Pensburgh wrapup: Kris Letang
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Season stats: 73 gp, 3g, 24a, 27p, +1, 51 PIMs
Playoff stats: 13 gp, 5g, 2a, 7p, -5, 6 PIMs
Month-by-month Pensburgh grades:
October: C+
November: I
December: C
January: B
February: B-
March: C-
Playoff: C+
Contract status: Signed through 2013-14 season ($3,500,000 cap hit)...Unrestricted free agent summer 2014
Interesting stat: This season, while in the lineup, Letang had 25 points (5g, 20a) and was a +22 in 49 games when the Penguins won the game. In 37 losses however, Letang had only 9 points (3g, 6a) and was a -26.
The Good: At just 23 years old, Letang's become a vital member of the Penguins defense: he saw a moderate ice-time bump from last year; 21:33 this season compared to 21:08 last, and he cashed in with a $3.5 million contract for the next for years. Lost in that is he played over a minute more per game at even strength and more short-handed too (he played less PP due to Gonchar being less injured).
Letang can skate. He can move the puck. He is surprisingly adequate in his own end when it comes to playing tough in the corners.
The Not-so-good: Consistency. Letang, for all his talents, hasn't proven to put it ALL together at the same time. Every shift for every game. And now for a guy who's going to get paid like a top player, he's going to need to play like one.
And for a guy who scored 10 regular season goals last season, he scored 3 this season, a major step back. Letang had 94 shots that officially missed the net, compared to 174 that were on target, which was by far the highest ratio of anyone on the team. Letang seemed to be trying to pick corners to hit, and unfortunately, he wasn't hitting them. Again, with more responsibility comes more expectations and that will have to change next season.
Final verdict: For a young defensemen, Letang still shows a lot of promise. He's got all he tools and this was another year to establish himself and continue to grow. Next season, potentially without defensive leader Sergei Gonchar will be another chance for Letang to grow and have the chance to shoulder more of the burden. He's good and continuing to get better.
Question and Discussion: If, as expected, Sergei Gonchar departs, can Kris Letang fill his void offensively? He's got all the offensive skill in the world, it's time to show it. On a team that only has a handful of defensemen signed for next year, Letang's going to be counted on to play 22+ minutes next season. Is he ready for it? Are you ready for it?
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I think next season the Pens will be expecting Letang the chip in offensively. While Gonch was here Letang wasnt relied on to score goals, now he will be. He struggled at times this past season no doubt, but the potential for Letang is unreal. I’m excited about the idea of him having a full season of playing on the PP. I think w/o Gonchar there he wont feel like he needs to default to gonch so much. He can step up and show what he can do. I’m not sure theres a player on the team that has as much untapped potential as Letang. I cant wait to see what he does next year.
Letang, like Fleury, was inconsistent throughout the entrie regular season. Although, he really did step it up a notch in the playoffs. He has every single tool imaginable, and he has a bit of an edge to his game. Time will tell if he has the mental makeup to get the most from his athletic ability. I am excited for next year though.
I think he will show much more consistency next year, though, at 23, he will still have some ups and downs I’m sure. I hope that a strong defensive minded forwarded is added to the line-up, as do we all. Letang and the team will learn from that and be that much better for it. I look forward to the promise I see in Letang. Even his mental make-up seems to be settling a bit, which is terrific since this is the area I worry most about with Letang. His skills are there, though.
Oh, and great choice of picture. I suspect KatieLynn and others will enjoy it :)
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by katielynn906 on May 28, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Pens Wrap-up - Kris Letang
I heard Dan Bylsma say on a radio show after Letang signed his contract say that there are not many players in the NHL that are up to the level of Kris Letang, but that he is young and he is inconsistent at times. I think he is one of the most underrated players on the Penguin team. Defense takes longer to learn, and don’t forget that Letang played his first NHL game as a teenager. (He scored in that game in October where it was the first time 3 teenagers scored: Crosby, Staal & Letang). Letang had a permanent NHL spot in November 2007 when he was just 20. Letang’s 5 playoff goals are one shy of the record set by Larry Murphy for defensemen. He has unique skills and hopefully, this year will put them all together on a more consistent basis. He is such a strong skater and also has a physical edge to his game that often gets overlooked. If Gonch leaves, Goligoski may run the power play, especially since Letang being a right-handed shot is better on the left point, but Letang will be looked at to step up his game to fill much of Gonch’s role.
by tmpens on May 28, 2010 8:12 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I think he is one of the most underrated players on the Penguin team.
