Congrats To The Chicago Blackhawks....Now The Vultures Circle
First of all, congratulations to the Chicago Blackhawks and our buddies over at Second City Hockey. Quite a revival for a hockey starved city that had to 49 years to win another Cup. It was well deserved and they had an incredibly deep and great team.
Now that the pleasantries are out of the way, Chicago's in quite a bind. They have a huge bullseye on their back, and not just because they'll skate next season with the "defending Cup champ" tag on them. Thanks to some mis-management and foolish free agent signings the Blackhawks are in quite the pickle. They have about $57.6 million on the salary cap next season accounting for just 15 players, with the expected salary cap at the $58.8 million range, give or take a little.
In short, their lineup in October is going to look quite a bit different from what they iced this past playoffs.
Other than Jonathan Toews, Patrick Kane, Duncan Keith, Marian Hossa, Brent Seabrook and Antti Niemi, almost every single signed player has been mentioned as a possibility to be traded for some salary cap relief. To be sure, they're going to have to wheel and deal a little bit. Might they demote a guy like Brian Campbell ($7.14 million with an amazing six more years to go on his contract) or Cristobal Huet ($5.625 million with two more years) to the minors and eat that salary? Seems hefty and potentially too costly to wash away.
There's an area for exploitation here, and that's the name of the game. Chicago may not be interested in trading with Pittsburgh -- what would be their rationale to trade a solid player to a potential contender, even if it's out of conference? On top of that, Pittsburgh really doesn't have that many young, good, inexpensive players that would be valued by Chicago. If Ray Shero wants to take the next step, it may have to come from poaching a RFA that the Blackhawks just can't afford to match.
Who are some possibilities? Let's take the jump and see.
--This would have to be a trade, since Kris Versteeg is under contract, but he might be the ideal addition for Pittsburgh. Young, fast, skilled. Plug him into a line with Sidney Crosby or Evgeni Malkin and watch them go. Would Pittsburgh be willing to give up the draft picks and prospects enough to make it happen? Probably not. We can dream though.
Hjalmarsson has become something of an emerging star these playoffs. He's big, tough, unafraid to block shots and becoming a guy who can give 22-25 solid minutes of defense.
An offer of up to $3.1 million bucks would mean Chicago only receives a 2nd round draft pick (in 2011) if they choose not to match it. The Pens aren't immune to salary cap challenges, but with a lot of defensemen coming off the books, they'd probably have enough room to squeeze Hjalmarsson into their salary structure. Provided another opportunistic team doesn't sign him to an offer sheet first.
Would Ray Shero break the unwritten rule of GM's and target another team's RFA? That's debatable. It'd be a hit to his reputation and probably make a Penguin player a target for an offer sheet in the future. The Pens don't have any notable RFA's-to-be in the near future though.
No one's done more for their value this playoff than "Big Buff", who's scored 11 playoff goals and been damn near impossible and unstoppable in front of the net. Imagining him setting up shop for the Penguins and all the open ice it'd give to Crosby/Malkin is a good thought.
But, like Versteeg, he's under contract too, and dealing just a $3m salary won't totally solve Chicago's woes, especially when Byfuglien's a capable top 6 winger. Still, their GM is in a position not to say no to anything without hearing the trade offer out.
Ladd could be a prime offer sheet target, if a team wants to play it that way. He'd add size, some scoring and would be a big boost for the Penguins. An offer of $2 million or so might be too much if Chicago gets inundated in the free agent frenzy. It'd only cost a 2nd round pick, and given the track record of how the Pens draft in that round it would probably be a good deal on paper.
Here's your wild card. Skille was picked 7th overall back in 2005, a couple of slots after Crosby. He's got good size and skill, but consistency and salary cap crunch has kept him mostly in the minor league, where he's been a good point producer for AHL Rockford.
Doubtlessly, Chicago would like to sign him and plug him into their NHL lineup -- he ought to be relatively cheap compared to their other roster players and he is enough of a player to not have a major letdown.
But again, Chicago's got celebrating, logistics of a parade and the draft. That's a lot for an organization to handle and the next few quicks will be quite the blur. If Skille makes it to July 1 without signing a contract, he could be a perfect candidate to sign him in that range that will really force a tough decision.
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Will the Penguins be able to take advantage of this situation and come away with a favorable acquistion and quality young player? In all liklihood, probably not. Don't think that there aren't 28 other franchises that aren't also licking their chops and weighing their options about how to do the same thing. The Blackhawks have also known this storm was coming, surely their front office has been pouring over all the possibilities of how to retain as much of their team and who they'd be willing to part with, and for what cost.
