Pensburgh Wrapup: Sidney Crosby
"I'm aware if I'm playing at my best I'm tough to beat. And I enjoy that." – Tiger Woods
Regular season stats:
Playoff stats:
Month by Month Pensburgh Grades:
October: A-
November: A-
December: A-
January: A-
February: A+
March: A
April: A-
Contract status: Signed until 2013/14 with a cap hit of $8.7 mill. Will become an UFA in 2013/14.
Interesting stat: For the first time since his rookie season in 2005-06, Sidney Crosby played 81 games in 2009-10, the closest he's ever come to a full 82-game season.
The Good: Where do we begin? For the first time in his career, Crosby netted 50+ goals (51), tying him with Tampa Bay's Steve Stamkos for the most in the league which, in turn, resulted in the two of them sharing the Maurice Richard Trophy. Hindsight I find it so amusing that earlier in the season there was so much talk focused around Sid's "new stick" and how it would result in him shooting more. Well, that improved too. Sid finished just two shots short of 300 with a total of 298, the most in his career. Given the increase in shots and his goal total, that translates to nearly one goal for every 5.8 shots on net. To compare, Stamkos fired one less shot on net in one more game played than Sid, while Alex Ovechkin scored 50 goals on 368 shots on net - or nearly one in every 7.26. If we're talking ratios and applying the "what if" scenario into the mix, then if Sid let loose 368 shots he would've, statistically speaking, edged close to 63 goals for the season.
Also worth noting is Sid's playoff performance in which he tallied 19 points over 13 games. If you look at the top 10 scores for the playoffs you'll find Crosby ranked number nine on the list. All players above him played anywhere between six to 10 games more than him in the playoffs.
The Not-So-Good: To be honest I'm having a little trouble identifying the not-so-good of a guy who led the league in goals, led the Pens in points and did everything that was asked of him throughout the regular season and playoffs. I'm not going to force it if it's not there, but I'll leave it up to you guys to chime in if you think I'm overlooking something.
Final Verdict: Personal accomplishments aside, the entire season was a losing one for 29 teams in the league. No member of any team feels the pain of that more than a captain, and no captain in the league feels it more than Crosby, the 2009 winner who was faced with the pressures of a repeat .01 seconds after the final horn sounded in Game 7 against the Red Wings last season.
Question and Discussion: Given Sid's increase in goal production I don't think I have to ask whether or not most of you would welcome it again next season, so instead I'll ask this - do you think Crosby's numbers may, given a healthy season of equal or greater length, actually increase beyond his 2009-10 finish?
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Sid's season so nice, had to honor him thrice

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by PensAreYourDaddy on Jun 16, 2010 8:06 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Agreed. Very enjoyable. You could sell these to the guys in the mall.
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OMG!!
OH, these are the best! He is the best! I am jealous you have all of these photos!!!
Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by PensFanInDenver on Jun 16, 2010 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions
i love the one of sid looking at you. mainly because i am jealous.
STAAL FOR SELKE. SIDNEY FOR EVERY OTHER ONE OR JUST THE HART AND THE MESSIER LEADERSHIP AWARD. THAT IS ACCEPTABLE.
by katielynn906 on Jun 16, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Thanks everybody. I love doing these, so I’m glad somebody else is enjoying them as well.
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by PensAreYourDaddy on Jun 16, 2010 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Playoffs
I don’t see a playoff grade in there for Sid.
He dominated the first few games of the Ottawa series, but then he disappeared during the 3-OT game 5. (I kept looking for him. Saw Geno a lot during the OT periods, but very little Sid.) After that, it was almost all secondary scoring until elimination in the second round.
I kept saying to my friends that I thought Sid was either gassed or hurt, because he CLEARLY did not look like himself. He seemed to be gliding a lot instead of skating.
I know Sid is both too proud and too private to blame a playoff loss on injury (if there was one), espeically this long after the fact. But did anyone else have the same impressions on Sid’s health from the OT game on?
by RuthenianCowboy on Jun 16, 2010 9:27 AM EDT reply actions
To me, it still looked like Crosby was working his ass off. However, with Geno hiding in the dark he was left to take on the top two defensive pairings. This was just my impression. It would be interesting to know if Crosby was really nursing an injury.
Even though I thought no one looked good in the 3 OT game, I agree with you. But I also think that Sid got hurt in the 3 OT game. Just enough to slow him down for the next series. It didn’t help that the USS Hal Gill rolled into town at that time as well (understatement).