Besides Staal, Tanger is the most underrated player on the Pens team. He takes a lot of crap from a lot of the fans, but I don’t think people realize just how young he is and just how good he is (not just for his age). Besides Gonch, he’s easily the best skating D man we have. Next year he more than likely will be the best skating D man we have. I know some people would disagree, and yeah he has his moments, but I like what Tanger does defensively as well. If he really works on his shooting accuracy and a few other things, that 3.5 mil price tag will look like an absolute steal.
I've told [a 9 months pregnant] Nathalie that she can't have the baby on a game night. I'm not missing a playoff game. -Mario Lemieux in 1993
by PensFan8725 on May 28, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Don't Forget
Letang also has some skill at shootouts. Though 4 for 10 this season wasn’t necessarily an incredible success ratio, we do rely on him in those cases. Hopefully, his shooting practice in the off-season will increase this area of performance as well.
Should have mentioned that. When I did my research I was surprised to see Letang at 40%, I thought he was better than that just from memory.
Not many defensemen participate in the shootout, especially shooting 1st like Letang usually does. It’s a great skill to have and he’s got some great moves.
by Hooks Orpik on May 28, 2010 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions
is 40% bad? I thought that’s pretty good. Not Crosby territory, but it strikes me as a pretty good result.
40% is pretty decent….In my mind I thought Letang was converting an even higher percentage though.
by Hooks Orpik on May 28, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Letang's Career Shootout Stats
Kris Letang PIT D
Home shots 10
Home goals 2
Home % 20
Home game deciding goals 2
Road shots 16
Road goals 9
Road % 56.2
Road game deciding goals 5
Total shots 26
Total goals 11
Total % 42.3
Total game deciding goals 7
Letang has scored more shootout goals than any other defenseman since the inception of the shootout (Jack Johnson is second with 9). Adrian Aucoin leads shooting percentage going 6 for 9 (66.7%).
From NHL.com
Wow. I know it’s a gimmick and everything, but that’s pretty impressive.
Jack Johnson surprised me with the 2nd most. If I would’ve had to take a guess as to who it was, I would’ve said Doughty all the way. I guess maybe some of Sid’s shootout prowess has rubbed off on him (they were buddies in high school).
I've told [a 9 months pregnant] Nathalie that she can't have the baby on a game night. I'm not missing a playoff game. -Mario Lemieux in 1993
by PensFan8725 on May 28, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Lol can we really expect any of the Pens (except that guy that we have to trade…well, that’s just what the guy who knows everything keeps telling me) to be in Crosby territory?
I've told [a 9 months pregnant] Nathalie that she can't have the baby on a game night. I'm not missing a playoff game. -Mario Lemieux in 1993
by PensFan8725 on May 28, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
40% is excellent!
its not a huge factor, but give credit to Letang, he’s damn good at SOs
i like him to have a big year next year
by Mario Lemieux #66 on May 28, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
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by Hooks Orpik on May 28, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions
I really don’t have anything to add to the comments or your assessment, but I love that you not only quoted Vanilla Ice today, but quoted Nietsche yesterday.
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by GreenEyedLilo on May 28, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Hah, yeah good point…Don’t want it to get too out of control.
by Hooks Orpik on May 28, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Letang is going to explode next year. He won’t have huge, Gonchar like offensive numbers, but he is going to turn into an offensive shutdown defensemen. He knows how to defend talented forwards, and he knows how to cover his position. He’ll start hitting the net more, too, but people what people will see next year is him turning into a solid defenseman.
after a post season watching him and Free Candy play shutdown pairing, I’m convinced that Tanger’s not going to be a tough shutdown defenseman.
At his current ability, I’m okay with him. He just needs to be consistent and not have any more concentration lapses like we saw against the Habs and we’re good.
I'm 21 now... I still feel 20 and I still feel way too old.
Just so I never have to answer this again. I'm from Singapore so whenever you see me online, I'm either sleep deprived or just waking up.
