Update: Jordan Staal has surgery on foot, NOT necessarily out for season
by Hooks Orpik on May 1, 2010 11:06 AM EDT
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RDS reports Staal done for season after tendon surgery
This morning, RDS (A French Canadian media outlet) reported that Jordan Staal had foot surgery and would miss the rest of the playoffs. Several other outlets jumped on that, including TSN (RDS' English partner) who even said:
Staal underwent surgery Friday night to repair a severed tendon in his ankle and will be out for the remainder of the playoffs. It is the same injury that caused Andrei Markov to miss 35 games at the beginning of the season.
However it seems these initial reports jumped the gun a little. TSN backed off the "out for playoffs" portion of the story when Bob McKenzie tweeted:
J Staal not necessarily out for playoffs. Had surgery to repair foot tendon that runs to toe, but could be back next round if not sooner
McKenzie's info came out just before Dan Bylsma adressed the media and said:
"[Staal had] surgery to repair a lacerated tendon in his foot....As far as a time frame goes we will not put a time frame on it at this point," Bylsma said. "But he has not been ruled out for a return."
You can never take a coach's word come injuries in playoffs, but had Staal's condition required season ending surgery, there's no reason NOT to announce that, and no reason to think the Penguins wouldn't do so.
Below is some of the original text talking about how big of a blow it'll be to lose Staal, without knowing how long that may be.
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Jordan Staal is a 3rd lne center, but not many 3rd line centers play 19-20 minutes a night and end up as a team's third highest scoring forward. Throw in a deserved Selke nomination as a dominant defensive positionally on the PK and it only increases his value. On top of all of that, there's durability. Staal's played 383 of a possible 384 games since he turned pro in October 2006. Aside from Robert Downey Jr. you'd be hard-pressed to find a better modern day Iron Man.
The Pens will have a lot of options in replacement: Maxime Talbot is a natural center and playing his best hockey of the season. Mark Letestu looked good in the NHL in a brief cameo. Craig Adams is a clutch playoff player that could pick up a little (but not all) of the slack too.
The Pittsburgh Penguins have taken long playoff runs based off their unmatched strength down the middle. Without Jordan Staal, they'll lose that unique advantage.
So who knows...All that's sure is Staal had surgery, is out for a while. How long that will be remains to be seen...Stay tuned.
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What?! You can’t just tease us with such a horrible prospect and then leave us hanging with no firm information! Egad!
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I reckon he’s just trying to get the info straight
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Yeah, I know. It’s just a rude shock to wake up to a headline like that.
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by OlenWhitaker on May 1, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah sorry, just wanted to throw a headline up so me and Frank or Justin don’t end up doing the same work at the same time.
"Don't matter who did what to who at this point. Fact is, we went to war and there ain't no turnin' back. I mean, s---, it's what war is, you know? Once you in it, you in it. If it's a lie, then we fight on that lie. But we gotta fight."
I 2nd that!!! Are you trying to start a panic, Hooks??
Please, please, say it ain’t so!
by LastSonOfKrypton on May 1, 2010 11:12 AM EDT reply actions
It’s true, he had surgery for a severed tendon last night and will be gone for the rest of the season. This is horrible, I can’t imagine getting past a Western Conference team without Staal.
"Those goals just rip the heart right out of your stomach." - Edzo
He already had surgery on it last night. They’re saying it’s the same injury that Andrei Markov had at the beginning of this season.
by c0nquistad0rian on May 1, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Damn.
Well, not to sound cold/rude, but time for someone else to step up their game in his place. Who’s it gonna be?
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I think that this means that we’re going to see Max Talbot having to step up and play a defensive role as a center rather than an energy role as a winger on Malkin’s line. I hope that this means that Kennedy’s ready to come back.
by c0nquistad0rian on May 1, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Getting TK back would help ease the blow a bit.
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by OlenWhitaker on May 1, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Thing is, I don’t know if Talbot’s suited for the role of playing against the other team’s best players. Size, positioning, decision making, he’s a big dropoff from Staal.
But there really aren’t many options.
"Don't matter who did what to who at this point. Fact is, we went to war and there ain't no turnin' back. I mean, s---, it's what war is, you know? Once you in it, you in it. If it's a lie, then we fight on that lie. But we gotta fight."
