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A Comeback, but Not a Comeback Win: Canes Beat Pens 5-3

Tonight's 5-3 loss to the Carolina Hurricanes got me thinking: what exactly qualifies as a comeback? Is it the ability to comeback, as in tie, or is it the ability to comeback, tie it and proceed to win? I guess that is what defines a headline such as "Comeback Win" and simply "comeback."

Well, the Pens mustered a huge comeback in the third period after trailing 3-0 through the first 40+ minutes. Two goals from Jordan Staal (including one shorthanded), plus another from Chris Kunitz, allowed Pittsburgh to close the gap within the first 12 minutes of the final period. There's the comeback. Unfortunately, the comeback win never came to fruition, as Carolina proceeded to add two more tallies before all was said and done to pick up two points at home and send the Pens packing.

Compared to last night's win over the Stars, this one was filled with whistles and penalties. The night kicked off with an opening bell as Arron Asham and Bryan Allen each dropped the mitts four minutes in. From there the night consisted of a number of minors, some off-setting, that may have contributed to the rhythm of the game. Or more specifically, Pittsburgh's inability to get into the flow early on.

Then again, it was the second game in two days, and we all know what a flat Penguins team looks like in such situations. I can't really say for sure if the Pens looked flat to start this one, but they sure as hell had to dig deep in the third period to try and pull it off.

All in all, the two teams combined for nine power-play chances on the night, but each came up empty handed. Pittsburgh went 0-for-5, while Carolina posted a blank outing on four chances. Nevertheless, the Penguins peppered the Carolina goal all night, registering 40 shots and making Cam Ward really sweat it out to hold on to whatever lead Carolina was working with at the time.

Tough to pin some of those Carolina goals on Brent Johnson too. It seems like two of the first three came off of broken plays, and the one-timer Skinner-to-Ruutu goal that marked the first goal in the second period really was just a defensive breakdown. Then Eric Staal banged home a loose puck completely untouched in front of the Pittsburgh goal before Chad Larose iced it on a breakaway when Kris Letang was caught pinching in the offensive zone. Down a goal with less than three minutes to go is a good enough reason to want to up the offensive pressure, but faulting in your own end and allowing a breakaway doesn't help much either.

But hey, I'm not here to make excuses. Despite the outcome it was still an exciting game to watch. Pens are back at it Tuesday against the Colorado Avalanche.

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I’ll be the first to say….Beej has sucked this year…even though the Pens have asked a lot of him with the back2backs and road games…

HCDB is getting on my nerves! Martin-Letang DOES NOT WORK OMFG OMFG OMFG just stop it right now!

Letang make a clean pass! Really on a 5-3 you can’t put a clean pass on Genos stick?! Jesus.

This game sucked. The only positive thing was Staalsy, Tangradi and the fact we got a steal of a deal with Engo becoming not just a top6 defender but he could be a top4!!!

Skinner is a looking like Rookie Crosby with his amazing diving…yes Crosby dove as a rookie we all know that..stupid figure skate Jeff Foreskin

by Geno McFleury on Nov 13, 2011 1:22 AM EST reply actions  

You got it right. Specially the 5 on 3 PP.

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by Outcast on Nov 13, 2011 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Martin-Letang DOES NOT WORK OMFG OMFG OMFG just stop it right now!

Dude, a thousand times this. Martin is fairly responsible defensively, but not enough so to make up for Letang being as cavalier as he is. For Letang not to get exposed on the defensive side, he almost has to be paired with Orpik.

Hard work always beats talent if talent doesn't work hard.

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by wg1of5 on Nov 13, 2011 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Hmmm.

Reply fail, but you guys know what I mean.

Hard work always beats talent if talent doesn't work hard.

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by wg1of5 on Nov 13, 2011 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I feel bad for Martin. He is one of the best defensive defensemen in the league but some “fans” are calling for his head because all they look at is his -11 stat. He hasn’t been playing great but MAF had a slow start last year, plus he’s playing without his D partner.

Orpik—Letang
Martin—Engo
Nisky—X

This would work SO much better IDK what Disco Dan is doing

by Geno McFleury on Nov 13, 2011 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree with you about the pairings. Having said that you have to admit that Martin hasn’t played well so far even when he was playing with ZM.