I've told [a 9 months pregnant] Nathalie that she can't have the baby on a game night. I'm not missing a playoff game. -Mario Lemieux in 1993
by PensFan8725 on Jun 17, 2010 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Cowboy, I think the April grade is supposed to be the equivalent of the playoffs grade.
As to Sid’s possible injury, I think there might have been something nagging at him, but nothing more than what all the other guys are experiencing after an 82 game grind. I thought he was gassed in the triple OT Ottawa game and was merely average in game 6. And MTL simply invested all their energy in stopping Sid and forced Malkin to beat them. There’s not a whole lot any hockey player can do when you’re being triple and quadruple teamed below the goal line.
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“There’s not a whole lot any hockey player can do when you’re being triple and quadruple teamed below the goal line.”
I suppose that’s what linemates are supposed to be for… but we fans have THAT discussion often enough.
by RuthenianCowboy on Jun 16, 2010 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Lol this. That was the difference. I don’t think (at least I hope) I will get mobbed for this, but taking the 08 SCF and the 09 SCF, in terms of point production, for Sid, I think Hossa was the difference. Sid had a great Final with Hossa, but a below average one with below average linemates (no offense to Kuny and Billy).
I've told [a 9 months pregnant] Nathalie that she can't have the baby on a game night. I'm not missing a playoff game. -Mario Lemieux in 1993
by PensFan8725 on Jun 17, 2010 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions
I think they were ALL gassed in the triple OT game. I was just watching it!
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by PensFanInDenver on Jun 16, 2010 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions
I thought it got boring really fast. By the middle of the second OT, everyone was at like 60% and it wasn’t too exciting.
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I so badly wanted to go get wings that night, but I couldn’t bring myself to leave the apartment during an elimination game, especially one that was in OT.
Game ended pretty much right before the kitchen at my then-bar-of-choice in Harrisburg closed. (And ended the way none of us wanted it to end.)
I contented myself with cup-o-soup.
by RuthenianCowboy on Jun 16, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
While Cowboy was eating cup-o-soup in the comfort of his apartment, some of us were making the 4 hour drive home and had to be at work at 6am. Oh, poor me! ;-)
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by PensAreYourDaddy on Jun 16, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
That’s what I said during the game thread and everyone disagreed with me lol! Maybe it was because I spoke too soon (the game hadn’t finished yet), but I think it was the most boring hockey the Pens played the entire playoffs.
I've told [a 9 months pregnant] Nathalie that she can't have the baby on a game night. I'm not missing a playoff game. -Mario Lemieux in 1993
by PensFan8725 on Jun 17, 2010 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions
“Cowboy, I think the April grade is supposed to be the equivalent of the playoffs grade.”
You are correct, sir. I was used to seeing “Playoffs” separately with Hooks’ report cards. It didn’t register that Frank wrote this one.
It’s early and I’m hung over, but that’s no excuse. Mea maxima culpa.
by RuthenianCowboy on Jun 16, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
The kid’s an animal. We are very fortunate to have him on our team. He does everything right, and is just awesome in every way a player could be awesome. It’s exciting to think how he takes huge strides every offseason, and I just want to see what’s up his sleeve this year?
I know it’s silly, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see him play a little bit at the point or something this year. Other than incrementally increasing everything he’s already great at, where else could he step it up and put the team on his back?
LUCKY FANS...
Seriously though, I have to agree. How lucky are we as Pens fans. How many teams can say they’ve had players like Sidney Crosby, Mario Lemieux, Jaromir Jagr and Ron Francis suit up wearing their uniform? Not many…are we spoiled? I would say, yeah…why not!
by Wags24 on Jun 16, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions
I’d like to see Sid work his magic and start playing for a few more breakaways without sacrificing his defense.
Also, he should work on taking draws while on the power play. He’s great at faceoffs, but I think he needs to be better when on the man advanatge.
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Wait how do you go for breakaways without sacrificing your defense? This is just theoretical but… I think if Sid and Geno were on a line together, with Sid, for whatever reason, playing wing Geno could set him up on some nice saucer passes for breakaways.
I was going to say Sid at center setting up Geno (wing) for breakaways, but then I remembered that Geno is sort of bad at them =/.