Just a thought: Rupp has the size, he’s taken his offense to new places this year. Could he handle the defensive responsibilities?
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by OlenWhitaker on May 1, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
I like this thought….Rupp would fill Staalsy’s role as good as anyone, IMO.
by LastSonOfKrypton on May 1, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
I like Rupp as much as anyone, but I don’t think he has the skating or endurance to consistently play that role at even strength.
"Don't matter who did what to who at this point. Fact is, we went to war and there ain't no turnin' back. I mean, s---, it's what war is, you know? Once you in it, you in it. If it's a lie, then we fight on that lie. But we gotta fight."
You’re probably right about the skating, but I don’t see a lot of options here. Maybe Rupp and Talbot switch off? Try to get the best of both worlds? In any case, I wouldn’t want to be Dan Bylsma right about now.
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by OlenWhitaker on May 1, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
I guess use Talbot, and maybe even Letestu and Adams.
The Pens can’t just 1-to-1 replace Staal. It’ll have to be a fluid situation where a lot of guys take turns and step it up.
"Don't matter who did what to who at this point. Fact is, we went to war and there ain't no turnin' back. I mean, s---, it's what war is, you know? Once you in it, you in it. If it's a lie, then we fight on that lie. But we gotta fight."
I don’t think that anyone player is going to be able to replace what Staal brings to the team with his combination of size, the minutes he plays, and the match ups he takes. It’s going to sound cliche, but it’s going to take a whole team effort, like last night’s game: scoring from the defense, an effective power play, scoring from unlikely sources, Crosby and Dupuis diving in tandem to block a shot in a third period 4 on 4 situation. Fleury’s going to have to step it up and not only make the clutch saves at the end of the game but make those easy ones at the beginning of the game that he hasn’t been making. It’s going to be more important to play with a lead as opposed to playing catch up now.
by c0nquistad0rian on May 1, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, that’s the big question. Guess we’ll find out soon enough.
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by OlenWhitaker on May 1, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Markov was injured on the first game of the season and was originally expected to be out I think 4-6 months, with mid February being his target return date. He came back from the injury in about three and a half months, just before Christmas.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id=2055
This injury is a huge loss for the Penguins. But, I am glad that they did the surgery immediately. If the same time frame is given, Staal will have over four months to recover before training camp starts.
by c0nquistad0rian on May 1, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Noooooooooooo!! Things just got WAY tougher. ipenguins67 is right, getting past the Western Conference winner is going to be doubly tough now…
by LastSonOfKrypton on May 1, 2010 11:15 AM EDT reply actions
Definitely not the sort of news I wanted to see this morning
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We have a deep enough team to recover from this. But is still sucks. Letestu looked good with the 3rd line earlier in the year. I wonder if we’ll see him move into Staal’s spot.
11 wins to go!
Let's go Pens!
by PensAreYourDaddy on May 1, 2010 11:20 AM EDT reply actions
This sucks.
That said, of all our big three to lose, I think this is the one that’s least damaging. Losing Staal is a blow, but losing Sid or Geno would be playoff ending.
Agreed. As harsh as it sounds, Staal is still quasi-expendable. It will be harder to win without him, but not impossible. If it was Sid or Geno, I don’t know if we could take it all the way without them.
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by OlenWhitaker on May 1, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
So Talbot and Dupuis
Will get more time on the third line/PK’s and such. That leaves a top-6 position open. Dare I say Tangradi?
Poni-Malkin-Tangradi… A lot of size and skill.
I don’t think Tangradi’s ready just yet. He looked okay in his one-game stint, but let’s not throw the kid to the playoff wolves just yet, eh? Letestu is a decent third line center who got 10 games in this season while Malkin was out. He knows the system inside-out and isn’t a defensive liability.
And I think this means more Crosby on the PK, taking many of Staal’s shifts a man down.
I wonder if they will use Crosby on the PK more. I’m sure his time there will increase, but I don’t think it’s wise to make him a regular PK’er. For his energy’s sake and to avoid injury (I keep thinking of Datsyuk breaking a foot blocking a shot last playoffs).
