Injuries - What's to Blame?
[Editor's Note: This is a great piece that was written prior to Saturday's game against Islanders, so any reference to "tonight' refers to that game - FrankD]
Today's newest round of injuries to Richard Park and Jordan Staal prompted me to ask a question: What is the cause of the Penguins' consistent inability to remain healthy?
Is it Dan Bylsma's system? Is there something that the Penguins are doing now that they have not in the past that is causing them to be more injured than we can remember? A few people got together on Twitter and had an adult conversation on the topic. In the end some of us hypothesized that the aggressive, playoff style the Penguins currently play could be a contributor to the lack of jump the Penguins have each night, but it does not account for broken wrists and concussions.
I however was not satisfied to be done with just a conversation. I wanted to know if there was an uptick in injuries since Dan Bylsma took over as Penguins Head Coach. The only real way to look at that would be through the Man-Game Lost statistic. It is not a stat that the NHL tracks so I dug and reached out and was able to put together some solid numbers. Those after the jump.
First I need to say thanks to James Mirtle of the Globe & Mail. Prior to becoming a real journalist he was a blogger and is still pretty much the internet's resident man-games lost guru (he cares about it, not many other people do). With his help and the archived data on his old blog, along with the Penguins current supplemental statistics listing and the Penguins Media Guide from the past few years I was able to put this data together.:
Looking at the numbers you will see that while there was a noticable dip during the 06-07 season, that the Penguins have consistently ranged around 300-ish in Man-games lost (Sid's Injury alone accounts for the discrepancy/uptick last year). There is no distinct difference in the data for the two coaches.
However the projection for this year looks dire. I'm not a fan of projected statistics. There are too many variables in an 82 game season. However its the only reference-able way to look at it in comparison. With 35% of this season's games played the Pens project to lose 378 Man-Games to injury. That's a lot. In case you've forgotten, here is this season's breakdown entering tonight's game with the Islanders:
- 1 Game: Matt Niskanen Nov. 5
- 15 Games: Zbynek Michalek Oct. 25-Nov. 19; Nov. 29-Dec. 8
- 2 Games Deryk Engelland Dec. 5-Dec. 8
- 14 Games: Ben Lovejoy Nov. 5-Dec. 8
- 2 Games: Jordan Staal Oct. 29-Nov. 3
- 2 Games: Richard Park Dec. 5-Dec. 8
- 20 Games: Dustin Jeffrey Oct. 6-Oct. 18; Nov. 15-Dec. 8
- 4 Games: Steve MacIntyre Nov. 29-Dec. 5
- 21 Games: Brian Strait Oct. 20-Dec. 8
- 8 Games: Brooks Orpik Oct. 6-Oct. 18
- 11 Games: Tyler Kennedy Oct. 17-Nov. 12
- 5 Games: Kris Letang Nov. 29-Dec. 8
- 7 Games: Evgeni Malkin Oct. 9-Oct. 11; Oct. 17-Oct. 22
- 21 Games: Sidney Crosby Oct. 6-Nov. 19; Dec. 8
The Penguins have twelve roster players who are not in the lineup entering tonight's contest.
What's the point here? Well its obvious the Penguins are hurting. This year looks like it could be worse than last year. Some critics will say "I can't remember this many concussions under Therrien" but it's not a responsible comparison. Concussion awareness and precautions have increased exponentially in the last two years.
What I am now sure of, looking at the data, is that there is no distinct difference in games missed to injury over a season between current Head Coach Dan Bylsma and his predecessor Michel Therrien.
We can go ahead and put that one to bed via the judicious use of facts.
Again thanks to @Stoosh10, @leahbackus and @nafsnep for the inspiration to dig this stuff out and to @mirtle for the replies on Twitter and help getting it done.
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Great work everyone! All I can say is that the injury thing is getting so discouraging. I don’t know any other team losing so many significant players all at the same time. There’s nothing we can do, but I’m just holding onto hope that things will start to balance out soon.
Mario LeBest
Twitter @marcy8771
Good job.
Man games is a deceptive statistic. One Crosby game lost is not the same value as one Park game lost.
Last year, I picked Boston to win the Cup and my friends gasped in horror that I wouldn’t pick the Pens. I frankly told them that the Pens were a $40M payroll team competing against $60M payroll teams due to the loss of Crosby, Malkin and Cooke.
If anyone could calculate the dollar value of the games lost, we would see the Pens suffering a lot more than any other team by a wide margin.
It is a deceptive stat with respect to value of the player not in the lineup but to measure sheer volume on injuries, its the best that we have
by ozman_fiftyone on Dec 12, 2011 1:55 AM EST up reply actions
The injuries are related to the speed of the game. The Pens have more “star” players than other teams, so the odds are higher that one of them would be hurt since they have more icetime. Also if you look at individual injuries, Crosby nothing to do with any system (cheapshot) Malkin, freak accident, one of the biggest players in the league fell on his knee. Staal, cheap shot by the Flyers player. Letang, headhunting by Patches, Bortuzzo, cheapshot by Rinaldo. And you could go on. The Canadiens, are also another team to name
one affected by the injury bug. I don’t see how you can blame injuries on the system.
The Hockey Dr.
I’m just speculating here, but the increased push for concussion awareness over the past 2 or 3 seasons might also mean that guys aren’t playing in games that they used to get away with playing. Crosby obviously spent a lot of time sitting up in the box, Letang and Michalek are dealing with head issues, and TK spent some time out with a concussion. That’s about 40 games lost right there. Let’s assume that half of those games wouldn’t have been lost 4 or 5 years ago. If you crunch the numbers, that would put the projection at a closer to average 320 projected man games lost. But hey, at least our guys will be fresher come playoff time assuming we manage to heal up.
Just
need to get healthy come playoff time. That will be the key.
by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Dec 11, 2011 11:37 PM EST reply actions
I DO think that there is some difference between Blysma and previous system in MGL
But still, I think this is not the point here.
In fact, for a better judgment about the possibility of a “suicidal system”, we need to take a look at the whole league Man-Game-Lost.
The first think we need to evaluate is the increase of the injuries in the league. However, I think this is not an easy task.
The other think is about some injuries situations:
Malkin’s ACL injury was in the own zone, in an unlucky play.
Crosby’s concussion was in two different situations, an unlucky (and polemic) play, AND a bad boarding hit in the own zone.
Those two injuries, took a lot of Man Game Lost, and IMHO, none of then were because of the Blysma System.
Am I too wrong or it is just me?
by Gláucio Gonçalves on Dec 14, 2011 9:05 PM EST reply actions

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