cupcake Conference.
Sorry I didn’t respond sooner, but Bman hit it right on the head. Your fanpost will not sit above the rest of them for (I think) two weeks now. I’m not entirely sure what the length of that is, but it won’t be disappearing off the top anytime soon.
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Supposed to read: “Your fanpost will NOW sit above the rest of them…”
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Great Plante quote:
“Goalies have no friends.”
"Half the game is mental, the other half is being mental." - Jim McKenny
And I’d also like to say, that was a great article. I’m sorry you guys got so much heat on other sites for it. I hope the same can’t be said of this site. If that’s the case, I do apologize on behalf of everyone.
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Thanks, Frank. The stuff on this site was, like I said, pretty harmless. I like and respect everyone on here, except maybe Alex…not sure about him, but that probably stems from a natural distrust that we Arizonans have for people from California ;-)
What I especially like is that everyone is pretty open to the ideas and opinions of others, and I appreciate all of you considering our point of view on this situation. Your comments have been very kind.
I also didn’t intend to derail discussion from the more important matters at hand (like the playoffs!), but with the article coming out I thought it was a good time to bring it up. And if it had ever entered my mind that this might make the front page, I probably wouldn’t have written it at 3 o’clock this morning. I’m lucky I managed to put together even a mildly coherent thought!
15 wins to gol
Let's go Pens!
by PensAreYourDaddy on Apr 17, 2010 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey!
My birth certificate proudly reads “The Great Commonwealth of Pennsylvania” and I also own a hunting license that reads the same. These hippies out here don’t understand the importance of hunting. I hate it out here too, but please don’t lump me in as a “Californian.” I just shuddered.
If you must know, my Dad got a good opportunity out here and he of course jumped on it. That’s why I’m lost out in the West.
"Half the game is mental, the other half is being mental." - Jim McKenny
Well, it made you an easy target. I think I knew you weren’t actually “from” Cali, but couldn’t be sure how much it had rubbed off on you.
15 wins to gol
Let's go Pens!
by PensAreYourDaddy on Apr 17, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
In high school and most of college I did enjoy it here, but now I’m sick of it and I think it’s part wanting to know where I’m from (I moved when I was 12) and part growing up and wanting to prove myself and experience something new/ an adventure.
"Half the game is mental, the other half is being mental." - Jim McKenny
Alas, how readily we make sport of those we do not know. And, how embarrassing it is to then discover the humanity behind what had been an anonymous stranger. I said nothing derisive of ‘the knitting lady’ but I stood idly by while it happened even though I knew the criticism was ill-founded. My grandmother used to knit all the time (and I do mean all the time) and scarcely ever needed to look at what she was doing. I almost spoke up, but said nothing because it is only too easy to trivialize strangers and to pretend that there is not a real person behind their unfamiliar face.
PensAreYourDaddy, looking back at the thread, you displayed great restraint. Under similar circumstances I would have probably said something like “F#$% you! That’s my wife, asshole!” Instead you stood up for your wife without breaking decorum and you are to be commended for it. For my part, I apologize for my silence. I hope that we have all learned a lesson from this and will henceforth reserve our scorn and derision for where it truly belongs: Flyers fans.
Why are there so many ostriches?
by OlenWhitaker on Apr 17, 2010 11:15 AM EDT reply actions 5 recs
Unfortunately, people can get much too brave when they’re behind a computer monitor and keyboard. I hate it; hate it more when I do it.
Rec’d because of how you ended this!
"Darling, you say Brooks Orpik 'checked' that guy. He did not 'get under him and put him into the wall'."--Beloved to me, Winter 2007
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by GreenEyedLilo on Apr 17, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I brew my own beer during games.
Because I live in Pittsburgh and attend Pittsburgh games.
"Half the game is mental, the other half is being mental." - Jim McKenny
by AlexStitch on Apr 17, 2010 2:32 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Picking on MAF
I cannot believe that fans at the arena where mocking Fleury last night. What level of hockey knowledge do you have. Yes, I’ll be the first one to say he had a bad game one by his standards. The Sens goal deflected of Sergei stick and became"the perfect shot". Fleury would’ve had that shot a) if he had a clear view of it and b) without the deflection. In any case you do not mock your own goalie, that not only got you a Stanley cup, but got you to the finals the year before, and got you to the playoffs this year. MAF is in the elite group of goalies in the NHL, besides last night of all nights, his backup was a young kid. What was the use of mocking him, was Blysma going to pull him out?,was it going to improve his play?.No, the whole thing was utterly ridiculous, MAF has to feel that the fans stand by him, just like his teammates, at least in our building. He does not need anyone to defend his record. This is not futbol, and he is not the QB people.