There's a lot of pieces in motion here, least of all the salary cap situation in Pittsburgh and the trading chips they have to give, which we all know isn't ideal compared to a lot of other teams out there.
But where there's a will, there's usually a way. If Ray Shero and co. doesn't pull it off, it doesn't mean they didn't try or at least investigate. With a little diligence, luck and maybe getting their hands dirty they could just bring an important piece of this year's Stanley Cup champs over East to last year's champs.
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My buddy who lives there heard fireworks going off about ten minutes after they won. It was hilarious.
Which begs the question, what do you do with the fireworks if they lose? Donate them to a Third World Country like they will the t-shirts and baseball caps made up touting the losing the Flyers as the Stanley Cup Champions? (I’m pretty sure they start making championship merchandise the minute they know which teams are going to make it to the Final. How else do you explain the t-shirts and hats that appear out of thin air for the players to wear as they celebrate their victory on the ice?)
Maybe they can use them to block that leaky oil well in the gulf.
The Pens will be back.
by PensAreYourDaddy on Jun 10, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow
That’s actually the best idea I’ve heard so far
by stoopidtom on Jun 10, 2010 10:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
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apologies to the nice, classy flyers fans. but you understand.
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by katielynn906 on Jun 10, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
because you speak the language of my souuuuuuuuul. =)
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by katielynn906 on Jun 10, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m glad that’s over. I wouldn’t advocate going the offer-sheet route in Free Agency….at least not for the Penguins. From what I’ve read about Versteeg is that he is all offence and zero defence….he’s still valuable mind you, but I just don’t see the Penguins adding any significant contracts in trades this offseason. I am really looking forward to seeing how the ’Hawks are going to get out of their Cap funk though. I have a feeling Toronto will be a trading partner for them…and obviously Florida too.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they throw their old GM (who most in the org. still love) a bone and give him a deal.
I fully don’t expect the Pens to do any of this, but it would be a nice little coup if they could work something out with Chicago
by Hooks Orpik on Jun 10, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Nice possible options, Hooks.
I like Versteeg the best. He’s got nice speed and decent hands, and he’s got the best offensive totals of all those guys. I also think he’ll be better to go after than Buff because Byfuglien will be in line for a big pay raise after the performance he put on in the playoffs (read: over-valued).
We already have plenty of 4th line grinders, so Skille adds nothing new, and Ladd seems like another 6th or 7th forward without the tools to succeed alongside Crosby and Malkin.
My concern with Hjalmarsson is his age. I don’t know if I’d feel comfortable having 3 of our top 6 dmen under the age of 25.
Pittsburgh sports all the way
My concern with Hjalmarsson is his age. I don’t know if I’d feel comfortable having 3 of our top 6 dmen under the age of 25.
The youth doesn’t bother me, #1 it’s a young man’s sport, #2 by the start of next playoffs Letang ought to be well over 300 NHL games played (reg season + playoffs), Goligoski and Hjalmarsson will be approaching 200. They may be young, but that’s enough experience to make me comfortable.
by Hooks Orpik on Jun 10, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, somebody’s going to overpay for buffy the crease-slayer bigtime. He really only would fit here on the power play anyway. He really looked slow and would look even slower playing Bylsma’s game.
I don’t buy that he can’t skate. He used to be a defenseman and he plays on a line with Toews and Kane. Byfuglien’s skating ability doesn’t bother me one bit.
by Hooks Orpik on Jun 10, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
I would say Versteeg or Hjalmarsson would be ideal,but I dont think that will happen. I think its possible for Ladd or Skille because they might be the most affordable on the Pens side. Honestly though, Hooks you said it, every other NHL team know Chicago is going to have to make some deals. With the Pens lack of depth in prospects, I really doubt the Pens could make the best offer out of any team. Unless RS is willing to part with more draft picks I dont see these as being that realistic. Hopefully I’m wrong.
The route I see as most likely — with the huge disclaimer that it’s still probably not likely at all — has to be the RFA route. Throw up to $3 million at Hjalmarsson, Ladd or Skille and see if they match. You only lose a 2nd round pick in ’11 if it works.
