Where in the world is Jaromir Jagr?
by Hooks Orpik on Jun 30, 2011 7:46 AM EDT
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Move over Carmen Sandiego, Jaromir Jagr is at it again.
Yesterday was supposed to be decision day. After talking for a while with Mario Lemieux and Ray Shero, the Pens had offered a contract to Jagr (believed to be one year, $2 million) and asked to hear his answer by Wednesday. Simple, right?
As Penguins fans have again been reminded, nothing is as simple as it sounds with Jaromir Jagr.
Word came that Jagr would be leaving the Czech Republic for America on Wednesday and would announce in the afternoon which team he would play for. Rumors swirled that while the Detroit Red Wings and possibly Montreal Canadiens were in the mix, Pittsburgh was the front-runner. A Russian paper even erroneously posted it as a done deal for the Pens.
Jagr's agent, Petr Svoboda, laid a loose timeline that Jagr would get into New York around 4:00 PM Eastern, and then in about an hour his decision would be known. But much after that Svoboda announced Jagr's plane was still in the air. New York's JFK airport was experiencing problems because turtles were on the runway.
Later in the evening Svoboda would say he had "no idea" where Jagr was. Our blogging friends at the Pensblog even got to talk to him on the phone and a gruff Svoboda barked to them that no decision would be made or announced on Wednesday.
Where that leaves his standing with the Penguins today is unknown. Dan Bylsma has been a Jagr-supporter, and obviously Mario Lemieux is in that corner as well, but Ray Shero has seemed the coolest towards camp-Jagr in the first place. Even before yesterday's gongshow, Shero was the most luke-warm member of the Pens towards a reunification with the Czech star.
And one day before free agency, Shero has a ton of work to do. Though he re-signed Arron Asham and Pascal Dupuis in recent days, his depth chart has two holes at scoring right wingers. One such player, Tyler Kennedy, will become an unrestricted free agent Friday at noon if Shero doesn't get him to agree to a contract. Other options will hit the FA market too that could be possibilities for Pittsburgh.
Shero has shown that he learned his lesson in the light of losing Marian Hossa after being strung along for days. He now identifies targets, makes offers when he thinks appropriate, and then moves on if necessary. Jagr's deadline was yesterday, and even his own people don't seem to know where in the world he is.
Officially, there is no word on the status. Some close to Lemieux have even told the media that Jagr had agreed to sign with Pittsburgh, even though publically nothing has been announced. Will that be enough to buy Camp Jagr some time? Or will Shero move on immediately and see to it that the confusion of the past 24 hours costs Jagr his chance at a Pittsburgh return?
There are many unknowns at this hour. With the twists and turns yesterday around every corner, who knows how the situation will play out. What was supposed to be an easy yes or no answer, turned into a story about confusion, turtles and seemingly a missing superstar.
Though there's been no criminal elemnt, somewhere Carmen Sandiego would probably be proud of all the mayhem. Let's just hope the Case of the Missing Superstar ends with a signed contract with the Pens today.
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Time to print out missing Jagr flyers and post them around the city! And someone get a hold of the major milk producers.
In all seriousness he probably just wants to make a grand entrance and late last night amidst turtles and other chaos just wasn’t the time.
On a side note the danish guy next to Jagr is 22 year old (23 on July 6th) Nichlas Hardt, a hard working and physical energy player on the small side who ups his play in big games. Not that he’ll ever play in the NHL, but he always does a good job at the IIHF World Championships.
I am still cringing at the fact that you have JAGR and FLYERS typed next to each other. HA!
by LightningCoach on Jun 30, 2011 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Greetings from Italy! I’ve been checking my phone constantly for Jagr updates. Can’t wait to see the charges when I arrive back to North America! Only Jagr could do this to me! And Crosby of course…
From day one I thought he would go to Detroit or Mtl. I just can’t see him doing the classy thing and coming back to Pittsburgh. Jagr hasn’t grown up and this proves it. However I will drink in jubilee if he comes back!
I hope you all do the same!
"Have you ever seen such finesse?"
I hate ESPN...
