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Possible Pens Trades

(Editor's Note: There is no evidence behind these trades. It is mere speculation/"would you if you could?" sort of talk. - FrankD)

Paul Martin, , and a third round pick for Luke Schenn and Carl Gunnarson.

Evgeni Malkin for Corry Perry and a first round pick.

Aron Asham and a third round pick for Steve Ott.

Chris Kunitz and a first round pick for Devin Setoguchi.

Sidney Crosby for Rick Nash and a first round pick(1st)

Matt Cooke and Evgeni Malkin for Brian Boyle, Derek Stephan, Brandon Dubinsky, Mike Rupp, and a first round pick.

Paul Martin and Zybenek Michalek for Ryan McDonaugh, Micheal Del Zotto, and a first round pick.

Marc-Andre Fleury and a second round pick for Tuuka Rask and Milan Lucic.

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I wouldn’t make any of these trades. Nor do I think Shero will make a big splash at the deadline either. If he makes any moves it will likely be similar to the low key pickups he’s made in recent years.

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by StripesForLife on Dec 21, 2011 12:45 AM EST reply actions  

Not sure if I’m alone here, but I’d be extremely unhappy to see any of those trades happen. In my opinion, the only thing the Pens need is to get healthy.

And while I’m not particularly fond of Martin’s contract, I’d like to see him remain a Penguin.

by Clank Brimsoy on Dec 21, 2011 12:45 AM EST reply actions  

Here’s the thing: the team is built pretty well, and the Pens are (most likely) going to make the playoffs. So the reasons to make a trade aren’t about cap issues or getting something for a player you won’t be able to sign in the off-season, or sparking the team with an “anyone can get traded so everyone should play better” sort of move. The reasons for a trade would have to be about strengthening some recognized weakness on the team, or giving the team a boost for heading into the playoffs.

So we’re not trading any of our core players — the players Shero has been building the team around — any time soon. If the Pens were in the midst of tanking in a season I could see a guy like Kunitz or Asham getting traded, but only if Shero could get someone in return who is going to both replace what is being lost and add whatever it is that seems to be missing from the team. And even then I definitely wouldn’t trade Kunitz for Setoguchi.

Given the current situation, and the growing pains and chemistry building that result from a trade, the only remotely possible trade, of those you’ve listed, would be a trade involving Asham. But I actually have a hard time imagining even that, since he has been filling his role on the team pretty well, at the right price.

Now suppose Shero looks at the team and sees an opportunity to bring something important to the team. You have to give something to get something, and assuming there aren’t all sorts of picks sitting around to be traded, guys on the team I could imagine being subject to a trade include guys like Tyler Kennedy (except the Cooke-Staal-Kennedy line still rocks), Steve Sullivan (if he doesn’t get things going the way we’d like him to, but he will), Dupuis (nooo!), Engelland, Lovejoy (NOOOOO!!!!), and maybe Dustin Jeffrey. There might be others, but that’s a list of trade-bait off the top of my head.

Jagr? I don't even know 'er.

by PopRocks on Dec 21, 2011 1:15 AM EST reply actions  

The playoffs are to Asham what spinach is to popeye….thats why you keep him

by NoVAPensFan on Dec 21, 2011 1:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed. That and more.

I’m not suggesting that we trade him. But if I had to pick one of the trades listed in the post, it would be a trade involving Asham.

Jagr? I don't even know 'er.

by PopRocks on Dec 21, 2011 1:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Asham + a 3rd for Steve Ott would be highway robbery by Shero.
Dallas would reject that offer, however, and it probably would take them less than 2 seconds to decide.

by Diomedes7 on Dec 21, 2011 9:21 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Trading Lovejoy would be fine as the Pens are well-stocked w/ #5/6 type D-men.
Depends on the return, of course (likely not much, so more value to retain him)

by Diomedes7 on Dec 21, 2011 9:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Also, I would sob.

Just a little.

