Pensburgh wrapup: The Deadline Pickups
Heading into the trade deadline general manager Ray Shero's hands were tied to the salary cap. He had to be careful about who and what to acquire. So defenseman Jordan Leopold and forward Alexei Ponikarovsky came in, and "sadly" Martin Skoula went goodbye.
Interesting stat: Leopold's 10 even strength goals tied him for first in the NHL amongst full-time defensemen (with Lubomir Visnovsky and Ian White) in the 2009-10 season. Even more of a twist -- all three of those players were traded mid-season.
The Good: Jordan Leopold added another defenseman who could skate and move the puck well, and during the regular season he came as advertised, when he played 20:26 for the Penguins in the regular season and in all capacities too. In the 20 games he spent regular season, he scored 4 goals, more than the other trade deadline pickup!
The Bad: Andy "The Expert" Sutton's hit on Leopold in Game 2 of the first round basically ended Leopold's season. Though Leopold returned for the last six games of the run, he played just 17:42 per game (compared to the 19:31 he played in Game 1, or the 20:26 average from the season). Perhaps understandably, Leopold wasn't quite himself after the concussion. Not that he was bad, but it definitely took the wind out of his sails.
Final verdict: Leopold did exactly what he was brought into do before he suffered an injury. Can't ask for much more than that. It was a quick peak at what he can bring a team, and I think he acquitted himself well.
Question and debate: Currently the Pens have only 3 tried-and-true NHL defensemen on the roster next season, would you like to see them act to bring back Leopold? What if it came down to afford retaining either Leopold or fellow UFA Mark Eaton, which would you prefer?
Interesting stat: After scoring a goal in his first game as a Penguin, Ponikarovsky only scored 2 more the next 26 games.
The Good: Ponikarovsky added size to Evgeni Malkin's line. He came over in a trade from Toronto and seemed to find a groove, in his first 12 games he recorded 2 goals and 7 assists and was fitting in. Then in the home finale, Poni boarded Josh Bailey and got a 2 game suspension and from then out it was all down hill.
The Bad: He was a non-factor in the post-season, eventually becoming a healthy scratch and reportedly even blew off his end of season meeting with Penguin brass. Ponikarovsky was brought in for post-season play, despite not having any playoff games after the lockout, and it was obvious that he never got comfortable when the stakes were the highest.
Final verdict: When it comes to trade deadline acqusitions; you win some, you lose some and this trade has to go in Ray Shero's loss column, no matter what happens with Luca Caputi's career. Ponikarovsky was brought in to make a difference and help provide the Penguins with a top six scoring winger and he failed to do it.
Question and debate: Any chance you'd see Ponikarovsky back? Before you immediately snap no, he's been a consistent 20 goal, 30+ assist guy after the lockout and that's production the Penguins just don't have in their ranks from wingers.
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No one was digging the Leopold and Poni efforts? Come on, that shot of Tambellini leaping over Leo is gold, baby!
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by PensAreYourDaddy on Jun 17, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
The biggest egg Poni layed was in the Montreal series where the whole team stunk. He got more physical and his backchecking started to come around. I know I’m probably alone, but a 20 goal winger isn’t exactly easy to come by for 2M anymore, and I wouldn’t hate it if he got another year to prove himself. I think with a little more time, he might be OK on Malkin’s wing. It’s not like he knew what the playoffs were all about before he got here.
That said. . .
He’ll probably get more than 2M given the shortage of quality wingers, folks are gonna pay out the wazoo for average wingers.
Im with you on this one. Poni has proven over ther years he can be a 20 goal 50 point guy playing with Toronto. I know he performed poorly in his time with the pens, but especially with the crop of FA out there, I think our best bet is to give Poni another shot.
by StripesForLife on Jun 17, 2010 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Dupuis ($1.4 million cap hit) scored 18 goals with no pp time and less relative top-six forward time than Poni. I think we have plenty of guys who are capable of potting 20 over the season. We need more players who can net 30 or 35 playing with two of the best centers in the world.
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Leopold vs. Eaton
This was a slam dunk two months ago. Unfortunately, Leopold got KO’d by Sutton and the situation immediately changed . It’s not fair to Leopold, but I don’t think GMRS can give the guy more than a 1 year contract based on Leopold’s history of concussions. Will Leopold take that deal? probably not, since someone, somewhere, will give him a decent contract based on his solid play in Florida/Pittsburgh this past season (say, 2 years $4-5 million)
I think Eaton will be signed for something close to what he’s making now (2 years $3.5 mil or so).