I've told [a 9 months pregnant] Nathalie that she can't have the baby on a game night. I'm not missing a playoff game. -Mario Lemieux in 1993
by PensFan8725 on Jun 17, 2010 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Wait how do you go for breakaways without sacrificing your defense?
It may or may not actually be possible; I was just trying to find something Crosby could improve on, which is very, very difficult.
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A grades...
You could give Sid an A every month on motivation alone. You know, I see a lot of people out there questioning why he is the face of the league? Anybody see what Pat Kane (like this kid too, tho) did with the Cup? Took it out in Hollywood to hit some Clubs! Anybody see what Ovie did the past week? Drunken partied in a Speedo on a boat with some Club Dancers from a Moscow Club. What’s Sid do in the off season? When he’s not with the cup visiting hospitals, troops and his entire hometown, who really knows. He’s never in the headlines…probably busy boring the media while spending time with family. Reason enough why this kid is the face of this game! He respects it and knows anything he does is being watched…
by Wags24 on Jun 16, 2010 9:34 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Agreed
I’m sure Sid has his fun, but I’m glad he’s not causing any trouble (that we know of) and that he’s staying out of the headlines when he’s off the ice. I did see he finally bought his own house though, that’s good…
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by NoCal-SteelCity on Jun 16, 2010 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions
We Are Very Lucky----
We have Sid as our guy. He is our guy, our Captin.
Sid is in a class all by himself. It is hard to find anything negative to say about him and I cannot add to that.
I would take one of Sid over 10 Ovies or 5 Kanes, any day, anyhow.
I think Sid wants to be known as a good human being first, and a great Hockey player, second. It shows in everything he does.
BTW Frank, excellent post.
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by PensFanInDenver on Jun 16, 2010 9:45 AM EDT reply actions
I would take one of Sid over 10 Ovies or 5 Kanes
Let’s not do an injustice to players like Crosby or Ovechkin by including Kane in the same sentence. He has a long way to go before he’s in the “best player in the world” conversation.
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Oh, Yes, I was just throwing that out because he has been seen carrying the Cup around everywhere lately…his was just the first name to come to mind. Jay Leno Monday night, etc.
I would agree, Kane does not belong in the same category as Sid or Ovie. But he does have alot of raw talent with which he will build from.
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by PensFanInDenver on Jun 16, 2010 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
See, if we’re speaking solely about Kane, I don’t think he’s ever going to crack 100 pts per season. He definitely came close this year, but he’s not that sort of player. Statistically, this doesn’t make him a “great” player, but I really think it makes him a better player if only for the versatility that he can bring. By that I mean, he’s not going to draw $9 mill a season, but he can fill a strong playmaker role on any team for $4 – $5 mill per. Oddly enough, I think that makes him a more deadly player than most, but certainly not the best.
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I really said what I said because of Wags24 stating the Ovie was drunk—again—in Moscow and Kane parading around the LA clubs, etc. I was speaking theoretically.
I would want Sid on my team if I was playing Badmitton!
As for Kane, I think it is very interesting that he scored the same type of GWG Sid did during the Gold Medal game at the Olympics…….the comparisons to that keep on flowing…
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by PensFanInDenver on Jun 16, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh I agree. It was the first thing that popped into my mind when he scored that goal.
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After I was finished asking myself “wtf just happened,” and “did that really go in or are is it going to take them 10 minutes to clean up all the sticks and gloves because it didn’t?” that’s exactly what I thought of. Kane’s goal was much more soft than Sid’s though. Leighton (should’ve) saw the puck all the way, whereas Sid’s was much more sneakier. Hell, he shot it so fast I didn’t see it go in until Doc Emrick yelled.
I've told [a 9 months pregnant] Nathalie that she can't have the baby on a game night. I'm not missing a playoff game. -Mario Lemieux in 1993
by PensFan8725 on Jun 17, 2010 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Next year
Sid’s numbers will keep going up. He continues to become more and more confident in his game. Sid was dangerous already before he turned himself into a sniper and breakaway/shootout expert. Now he is downright deadly with the puck as defenders and goalies must give equal respect to the pass and the shot.
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by PensAreYourDaddy on Jun 16, 2010 10:48 AM EDT reply actions
I can’t imagine where he’d be if he had just one competent line mate to skate with.
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The only possible criticism I could offer of Sid is that he sometimes still lets his frustration get the better of him on the ice, i.e. the Zetterberg incident. The frustration in itself is not a problem, you just gotta channel it better.