I think he could develop into a shut down type of defenseman if the Pens want him to be that. Lets not forget it took Scuderi years to develop into that role. Letang is starting off with way more talent than Scuderi. Hes not ideal to have in that type of role, but as of now hes either #1 or #2 heading into next year. He might have to be the shutdown guy and the offensive guy.
by genomachine-O on May 28, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
in other words, the complete game…
I know Tanger’s capable, that’s why he got the 3.5 million cap hit. But playing on a team like ours, he’s gonna need to grow up on the fly. For now, as long as he doesn’t make any more boneheaded mistakes on the D and starts to show signs he can take over Sarge full time on the offensive end, I’ll be very happy
I'm 21 now... I still feel 20 and I still feel way too old.
Just so I never have to answer this again. I'm from Singapore so whenever you see me online, I'm either sleep deprived or just waking up.
hes still young. Just because hes getting paid now, doesnt mean there wont be anymore boneheaded mistakes. that will still happen, just hopefully less often.
by genomachine-O on May 28, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
This. If I were a hockey player, I would never want to be a D man or a goalie. Goalies are just destined to fail at some point and D man, unless they’re terrific offensive guys, are always going to have moments where they’re heavily criticized for making a boneheaded play.
I think the only really thing we can hope for with Tanger is that he scores more goals and makes less mistakes. That sounds reasonable enough to me.
I've told [a 9 months pregnant] Nathalie that she can't have the baby on a game night. I'm not missing a playoff game. -Mario Lemieux in 1993
by PensFan8725 on May 28, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
if he scores and prevents more goals than he concedes, I’ll be smiling like the dog’s butcher.
Don’t get me wrong guys but I’m a defense kinda guy. So I’m more than likely to have a HUGE tolerance for mistake Flower and Tanger makes.
But after a big contract, Tanger has to step it up. If he keeps up what he did the last two years but reins in the concentration lapses, he’s more than worth the shiny new contract
I'm 21 now... I still feel 20 and I still feel way too old.
Just so I never have to answer this again. I'm from Singapore so whenever you see me online, I'm either sleep deprived or just waking up.
He won’t have huge, Gonchar like offensive numbers
I wouldn’t be so certain. Considering how much more Gonchar plays on the PP and that Letang always deferred to him, let’s wipe them out and compare their even strength points:
Gonchar: 5 G, 15A, 20 pts (6 PPG, 24 PPA)
Letang: 3 G, 22 A, 25 pts (0 PPG, 5 PPA)
If Letang can get going even a bit on the PP, he could definitely put up Gonchar numbers. I sort of doubt that he actually will get there, but it’s certainly not out of the realm of possibility, either.
by TheRebelMonk on May 28, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
nice stats...
plus you have Letang’s relative goal explosion in the playoffs
i put the O/U on him for next year at 10 goals and 50 points
(this year, Gonchar had 11 and 50, in 62 games — Letang played 73)
that said, its highly unlikely the PP runs nearly as smoothly as it did under Gonchar
he’s still one of the best w/ the man advantage
Agreed that...
it likely won’t be as productive you would think…then again, how much worse could it be compared to the regular season this year? I think the biggest reason the PP was so effective in the playoffs was actually Letang. He potted 4 PPGs in the playoffs.
Pens regular season PP%: 17.9
Pens postseason PP% minus Letang: 19.3
Letang really seemed to be the biggest difference here between a mediocre powerplay and a very good one. It also kind of proves the second defensemen was our issue on the PP to an extent as well. There’s a lot to read into this, but my main thought is that Letang hitting the net is what made our powerplay go from mediocre to awesome.
by TheRebelMonk on May 28, 2010 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Crossroads
Next season will be the pivotal year for Letang, no doubt. I’m watching him for the other side of the continent, but from here it looks like his overall game improved this year, especially defensively. I don’t see him becoming a shut-down defenseman, at least not in the sort of classic sense. He could be more in the mold of Brian Rafalski – doing just about everything. Good luck to him!
I think Rafalski is a great comparision for Letang to shoot for. Steady, smallish, good skater, offensive wizard, right handed. All things Letang is or can become.
Rafalski, with experience, is very constant, not one to make many mistakes (that he doesn’t recover from immediately). Almost calm with the puck. I think that’s an element for Letang to improve on.
Then again, must always remember Rafalski was in Finland and light years away from the NHL at age 23, whereas Letang’s already solidly a Top 4 type defenseman.
by Hooks Orpik on May 28, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
How tall is Tanger? If he’s over 6 feet, he sure doesn’t seem like it. I think he needs a bit more size to be a shut down D man. That’s really only one of the characteristics a D man needs, but I think it’s one of the main ones.