Sports Center just ran a segment and started it off by saying…
Jarmoir Jagr is back.
by LightningCoach on Jun 30, 2011 8:50 AM EDT reply actions
I wasn't done...
title third said
Jaromir Jagr and Penguins agree to 1yr, $2 mil contract
If only ESPN knew!
by LightningCoach on Jun 30, 2011 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Remember how they handled the whole Sid concussion thing? A lot of mistakes on their end with initial reports and whatnot. I remember “Crosby practices with Pens, targets postseason return.” Meanwhile Sid never acknowledged he was eyeing a playoffs return, just that he was trying to get a feel for where he stood with the hopes that he would be symptom-free in time to help his team. It’s all how you spin it I guess.
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A little early for this...
but cool nonetheless…
Jaromir Jagr “I’m Comin’ Home” Video
by LightningCoach on Jun 30, 2011 8:54 AM EDT reply actions
cool
doesnt do it justice.
" Lord Stanley, scratch thier names on your fabled cup" Mike Lange june 12, 2009
by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 30, 2011 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
i
am just waiting for the official word to link it to meh fb page :P
" Lord Stanley, scratch thier names on your fabled cup" Mike Lange june 12, 2009
by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 30, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
as of 9:09 this morning, WPXI is reporting that he has signed…
http://www.wpxi.com/sports/28307348/detail.html
"I want to be the best. So whatever comes with that, I have to accept it." - Sidney Crosby
can't sign...
so it would be handshake agreement.
by LightningCoach on Jun 30, 2011 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Now that I read the story...
I see it says “agree”…
by LightningCoach on Jun 30, 2011 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions
“according to Channel 11’s news exchange partners at TribLIVE.”
What kind of source is that?
I am not satisfied with that! Jaromir has to personally call me at the phone, “Hi mate. It’s me, Jaro. Don’t worry, I’m coming back. Consider it done.”
hahaha that is a great way to cite a source.
ahem
According to the custodian at Channel 11’s studios, who’s friends with a guy who empties the trash at WXDX who KNOWS a guy who used to work at the Post-Gazette who once covered a story with a guy at the Trib, Jagr is reportedly interested in signing with the Penguins, according to a guy who throws out T-shirts during Penguins home games.
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by FrankD on Jun 30, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah sorry, thats what I meant. But either way I don’t understand the confusion on how some people say he has agreed and others aren’t sure yet. Seems to me like he either has or hasn’t and if the bigger news/sports outlets arent reporting it, it probably hasn’t happened yet.
"I want to be the best. So whatever comes with that, I have to accept it." - Sidney Crosby
Right. It sounds like the infamous “Friends of Mario” group have told Dejan Kovacevic that Jagr told Lemieux he is coming back.
And everyone’s running with it to try and be the first. Dejan is arguably the most impeccable source in town, but the game of “telephone” can be some crazy stuff.
"Game's the same. Just got more fierce."
Who would have thought that when we were all kids and played the “telephone game”, that it was actually real-world training for later on in life? amazing!
by LightningCoach on Jun 30, 2011 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions
As I said yesterday, by the time 8 hrs. had passed since Jagrs “flight”, supposedly arrived at JFK, the 2 people responsible for this, are Sbovoda, for deliberately misleading people all day. He was the one who announced that Jagr was flying to the US. And the other one is possibly Jagr, if he indeed told his agent, that he was flying over to the US, and never bother to contact him again. Either way it’s a fishy deal.
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Rossi on twitter...
“Jagr agent: “Meeting with Ray in a few minutes. Jaromir is in New York.”…Jagr agent: “Want to exchange a few things (with #Pens, other teams).”…..Jagr agent: “This is a hard decision for Jaromir. His heart is in Pittsburgh.” Story to post soon….Jagr agent neither confirmed nor denied that deal with #Pens is in place….Agent says Jagr to make decision soon "
"Game's the same. Just got more fierce."
I was just going to post this Hooks. He did make it to NY yesterday. But why Sbovoda said he didn’t know where he was, and nobody knew??? Possibly Sbovoda was trying to chek the market for him to see was the highest bidder? Or Jagr didn’t decide till today?
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Could have had something to do with the hectic travel and delays….If that wasn’t the case, I wouldn’t know where to start.