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by Outcast on Nov 13, 2011 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Slow starts happen. Martin and Michalek are premier defensemen I’m not too worried about their play not returning to elite level.

by Geno McFleury on Nov 13, 2011 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I am with you. Too early in the season. But they better start getting their play back in the next month or so.

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by Outcast on Nov 13, 2011 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

The plus/minus stat is a bullshit stat anyway.

by SlayerGhaleon on Nov 13, 2011 4:40 PM EST up reply actions   3 recs

Rec’d. Judging any player by their +/- stat is a very poor decision.

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by GoPens! on Nov 13, 2011 8:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah the matchups are shutdown defenders and checking forwards against top scoring lines and PP units. Sometimes holding a top scoring line/PP unit to only one goal is a victory, especially when a line is hot. This situation adds up quickly to mess up good defenders and checkers +/- numbers over a season.

by Labo on Nov 14, 2011 9:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Those were the pairings I thought they would use when Z got injured. Not sure why they would mix up both top pairs instead of only the second one.

by gilathiel on Nov 14, 2011 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

When will HCDB figure out that Martin/Letang doesn’t work?

I will give the Pens credit for at least showing up in the thrid period and giving Ward
a shut out.

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by HockeyFanInColorado on Nov 13, 2011 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

generally agree with your points...

although I didn’t take things so dramatically –
yes, Martin and Letang are not synchronized at all and don’t cover themselves up well enough
yes, not scoring on 1:30 min of 5-on-3 PP was really frustrating
yes, Skinner was veeeery annoying and was crying for a good hard bodycheck from Orpik or someone else, but there will be another game, another hit
yes, BJ isn’t looking sharp enough so far this season

but hey
the Pens battled back and scored 3 goals after 2 periods when it seemed like Ward will stop anything they throw at him
Tangradi had arguably his best game in a Penguin uniform (a Pittsburgh one that is:)
and it was an exciting game to watch… despite the loss (you can’t win them all)

All in all it was a tough loss, but I think the “negatives” from the game are not that significant and could be fixed and the “positives” hopefully will remain.

You have to see it for yourself...

by Bla Razor on Nov 13, 2011 7:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I am not going to complain after we rallied to make this into a game. Our roster at the end of last year would have been finished down 3-0. This season we have the ability to score in bunches again.

by Labo on Nov 13, 2011 6:18 AM EST reply actions  

The Pens got of to a bad start by getting involved in stupid fights and taking bad penalties. This limited the ice time of some players. Paul Maurice as a coach always use this kind of tactics (even going back to when he coached the Whalers against Mario and the Pens) Last night was not any different. Ward stood on his head with incredible saves, and the Pens could not connect a simple pass on a 5 on 3 for a one time shot!!!! Fine we lost the game, but how many times is Letang going to miss his pass to Geno. Show him some video of Gonch passing the puck to Geno. But more importantly PRACTICE that play .

The Hockey Dr.

by Outcast on Nov 13, 2011 11:26 AM EST reply actions  

Overall

Brent Johnson has had a tough year. His goals allowed last night were not his fault. But it would have been great if he had “made a play” on at least two of them.

s.zielinski

by steve_z on Nov 13, 2011 11:53 AM EST reply actions  

Yeah, the second Ruutu goal in particular. As you said, that goal isn’t his fault (because Ruutu was all alone in front due to a breakdown in defensive-zone coverage). But Ruutu didn’t get that much of a shot away, and you’d really like to see Johnson get that one.

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by wg1of5 on Nov 13, 2011 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, BJ could have saved one. But let’s not blame the backup goalie here. The team should actually be more responsible on defense hen the backup is playing. The Pens defense has not been really all that good so far this year, (excluding MAF). You can say that they actually never played a game together as constructed because of injury. But so far the most consistent player strictly on defense is Engelland which isn’t saying much for the other guys (no offense to Engelland) that are getting the big money.

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by Outcast on Nov 13, 2011 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I disagree, I think the D have been playing alright so far.

No great, but good enough for the Pens to stay in the game. Stop hyperventilating, there’s still LOTS of hockey left to play
. That said I thought the Pens showed character in this game being down 3-0 to come back and atleast tie it for a brief time. It just shows that no matter what, a three goal defecit for the most part is just too deep of a hole to dig yourself out of.

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by Bradley James McEachern on Nov 14, 2011 12:23 AM EST up reply actions  

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