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Penguins vs. Red Wings Repeat Looks Highly Unlikely

Remember that Pens-Wings rubber match everyone talked about and/or dreaded for the 2010 Finals?  Well, San Jose may have finally put the nail in that coffin. 

I know a good number of us were chatting it up with regards to the Wings/Sharks game in last night's thread a bit after the Pens and Habs wrapped things up.  But for those who didn't see it, well, you missed a crazy game.

Detroit entered the third period up 3-1 over the Sharks.  Jimmy Howard, who has no doubt been a bit shaky since the Wings entered the second round, would ultimately take an 'L' before all was said and done.  San Jose managed to tie it up on goals from Joe Thornton and Logan Couture (he had five over 25 games during the regular season).  Then, in OT, San Jose took a two-on-one all the way home as Patrick Marleau buried the winner.

I know in the world of sports you really can't rule out the impossible.  But this playoff run has been odd on so many levels, as indicated by the division winners in the East getting buried before the end of the first round in addition to a series of fluky goals, hot goaltenders and ridiculous overtime nailbiters.  So while San Jose may appear to have this one in hand, nothing's over till that fourth win.  Even if the Sharks are allegedly cursed.

But now I can say something like, "in all likeliness."  Something nice and vague so I don't over commit to some statement that I can attempt to take back at a later time (journalists do this all the time).

So, in all likeliness the Wings are done.  In all likeliness the Sharks will move on to the next round.  In all likeliness the Pens and Red Wings will not meet in the Finals.  And in all likeliness, following the potential elimination of the Wings, every fan in the league will start rooting against the Pens to do the same.

Let's see the Pens stick it to em.

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If Osgood was in net how did Jimmy Howard make 29/33 saves??

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/boxscore?gid=2010050405

by Max Powers on May 5, 2010 9:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Good question. And why did I include it in the story? even better question.

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by FrankD on May 5, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Side note: I could’ve sworn Howard got pulled from the game. Guess the announcers were just talking about Osgood for no reason. or perhaps, like myself, speculating he’d be in net soon enough.

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by FrankD on May 5, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

If he did get pulled they might’ve saved the game. Epic fail on that tying goal. Howard was out for the shooter, but Rafalski crapped himself and cost them the goal and likely the game.

by Max Powers on May 5, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ahem, I meant the winning goal.

Apparently nobody’s too sharp today.

by Max Powers on May 5, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah. Typing posts in the morning has never been my forte.

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by FrankD on May 5, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m happy to see Howard fail. He talked a lot of ish earlier in the season about Sid and the Pens. I just wish Pittsburgh was the team to send him home.

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by FrankD on May 5, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Seems like he may be one of those goalies who just completely self-destructs like Varlamov. We’ll be sure to find out Thursday night. He’s gonna get the spotlight whether he deserves it or not. Hate to say it, but they’re dead unless Babcock starts Osgood. You know what that does to that team’s confidence. It would be really unfair to Howard tho, so they probably won’t do it.

by Max Powers on May 5, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Howard’s had a good year, but again, I think he should’ve waited till he picked up some sort of hardware before he started running his mouth. I’m not necessarily talking Stanley Cup either. Win all you want in the regular season. But when you start talking a big game and ya can’t back it up in the playoffs, therein lies the problem.

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by FrankD on May 5, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

A difference between Varlamov and Howard is the team he has in front of him. They are much more likely to support him off the ice, and help him get over the losses. And Osgood is a great veteran to have backing him up.

If anyone can come back from the 3-0, the Wings can. I don’t think they will, but I’m also not 100% certain they won’t.

Leafs fan living large in the Pitt and pretending like the drought is over. Go Pens!

by PopRocks on May 5, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah Boyle said that as well.
I rather see the Sharks eliminate them though, and not have it take it to that 7 game.
I also refuse to think of that Forbidden Word.
I’m so jittery for thursday it’s not even funny :(

by AppleSweetRose on May 5, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

What’s the Forbidden Word?

haha … just kidding. I won’t make you say it!

Boyle is a smart man :)

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by PopRocks on May 5, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Since I'm not a journalist,

I’ll say it
The Wings are done
Put ’em in a bag with some hot sauce
Shake ’em around
Serve ’em with a side of celery and blue cheese

10 wins to go.
Let's go Pens!

by PensAreYourDaddy on May 5, 2010 9:20 AM EDT reply actions  

Reminds me of how last year, a co-worker of mine ate hot wings before every game—red wings, hahaha—while they were facing his Blackhawks in the playoffs.