Leo yes; Poni no
Final verdict: Leopold did exactly what he was brought into do before he suffered an injury. Can’t ask for much more than that…I think he acquitted himself well.
Totally agree.
How do you think he’d be w/ Letang on the #1 PP?
B/w Leo and Eaton, I think it comes down to money, probably. Whoever is more affordable will get signed, which probably means Eaton—UNLESS Shero sees Leopold as PART of the solution in a post-Gonchar world.
Any chance you’d see Ponikarovsky back? Before you immediately snap no, he’s been a consistent 20 goal, 30+ assist guy
No. He has no heart. He had his chance. 27 games is not insignificant and he was consistently useless. Moreover, he’ll be overpaid as a free agent. Let someone else be saddled with his low output-high salary combo.
B/w Leo and Eaton, I think it comes down to money, probably.
I think there’s a more to it than just money. Leopold is a much better Dman than Eaton. Leo finished with a better adjusted +/- against exponentially more difficult competition compared to Eaton. And he’s much more offensively gifted. I’d go after Leopold and hold Eaton as a back up.
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Leopold, an offensive defenseman, is a different kind of defenseman than Eaton, who’s a more stay-at-home kind of guy. Just because Eaton scored fewer goals than Leopold doesn’t mean he isn’t a good defenseman. It means they each have two different jobs. Leopold to create offense and Eaton to prevent it.
Just because Eaton scored fewer goals than Leopold doesn’t mean he isn’t a good defenseman. It means they each have two different jobs. Leopold to create offense and Eaton to prevent it.
I know they’re supposed to have different “roles,” but Leo is much better at both offense and defense than Eaton. Like I said earlier, Leo finished with a better adjusted +/- against exponentially more difficult competition compared to Eaton. It’s tough to argue that Eaton is providing us with something we can’t get from Leopold.
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+/- can be deceiving, particularly when it comes to defensemen. Because Eaton is more of a defensive, stay-at-home defenseman, he probably plays the majority of his even strength minutes against one of the opponent’s better forward lines, when the Penguins are most likely to get scored on, which would heavily influence the outcome of his +/-.
he probably plays the majority of his even strength minutes against one of the opponent’s better forward lines
QCOMP stats don’t seem to bear this out. Eaton’s QCOMP rating was -0.004 while Leopold’s was 0.098 (1st among Penguins Dmen). Leopold also sees tougher minutes because he starts in the d-zone much more often than Eaton.
+/- can be deceiving, particularly when it comes to defensemen.
+/- isn’t the best stat, but the adjusted metric is step in the right direction since it adjusts for team differences. It basically measures your +/- relative to your teammates, and Eaton’s was -0.28 to Leo’s -0.05. Leo’s looks better, and when you consider that he plays tougher minutes against better competition, he definitely comes out as a much stronger defensive player than Eaton.
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Heck, one reason we supposedly went after Leopold was his success against Ovechkin. Might be worth noting that AO scored just one goal in two games against us after we acquired Leo (not counting the EN goal).
The Pens will be back.
by PensAreYourDaddy on Jun 17, 2010 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Poni also outwitted Vizzini on the Cliffs of Insanity, so take that into consideration.
by RuthenianCowboy on Jun 17, 2010 8:42 AM EDT reply actions
I’d take Leo over …why does Eaton have no nick-name?…Eats?
I’d take Leo over Eats if the price was the same, if Leo is much more…ehh maybe I’d go back to the value play and take Eats. I liked Leo a lot, I just think post concussion he was a bit deflated, to no fault of his own. I think a summers rest and he is back to normal.
BRENT
Yes to Leopold; NO to Poni. I think Leopold did play well and did what was asked of it.
Poni laid a big egg and I do not want him back. Another big under-achiever.
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by PensFanInDenver on Jun 17, 2010 9:09 AM EDT reply actions
What the Pens do on defense depends on whether Sarge is resigned (2 years/$4M per year max). If he’s resigned, then the Pens have 3 offensive blue liners, so Eaton is the choice over Leopold since he’s better defensively (I’m assuming Lovejoy is on the roster, which seems a certainty). If Sarge isn’t resigned, then I hope Shero can sign both Eaton and Leopold ($2M each). I think there will be some interest in Leopold so he will get a salary bump, but he thought he went to heaven when traded to the Pens so I think he’d want to stay here.