I’ve talked to people close to the Pens who’ve said Svoboda is “out of control” and Shero’s been pretty skeptical of Jagr’s camp for a long time. If not for the Lemieux connection, I sense Shero would have moved on a long time ago.
"Game's the same. Just got more fierce."
agreed
" Lord Stanley, scratch thier names on your fabled cup" Mike Lange june 12, 2009
by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 30, 2011 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions
All of these “games” certainly concern me. I hope this isn’t a sign of future issues to come with Jagr if he does sign with the Pens.
nah
i just think its gamesmanship from the agent….see it all the time from agents in all sports
" Lord Stanley, scratch thier names on your fabled cup" Mike Lange june 12, 2009
by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 30, 2011 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Can you imagine if Drew Rosenhaus was his agent? We would never heard the end of this type of nonsense.
by LightningCoach on Jun 30, 2011 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions
this
" Lord Stanley, scratch thier names on your fabled cup" Mike Lange june 12, 2009
by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 30, 2011 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions
If I was Shero, I would probably feel the same way. If did agree with Mario, in principle, now all of the sudden he is backing off, playing a charade with the complicity of his agent. “It’s a hard decision” (I thought he had already decided). It doesn’t sound good. I think they may be trying to squeeze more dough out of the Pens.
The Hockey Dr.
If that is the case then I pray that the Pens don’t put up with those B.S. games and just let him go. No need to have that crap on your team.
Possibly Sbovoda was trying to chek the market
That’s Czech the market.
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by SubLime on Jun 30, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
For a change in subject...
What does everyone think about the Stamkos situation in Tampa? A week ago both sides said they were close and still nothing. Will there be a poison pill involved if Stamkos goes to RFA? Thoughts?
Is it possible he signs an offer sheet from another team and TB dosen’t match? That’s a tough one to imagine. I think I read somewhere that Buffalo & Philly are prepared to make him very rich.
Is it October yet?
I saw the Philly nonsense as well…I would hate it if he ended up there!! He needs to just stay in Tampa. Or shoot, go to Toronto.
by LightningCoach on Jun 30, 2011 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions
I read somewhere (maybe it was here?) that a team must have the cap space to put an offer on an RFA. I don’t think Philly does at this point. I can see the Panthers making a move like this because the Bolts are in the Southeast so it hurts the Lightning to sign such a big deal. In the end, I highly doubt the Bolts let Stamkos go unless there are some issues we do not know about.
I doubt it. Tampa’s owner is a billionare and they can match any deal, and will.
I’d love to see if any GM actually has the stones to sign Stamkos. We’ve seen offer sheets before, but never for a 21 year old who’s one of the top 2 or 3 goal-scorers in the game right now.
"Game's the same. Just got more fierce."
I agree, the Bolts will most likely match any deal made, but can you imagine them getting stuck with a 12-year $10 million/yr contract? They would have to ditch Vinny at that point.
No, they actually wouldn’t, at least not for this coming season. They’d still be under the cap with money to sign a backup goalie and cheap forwards. Not what Stevie Y would prefer, but it would be manageable.
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by Carl Putnam on Jun 30, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, the GM’s sort of have an unspoken agreement with each other that you don’t offer contracts to RFAs. That’s why when it does seldomly happen they try to make the GM (that offered it) out to be a bad guy.
It’s collusion.
Is it October yet?
I don’t think it’s intentional. No doubt there’s a “good old boy” feel to it, but these guys take it personally. Sign an RFA to an offer sheet and you’ve just made a huge target for yourself (and an enemy).
There’s a lot of drawbacks to signing an offer sheet more than just intentional collusion to weigh.
"Game's the same. Just got more fierce."
Could be. That’s why I’m interesting to see if anyone with the space has the cajones to try and pull it off.
"Game's the same. Just got more fierce."
Yeah, I am really hoping that he doesn’t get signed before tomorrow just to see how everything unfolds. I still believe he stays with the Lightning but this whole situation seems very wacky to me and I have a feeling there is a lot more to the story.
About 15 years ago I think the Rangers forced Colorado into a contract when Joe Sakic signed an offer sheet from New York.
Is it October yet?
Carolina signed Fedorov to a massive bonus too that Detroit had to eat.