Cooke, Dupuis, Talbot and Adams are good, smart players. I’m sure Crosby gets sprinkled in a little more, maybe Fedotenko gets a little more PK time too.
"Don't matter who did what to who at this point. Fact is, we went to war and there ain't no turnin' back. I mean, s---, it's what war is, you know? Once you in it, you in it. If it's a lie, then we fight on that lie. But we gotta fight."
Crosby actually has excellent PK numbers this season, for the 30s or so per game that he’s out there. He could actually step up there, but as you stated, the problem is he’s by far the most dangerous offensive player on the team right now. I guess it’ll depend on whether the biggest problem is scoring goals or killing penalties, eh?
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by Knee high to a duck on May 1, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed. Crosby’s good to give 21-23 minutes a night, do you want to use them on him killing penalties — where he’s less likely to create offense and probably more likely to get hurt than a normal situation — or do you continue to use him mainly at ES/PP?
It’s a grind and I would rather not use Crosby on those tough minutes, even though he can handle it. Maybe situationally I’d put him out there now and again, but I wouldn’t make him a regular.
IMO the Pens have enough positionally solid guys (Adams, Fedotenko, Cooke, Talbot, Dupuis) to carry most the weight. Of course, none of those guys are particularly accomplished at faceoffs (not that Staal is Rod Brind’Amour) but the center depth might push Sid out there more too.
"Don't matter who did what to who at this point. Fact is, we went to war and there ain't no turnin' back. I mean, s---, it's what war is, you know? Once you in it, you in it. If it's a lie, then we fight on that lie. But we gotta fight."
As I see it, Sid is going to be out there to win important faceoffs, even if it’s only a 15 second shift to win it back to the defender for a long clear. Again, this is dependent on how well the PK does: if it really struggles without Staal (Less likely if Markov is out for any length of time), Sid’s going to have to be out there. If they can keep him off the PK, it’s probably best.
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by Knee high to a duck on May 1, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I get what you are saying.
But Letestu is not a difference maker – Tangradi can be. I guess I trust his talents. The safer move is doing what you suggested. I guess I like the gamble. Sometimes, kids make their names in the playoffs.
Tangradi could do well, but it’s a lot to ask. 21 year old power fowards with 1 game of NHL experience don’t usually tear up the NHL playoffs.
Letestu’s no slam dunk himself, but he’s at least in a better position to be better: he’s 25, has been a point-per-game player now for 2 years in the AHL and Letestu has 10 NHL games and has generally looked well in all of them.
"Don't matter who did what to who at this point. Fact is, we went to war and there ain't no turnin' back. I mean, s---, it's what war is, you know? Once you in it, you in it. If it's a lie, then we fight on that lie. But we gotta fight."
More of a talent issue
Tangradi has the talent to be a difference maker. Letestu doesn’t. You guys are probably making the better suggestion. I guess mine is more shoot for the stars.
If anything, you could argue at this stage of their careers that Letestu is more talented than Tangradi, who is an amazing prospect but still raw, especially in his first few steps of his skating and pro experience.
"Don't matter who did what to who at this point. Fact is, we went to war and there ain't no turnin' back. I mean, s---, it's what war is, you know? Once you in it, you in it. If it's a lie, then we fight on that lie. But we gotta fight."
I guess we have different ideas about talent
Talent doesn’t equal better player. Letestu may be the better player right now, I’d argue Tangradi is more talented. He has a pretty high ceiling because of the combination of his talent/size.
Remember Kris Beech?
Tangradi is like Beech in the sense that he decides when to give his best effort. Letestu works hard every shift.
I think Tangradi suffers from the “Mario Lemieux syndrome” that just because a big man isn’t moving is feet fast people dog him for not hustling. When really he’s using his size to make longer strides and covers a lot more room.
"Don't matter who did what to who at this point. Fact is, we went to war and there ain't no turnin' back. I mean, s---, it's what war is, you know? Once you in it, you in it. If it's a lie, then we fight on that lie. But we gotta fight."
You could argue that since we’re up against a Habs team that’s short Markov, this could be less dire a form of wolves.