Obviously a guy like Ladd or Skille isn’t worth the $3 million, so it’s a balancing act; how much to offer to get the player to sign (he still has a choice in the matter, we should all remember) but still keep Pittsburgh’s salary structure in tact.
by Hooks Orpik on Jun 10, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Interesting recent article from Copper and Blue—give 2 offer sheets at once, one at the 2nd rounder level and another at the 1st and 3rd rounders level to try and handcuff a team.
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by red army line on Jun 10, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea that doesnt seem like Sheros style.
by genomachine-O on Jun 10, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think any GM now would offer sheet a guy unless he’s an absolute stud like Doughty or maybe Backstrom, let alone dual offer sheet. Reputation takes too big of a hit and GMs get payback.
But just something to think about.
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by red army line on Jun 10, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice write up – wow the Hawks will be strapped for sure. Versteeg was always in the mix it seemed to me (the little I did watch). But a 6’4 257 pound winger….hmmmmmmm
He’s played extremely well in the playoffs, but his regular season numbers are average at best. The worst thing a team can do is to make a decision on Byfuglien only thinking about his last five weeks of play.
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I don’t think Byfuglien is going anywhere after his performance in this season’s playoffs. He’s proven himself to be quite clutch when the situation calls for it.
Actually, I think his playoff play has put him in a position to be traded. Chicago is going to want to get as much as they can in the way of prospects and draft picks for whoever they trade. I don’t think there’d be much interest in him based on just his regular season play, but with his playoff performance I could see teams (a) being willing to pick up his cap hit, and (b) being willing to make a substantial trade to get him. Given Chicago’s cap situation, and the other contracts they’re carrying, I don’t think they can be too picky. If a decent offer is made, I’d see them taking the deal.
Go, Shero, Go!!! And also Brian Burke.
That’s a point of view I hadn’t considered. On the one hand, they could theoretically be getting pretty good value for a good net crashing forward (and how many of those are there?). On the other hand, his trade value is highest probably right before draft day if not now.
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by red army line on Jun 10, 2010 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
we can has patrick sharp?
he played wing, didn’t he? then the team moved him to center a few months ago? maybe i’m crazy.
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also, no idea what’s up with my first sentence. i’m really tired. apologies.
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by katielynn906 on Jun 10, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep, Sharp plays both. Probably will be one of the most coveted players on the Hawks. $3.9 million cap hit for next year.
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by red army line on Jun 10, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
That plus he’s a center and has one more year on his contract before being a UFA.
Sharp’s a hell of a player but there’s a number of others that are younger, wingers, cheaper and better fits for Pittsburgh.
I agree, the last thing Pittsburgh needs is more centers. Between Crosby, Malkin, Staal, Talbot, Adams, etc., I think they’ve just about cornered the market.
yeah, true. i guess it’s my own little pipe dream, there.
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by katielynn906 on Jun 10, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I think if there is any way the Blackhawks can get him in under the salary cap, they will. They would hate to see him skating in any other jersey than their own, which is kind of understandable considering how many teams will want him..
They have to prioritize, no doubt. I think Byfuglien is highest, and Versteeg after his poor playoffs (relatively) and Sopel (overpaid 3rd pairing D) are the ones they’ll be looking to move. Versteeg shouldn’t be a problem to trade. Sharp I would think falls somewhere in the middle.
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by red army line on Jun 10, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
You know what I'm scared of?
That all this talk is much more fun than the actual trades and such will be. After all, they can dump Huet in the minors, they have that extra $2million the cap is supposed to rise by, presumably, and after that they can trade Versteeg and Sharp for draft picks and I think that’s all they should need.
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that might get them by for another year. Then Seabrook and I forget who else are due for new deals the year after. I think they’ll have to make a couple moves. I dont expect them to clean house like a lot of people are expecting. Its going to take a lot of work to get under the cap, try not to disrupt the current line up too much, and plan for years ahead.
by genomachine-O on Jun 10, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Seabrook’s making north of $3 million as it is, already, if I remember Capgeek’s chart correctly. I guess the good thing is they have most of their big contracts not getting bigger if at all—Keith, Kane, Toews, Campbell, etc—for some time. Seabrook shouldn’t get too much or a raise I would think as he’s RFA and plays with a soon-to-be Norris winner.