Jagr? I don't even know 'er.

by PopRocks on Dec 21, 2011 5:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I dont see a single trade I would want to make….except maybe martin, but his contract makes him almost unmovable, plus I think he’ll come around…anyway, none of those other trades I would want to see

by NoVAPensFan on Dec 21, 2011 1:16 AM EST reply actions  

BOB

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by MaximumTalbot on Dec 21, 2011 10:07 AM EST reply actions  

LOL

Rec’d for the many dimensions of ridiculousness :)

Jagr? I don't even know 'er.

by PopRocks on Dec 21, 2011 5:50 PM EST up reply actions  

James Neal and a 3rd for Phil Kessel.
Jordan Staal and a first for Claude Giroux.

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by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Dec 21, 2011 12:40 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

But haven't you heard!

Giroux sucks!

Hard work always beats talent if talent doesn't work hard.

How many brooks would a Brooks Laich like if a Brooks Laich could like brooks?

by wg1of5 on Dec 21, 2011 1:03 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Any chance...

…you’ve seen the original poster’s work at BSH?

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by MikeL-Pivonka on Dec 21, 2011 12:55 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

JackCampbell: Legend.

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by Justin F. on Dec 21, 2011 3:25 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

All of the players he lists above suck at hockey. Even the Hurricanes are better than those dimwits. Anyone is.

Brilliant, insightful commentary if I ever saw it.

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Dec 22, 2011 10:13 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Hell, why do any of these trades when you could just package Ben Lovejoy and a 6th rounder in 2029 for Shea Weber?

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by fat_daddyo on Dec 21, 2011 1:03 PM EST reply actions  

Sidney Crosby for Rick Nash and a first round pick(1st)

Might set this as my signature.

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by Hooks Orpik on Dec 21, 2011 2:28 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

I’m stealing your idea, but for the even crazier Malkin/Cooke deal.

Hard work always beats talent if talent doesn't work hard.

"Matt Cooke and Evgeni Malkin for Brian Boyle, Derek Stepan, Brandon Dubinsky, Mike Rupp, and a first round pick." -JackCampbell

How many brooks would a Brooks Laich like if a Brooks Laich could like brooks?

by wg1of5 on Dec 21, 2011 5:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Would not make any of these trades. Not ruling out trading Paul Martin, but not for Schenn.
trading Kunitz and a draft pick for Setoguchi is just absurd to me.

by Wolfsangel on Dec 21, 2011 3:38 PM EST reply actions  

this isnt gm mode on nhl 12

by Todd Rainey on Dec 21, 2011 5:16 PM EST reply actions  

And if it was, our virtual Pens team would be totally screwed.

Hard work always beats talent if talent doesn't work hard.

"Matt Cooke and Evgeni Malkin for Brian Boyle, Derek Stepan, Brandon Dubinsky, Mike Rupp, and a first round pick." -JackCampbell

How many brooks would a Brooks Laich like if a Brooks Laich could like brooks?

by wg1of5 on Dec 21, 2011 10:10 PM EST up reply actions  

None of this crazy deals.

The Hockey Dr.

by Outcast on Dec 21, 2011 9:01 PM EST reply actions  

only one I would remotely consider is the last one.

I highly doubt Boston would agree to that.

"He doesn’t know whether to cry or wind his watch."..... Mike Lange

by Randy F on Dec 21, 2011 9:12 PM EST reply actions  

heh Malkin screwed me in gm mode going for over 11 mil a year. So I traded him for Duchene and a 2nd round. Pretty much gave me a different Malkin at half price when I re-signed Duchene for a 7 year contract. Malking then went on to win 2 Rockets with Colorado.

by OhioPen on Dec 22, 2011 12:14 AM EST reply actions  

sigh… that was supposed to be a reply to wg1of5 a few posts up

by OhioPen on Dec 22, 2011 12:15 AM EST up reply actions  

and I learned that I can’t spell Malkin’s name 3 times in one post

by OhioPen on Dec 22, 2011 12:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Only one I would consider

Martin with the small window and take with a grain of salt, emergence of Despres.

by daburgh73 on Dec 22, 2011 1:02 PM EST reply actions  

And the Leafs would never even consider it.