Better against them when we have a clear quality and depth advantage than against the Bruins or Wings.
by Alighieri on May 1, 2010 8:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It's Letestu time.
Loved the way he looked with Cooke/Kennedy while Geno was out and Staal was pulling second line duty. Mark, step up to the plate, brother.
That’s what I would do too.
Kunitz-Sid-Guerin
Poni-Malkin-Talbot
Cooke-Letestu-Dupuis
Rupp-Adams-Feds
With TK coming back soon, hopefully.
If Letestu falters, they can always scramble Talbot/Adams as 3C and maybe even look to play Tangradi. But I think Letestu deserves the first shot.
"Don't matter who did what to who at this point. Fact is, we went to war and there ain't no turnin' back. I mean, s---, it's what war is, you know? Once you in it, you in it. If it's a lie, then we fight on that lie. But we gotta fight."
practice line ups today:
Cooke-Crosby-Dupuis
Ponikarovsky-Malkin-Fedotenko
Rupp-Talbot-Kennedy
Conner-Adams-Letestu-Godard
Letang-Lovejoy
Leopold-Goligoski
McKee-Engelland
Let's go Pens!
I wouldn’t put too much thought into this. After all, Cooke will not be on Crosby’s wing. And we’re not seeing Guerin/Kunitz in those lines due likely to age and recent injury. Godard will not be playing unless there’s two more guys hitting the shelf.
If anything, it tells me that Bylsma’s getting Talbot ready for 3C duty if need be, and Letestu is getting in the swing for regular duty.
I wouldn’t put too much thought into this. After all, Cooke will not be on Crosby’s wing. And we’re not seeing Guerin/Kunitz in those lines due likely to age and recent injury. Godard will not be playing unless there’s two more guys hitting the shelf.
If anything, it tells me that Bylsma’s getting Talbot ready for 3C duty if need be, and Letestu is getting in the swing for regular duty.
Bingo.
Talbot would be my second choice for the third line, but I still think Talbot’s place in the lineup is digging pucks out and forechecking on Malkin’s wing.
If you go Talbot as the 3C, Dupuis moves up with Malkin/Ponikarovsky.
If Leopold comes back sooner than Kennedy, you might dress 7 D.
HOLD THE PHONE
Bylsma: Staal is not out for the remainder of the playoffs. Had a procedure to repair a cut.
"Don't matter who did what to who at this point. Fact is, we went to war and there ain't no turnin' back. I mean, s---, it's what war is, you know? Once you in it, you in it. If it's a lie, then we fight on that lie. But we gotta fight."
HUH?
So TSN just wants to see how many people would jump off the 10th street bridge on Saturday morning?
RDS (the French equiv. of TSN) started all of this….Maybe they had hope to fire people up?
It seems Staal did have a fairly serious surgery, but I don’t think it’s the same exact injury that Markov had.
"Don't matter who did what to who at this point. Fact is, we went to war and there ain't no turnin' back. I mean, s---, it's what war is, you know? Once you in it, you in it. If it's a lie, then we fight on that lie. But we gotta fight."
For all the times the news sources turn around and say blogs are unreliable, let me just say
Hah F’ing Hah
But will they own up to being wrong on the matter? No. It was “merely” a mistake in information.
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OH PRAISE THE LORD
STAAL FOR SELKE. SIDNEY FOR EVERY OTHER ONE.
by katielynn906 on May 1, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
He did have surgery, but it may not have been as drastic as reported.
"Don't matter who did what to who at this point. Fact is, we went to war and there ain't no turnin' back. I mean, s---, it's what war is, you know? Once you in it, you in it. If it's a lie, then we fight on that lie. But we gotta fight."
That sounds really, really optimistic to me, but I guess we’ll see.
"Don't matter who did what to who at this point. Fact is, we went to war and there ain't no turnin' back. I mean, s---, it's what war is, you know? Once you in it, you in it. If it's a lie, then we fight on that lie. But we gotta fight."
I’m thinking he won’t be good to go until next series, best case. It sounds like SC Finals is the likely case, should it go that far.
And of course, we already know what worst case scenario is…
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Elliot Freidman just tweeted that Staal is “day to day”. LET’S HOPE!!