I think seeing that from players every now and then, especially from a 22 year old, is normal and good. I don’t want him to be a robot on the ice like he is in interviews. That frustration lets us know he still cares a ton about winning.
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He's still a kid
There’s always room to improve. A couple more years will change that.
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I think his emoitions are his biggest strength, but also his biggest weakness. His emotions give him that drive to win, the drive to be better than anyone else. But, at the same time, when things aren’t going right, it’s his biggest weakness; his emotions take him right out of the game. I believe that, with time, he’ll learn to control them when the going gets tough.
Still, if that’s his biggest weakness, that’s pretty damn good if you ask me.
I've told [a 9 months pregnant] Nathalie that she can't have the baby on a game night. I'm not missing a playoff game. -Mario Lemieux in 1993
by PensFan8725 on Jun 17, 2010 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions
It is disheartening to me
to hear the “Crosby sucks” chants at virtually every away arena now, Part of it is just reflective of the derogatory society we live in today, part if it is overexposure and our desire to see the mighty fall and to root for the underdog, and part is that only Pens fans get to see Crosby in every game and marvel at his effort and skill level and leadership. He is EXACTLY what everyone wants their stars and leaders and kids to be like, but instead Crosby Sucks rings through the stands. Really a shame.
usually it just motivates him to kick more ass and take more names. ask flyers fans. they know.
STAAL FOR SELKE. SIDNEY FOR EVERY OTHER ONE OR JUST THE HART AND THE MESSIER LEADERSHIP AWARD. THAT IS ACCEPTABLE.
by katielynn906 on Jun 16, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Exactly.
Espo said the same thing—he said when the fans booed and jeered him he said he was motivated and he knew he had done his job well.
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by PensFanInDenver on Jun 16, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
usually it just motivates him to kick more ass and take more names
Unfortunately, it makes me want to shoot people and punch babies, even though I know in some ways it is a sign of respect. I think his dad feels the same way. You should have heard what he was saying about Caps fans during the playoffs last year…language that I can’t repeat here.
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by PensAreYourDaddy on Jun 16, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
oh, no, i agree 100% with you. i hate it. abhor it, even. and you go, mr. crosby.
STAAL FOR SELKE. SIDNEY FOR EVERY OTHER ONE OR JUST THE HART AND THE MESSIER LEADERSHIP AWARD. THAT IS ACCEPTABLE.
by katielynn906 on Jun 16, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Unfortunately, it makes me want to shoot people and punch babies
Lmao! Just about the most frank statement I’ve heard on here. Just fyi, I feel the same way.
I've told [a 9 months pregnant] Nathalie that she can't have the baby on a game night. I'm not missing a playoff game. -Mario Lemieux in 1993
by PensFan8725 on Jun 17, 2010 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions
You should have heard what he was saying about Caps fans during the playoffs last year…language that I can’t repeat here.
When was this? I never heard about that. Did you see him at the game or something?
Well, it is his son. I can’t imagine what sitting in front 20,000+ people chanting derogatory things at my son (if I had one) for 3 hours would do to me.
I've told [a 9 months pregnant] Nathalie that she can't have the baby on a game night. I'm not missing a playoff game. -Mario Lemieux in 1993
by PensFan8725 on Jun 17, 2010 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Game 5 last year at Verizon Center, we were in the suite next to him (and the marios, the genos, shero, morehouse, etc). I figure he’s a former pro, his kid has been famous for a long time, so he probably has a pretty thick skin, but it was oddly refreshing to see that he was as pissed as we were with the things they were saying (which went well beyond even the usual “crosby sucks”). “Classless sob’s” was one of the nicest comments he had for their crowd.
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by PensAreYourDaddy on Jun 17, 2010 8:29 AM EDT up reply actions
People chant "Crosby Sucks" because he's simply better
Poeple always chant “Kobe Sucks” but in reality, they’d embrace him if he was on their team.
Everybody in the NHL would love to get Crosby on their team, but in reality, they’re just bummed out because he’s a Penguin. Other then Capitals fans, I don’t think anybody truly hates him.
People need to admit it: you have a Croby jeresy hanging on your wall. Lol!
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I'm sure Philly fans hate him
But you’re right about the Kobe analogy. Kobe is public enemy #1 in just about every NBA city, and every one of those NBA cities would love to have him on their team. It is a certain sign of respect to be hated by opposing fans. Sure, there’s extra motivation with Kobe, but with Sid it’s because he’s not only the best, but because he’s the “Golden Boy” of the NHL. Jealousy will make a fan do/say some crazy things….