> He does not need anyone to defend his record.
and yet, here you are..
Why don’t you just let other fans do what they feel they have to do?
I’m not a big MAF fan, in fact I feel he is horribly over-rated, but I also wouldn’t have been mocking him. Maybe booing, especially since the “deflection” of last nights goal, was so small I couldn’t even see it. Having said that, people at the games have paid good money to see the game and are entitled to be a “fan” in whatever way they want.
My mother knitted all the time and it didn’t take any concentration on her part. She’d be watching TV, holding conversations etc and never missing a pearl,plain whatever. I don’t see why anybody would have a problem with someone knitting. The ones I object to, are the group of female I sat next too that just yacked at each other the whole game without ever watching what was going on. Now, I know they paid their money, but it just distracted everybody around them, and that I object to. I don’t want to be hearing about their shopping trips in the middle of a game.
wow!
I had never heard of the Knitting Lady before, but that is a great story… really great.
All out respect to the kind of fans you and your wife are!
You have to see it for yourself...
too cool. can she make me a scarf? i’ve always wanted a knitted scarf. it would have been made at pens games. most legit scarf ever. i kid, i kid, she doesn’t have to make me one. =)
STAAL FOR SELKE. SIDNEY FOR EVERY OTHER ONE.
She mentioned that if you stop coveting her tickets and pay for the yarn, then maybe…
15 wins to gol
Let's go Pens!
by PensAreYourDaddy on Apr 17, 2010 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions
i can do the latter, not the former. alas.
STAAL FOR SELKE. SIDNEY FOR EVERY OTHER ONE.
by katielynn906 on Apr 17, 2010 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I think I may have heard of this Knitting Lady once or twice before, I never paid much attention to be quite honest.
This is a great article.
Thank you for sharking :)
I really should call you PensDaddy, just because PensAreYourDaddy is too long to type! :/ haha
And AppleSweetRose is a short name? :-)
Feel free to call me PAYD, or Mike, or my street name – P-Daddy!
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by PensAreYourDaddy on Apr 17, 2010 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Since she’s been discussed so much, and sometimes in unflattering terms, I’m glad Michelle got that platform to speak for herself. Frankly, I think Pensblog has its moments of fun but is unnecessarily cruel, so I only occasionally lurk. I have to say I’m a little disappointed, though. I really hoped she was like Pittsburgh’s own answer to Madame Defarge. Like, she could be at Game 5, knitting a coded message about Andy Sutton for the Penguins, and Mike Rupp would take a quick glance at the sock and give the Knitting Lady a slight nod, knowing what he must do…
Just to let Michelle (and you) know my reaction, at first I thought, “Knitting, with those great tickets? I wonder if she was drug there. I’d take that seat!” Then I noticed that she was watching the game, and just shrugged. As Michelle notes, there are so many behaviors that fans more commonly do that are so much more annoying to others. I’m glad she’s most definitely not being “drug there”!
Thank you for posting this. It is a very good reminder that when we judge someone we see on TV or whatever, they’re a real person with real feelings like anyone else. Maybe it’ll make someone think.
"Darling, you say Brooks Orpik 'checked' that guy. He did not 'get under him and put him into the wall'."--Beloved to me, Winter 2007
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by GreenEyedLilo on Apr 17, 2010 4:34 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
this.
STAAL FOR SELKE. SIDNEY FOR EVERY OTHER ONE.
by katielynn906 on Apr 17, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I do agree that the Pensblog tends to be very cruel, unnecessarily so at times in their jokes.
That goes with the territory though and I’m an avid reader of their blog.
I can’t remember seeing a post about Michele before, but it wouldn’t surprise me.
Thank you for posting this. It is a very good reminder that when we judge someone we see on TV or whatever, they’re a real person with real feelings like anyone else. Maybe it’ll make someone think.
