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Proposed NHL Realignment


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Travis Hughes writes:

This solution answers a lot of the problems that have surrounded the realignment debate. The Dallas Stars are removed from the Pacific Division, rivalries are preserved in the East, regional hatred is amped up with the return of divisional playoff rounds, etc.

But there are a few glaring issues that remain. For starters, Detroit and Columbus are still isolated from the Eastern Time Zone, and one of the major issues has been their desire to play games against more teams in their own time zone. HNIC gave no hints as to how the schedule would break down under this format, but the home-and-home against every team in the league idea is reportedly part of the plan here.

Travel is still much easier for the two Eastern divisions in this format, but that's kind of just a fact of life in the NHL. There are more teams in closer confines in the eastern portion of the continent, and there's no changing that. Even still, travel likely gets easier for the teams on the West Coast, and as a result, this proposal seems to have the support of just about every current Western Conference team.

But no solution is perfect...

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i think they got this one right!

by Diomedes7 on Dec 5, 2011 11:34 PM EST reply actions  

Series against the Caps or Flyers more often is awesome

by andrew21nz on Dec 6, 2011 1:10 AM EST reply actions  

every year we enter the season with a 58% chance of making the playoffs….WOOT!

by NoVAPensFan on Dec 6, 2011 4:34 AM EST reply actions  

Things that come to mind after seeing this re-alignment:

  • It will be easier for teams in the eastern conferences to make the playoffs than for teams in the western conferences (ie: Will Columbas ever make the playoffs again? How about Calgary? Their team has been bad for years and their prospects are the worst in the NHL, they’ll always be bottom 4 in their conference.)
  • Does this leave room for expansion? Contraction? Add two teams to the east, 8 teams per conference. Or contract by 2 teams? Phoenix and Columbas could crash and burn…
  • Is top 4 teams in each conference really fair? The first two rounds of the playoffs will be intra-conference. The Pens, Flyers, Rangers, Devils, Caps are all good teams. Under the current playoff structure most of the matchups between those 5 teams would be in later rounds in the playoffs but under this re-alignment plan these teams would meet in the 1st and 2nd round.

Also, I think it would be very interesting to see someone do the calculations for a few NHL teams for the following: Miles traveled on road trips from city to city for this year compared to the miles traveled on road trips for next year’s schedule. See if there’s any significant difference. Clearly, a lot of this change is about time zones, and that seems to be a win with this plans layout.

by lampshade9909 on Dec 6, 2011 10:05 AM EST reply actions  

To address the first point, I think they’re assuming, despite the rhetoric, that it’s going to get evened out by Phoenix moving.

by VorAbaddon on Dec 6, 2011 11:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t see how the home and home is going to work 30 teams means that 29*2 = 58 of 82 games are scheduled right off the bat. 24 games left? 6 div opponents * 4 more games works for the 7 team conferences but the 8 team ones?

by Labo on Dec 6, 2011 2:42 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

The Penguins’ site has all the information you need on the realignment, such as schedule, playoff format, etc. The site also confirms that it the proposal has been approved by the board of governors.

As for my own thoughts on the matter:

Great job by Bettman and company as well as the board of governors!

As far as I can see this solves all the major issues:

1) Detroit and Columbus will play most of their games against teams in their own or adjacent timezones – most (all?) of the teams in their division (called conference now) are in their own timezone or in an adjacent one. They will play an increased amount of games against east coast teams and a reduced amount of games against west coast teams (2 games against teams outside of their conference). Colorado and Dallas will also have a more friendly schedule timezone-wise now that they are in their desired conference.

2) Winnipeg is no longer in a conference with teams on the Atlantic Coast.

3) Conferences have been narrowed down to as small a spread in timezone and geography as is possible in a league spanning 4 timezones, 2 countries and most of a continent.

4) And, finally, the most important one in my mind, all the major rivalries have been preserved. On top of that a few new great potential conference rivalries have been introduced, such as Washington vs Pittsburgh.

Interesting things to note or ponder:

As mentioned above by lampshade, the inequality of conferences begs the question, are we looking at a future NHL expansion, or even a contraction?

The eastern Canadian teams and the two Florida teams in the same conference gives rise to long flights, but I don’t think that’s necessarily a problem. By the very nature of all of them being in the same conference, I imagine the teams will see a large number of “road trips” going to and from Florida and Canada, much as we often already do see. Traveling that far is much less of an issue when you can play 2 or 3 teams in the area over a few days before going home.

How will conference final winners be matched up against each other? Lottery? The two western-most and the two eastern-most conference final winners playing against each other?

by Skyff on Dec 6, 2011 3:45 PM EST reply actions  

I doubt we'll ever see expansion

Shoot having 30 teams is more than enough, I think this provides a plan in case something happens and the Coyotes do in fact move.

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by Bradley James McEachern on Dec 6, 2011 9:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Best possible outcome for the Pens considering that realignment had to be done. For now theoretically more difficult to make it out of your division compared to others. But the balance of power shifts, over the years, in the NHL.

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by Outcast on Dec 7, 2011 1:46 PM EST reply actions  

The trade off

Because 8 teams in the west won’t make the playoffs and 6 in the east won’t.

The west will get 8 of the top 14 draft choices and the east will get 6.
Multiply that over 10 years and you get, um um um. Do your own math!! hahaha.

Food for thought though.

by vodkasoda on Dec 8, 2011 7:58 AM EST reply actions  

Very interesting point

But also, those teams in the west that just miss the playoffs year after year during that 10 year span will be losing a lot of money from the chances that they have of making the playoffs and making a deep run at it. There’s a lot of revenue in playoff games, not only selling more tickets at higher prices but also the extra attention and praise they get from playoff wins. And you can’t win the in the playoffs unless you get it…

by lampshade9909 on Dec 8, 2011 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Penguins New Conference

OK. The Penguins were in the only division where every team has a Stanley Cup banner hanging from the rafters.

Now, they are in a conference where every team except Washington has won the Cup. Hehe. The teasing I see in the future.

by vodkasoda on Dec 8, 2011 8:02 AM EST reply actions   2 recs

Imbalanced Conferences will have an Effect on NHL Free Agency

Skilled NHL free agents who want to play on a playoff team would much rather sign with the Pens/Caps/Rangers/Flyers/Bruins ect as opposed to signing with a Western Conference team where it’s harder to make the playoffs. So this will take some free agency bidding away from teams like Minnisota, Phoenix, Vancouver, St Louis, Dallas, LA, Edmonton, Nashville, Colorado, Calgary, Anaheim, Columbas,… Why would western conference GMS agree to this playoff rule??

by lampshade9909 on Dec 8, 2011 1:07 PM EST reply actions  

Did I Say

free agency? I meant the draft. Sorry.

by vodkasoda on Dec 8, 2011 5:45 PM EST up reply actions  

You said draft. But Free agency will also be directly affected. Would a superstar rather play in the east where there is less Travel and it’s easier to make the playoffs, or in the west where there is 2x/3x more travel and more difficult to make the playoffs….. Easy choice there.

It will be harder for western teams to field big named free agents.

by lampshade9909 on Dec 19, 2011 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

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