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by NoCal-SteelCity on Jun 16, 2010 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions
The "Golden Boy" has the hardware to back it up
The Flyers and Penguins are rivals. I’m sure they boo Chris Pronger when they come to town.
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The Not So Good Category
If you’re looking for something to insert in that section just take his performance in the 7 games against Montreal.
After netting 109 points in 81 games (1.34 points per game) in the regular season and then 14 points in 6 games (2.33 ppg) in the 1st round against Ottawa, Crosby netted only 5 points in 7 games against the Canadians (0.71 ppg) and only scored one goal in the entire series.
Is it nitpicking? Sure. Should Geno and other players have stepped up? You bet. But sorry, Sid’s performance and lack of production against Montreal is a huge reason the Penguins didn’t play Philly in the conference finals. The Pens rely on him to be their biggest goal scorer and he didn’t come through. That’s a fact. And that should go in the not so good category.
Should Geno and other players have stepped up? You bet. But sorry, Sid’s performance and lack of production against Montreal is a huge reason the Penguins didn’t play Philly in the conference finals.
Geno takes much more of the fall than Sid here. Opposing coaches were obsessed with getting out their first D pairing when Sid was on the ice, and from a defensemen point of view, Malkin had an easier time than Crosby. Crosby was also doing as much as he could given the situation. His 25.0 relative Corsi and +2.76 adjusted +/- led the team in the playoffs, which means that whenever he was on the ice, he was playing in the opponent’s end more often than not. Malkin’s point totals should be much better given the difference in D pairing.
The bottom line is that no team ever attempted to contain Sid to the extent that Montreal did. He was constantly harassed, tripped, obstructed, etc. but because it was the playoffs, the refs thought it best to “let the boys play.” No player, not Gretzky, Lemeuix, Jagr, or whomever, would ever be able to put up significant numbers playing with below average top six forwards and that much defensive attention. That we made it as far as we did in the playoffs is in large part due to Sid’s work.
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by GoPens! on Jun 16, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
this.
STAAL FOR SELKE. SIDNEY FOR EVERY OTHER ONE OR JUST THE HART AND THE MESSIER LEADERSHIP AWARD. THAT IS ACCEPTABLE.
by katielynn906 on Jun 16, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
This.
I've told [a 9 months pregnant] Nathalie that she can't have the baby on a game night. I'm not missing a playoff game. -Mario Lemieux in 1993
by PensFan8725 on Jun 17, 2010 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions
The Not-So-Good Top Ten List
From the home office in Cole Harbor, Nova Scotia…
10. He beat Team USA. this wasn’t a big problem for me
9. He bought a house. I’m sure we’ll all miss the endless jokes surrounding life in Mario’s basement.
8. Missed twice on the shootout. really only once, one of his “misses” went in but for some reason wasn’t reviewed
7. Didn’t shake Lidstrom’s hand. ok, last year, but needed to fill a spot here
6. Forgot to ask Jimmy Howard’s permission before he started pounding on Zetterberg. who knew Z couldn’t stick up for himself?
5. His brilliant play and perfect image continue to fuel hatred among non-Pens fans. haters gonna hate
4. His number 87 was used in determining seating capacity of 18087 at the new arena, and I was 18088th on the list for tickets!
3. Even people trying to pronounce his name correctly sometimes sound like they are saying “Cindy”
2. Singlehandedly responsible for continued lack of American interest in hockey by declining offer to do a Top 10 list on Letterman….
and the #1 Not-So-Good thing about Sidney Crosby:
1. Two words…playoff beard.
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by PensAreYourDaddy on Jun 16, 2010 12:22 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
My husband says Sid use his his Sharpie more often! LOL
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by PensFanInDenver on Jun 16, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Forgot to ask Jimmy Howard’s permission before he started pounding on Zetterberg. who knew Z couldn’t stick up for himself?
I know I shouldn’t be surprised to hear this from a goalie who plays on the same team as Osgood, but Howard’s comments after that game were pathetic. Some rookie who has accomplished nothing calls Sid a baby for fighting Zetterberg on the ice. This comment seems to embody all the lack of class and utter stupidity that a lot of the online Red Wings fan base is all about.