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by red army line on Jun 10, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
A week or two ago Stoosh on Pensblog suggested a trade of Kennedy, Talbot, and Goddard for Veersteg. Don’t laugh, think about it. The Hawks save $500K net and fill 2 roster positions with Cup experienced players, and can avoid $1M in not resigning Eager as their enforcer. The Pens get the elusive top 6 winger, move DuPuis to Kennedy’s spot, LeTestu to 4th line center (say $500K), Rupp is the enforcer in the very limited role that has become. Veersteg has 2 years left at $3.15M, and is then an RFA. Net increase in the Pens cap is about $1M, so there’s still money for another winger.
That said, I watched Veersteg during the playoffs and wasn’t all that impressed with him, especially as a $3M winger. Buff is at $3M, Sharp at $3.5M, each for 1 year and then become UFAs. I’d take either over Veersteg except for the additional year/RFA plus that would come with Veersteg.
I was really impressed with Hjalmarsson, he’d be a great addition (though not at $3M), but Shero doesn’t strike me as one to play RFA hardball.
There’s something wrong with the salary cap structure if the Hawks can stuff Huet and/or Campbell in the minors to avoid the cap hits. I really hope they don’t go in that direction.
Stoosh on Pensblog suggested a trade of Kennedy, Talbot, and Goddard for Veersteg. Don’t laugh, think about it.
Much love for the Stoosh, but Chicago aint gonna bite on that. If anything Godard and his $750k salary is nothing good for them. TK + Talbot isn’t a good enough on ice return. I bet they’ll see a lot better.
I know I included Versteeg in this discussion, but with the mind Chicago would be looking for a first round pick or a big time prospect like Tangradi or Despres. Shero’s not going to do that so it won’t happen.
Which leads back to the thinking that only an RFA offer sheet guy is a remote possibility. Hard to imagine the Pens getting anyone on trade who already has a contract (Versteeg, Sharp, Byfuglien, etc). The Pens can’t clear enough cap for Chicago and/or offer them the good, young players that other teams can.
Shero doesn’t strike me as one to play RFA hardball.
Why not? Is he not aggressive when it comes to stuff like that?
Only an aggressive GM will make a somewhat high profile offer sheet (read: for solid NHLers, not marginal prospects) nowadays, and generally will thereafter be considered SOBs. Like Lowe.
Shero’s not passive, but he’s no team Fin SOB either. I don’t think he’d offer sheet a guy like Hjammer or Ladd.
There’s something wrong with the salary cap structure if the Hawks can stuff Huet and/or Campbell in the minors to avoid the cap hits. I really hope they don’t go in that direction.
Judging by Second City Hockey discussions, Huet to the minors is a guaranteed move. Campbell has a no movement clause I believe, so he’s staying in CHI.
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by red army line on Jun 10, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Why not? Is he not aggressive when it comes to stuff like that?
I’d say Shero’s been bold, but not aggressive. He’s also a shrewd guy that has done well to think his moves out.
I believe he flat out said a couple of summers ago that he wouldn’t consider signing another team’s RFAs, saying his first priority was to tie up the Pens core to avoid offer sheets coming this way. That could have been based in some posturing though. Plus times have changed, the Pens don’t have any notable RFA’s on the horizon anytime soon.
Just an FYI
If any of you are interested, we just did our season-end review of Luca Caputi over at PPP.
"Defense! Defense! Common! Do you call that blowing!?"
thanks, FF. interesting read.
ponikarovsky was a disappointment, but i get the sense that caputi will be, too.
by Mario Lemieux #66 on Jun 10, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Caputi is still young — give him time. He has potential.
by PensFanInDenver on Jun 10, 2010 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I get the sense that neither team is happy with this trade. Tradebacks?
by stoopidtom on Jun 10, 2010 10:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Stamped it, no erasies?
Plus, I don’t think Brian Burke wants a Poni.
Go, Shero, Go!!! And also Brian Burke.
What?
Signed,
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by red army line on Jun 12, 2010 4:01 AM EDT up reply actions
No one has any idea. They’re working on an extension for Fehr and Schultz (RFAs) and for Belanger (UFA), and will certainly QO Fleischmann, but McPhee’s not tipping his hand. They’ll need another D, and probably another center too.
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by red army line on Jun 12, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Don’t forget me!
Yours truly,
Milan Jurcina, traded from DC to CBJ and back to DC.
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by red army line on Jun 12, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Not at all.
Over at PPP, we’re quite pleased with getting something decent for an expiring contract.
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I like Big Buff because he is big. And he makes me laugh. That’s as good a reason as any! LOL
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Did you see the Down Goes Brown and Bloge Salming video about how to pronounce Byfuglien’s name? Hilarious.
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