"Darling, you say Brooks Orpik 'checked' that guy. He did not 'get under him and put him into the wall'."--Beloved to me, Winter 2007

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by GreenEyedLilo on May 5, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hahah is he still doing that?

by AppleSweetRose on May 5, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

He only does that when the Blackhawks play the Wings.

"Darling, you say Brooks Orpik 'checked' that guy. He did not 'get under him and put him into the wall'."--Beloved to me, Winter 2007

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by GreenEyedLilo on May 5, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

On the bright side, I can probably cancel the appointments with the marriage counselor Beloved and I would have needed if there was a threepeat. Also, there will be less whining online. However, I’m going to have to put up with a little whining at home.

Let the haters moan, “Penguins again?”

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by GreenEyedLilo on May 5, 2010 9:38 AM EDT reply actions  

I would love for the Pens to stick in everyone’s faces!
Would welcome the glorious whiners haha.

I don’t know how you two can live together honestly. I so hate Red Wings fans >_<
There are decent ones, as there are in every fanbase, but really… haven’t met too many of ’em, tsk.

by AppleSweetRose on May 5, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

My wife was born in Detroit, but luckily never was a Wings fan. Thank God for that.

10 wins to go.
Let's go Pens!

by PensAreYourDaddy on May 5, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Though we did have a little issue a few years back when she wore her Tigers jersey to Fenway. Luckily Dice-K’s complete game, 1-hit shutout meant I didn’t have to hear too much about Detroit that day, and now I’m pretty sure she has fully converted over to Red Sox Nation.

10 wins to go.
Let's go Pens!

by PensAreYourDaddy on May 5, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I live with one of the good ones. Actually, we don’t have regional ties to either team, and we didn’t know there would be a rivalry when I first learned how hockey works a few years ago and decided I liked the Penguins best. But the past two SCFs did see us losing a little perspective. We both wanted and dreaded a threepeat all at once.

As for fans of other Eastern Conference teams, well, their whining would be like beautiful music.

"Darling, you say Brooks Orpik 'checked' that guy. He did not 'get under him and put him into the wall'."--Beloved to me, Winter 2007

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by GreenEyedLilo on May 5, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pens and hawks, or Canucks...Olympic undertones

could be Crosby vs. Kane just like the gold metal game, which coul dbe good for you, or it could mean that it is Kane’s turn to win.

or

it could be Sid beating Luogo for the cup instead of winning the gold for him

by Rickfansince76 on May 5, 2010 9:46 AM EDT reply actions  

In Des Moines there already is a devout and unquestioned hatred of the Pens! I just don’t know where it comes from but most of the people here are brainless hicks when it comes to hockey.

As for the Red Wings fading before our eyes I understand how some of us may take joy in that, but remember, you are looking at our future. All things must come to an end and Detroit has been a power-house for years but time has caught up to them. It will happen to us one day soon I am afraid. I figure the Pens have 4-5 great years left before “The Core” all become UFA’s and some are going to leave.

I am just amazed to see the Sharks actually playing well in the playoffs. Honestly, after the past 5 years who amongst us had the Sharks producing in the playoffs?

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by Dr Tre on May 5, 2010 10:36 AM EDT reply actions  

Hmpf, the Sharks always had the potential to play awesome hockey.
Glad it’s the Sharks that are on the brink of eliminating them.

Oh and well, see, I rather not worry about what will happen to the Pens just yet. I’ll take those 4-5 years as they come. And hopefully it won’t take too long to rebuild to get into playoff contention again.
Imagine, the Leafs and the Isles might be one of the powerhouses again in 5-10 years, eh?
It’s funny to imagine that. We might even come to hate them in their glorious days…

by AppleSweetRose on May 5, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think someone should probably post that sidney haters gonna hate .gif because it expresses everything i think on this topic.

STAAL FOR SELKE. SIDNEY FOR EVERY OTHER ONE.

by katielynn906 on May 5, 2010 10:37 AM EDT reply actions  

I’m glad. I’m always so happy about the parity in the league, especially the likelihood for upsets in the playoffs that you rarely see in the NBA or MLB (the NFL’s parity seems largely powered by player movement, but is still strong). Having DET-PIT three straight years would sort of dent the perception of parity.