"Game's the same. Just got more fierce."
by Hooks Orpik on Jun 30, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Here’s a story:
http://www.sbnation.com/nhl/2011/6/29/2250838/steven-stamkos-philadelphia-flyers-offer-sheet-tampa-bay-lightning
Is it October yet?
I don’t like this quote from Svoboda:
“This is obviously a tough decision for Jaromir. His heart is in Pittsburgh.”
It seems to me if his heart is in Pitt it would be an easy desicion to comeback.
Is it October yet?
Doesn’t bother me that much. It’s a big decision for a guy who might have just 1 year of pro hockey under his belt.
He’s got a ton of options to weigh, all with pros and cons.
"Game's the same. Just got more fierce."
Yes Hooks. But he did have time to think it over. Also, as I already said, he was flying over to announce his decision. Sounds fishy.
The Hockey Dr.
Yeah that’s the reason he flew over, but there’s never been a firm indication that he’s even made the final decision yet.
"Game's the same. Just got more fierce."
well
having a heart in one location is on thing but you need to think about your future. does he think the money he has in the bank will last him the rest of his life? whats his plan after hockey?
" Lord Stanley, scratch thier names on your fabled cup" Mike Lange june 12, 2009
by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 30, 2011 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Disagree.
That makes it a tougher decision if others are offering more money or a better situation. My heart is in Pittsburgh but if I was offered more pay to live in St. Maarten, I think I know where I’m headed.
"What do we have here?"
"We're going to Saint Croix."
"We are? Oh, goody. I'm so happy."
"Well, I hope you're happy for us, because it's just Carrie and me."
"I see. Once again I humiliate myself by assuming that I'm a member of this family."
-Arthur and Doug, bantering about the Heffernan's vacation plans
Yea
but you aren’t set for life(and your kids… and their kids.. and their kids) for money(I’m assuming). Jagr has made millions of dollars and 1-2 million more money isn’t going to change his life.. hell 10 million probably wouldn’t. Unless he’s just blown his money, then I just don’t see how a little bit more money would really effect his decision. And come on.. if it’s a choice of living in PIttsburgh or Detroit(even temporarily), I would guess the majority of people would prefer Pittsburgh.
If his heart really is in Pittsburgh, then it would seem like an easy choice.
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Wasn't Jagr in some sort of financial trouble?
Or is that not true at all?
"What do we have here?"
"We're going to Saint Croix."
"We are? Oh, goody. I'm so happy."
"Well, I hope you're happy for us, because it's just Carrie and me."
"I see. Once again I humiliate myself by assuming that I'm a member of this family."
-Arthur and Doug, bantering about the Heffernan's vacation plans
It was rumored years ago that he’d run up serious gambling debts. But that’s a while ago.
P is for Latrobe.
by holiday park on Jun 30, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
He still has hands!
"What do we have here?"
"We're going to Saint Croix."
"We are? Oh, goody. I'm so happy."
"Well, I hope you're happy for us, because it's just Carrie and me."
"I see. Once again I humiliate myself by assuming that I'm a member of this family."
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more bull, Brooks on Twitter
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Where’s Jagr? Not in New York. Jagr is at Wimbledon at the moment. Will meet with agent upon arrival in North America.
Is it October yet?
Now Rossi is tweeting that Jagr’s agent “wants to exchange a few things”.“the longer this goes on, doesn’t look good for the Pens”
The Hockey Dr.
exchange some things = exchange handshakes and signatures
" Lord Stanley, scratch thier names on your fabled cup" Mike Lange june 12, 2009
by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 30, 2011 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Let’s hope so…Because if he wants to exchange some salary counter-offers I don’t think Shero is going to enjoy that suggestion.
"Game's the same. Just got more fierce."
by Hooks Orpik on Jun 30, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
a nice piece on what fromer pens think.
by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 30, 2011 10:29 AM EDT reply actions
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/penguins/s_744592.html
" Lord Stanley, scratch thier names on your fabled cup" Mike Lange june 12, 2009
by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 30, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Jagr in Atlanta...
Currently gearing up to race Chad Ochocinco in a charity race at Atlanta Motor Speedway.