I probably am one of the 3 Pens fans that think Shero should resign Poni if he can negotiate a reasonable contract. I’ve spent some time looking at FAs and don‘t see a preferable alternative. Kovalchuk, Marleau, Stempniak, Demetra, and Frolov will be out of range. Afinogenov is Malkin Lite, but just awful defensively, and probably out of range anyway (watched a Sabres playoff game last night from 2006, and, man, he is REALLY fast.) There are some near retirement players — Paul Kariya, Ray Whitney, Owen Nolan — who might be had on 1 year contracts to be on a Cup contender, but Whitney is small and poor defensively, Kariya had an awful season and is clearly on the decline, and Nolen is a Guerin clone who was a 3rd liner last year on a poor Wild team. Raffi Torres is a Kunitz clone who the Pens were reportedly interested in at the trade deadline last year, but isn’t a great skater and is weak defensively. Plus, while Pens fans were disappointed with Poni, Sabres fans wanted to throw Torres out of town for his poor attitude and ZERO goals.
Then there are the guys who used to be good but have been declining for a couple of years — Alex Tanguay, Christopher Higgins, and Marek Svatos. Any one might be worth taking a chance on as a second added forward on a low cost contract, but not as the prime off season addition.
There really are only 3 decent cap possibilities to replace Fedotenko— Poni, Colby Armstrong, and Vinny Prospal. Prospal had a good season last year but is primarily a center, has been wildly inconsistent, and is poor defensively. Armstrong would be welcomed back but really is a 3rd line player.
The PG had a picture of Poni after the last loss to the Canadians, sitting in the locker room by himself in uniform with a dejected look, and you could see he really cared and perhaps was disappointed he hadn’t played better (he did have a slapper in that game that was slightly deflected in). He’s only 30, he big (6’4", 220#), he’s been a consistent 20 goal 2-way player for years without a Malkin centering him, he’s had few injuries, and has been a plus player every year except for his few games with the Pens.. He can slap it when crossing the blueline, can crash the net, and can play in the corners. He had his moments last year — the tic-tac-toe pass to, I believe, Crosby for a goal, a couple crushing hits, a few near misses in the crease, a terrific run down back check, but he just seemed lost, perhaps overwhelmed. After 9 years in Toronto (and becoming a Canadian citizen) he was suddenly living out of a suitcase in a hotel room, which had to be a shock to him. I think with a full season with Malkin he’ll put up 25-30 goals and help defensively (unlike most of the other FA forwards). The issue to me is what it will cost to sign him, since the FA class is so weak. I think there’s cap room for 2 years at up to $3M, but that may not be enough.
One note on re-signing Poni: If they’re even considering it, I think it will matter a lot whether Malkin wants to play with him. If Malkin has a winger he doesn’t trust with the puck, then that winger rarely gets to touch the puck — often to the detriment of the line. So Malkin’s attitude toward Poni would surely factor in.
Go, Shero, Go!!! And also Brian Burke.
Although, if Billy decides to retire (which it looks like he might), Poni did look pretty good with Siddo while Geno was out…I’m willing to give Poni another shot and I definitely hope Shero tries to sign Leo.
I've told [a 9 months pregnant] Nathalie that she can't have the baby on a game night. I'm not missing a playoff game. -Mario Lemieux in 1993
That’s true. I didn’t mind Poni with Sid. But it would feel like a bit like a step in the wrong direction. Also, if & when Bylsma shifts lines around, there might be nowhere to put Poni. We probably want a little more versatility from our players than “I can only play on the top line”.
Go, Shero, Go!!! And also Brian Burke.
I'm in the Poni park I guess.....
Hate to give up on a guy after a few months, given what he has consistently done over the past few years…. Can’t just fritter away young talent too many times for 3 month hired guns without making an effort to take a long view with what you get. If Poni never does get going next year, there’s a chance he can be dealt at deadline time. At leaswt then you can say he was (and we were) given a fair shake at trying to make it work.
Leopold is a keeper, since I’m assuming that Sarge is a goner.
Probabaly hanging out with Vladimir Vujtek.
by Hooks Orpik on Jun 17, 2010 10:08 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
and reportedly even blew off his end of season meeting with Penguin brass.
Does Hooks or anyone else have a link to this?