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by winterion on May 5, 2010 10:43 AM EDT reply actions  

I know, right? What are the odds, in a thirty-team league, in which sixteen out of said thirty teams make the playoffs, of the same two teams making it the the Stanley Cup Final in three consecutive seasons? That would be insane. And kind of depressing.

by kellyn on May 5, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m pretty surprised the Wings are down 3-0. Sharks look good, but for some reason I’m still waiting for them to implode.

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by GoPenguins on May 5, 2010 10:53 AM EDT reply actions  

Which is part of the reason why I just can’t commit to saying the series is over. It’s the Sharks.

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by FrankD on May 5, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree completely, the Sharks always seem to be ready to implode at a moments notice. Still I wonder if they finally got the playoff team they were supposed to have the last several years….

A sweep of the Red Wings would be most impressive.

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by GenoTheGreat on May 5, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I rather not say the word, but I’m desperately hoping for it! If not, at least I’m hoping for an elimination rather quickly.

by AppleSweetRose on May 5, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

there's only one explanation

The Wings are imploding under the mountain of bad karma that comes from signing Todd Bertuzzi.

P is for Latrobe.

by holiday park on May 5, 2010 11:21 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I’ve always felt that if the Sharks could play up to their potential in the playoffs they’d be more than almost any team could handle.

Now they’re starting to do so, and that’s scary.

by SlayerGhaleon on May 5, 2010 11:45 AM EDT reply actions  

I want to see Chicago in the final, because I want Hossa to lose in said final for the third time in three years with three different teams!

by rlsuth on May 5, 2010 12:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Tsk, for me, Hossa is old news.
I rather have the Sharks. Hopefully the Nucks can burn the Hawks. Would be wonderful to see.

by AppleSweetRose on May 5, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right. To me, being mad at Hossa, as a Pens fan, is a lot like still being mad at your ex after you’ve both gone on and married other people.

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by GreenEyedLilo on May 5, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nah, nothing wrong with maintaining a little Hossa-hate. I listen to this song at least once a week.

10 wins to go.
Let's go Pens!

by PensAreYourDaddy on May 5, 2010 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol… this song’s epic!

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by Alighieri on May 5, 2010 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not mad at Hossa, I just think it would be extremely funny.

by rlsuth on May 5, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Chicago does make it to the Stanley Cup Final and the Blackhawks lose to whichever team comes out of the East (obviously I hope it’s the Penguins, but this is just a hypothetical scenario) does that make him a bona fide curse?

by kellyn on May 5, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does it matter?

The damned mercenary deserves it, I hope he makes every Stanley Cup in the next 5 years and lose everyone of them…

To think I actually bought his jersey from when he was a Pen… Now I can’t even give it away.

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by Alighieri on May 5, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

That would be totally crazy if that happened, especially considering how insanely superstitious hockey players can be. The NHL might as well be Obsessive Compulsives Anonymous.

by kellyn on May 6, 2010 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

R.I.P.

Red Wings fan suck it bigtime
And with their stars aging (and signed until 2050), they might not sniff a Cup again for a long, long, long time

by Diomedes7 on May 5, 2010 1:14 PM EDT reply actions  

I hope the Red Wings get swept. And I hope it burns almost as much as the time they got swept in the ’95 Stanley Cup Final by Claude Lemieux and the Devils. Suck on that, Tin Foil Hat-wearing Wings fans.

by kellyn on May 5, 2010 3:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Coming from a guy who lives in Detroit and had to put up with my friends and those Cups and all the whining, I’m a pretty happy camper now. I hope sooooo bad they do get swept. Between that and Wash getting bounced in the first round, it’s been a good playoffs so far for me.

by iomor27 on May 5, 2010 6:29 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I’d never discount the Wings. A team that’s been this far in the playoffs for this long usually does so for a reason. Even if it seems very bleak, I’d stay the hell away from this series until the final buzzer goes on that 4th Sharks win.

That said, if the Wings do get axed, I’ll be rooting for the Hawks. Philly looks like they’re going out and the Caps are already gone… Wouldn’t feel like a Stanley Cup run if we don’t get an old rival to beat up…

Enter Hossa. :D

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