I second this.
by AppleSweetRose on Apr 17, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions
The posts were part of game recaps where Michelle had been seen knitting, particularly after one of the rare losses that we have seen (and I do mean RARE, like the Pens are 43-14-12 in games we have attended over the last 3 years…we’re so lucky!).
I am also a reader of the Pensblog, and I throw up the occasional post or pic or whatnot. I don’t like everything that I see over there, but they do some pretty funny stuff.
15 wins to gol
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by PensAreYourDaddy on Apr 17, 2010 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I put it right up their with biting my nails and cracking my knuckles. Both can be done while watching the game, but knitting is obviously a far more productive habit.
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I only think you’re crazy for driving to and from Maryland. You guys are Road Warriors.
"Half the game is mental, the other half is being mental." - Jim McKenny
You know it. I think I could drive the turnpike drunk and blindfolded at this point.
15 wins to gol
Let's go Pens!
by PensAreYourDaddy on Apr 17, 2010 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Um … please don’t …
Leafs fan living large in the Pitt and pretending like the drought is over. Go Pens!
killjoy
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by PensAreYourDaddy on Apr 17, 2010 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
LIVE ON THE EDGE
STAAL FOR SELKE. SIDNEY FOR EVERY OTHER ONE.
by katielynn906 on Apr 17, 2010 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I know. I am totally here to kill the fun.
But … you know … it’s not like I’m urging you to take unnecessary risks or anything … to ‘live on the edge’, one might say …
Leafs fan living large in the Pitt and pretending like the drought is over. Go Pens!
i see you there with your new shiny avatar trying to tear down my credibility and everything, i see you.
STAAL FOR SELKE. SIDNEY FOR EVERY OTHER ONE.
by katielynn906 on Apr 17, 2010 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
That doesn’t mean you’re safe :)
Leafs fan living large in the Pitt and pretending like the drought is over. Go Pens!
Btw, I have no idea why I pick on you the way I do. I think you might be the little sister I never had.
Regardless, I know a willing victim when I find one.
And my avatar is shiny!
Leafs fan living large in the Pitt and pretending like the drought is over. Go Pens!
d’awwwwwwwwwwwwww. well, it is okay. i love it. it makes me laugh a lot. maybe i am a masochist? either way, it makes me laugh and i don’t mind one lick. =)
is your avatar in the museum of modern art? if not, i’d like to put it in there. probably next to van gogh’s starry night.
STAAL FOR SELKE. SIDNEY FOR EVERY OTHER ONE.
by katielynn906 on Apr 17, 2010 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Heh … I stole my pic from the strangest place. But since we’re commenting on a hockey post about arts & crafts, I suppose it’s kind of relevant:
http://apexembdesigns.com/hockey-boy-embroidery-design
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this should not be making me laugh as much as it is.
STAAL FOR SELKE. SIDNEY FOR EVERY OTHER ONE.
by katielynn906 on Apr 17, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Kudos to Pens are your Daddy and his wife Michelle. You two are die-hard fans. I did see the earlier posts and comments about “the knitting lady” and thought, so what. Nice to see the true underlying story. I wish my husband and I could see the Pens as often as you. We are stuck in Red Wings Hell (metro Detroit) and don’t have the budget to attend more than twice per year.
Goalie change already. Panic button move?
15 wins to gol
Let's go Pens!
by PensAreYourDaddy on Apr 17, 2010 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions
they already pulled theodore? that isn’t gonna do much for his confidence. ever since this past summer, i just want to give him a hug whenever i hear his name.
STAAL FOR SELKE. SIDNEY FOR EVERY OTHER ONE.
by katielynn906 on Apr 17, 2010 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe it sparked the team – Laich scored to make it 2-1.
15 wins to gol
Let's go Pens!
by PensAreYourDaddy on Apr 17, 2010 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Great D by Greenie on that last Habs’ goal.
15 wins to gol
Let's go Pens!
by PensAreYourDaddy on Apr 17, 2010 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
The one positive thing you can say about the Caps is that they know how to not give up. The Pens don’t quit when they’re down, but they don’t try as hard as the Caps. That’s how many times the Caps have come back from being down 2 or more goals?
"Half the game is mental, the other half is being mental." - Jim McKenny
Come on Montreal, you could have at least worn them down a bit.
15 wins to gol
Let's go Pens!
by PensAreYourDaddy on Apr 17, 2010 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Fitzplskdafaekl.