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Yeah, it’s probably not a bog deal. Perhaps in some situations Shero wouldn’t even scedule an exit talk if the team had no further plans for a player. But he’d probably be classy enough to meet w them anyways and tell them that.
by Hooks Orpik on Jun 17, 2010 10:11 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I heard about it, too, but later I also heard a few people intentionally talk about the exit interviews as optional. They weren’t specifically talking about Poni, but it did seem as if they were trying to acquit him.
Go, Shero, Go!!! And also Brian Burke.
totally agree, PR
and if dissed Shero on the way out the door, then good riddance
there is a reason why Burke dealt him at the deadline
Burke isn’t perfect, but he does REQUIRE that guys play hard and has a strong preference for guys who are hard to play against
Poni is big, but he’s soff
Burke also doesn’t really like players from outside of North America. And yeah, Poni’s that guy who just doesn’t use his size the way you think he should, and Burke is trying to build a rough, tough, and hard-hitting team. He likely wasn’t going to re-sign Poni, so he traded him for a decent, almost-NHL-ready prospect. Not too surprising, I suppose!
Go, Shero, Go!!! And also Brian Burke.
Burke and Ron Wilson are both acolytes of Lou Lamoriello’s. They played college hockey for him back when he ran the sports program at Providence College and both men consider him a mentor of sorts, which doesn’t surprise me. Burke is kind of a louder, more abrasive version of Lou.
kadri’s the kid we’re gonna take. is that the kid you want?
yeah.
well, we’re gonna take him.
STAAL FOR SELKE. SIDNEY FOR EVERY OTHER ONE OR JUST THE HART AND THE MESSIER LEADERSHIP AWARD. THAT IS ACCEPTABLE.
by katielynn906 on Jun 17, 2010 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I searched for it (half heartedly, I admit) to find a link. Couldn’t.
I know for a fact it was reported that Poni may have skipped his exit interview, but whether or not it actually happened seems a little more up in the air.
by Hooks Orpik on Jun 17, 2010 10:09 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Oh ok, I was just wondering if there was any meet to that story. Thanks for the search Hooks.
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“meet” to that story….haha.
The Pens will be back.
by PensAreYourDaddy on Jun 17, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
I wasn’t necessarily making fun of the typo, just thought it was a funny accidental pun, since the story was about a meeting…
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by PensAreYourDaddy on Jun 17, 2010 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m ok with that. I have little interest in him returning to Pittsburgh as well.
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Poni has little interest in returning to the Pens? As if we mistreated him or didn’t give him an opportunity to shine alongside one of the best centers in the world? What garbage.
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Eh, he can see it any way he wants. It’s probably best that the two have an amicable split and that’s that. If he’s going to go and trash the organization down the road then the organization can trash his image. Not that he didn’t do that himself with the numbers he (didn’t) put up.
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That's not how I read it
I read it as he has little interest in returning to the Pens because he is looking to fetch the biggest contract he can find – and that ain’t coming from the Pens.
by catesinator on Jun 17, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I was pretty happy with Leo’s season from the deadline on, but I really think that injury in the Sens series had lingering side effects that may have hampered his play for the remainder of the playoff run. It could’ve been one of two things in my mind: 1) He was still injured and trying to play through it or 2) The injury got in his head (literally and figuratively I suppose) and he kind of played out the rest of the playoffs out of a minor sense of fear/concern.
Whatever the case, it didn’t look like Leo was giving his all after he was hurt. Whether this was a physical restraint or a mental one will likely never be known exactly, but his play left more to be desired.
With that said though, I’m not opposed to seeing him in Pittsburgh again next season or even the season after. I think he was a pretty good fit and could provide a little bit of an offensive edge while also playing pretty good D.
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No Poni please...
The answer is not necessarily to find a free agent winger, but rather a third line center like Malhotra from San Jose to take Staal’s spot. I’ve seen the comments on this, and I like the idea. You don’t break the bank for wingers with many warts when you have answers in house.
I thought Poni was a good acquisition at the deadline, but it just did not work out. Best to cut losses than to double down in the face of strong evidence.
by Mario Lemieux #66 on Jun 17, 2010 12:54 PM EDT reply actions
Leopold vs. Eaton...
What are the Penguins priorities?
If you assume Gonchar is gone,
which seems like a 99% probability,
then priorities would seem to be:
1. A Top D (not named Leopold or Eaton)
2. 2 Forwards – possibly Cooke + ?
3. Then the rest of the D (Lovejoy + 2 veterans)
Thus, it will likely come to down $ remaining when it is time to sign Leopold and/or Eaton.