Marcy
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Bylsma said he is “day to day”. There could be an amputation and Bylsma would classify him as day to day.
"Don't matter who did what to who at this point. Fact is, we went to war and there ain't no turnin' back. I mean, s---, it's what war is, you know? Once you in it, you in it. If it's a lie, then we fight on that lie. But we gotta fight."
by Hooks Orpik on May 1, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Curious to see if Friedman is going to delete those misinformed Tweets
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Amen. But I’m just happy that it’s only game 1 in the second round so Jordan’s gonna have some time to recover.
by Alighieri on May 1, 2010 8:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I hate to say this, because I really want to be positive, but I highly doubt that Jordan will be back after that surgery. Trying to rush him might be even worse than not having him.
See below: looks like it was a tendon, but not the achilles (injury Markov had).
I doubt they’ll rush him back, if he’s not 100% he’s not going to help anyways.
"Don't matter who did what to who at this point. Fact is, we went to war and there ain't no turnin' back. I mean, s---, it's what war is, you know? Once you in it, you in it. If it's a lie, then we fight on that lie. But we gotta fight."
If he had a severed tendon it could be anything, the report is not very specific, if he had a ruptured Achilles tendon( like Markov or like Bekham in soccer ) he is out for 3 months at least anything else could be day to day. NBC reported as an Achilles tendon . Hopefuly Blysma and Friedman are right. You can fill in foe Staal but you can’t really replace him. Other people will have to elevate their game.
A lot is swirling around, but I believe McKenzie (best in the biz) who said surgery was to repair cut to a tendon that runs to a toe.
From all intelligent reports, it is NOT an Achilles type injury.
"Don't matter who did what to who at this point. Fact is, we went to war and there ain't no turnin' back. I mean, s---, it's what war is, you know? Once you in it, you in it. If it's a lie, then we fight on that lie. But we gotta fight."
Wow, this is much better news
I left this morning feeling a little down at the prospect of losing Staalsy for the playoffs. I’m leaving for the night. If/when I sign back on tomorrow before leaving for the burgh, I hope to find out that we expect him back in the lineup for game 3 ;-)
11 wins to go!
Let's go Pens!
by PensAreYourDaddy on May 1, 2010 1:30 PM EDT reply actions
Malkin and lingering injuries
However long Staal is out, if the Penguins are going to advance, or compete against a Western Conference team, then a few players will need to step up.
Specifically, I am looking at Evgeni Malkin. He has looked okay this postseason, but not anywhere near the form of last year’s Conn Smythe effort. It appears that he is still fighting an injury, but I hope that he will step up his game in Staal’s absence.
I’d also like to see Talbot or Kennedy step up, as others have pointed out. Again, both have lingering injury concerns. Kennedy is still fighting his way back from a hit by Andy Sutton. Talbot is still clearing the rust from missing most of the regular season.
So I am concerned.
The Western Conference has clinched home-ice for the cup, and every Easter Conference team is significantly injured.
It is concerning. I think Malkin is playing well; 9 points in 7 games but he’s doing good work on the PP and more importantly not taking penalties.
Crosby’s obviously blowing the doors off everyone and I think is playing on a different level than anyone in the game right now. So maybe compared to that Malkin doesn’t look dominant, but I think he’s playing pretty solid right now.
"Don't matter who did what to who at this point. Fact is, we went to war and there ain't no turnin' back. I mean, s---, it's what war is, you know? Once you in it, you in it. If it's a lie, then we fight on that lie. But we gotta fight."
well, he took the first penalty of the game last night, and ended up with 0 points.
I know he’s not playing awful … and this echoes my sentiments in another thread about Kris Letang …. but Malkin could be playing better.
- - Malkin had an assist last night
- - He was on the ice for 3 power play goals for.
He could be playing better, but every single person could. No one is perfect.
"Don't matter who did what to who at this point. Fact is, we went to war and there ain't no turnin' back. I mean, s---, it's what war is, you know? Once you in it, you in it. If it's a lie, then we fight on that lie. But we gotta fight."
I can’t speak for others, but the worry as I see it is that Geno seems to be missing that beloved jump in his step — where you see him rev up his engine and realize that you are watching magic in the making.