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by BCapp on Dec 22, 2011 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Matt Cooke and Evgeni Malkin for Brian Boyle, Derek Stephan, Brandon Dubinsky, Mike Rupp, and a first round pick.

Stepan*

Is there any way you can make this work without Cooke? Please? I’ll throw in Woywitka or something!

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by Brandon C. on Dec 23, 2011 2:01 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Paul Martin and Zybenek Michalek for Ryan McDonaugh, Micheal Del Zotto, and a first round pick.

McDonagh* and the Rangers wouldn’t, and shouldn’t ever consider a trade even slightly similar to this one. Why trade two of the best young defensemen in the game AND a first round pick for Michalek (who I admit is a great piece) and 30 year old Paul Martin?

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by Brandon C. on Dec 23, 2011 2:04 PM EST reply actions  

What is this a fire sale? Terrible ideas.

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by AlexStitch on Dec 23, 2011 3:00 PM EST reply actions  

Paul Martin, , and a third round pick for Luke Schenn and Carl Gunnarson.

I am 50-50 on this one, I would definitely consider it

Evgeni Malkin for Corry Perry and a first round pick.

Love Geno, but I would take the cap relief and the pick, plus Perry is awesome.

Aron Asham and a third round pick for Steve Ott.

Nothing against Ash, but Ott is a higher caliber agitator, imo.

Chris Kunitz and a first round pick for Devin Setoguchi.

Seto is younger, but thats about it. Kuni is equal to Seto himself, let alone throwing a 1st in there… no thanks.

Sidney Crosby for Rick Nash and a first round pick(1st)

Sid is a Pen for life, thats it. NO DEAL.

Matt Cooke and Evgeni Malkin for Brian Boyle, Derek Stephan, Brandon Dubinsky, Mike Rupp, and a first round pick.

Not a chance in hell….

Paul Martin and Zybenek Michalek for Ryan McDonaugh, Micheal Del Zotto, and a first round pick.

I think I would take this deal…

Marc-Andre Fleury and a second round pick for Tuuka Rask and Milan Lucic.
I am a huge Fleury fan, and he’s been brilliant this year, but I would do this deal FOR SURE. Tuuka makes less and is potentially as good as MAF, and I would LOVE to have that goon Lucic on our squad.

Most seem to think these deals are ridiculous, but they might be overvaluing/attaching too much sentiment to our current Pens, cause some of these deals could really benefit the Penguins, if you ask me.

Merry X-Mas to my fellow Pensburghers!

by LastSonOfKrypton on Dec 23, 2011 6:59 PM EST reply actions  

Honestly… none of these trades will happen imo, and I agree that shero will probably not make a big move at the deadline. However, a trade for Ales Hemsky of the Oil makes sense. According to ESPN Rumor Central (which you have to take it for what it’s worth + a grain of salt), the Penguins are in on Ales Hemsky. I can see it because of the emergence of some of our great young d-men ie Bortuzzo, Strait, and Despres. When everyone is healthy (its bound to eventually happen), some quality d-men will have to sit. With the emergence of these d-men and how deep our organization is, some d-men are expendable. I could see the pens putting together a package of Niskanen, a d-prospect not named Despres or JoMo, and a role player for Hemsky. The Pens do have some leverage because Hemsky’s 4.1 mil cap hit makes him difficult to move. Also, If the Oil don’t accept, then our team is fine as is. Shero doesn’t need to go overboard.

by stoopidtom on Dec 25, 2011 12:39 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

No to Hemsky

the Penguins do not need another high-priced player to decorate their IR list.

by Diomedes7 on Dec 25, 2011 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

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