Has anyone every noticed that some of the guys that are listed over 6 feet sometimes don’t look it? I don’t know why, but Rupp (listed at 6’5") has never looked that tall to me, scary yes, but never like really tall. Poni was another guy that never looked big either. He was brought in to take up space around the net, but it would be hard for me to guess that he was 6’4". Sid, however, is listed at only 5’11" (I’ve actually heard that he’s shorter than that!) yet he looks pretty big out there most of the time. Geno looks tall out there, obviously, but that’s no surprise (listed at 6’4").
I've told [a 9 months pregnant] Nathalie that she can't have the baby on a game night. I'm not missing a playoff game. -Mario Lemieux in 1993
by PensFan8725 on May 28, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Letang’s usually listed at 5’11, which I believe is probably his true height, give or take a little.
It is weird how certain players “look” bigger/smaller than they are to the eye. At ice level, to me, Jordan Staal’s height always stands out. Same with Malkin, too. Rupp looked tall on television, but that may have been because the last #17 (Sykora) wasn’t all that tall.
by Hooks Orpik on May 28, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Rupp looked tall on television, but that may have been because the last #17 (Sykora) wasn’t all that tall.
Maybe I’m a little out of it, but I’m not sure of the point you’re trying to make here.
Staalzie has always looked tall. Especially when he does that move he does around a defender on the PK or 5 on 5.
I guess a good example of it would be the SH SCF goal in game 4; man, did he make Rafalski look like really tiny. It’s actually one of the few things that I agree with regarding to Rossi. He has said that that goal was quite possibly the biggest goal in Mellon history (easily top 3).
I've told [a 9 months pregnant] Nathalie that she can't have the baby on a game night. I'm not missing a playoff game. -Mario Lemieux in 1993
by PensFan8725 on May 28, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I was just saying it’s interesting (to me anyways) how your eyes tell you differently than from the facts on the sheet.
To me, in person, Staal looks bigger than a guy like Godard even though they’re listed similiarly and probably about the same height.
Of course the official heights can and are inflated some, but my point was it’s interesting when you actually see people who just appear tall in warmups, even if they’re the same height as some teammates.
by Hooks Orpik on May 28, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah…i just don’t know why Rupp looked sort of small to me. It’s not because of Sykie. Maybe it’s just that he’s not out there all that often or that he’s not over powering on offense.
Godard is a tough MF. So is Staal, but in a different way…a warrior is a better description. Godard is just menacing; his job is to take and give beatings! What more can you say? I wouldn’t be surprised at all to find that Godard’s stats are inflated more than other players because of his enforcer status.
I've told [a 9 months pregnant] Nathalie that she can't have the baby on a game night. I'm not missing a playoff game. -Mario Lemieux in 1993
by PensFan8725 on May 28, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Excuse me….lol
Not “stats” but “listings”…haha.
I've told [a 9 months pregnant] Nathalie that she can't have the baby on a game night. I'm not missing a playoff game. -Mario Lemieux in 1993
by PensFan8725 on May 28, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Very telling stat
With only 3 goals on 174 shots in the regular season, Letang is third to last in league in terms of shooting percentage at 1.7%. He was only in front of Nick Shultz and Shawn Thornton, by the way.
People (including me) have seemed to focus on Tanger missing the net. I didn’t realize how low his percentage was when he actually did.
I've told [a 9 months pregnant] Nathalie that she can't have the baby on a game night. I'm not missing a playoff game. -Mario Lemieux in 1993
Pensburg Wrapup- - Kris Letang
With only 3 goals on 174 shots in the regular season, Letang is third to last in league in terms of shooting percentage at 1.7%. He was only in front of Nick Shultz and Shawn Thornton, by the way.
People (including me) have seemed to focus on Tanger missing the net. I didn’t realize how low his percentage was when he actually did
In the playoffs he ranked 2nd among all defensemen with a 21.7% shooting percentage, and 15th among all skaters. For some reason, he lost his scoring touch during the regular season, maybe because he was concentrating on his defensive game. Hopefully, it will continue next season. If it does, look out.