Without that ‘spark’ (or whatever), it seems like something is missing from Geno’s game.
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I suppose so. I see him getting chances (like the breakaway), he’s just not finishing. No one scores each and every game.
Other than the Carolina series when he almost literally was unstoppable, I don’t think Malkin played any different last playoffs than he has been so far this time. Would it be better if he could play like that? Sure. But if it was that simple, don’t you think he would? :)
"Don't matter who did what to who at this point. Fact is, we went to war and there ain't no turnin' back. I mean, s---, it's what war is, you know? Once you in it, you in it. If it's a lie, then we fight on that lie. But we gotta fight."
ahhh, I see that he did end up with one secondary assist.
Here are is stats from yahoo:
0 goals, 1 assist, 1 (+/), 1 Shot, 2 Penalty Minutes
I know he’s not disappearing … but I guess I am just hopeful that he will elevate his game in Staal’s absence.
but I guess I am just hopeful that he will elevate his game in Staal’s absence.
To me, since Malkin’s not going to be killing penalties and he is producing points, so I think Geno just needs to keep on keeping on.
It’s guys like Talbot, Adams and eventually Kennedy that need to step it up (or rather keep their good playoff play going) to make up for no Staal.
But your point is reasonable, a rising tide raises all ships.
"Don't matter who did what to who at this point. Fact is, we went to war and there ain't no turnin' back. I mean, s---, it's what war is, you know? Once you in it, you in it. If it's a lie, then we fight on that lie. But we gotta fight."
Malkin didn’t exactly light it up until the conference finals last year. Until then he was on the same pace he is now.
Talbot’s been outstanding, aside from letting in that second goal last night.
by SlayerGhaleon on May 1, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Speculation is just going to make things worse, in my opinion. I look at it like he won’t be back and someone (or more likely someones) needs to step up. No one will replace Jordan Staal. But some player looking to get their name on Lord Stanley’s Cup and earn playoff immortality, not to mention a spot in the hearts of all Penguins fans forever, needs to ramp up their effort and try to replace the things the Pens are missing with Staal gone. In addition, there are plenty of Penguins who need to get ready.
I’m not suggesting Geno win the Conn Smythe again, but we know he’s capable of much more. He’s above a PPG average right now, but whether it was watching him last year or the out of this world pace of Sid this year, it seems Geno could do more. Though, if they keep getting PP opportunities and he keeps converting, you can’t fault his game too much. His winger, Alexei Ponikarovsky, needs to stop being given BOTD that “he’s still adjusting”. OK Alex, you’ve had a few months to “adjust”, now it’s time to play some gritty playoff hockey. If you’re going to chip in point-wise, great. If not, you need to step up other aspects of your game. TK and J.Leo need to come back in and contribute at the same levels, or higher, than they were. Finally, the Flower needs to ramp it up a bit as well. When Halak gets back to Monster Halak, the Pens aren’t going to pot 6 in a game. MAF can’t afford to put the Pens behind the 8-ball. There have been a few softies that he’s got to start getting a handle on to eliminate those kind of situations. He needs to raise the SV% and lower the GAA.
Good luck to Jordan. I hope he’s able to make it back for the playoffs, but if not, as long as he’s ready (to begin the Pens’ 2nd consecutive Cup defense) for the new season in tip-top shape, things are good.
From NHL.com staff writer. I forget which one.
“It is not an Achilles’ (injury) and he is not ruled out for the remainder of the playoffs. He had a procedure to repair a tendon from a cut on the top of his foot and he will be day-to-day from here on out. So, it is not an out for the remainder of the playoffs.” — Pens coach Dan Bylsma on Jordan Staal
Surgery to repair a cut surely must mean he’s not truly “day-to-day”, it’s not like he’ll play tomorrow.
Now it’ll be interesting to see what Markov’s situation is. He (unfortunately) might be done for the forseeable future.
"Don't matter who did what to who at this point. Fact is, we went to war and there ain't no turnin' back. I mean, s---, it's what war is, you know? Once you in it, you in it. If it's a lie, then we fight on that lie. But we gotta fight."