I really wish the Caps had lost!
Leafs fan living large in the Pitt and pretending like the drought is over. Go Pens!
Hey Washington Capitals, you didn’t just win the Stanley Cup. It’s the first round.
They were celebrating like that because they know they’re in trouble and that they got lucky this time.
"Half the game is mental, the other half is being mental." - Jim McKenny
Something I liked about the end of the Pens game yesterday was the slightly subdued celebration from the Pens. They knew they needed to win, and they were glad they did, but they also know they have a lot of work ahead of them. That, perhaps, is the “experience” everyone keeps talking about finally showing through.
Leafs fan living large in the Pitt and pretending like the drought is over. Go Pens!
and because we’re classy like that.
can you tell i’m procrastinating on a paper?
STAAL FOR SELKE. SIDNEY FOR EVERY OTHER ONE.
by katielynn906 on Apr 17, 2010 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s okay. Your paper will write itself.
Just like my dissertation.
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it’s pathetic if for no other reason than this paper is about jude law. like, this is the easiest paper i’ve had to write in 6 years and i’m like “CAPSCAPSHABSHABSWHATISGOINGON”. this paper should have been done like six hours ago. oh well. and can you tell me how to tell my paper to do that?
STAAL FOR SELKE. SIDNEY FOR EVERY OTHER ONE.
by katielynn906 on Apr 17, 2010 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Do not try and write the paper. That’s impossible. Instead… only try to realize the truth.
There is no paper.
Then you’ll see, that it is not the spoon that bends, it is only yourself.
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Is that what pre-law is like? Write papers about random people with the last name Law?
Do Vern Law next.
IF ONLY. it’s for shakespeare. we had to go see a production and write a review on it. i had seen him in hamlet last semester, so bam. paper. except it ended up being mostly “and jude law is pretty attractive and he was nice to me so i liked it.” clearly you wanted to know ALL OF THIS.
STAAL FOR SELKE. SIDNEY FOR EVERY OTHER ONE.
by katielynn906 on Apr 18, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
True. The Caps celebration reminded me of the last time they won a playoff OT game, and we all remember what they did the game after that.
15 wins to gol
Let's go Pens!
by PensAreYourDaddy on Apr 17, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
gotdang it, montreal, i trust you with ONE THING, just to do well in the ot, and you let me down.
STAAL FOR SELKE. SIDNEY FOR EVERY OTHER ONE.
by katielynn906 on Apr 17, 2010 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Someone in the Pens org need to get PensAreYourDaddy
and the Knitting lady some season tickets…
goodness knows you guys deserve it more than most fans in the building I’ve seen…
That’s not a bad idea. Or just have season tickets for everyone. If you come to town you have a shot at tickets; if you live in Pitt, you can rotate them or donate them to people.
"Half the game is mental, the other half is being mental." - Jim McKenny
I was actually thinking of how the Pens org could milk the PR outta this
Sorry… Media type here. You show me a feel good story like this and I starting thinking PR and money…
Maybe there could be a centralized forum for season ticket holders to give out tickets of games that they are missing to out-of-towners… Is there something like this already?
I just rec'd this shit
“Wrecked em- damn near killed em!”
"Half the game is mental, the other half is being mental." - Jim McKenny
you rec’n sonofabitch!
15 wins to gol
Let's go Pens!
by PensAreYourDaddy on Apr 18, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
More from PittGirl
I felt like my post needed its 100th comment.
PittGirl, who had the idea for the Q&A with my wife, attended her first Pens game in 20 years this past Friday. She wrote a about the experience on her blog, That’s Church. It’s something to read duing the interminable 5+ hour wait for tonight’s game.
14 wins to gol
Let's go Pens!
by PensAreYourDaddy on Apr 20, 2010 1:38 PM EDT reply actions
never go against a knitting grandma.
I'm all about covering the spread and moneylines. I was building a house, I don't deserve this, deserves have nothing to do with it. Bang. "Unforgiven" I drink your milkshake. I drink it up! "There Will BE Blood". Hell is just a word, the reality is much much worse." Event Horizon". Now remember, when things look bad and it looks like you're not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean, I mean plumb, mad dog mean. cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live or win. That's just the way it is. "The Outlaw Josey Wales".
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