Letang
Regardless if the Pens re-sign Gonch, Letang needs to step up—big time—and find the way. Lead the way. He will need to figure out this for himself and take the cue. If Letang is going to be part of the Pens future and more Cup wins then he needs to become what well all hope and think he has the ability to become.
I think the grades are accurate, I would give him a C overall for both the regular season and Playoffs.
by PensFanInDenver on May 28, 2010 9:54 PM EDT reply actions
I’m convinced that Tanger can take Sarge’s place on the PP. Between him & GoGo, they should both be able to shoulder the PP quarterbacking. At even strength, (per theRebelMonk’s numbers in an above comment), Tanger’s more than making up for Sarge.
I’m thinking his natural progression as a player means we don’t need a direct PP replacement for Sarge.
I'm 21 now... I still feel 20 and I still feel way too old.
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I have huge doubts about GoGo on the PP. His entire season was worse then Lentang’s.
I believe GoGo has much more to do, to improve, alot more then Letang. If Gonch leaves, then it will be GoGo—Letang: they will really need to work at this. I have to have hope that they will both take charge and be leaders on the PP.
We will just have to wait and see who Shero keeps and what D he can bring in.
by PensFanInDenver on May 28, 2010 10:31 PM EDT reply actions
Gogo has been a PP QB for every team he’s ever played for, and that’s what he’s gonna do here when Gonch Leaves.
by SlayerGhaleon on May 29, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Kris Letang
When paired with Orpik, Bylsma referred to the two as his shut down pair. Let’s look at that for a moment and compare them to Scuderi and Gill. First, both skate far better than Scuderi and Gill which allows them to cover a greater area and to recover from their or other’s errors. Second, both Orpik and Letang are aggressive defensemen, meaning they tend to attack the puck carrier rather than retreat, skating backwards to the goal as was the style of Gill and Scuderi. Both Orpik and Letang hit, Scuderi and Gill did less hitting. The hitting and aggressive style works both ways. They result in a far better transition game and effective defensive zone puck management; however, they result in a less positionally sound game. Needless to say, Orpik and Letang are a far better fit with Bylsma’s up tempo, aggressive, puck moving style. One of the reasons that Gill and Scuderi had so many blocked shots is because they could not move the puck out of the defensive zone. Clearly, Letang is an exceptional defensive defenseman. He is far bigger and stronger than writers seem to think and is likely the best skater on the Pens’ team. I shall address his offensive capacity in a later post.
Kris Letang
Offensively he is a gifted player as he demonstrated in the playoffs this last season and in the cup year. He has a cannon of a slap shot (ask Varly) and a wrister that is harder than most slappers. We saw him break the glass with a wrister in practice. He seems to try to pick corners and, as a result misses the goal. However his shot/miss ratio is not much worse than Gonchar or Goligoski. He is the best skater on the team and can channel Bobby Orr at times. As with defense, his fast hands are quite valuable around the crease. The power play will have more movement with Letang who can shoot from the point, pass accurately and quickly in any zone and can take the puck to the net with his skating and puck handling skills. If this kid can put it all together consistently and in a sixty minute sustained manner, he wins the Norris, hands down That is how skilled and talented he is. Clearly he can be “the man” as he was at Val d’Or, once Gonchar leavs or retires.
Tanger
stoopidfool- I could not agree more with you on what you are saying about Letang. I just wanted to give you mad props on such an accurate, intelligent, and eloquent post. I would also just like to add that Letang was by far our best defenseman (and quite possibly our best player overall) in the playoffs, and that that “C+” is very inaccurate.
Kris Letang
Stoopidful – I see the same things in Letang that you are pointing out – I think his talent is too often overlooked, especially in the media. I don’t understand why he is always lumped together with Goligoski, because they are not the same type of defensemen and Letang’s all around game is much more skilled. You look at Goligoski and see a good player with offensive skill who needs a lot of work still in his own wend, but you look at Letang and see a star in the making. Don’t forget, Letang is 2 years younger than Goligoski who turns 25 in July. Letang is a lot stronger than he looks. I heard Jay Caufield say right after game 6 of the Montreal series that Letang is probably one of the strongest skaters in the NHL. I do hope he can put all his talent and skill together consistently, that will be his challenge for the upcoming season or two. I see Bylsma and Shero having a lot of confidence in him and I hope he is rewarded for it.


