I really hope he (Markov) is not out. He’s an important part of the Habs’ team, and my preference is to see teams in the playoffs with their top competitors in the mix.
Regardless, all of this is going to make the series that much more interesting!
Leafs fan living large in the Pitt and pretending like the drought is over. Go Pens!
He might be able to play as soon as his woun is healed and he has no pain. I have no idea how much that tendon actually moves when he is on skates (i.e. the toe muscle). I imagine not much. Probably 5-7 days.
If it’s as simple as that, you’d have to think that’s the best case scenario.
But if it’s a part of the foot muscle you need when you rotate your foot around, it could be a little more tricky than that.
Of course, no one really knows except for the Pens and the doctors and they aint sayin much!
"Don't matter who did what to who at this point. Fact is, we went to war and there ain't no turnin' back. I mean, s---, it's what war is, you know? Once you in it, you in it. If it's a lie, then we fight on that lie. But we gotta fight."
This is good news to me.
Last night I feared a lot worse. Going by what’s DB and others are saying at this moment, it looks like Staal could be back this round or a little later…Honestly, that was the best I was hoping for last night.
Sigh* listening to Pierre McGuire talk about how Mike richards “gets it…he gets leadership.”
We’re tired of hearing your crap Pierre….sad we have to listen to him tomorrow, but amazing that it’ll be the first time (surprised we haven’t been on once or twice already).
I've told [a 9 months pregnant] Nathalie that she can't have the baby on a game night. I'm not missing a playoff game. -Mario Lemieux in 1993
Maybe Edzo can mention how he misses Jordan’s “active stick”.
"Don't matter who did what to who at this point. Fact is, we went to war and there ain't no turnin' back. I mean, s---, it's what war is, you know? Once you in it, you in it. If it's a lie, then we fight on that lie. But we gotta fight."
Jordan’s good active stick….just because it’s active, doesn’t mean it’s good….lol idk what I just said.
This game (Bos-Philly) is real good; Briere just had one of the prettiest garbage goals you will ever see to tie it up.
I've told [a 9 months pregnant] Nathalie that she can't have the baby on a game night. I'm not missing a playoff game. -Mario Lemieux in 1993
Was a real nice goal. Some skill and more importantly he stuck with it the whole way up.
I think Boston/Philly could be a very interesting 7 game series.
"Don't matter who did what to who at this point. Fact is, we went to war and there ain't no turnin' back. I mean, s---, it's what war is, you know? Once you in it, you in it. If it's a lie, then we fight on that lie. But we gotta fight."
What a great comeback by Savard…what a great story. Boucher was amazing, though. The stat sheet will say he gave up 5 goals, but he’s the reason Boston didn’t scored at the 30 second mark.
I really hop that that series is long and physical. It will only benefit the Pens (gotta get by the Habs first though).
I've told [a 9 months pregnant] Nathalie that she can't have the baby on a game night. I'm not missing a playoff game. -Mario Lemieux in 1993
I’ve pretty much written Jordan out of this series in my head. I think we’ll see him sometime in the next round but anytime this series will be a welcome bonus.
As to who takes his line spot, situationally, Letestu’s the best fit but everyone’s gonna have to pitch in.
In particular I’m looking at Geno. Sid’s already displayed a willingness to dig in defensively (blocking shots, kill penalties, dish hits) but If Geno can become just as focused on the D we’re going to get back some of defensive edge that we lost with Jordan.
Hopefully we can put the Habs away early and give Sid & Geno the rest they’re gonna need before the EC Finals after taking more time here. WCA for us is a long series with the two of them logging huge minutes and then not getting Jordan back for the bulk of the next round.
by Alighieri on May 1, 2010 8:41 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Ugh. Tough news.
Let’s hope that since he’s young, he’ll heal up quickly. Also, being young, hopefully it won’t affect his mobility in the future – especially if he’s trying to rush back.
"Defense! Defense! Common! Do you call that blowing!?"
Don’t want him to rush back…
Even if it takes him till Game 5 of the SCF itself, I’d rather have him rest it out than run a huge risk of getting hurt worse.
There’s something about playing through the pain barrier but it’s not like he’s Sid or Geno. We’ll have to work harder but we won’t fold and die.
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