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Howard’s comments didn’t sit well with me either. Why couldn’t he just be a humble first-year goaltender rather than a pompous and public no-nothing jerk? I was elated when the Wings were knocked out of the playoffs, if only because of him in particular.
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THIS, and what GoPens! said.
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by PensAreYourDaddy on Jun 16, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I have always really respected the Red Wings, except when they play the Pens of course, and I thought Jimmy Howard was pretty classless with his comments. He said something along the lines of Sid always doing this when he had only played something like 40 games himself. And it’s not like they are in the same conference! And couldn’t Spanx (aka Zetterberg) stand up for himself? Maybe Sid let his frustration get the better of him but I think Howard should have stayed out of the scrum and he should have put a sock in it afterwards too.
I must add, for that reason alone I sincerely hope that either Myers or Duchene walk away with the Calder. Sorry, my grudges last a long time.
i hope duchene wins it. he just seems like SUCH a good kid. i think myers’ll take it, though.
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by katielynn906 on Jun 16, 2010 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
He is. He’s a great player and he comes across as a genuinely nice guy in interviews. And Tyler Myers is just a beast. I would be happy with either, especially because I am over Jimmy Howard.
agreed. =)
STAAL FOR SELKE. SIDNEY FOR EVERY OTHER ONE OR JUST THE HART AND THE MESSIER LEADERSHIP AWARD. THAT IS ACCEPTABLE.
by katielynn906 on Jun 16, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope Myers wins it. Howard seems like such an arrogant kid. He’s probably all riled up that he finished his rookie season with a SV% above .920. Boy does he have a lot to learn…
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Maybe some humility and the ability to a) stay out of fights especially so he doesn’t grab anyone from behind while he still has his goalie gear on and b) keeps his mouth shut afterwards.
This is one of the reasons I went off Lundqvist for a while in March too. Didn’t he tell Sid to stop diving, when he really should have been minding his own business?
Yes, he did. Which is funny because NYR players lost their right to comment on other players’ on-ice behavior when Avery joined them as a teammate.
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Yup, considering it was Marc Staal who checked him and should have been the one to say something about diving. And then Brandon Dubinsky jumped into the fray. I guess I am back on Lundqvist now, especially since they didn’t make the playoffs, but I thought that was out of line.
As for Avery, exactly.
The thing that pissed me off was that it wasn’t even a dive and Sid got a penalty when Lundqvist didn’t. Sid got cross checked in the ribs right where there’s no padding. The look on Staal’s face was one of “I got caught,” not “oh, he dove.” It figures that the only guy on the ice with enough padding to take on an attack dog went over to Sid and opened his mouth.
I've told [a 9 months pregnant] Nathalie that she can't have the baby on a game night. I'm not missing a playoff game. -Mario Lemieux in 1993
whatevs.
lundqvist is just pissed that his hair looks like florence henderson’s. and that he plays for the rangers.
also, rescue eric staal, shero.
STAAL FOR SELKE. SIDNEY FOR EVERY OTHER ONE OR JUST THE HART AND THE MESSIER LEADERSHIP AWARD. THAT IS ACCEPTABLE.
by katielynn906 on Jun 17, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh I agree. It wasn’t a dive at all. Plus, wasn’t it like the second game after the Olympics or whatever? And If Marc Staal wasn’t arguing about it, which he wasn’t, why did Lundqvist open his mouth? And then Dubinsky got into it when Sid told Hanky to eff off. Oh well…
whatevs. there are worse things. i had honestly forgotten all about it until now, haha. also, i meant marc staal, not eric. dang it.
STAAL FOR SELKE. SIDNEY FOR EVERY OTHER ONE OR JUST THE HART AND THE MESSIER LEADERSHIP AWARD. THAT IS ACCEPTABLE.
by katielynn906 on Jun 17, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
There was so much good in Sid’s game this year that it truly is difficult to come up with the “not so good”. Somehow, I think Sid has many items already listed for self-improvement and I look forward to seeing the results.
My only “not so good” is something the whole team, from coach down, needs to work on, but that I think really does need to be led by Sid in many ways since he is clearly the leader. He needs to learn to accept his level of frustration in a trapping game against him and use that energy to find a way around it. Yes, I absolutely do know that this is a team situation and not Sid’s problem solely, but I did sense that he became more and more frustrated at his inability to adapt sufficiently to get around the trap, in some games. In other games, he seemed to dampen down the energy from frustration so much that he didn’t play with the same originality. I know I’m probably making no sense at all. It’s hard to describe. But, he is talented and intelligent. I think that the extra time this summer is not only beneficial physically but mentally. I hope he is looking at how to channel energy to increase creativity and watching tons of trap team video to see if he is contributing to lack of success by not being as creative as his talent permits him to be in those situations.