Sounds like Leopold will have slightly higher market value, and Eaton and Shero have a long history of being loyal to each other. The $$$ say Eaton is more likely.
They could end up signing both—with Eaton being the more likely of the two—however, it may also depend on who they sign as priority 1 above.
by Mario Lemieux #66 on Jun 17, 2010 1:01 PM EDT reply actions
As much as I REALLY want Cooke back...
NOOOOOOOOOOO
Don’t leave, Cookie Monster!
"90% of the game is physical. The other half is mental." - Yogi Berra
Keeping Cooke should be the Pens priority. OMG
If he leaves…….he better not! This is the one guy Shero had better work on to keep.
Period.
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by PensFanInDenver on Jun 17, 2010 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Defensive Priorities
I have suggested this before, but got little reaction:
Bring back Joey Mormina and pair him with Lovejoy on the third defensive pairing. They were outstanding together at WBS in 08-09 but he was not retained.
Play Letang with Orpik as the first pairing. That gives you two shutdown pairings and three hitters. Bring back Leopold and Eaton to compete with Goligoski for the second pairing. Trade the loser for a decent wing. Bring up Engelland as the seventh defenseman.
i think leo was a great pickup at the trade deadline. the concussion thing (damn you, sutton!) didn’t help, but i think we should keep him around. if we had to pick between leo and eat n’ park (there’s your nickname, spook) , as much as it would break my heart, i’d have to go eaton. i think we’re sorely lacking in defensive defensemen.
so basically, this just reiterates what everyone else said.
STAAL FOR SELKE. SIDNEY FOR EVERY OTHER ONE OR JUST THE HART AND THE MESSIER LEADERSHIP AWARD. THAT IS ACCEPTABLE.
If forced to choose between Eaton & Leopold I think I’d go with Eaton — but only because we know exactly what we’re getting with him. I really like both of them, though, and would prefer not to have to choose.
As a side note: I was really sad when the Leafs traded Ian White. There were 7 players in the trade, and I think the loss of Ian White was enough to mean the Leafs lost that deal. Although I suppose I should be used to the Leafs losing by now …
Go, Shero, Go!!! And also Brian Burke.
the leafs are gonna be good someday! i believe it!
STAAL FOR SELKE. SIDNEY FOR EVERY OTHER ONE OR JUST THE HART AND THE MESSIER LEADERSHIP AWARD. THAT IS ACCEPTABLE.
by katielynn906 on Jun 17, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Leafs
me too!
not next year — the year after that though, watch out
this summer: they are going to deal Kaberle for a scoring forward and/or pick(s)
this season: they will answer the question whether Monster can be the #1 b/w the pipes (prob so), they will be one of the toughest teams against which to play with Phaneuf as newly-anointed Captain + Beauchemin, Schenn, and Komisarek (back from IR) on the blueline, they will give Kadri another year to develop, etc.
they already have 1 solid scoring line in Kessel-Bozak-Kulemin and a very stout Top 4 D corps. that’s much better than where they were BB (before Burke).
next year: they add a puck-moving defenceman (someone like Gonchar or Martin from this year’s class) with the $7M that suddenly comes available when they offload Giggy’s ridiculous salary. they should have some money leftover from that $7M to put toward another winger to go w/ Kadri and whoever they score in the Kaberle trade. that will give them 2 solid scoring lines + an excellent Top 5 D corps. IF Monster can come through, they’ll be smiling butcher’s dogs.
When you put it like that it sounds a little better. Every time I think about the Leafs I’m reminded about their pick that could be Hall/Seguin — and whatever they would’ve ended up with next year. And then I die a little inside.
But we will overcome! I predict that the Leafs will win a Cup sometime in the next 50 years!
Go, Shero, Go!!! And also Brian Burke.
interesting...
Tomas Kaberle may have played his last game in a Leafs uniform Saturday.
Because the Leafs didn’t make the playoffs, Kaberle’s no-trade clause will be lifted from June 25 to August 15 this summer. Expect GM Brian Burke to explore his trade options then.
Source: Ottawa Sun
Don’t be surprised if the Maple Leafs finally pull the trigger on a Tomas Kaberle trade.
Kaberle’s no-trade clause will be lifted on June 25th, the date of the NHL’s entry draft and Toronto does not have a first round pick. Brian Burke is believed to be interested in acquiring a top-12 selection. You do the math.