Sorry if this is terriby confusing.
This. And maybe another Cup and the Conn Smythe are now Sid’s new motivations. Either way, I hope Sid and the team as a whole figure out a way to beat the trap next season.
Cup and Conn Smythe
Yes, I agree, Sid wants more then one Cup: I would suspect he would like to win a few.
And the Conn Smythe? Absolutely!!
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by PensFanInDenver on Jun 16, 2010 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
With the trail he blazed in the series against Ottawa, I figured the Conn Smythe was his new motivation. And then Montreal happened. Anyway, fingers crossed about the Pens being completely rested come next season, a new system in place to beat the trap, and hopefully Cup numero quatre en route to Pittsburgh.
I have a theory that if the Pens had won game 7 and beaten the Habs, they would’ve definitely beat the Flyers to go to their 3rd straight Cup Final. I’m not as certain, but, dependent on the Flyer series, I think they would’ve taken that momentum and beaten the Hawks for the 4th Cup in Pens history.
I've told [a 9 months pregnant] Nathalie that she can't have the baby on a game night. I'm not missing a playoff game. -Mario Lemieux in 1993
My sister, who is also a Pens fan, felt after the 1st round that the Pens and ‘Hawks would play for the Cup. So she would have agreed with your assessment. I think if they had beaten Montreal, they would have gone to the Final but I am not sure they would have been able to stop the ’Hawks. This isn’t a knock on the Pens at all but I think two long postseasons would have taken their toll eventually. Plus, I think the ‘Hawks had to know that winning with this group of guys was imperative (cap issues and all, you see). Anyway, I would love to see a Pens-’Hawks Final in the coming postseasons. New rivalry maybe?!
I am not sure they would have been able to stop the ’Hawks.
I thought about this for the same reasons you just listed, but I think the Pens Cup Final experience would’ve made it a lot closer of a match up.
I've told [a 9 months pregnant] Nathalie that she can't have the baby on a game night. I'm not missing a playoff game. -Mario Lemieux in 1993
by PensFan8725 on Jun 17, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I think that if they’d made it to the Final (and I agree that they could have beat the Flyers), the team would have found a new form (or: re-found their old form?). They needed at least a little bit of it to get past Montreal, and I think that even a moderate reminder of that way of playing their game would have been enough to spark them and send them on a tear. And then they could very well have beaten the Hawks in what I expect would have been a pretty exciting series.
Sadly, we didn’t get to find out.
Go, Shero, Go!!! And also Brian Burke.
He’d also probably like to take the Rocket (without a tie), Art Ross, and Hart all in one year. Just to say he did it.
Go, Shero, Go!!! And also Brian Burke.
And it’s not out of the realm of possibility either. And he’s only 22. I mean, he became the youngest captain to hoist the Stanley Cup (and he captained his team to back-to-back finals), scored the gold-medal winning goal in the Olympics, and won the Rocket in the space of a year. Here’s to our boys winning another Cup and Sid making more history (by the way, those History Will Be Made ads became a bit of a joke during the playoffs because practically every game resulted in one but Sid didn’t get a look considering his level of play against Ottawa…it’s fine, I am not too bitter). Plus, maybe the spotlight will be off him in the new season as the NHL figures out how to market Jonathan Toews, Patrick Kane, and Taylor-Tyler (is it just me or is the hype machine already starting in order to create the NHL’s next "rivalry’?). That could be a good thing, I think…
I’d like to see him get the Lindsay (formerly Pearson) again. Would be nice to see him recognized by his peers and give the finger to that ESPN players poll done earlier in the year.
The Pens will be back.
by PensAreYourDaddy on Jun 16, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
That ESPN player poll stuff is garbage. They’ll never release the wording of the questions, who was asked, how they responded, or under what circumstances. Any “poll” that met that criteria would be considered unreliable or ignored. And yet this makes the headline on ESPN.
I wouldn’t be surprised if one of the questions was “Who do you think is the whiniest player in the NHL? Sidney Crosby or Eric Godard?” And then: “OMGZ Crosby is the whiniest by 50%!!!”
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this.
STAAL FOR SELKE. SIDNEY FOR EVERY OTHER ONE OR JUST THE HART AND THE MESSIER LEADERSHIP AWARD. THAT IS ACCEPTABLE.
by katielynn906 on Jun 16, 2010 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
That is something I can agree with: the entire team and coaches need to focus on overcoming a trapping-style team or we will continue to see the same issues.
I hope to see Bylsma step up to the plate on this one. I still cannot believe how frustrated Sid was during the Montreal series. I won’t beat it til it’s dead, but lineups, matchups matter, and it is up to the coaches to figure out what works and what doesn’t—it’s not up to the players to line up with who they feel like at the moment.
Sid is not satisfied to win ONE Cup: he wants more.
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by PensFanInDenver on Jun 16, 2010 6:43 PM EDT reply actions
Sid in the last 15 games
of the regular season and the 6 games of the Ottawa series was the best hockey I’ve ever seen him play. Just thinking about it makes me really excited for next season. I think the extra rest combined with the extra determination (courtesy of Montreal) will bring Super Sid out (no comparisons to Mario intended).
My prediction: a 50+ G 70+ A, 120+ point season for his second Art Ross. Whether or not the Cup is ours depends on other performances as well (namely Malkin), so I’ll stay away from that.
Since we’re talking about Sid, kind of a random note: Anyone remember this goal? It’s kind of bad quality so here’s the feed at NHL.com. Out of all the amazing ones he’s scored, this is my favorite. While I was watching the game, I remember thinking “never in a million years could I deflect the puck twice like that, all the while keeping my stick under the crossbar.” Amazing.
I've told [a 9 months pregnant] Nathalie that she can't have the baby on a game night. I'm not missing a playoff game. -Mario Lemieux in 1993
While I'm at it...
this game was awesome. It’s the Geno of ‘08 (man, I miss that Geno..I think it’ll be back next year though) and one of the best games I’ve ever seen Sid play. Oh and the Caps got shut out the very same night..just fyi.
I've told [a 9 months pregnant] Nathalie that she can't have the baby on a game night. I'm not missing a playoff game. -Mario Lemieux in 1993
Oh and I want to know everyone's favorite Sid goal.
forgot to mention that.
I've told [a 9 months pregnant] Nathalie that she can't have the baby on a game night. I'm not missing a playoff game. -Mario Lemieux in 1993
Favorite Sid Goal
It’s hard to pick just one favorite goal of Sid’s. It really is. Something for all of us to think about.
One Who Lives And Breathes All Things Penguins
by PensFanInDenver on Jun 17, 2010 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions
All time.
I've told [a 9 months pregnant] Nathalie that she can't have the baby on a game night. I'm not missing a playoff game. -Mario Lemieux in 1993
by PensFan8725 on Jun 17, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Do we want 50 goal Sid, or 80 assist Kid?
My ex wife will still rape him the same…. in which case we may get neither but I digress.
It was nice him to get the scoring title, just cause, but I want the 80 assist one, 50 goal sid doesnt help us score a title, unless Staal goes nuts on the third line/PP/PK/Hero Line.
Sorry I know the last is really EA fantasy but dammit, why cant we play Crosby-Staal-Malkin Orpik-Gonchar for 60 min dammit. Dammit.
Dammit.
Oh, and if sid is scoring 50, what do you want Geno doing?
I’ll take 50-goal, 80-assist Sid. I see no reason why he can’t be both, provided he has guys on his line who can finish plays.
The Pens will be back.
by PensAreYourDaddy on Jun 21, 2010 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
You’re entitled to your own opinions, but how does a 50 goal scorer on the team not help our title hopes? Just because we didn’t win it this year doesn’t mean anything.
Basically, Sid realized that that goal scoring winger the Pens have been searching for him since Day 1 isn’t going to come because of the cap space. So Captain Crosby took into his own hands and became that goal scorer. The first line seems a lot more useful with Billy G and Kuni opening up space for the now dangerous goal scorer, Sid; rather than Billy G and Kuni opening up space for play making Sid to pass to one of his wings and hope they can finish. So, I like and think 50 goal-scorer Sid at this time because it’s what’s best for the team.
If we do happen to find someone that can score goals with Sid, then he can go back to play making…anddd that is exactly why he is the best player in the world.
I've told [a 9 months pregnant] Nathalie that she can't have the baby on a game night. I'm not missing a playoff game. -Mario Lemieux in 1993

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