Source: Toronto Sun
Two teams have approached Leafs GM Brian Burke about the possibility of acquiring Tomas Kaberle.
Burke said the inquiries were “more than nibbles.” Kaberle has one year left on his contract. He has a no-trade clause, but it will be temporarily lifted on June 25th and won’t be reinstated until the middle of August. Burke is looking for a scoring forward or a first round pick and he can probably fulfill that goal by trading Kaberle. We’ll keep you posted.
Source: Toronto Star
If Toronto GM Brian Burke had his way, he would trade Tomas Kaberle to the Ducks for winger Bobby Ryan.
Burke selected Ryan in the second round of the 2005 entry draft (just behind a guy named Crosby)and would be more than happy to give the restricted free agent a lucrative long-term deal. Of course, we are fairly certain the Ducks are not interested in moving Ryan for Kaberle. That said, stranger things have happended.
Source: Orange County Register
Two teams have approached Leafs GM Brian Burke about the possibility of acquiring Tomas Kaberle.
Burke said the inquiries were “more than nibbles.” Kaberle has one year left on his contract. He has a no-trade clause, but it will be temporarily lifted on June 25th and won’t be reinstated until the middle of August. Burke is looking for a scoring forward or a first round pick and he can probably fulfill that goal by trading Kaberle. We’ll keep you posted.
Source: Toronto Star
Interesting to see where he ends up.
How much $$$ is Kaberle’s salary?
Don’t suppose we could afford him?
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by PensFanInDenver on Jun 17, 2010 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he’s around 4.25M for another year. Burke’s been making noise about trading him for quite awhile. Kaberle is overpaid (thank you, John Ferguson, jr!), and part of the trouble is that a good player on a poor team doesn’t necessarily translate to a good player on a good/elite team (do we still get to say that the Pens are among the elite?). I haven’t really seen him play in awhile, but I’d prefer we look elsewhere for our D.
Go, Shero, Go!!! And also Brian Burke.
(do we still get to say that the Pens are among the elite?)
I’ll assume that’s a joke.
The Pens will be back.
by PensAreYourDaddy on Jun 18, 2010 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions
I just mean … you know … of course we still think they’re elite. But does getting unceremoniously disposed of in the second round mean that they don’t get to sit at the big kids’ table any more? Clearly, the Flyers aren’t an “elite” team, even though they made it to the Final. So surely the Pens’ disappointing playoff run doesn’t kick them out of the club. I guess I just don’t know what criteria — besides the general awesomeness of the Pens — I’m supposed to use to judge a team’s “eliteness”. And I don’t think that having a few elite players on the roster makes the team elite, so …
Hmm … elite, elite, elite, elite, elite. Doesn’t even look like a real word now, does it?!
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2 Finals appearances in 3 years, I think they would have to fall farther than 1 2nd-round playoff exit before we take them out of the elite group.
The Pens will be back.
by PensAreYourDaddy on Jun 18, 2010 8:17 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree completely. They will soon be very, very good.
So good it will be scary!
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by PensFanInDenver on Jun 17, 2010 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions
So….Did anyone hear that the Devils hired John MacLean as their next sacrificial lamb? The Devils are coach killers. I think that they are going to roast him over a spit and eat him alive. A team that could force coaches like Larry Robinson and Jacques Lemaire into early semi-retirement (both remain on the Devils payroll as ‘special’ coaches) will probably destroy a rookie like MacLean.
And the Penguins need a solid shutdown d-man. They have enough offense at the blueline with Letang and Gologoski. They need to get Orpik some help. You just can’t have Paul Martin. I’ll cry.
maybe then we can actually beat them next year!
STAAL FOR SELKE. SIDNEY FOR EVERY OTHER ONE OR JUST THE HART AND THE MESSIER LEADERSHIP AWARD. THAT IS ACCEPTABLE.
by katielynn906 on Jun 17, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
No, they’ll probably tease us all by winning the division again. The eating alive part won’t come until their obligatory first round flame out. That’s the Devils preferred MO. It’s how they roll.
it’s funny ‘cause it’s true.
STAAL FOR SELKE. SIDNEY FOR EVERY OTHER ONE OR JUST THE HART AND THE MESSIER LEADERSHIP AWARD. THAT IS ACCEPTABLE.
by katielynn906 on Jun 17, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Pretty sure John McClane can take care of himself

.
What?
Wrong guy?
Yippe ki yay….
The Pens will be back.
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