Hey, everybody is coming up with stories as to where he is I figured I would give it a shot.
by LightningCoach on Jun 30, 2011 10:35 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
i heard
he was in kabul, fighting off taliban
" Lord Stanley, scratch thier names on your fabled cup" Mike Lange june 12, 2009
by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 30, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
with the mullet
" Lord Stanley, scratch thier names on your fabled cup" Mike Lange june 12, 2009
by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 30, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
I can pic Jagr right now, mullet and all, 68 tattoo on his army, looking just like Rambo! NICE! TOWED JUMPER!
by LightningCoach on Jun 30, 2011 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
can i haz
all your kit-kats!
" Lord Stanley, scratch thier names on your fabled cup" Mike Lange june 12, 2009
by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 30, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
If Jagr doesn’t sign with the Pens though he may just become the most despised sporting entity in city history. To leave the way he did in 2001 and to lead the city on that he is coming back for one more run until to drag it along and then not do it. Yikes, it is not LeBron leaving Cleveland bad, but it is right there.
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He left because the team could no longer afford to pay him. I understood that. But I believe you are right about the present situation. I do largely blame his agent for this shananigans. He was not truthful, in his dealings with the media. He is probably trying to “squeeze” more money out of the Pens.
The Hockey Dr.
Apparently the agent is meeting with the Pens, Habs and Wings today so it sounds like he is trying to squeeze too much out of any one of them and that JJ will sign for the highest offer and doesn’t really care if he ends up with the Pens or not.
Jagr leaving in 2001
Is nothing compared to how Petr Nedved left Pittsburgh. Nedved came off really looking bad how he handled his departure.
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by The Last Shall Become First on Jun 30, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
disagree
jj was drafted a pen, spent 11 years here. nedved was only here for what three years?
" Lord Stanley, scratch thier names on your fabled cup" Mike Lange june 12, 2009
by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 30, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
And at least when Nedved was traded, Kovalev was in the return. While Jagr was trade, psssssssssh
"Game's the same. Just got more fierce."
But, but,...
the immortal Kris Beech was a great young prospect.
"Never mistake motion for action." - Ernest Hemingway
my read on this
I think all the confusion is coming from Svoboda, and here’s why: Jagr fully intends to sign with Pittsburgh, and Svoboda wants to make sure that Shero doesn’t use that to get a deal that’s too Pens-friendly. In other words, Shero could just offer a league-minimum deal; does anyone seriously think Jagr will take more money to play for another NHL team with the Pens in the mix? But by keeping us guessing, he can ensure that Pittsburgh will offer a fair contract.
Relax, folks. I think it’s very, very unlikely Jagr chooses to finish his NHL career anywhere other than Pittsburgh.
P is for Latrobe.
What you say appears very plausible and what any loyal agent would do. However, he needs to make a decision soon. I don’t see Shero waiting any longer than noon tomorrow for that train. He’s been burned once by waiting, he won’t risk it a second time. And if TK is his back-up plan, he won’t even wait that long.
Some good words there, HP (and nice to see ya too, btw).
The biggest worry is if Svoboda/Jagr is dragging feet, Shero will move on. Might be soon, might give him the day. Part of me is surprised that Shero’s still continuing the dialogue.
Jagr says he wants to finish in Pittsburgh and it’s time for him to put the pen where his mouth is and put it in writing.
"Game's the same. Just got more fierce."
by Hooks Orpik on Jun 30, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Part of me is surprised that Shero’s still continuing the dialogue
This leads me to believe people within the organization (whether that be Mario, Shero etc.) already know his decision. It sounded on Wednesday like Shero was firm with a final offer. In the world of technology, it’s as simple as a phone call or text saying he’s signing. I think the agent is just blowing smoke in hopes of getting a better deal, which won’t happen from the Pens and Detroit doesn’t seem too interested.
by StripesForLife on Jun 30, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d agree that he needs to move quickly, and that Shero isn’t going to wait forever with all that’s on his plate starting tomorrow.
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by holiday park on Jun 30, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Also, don’t forget that Shero reached out to Jagr during the worlds about the charity golf event with the 1991 team. I think Shero appreciates that Jagr isn’t your average free agent, given what he’s meant to the franchise and the fan base.
I’m still confident that this wraps up with Jagr putting on the black and Vegas-gold.
P is for Latrobe.
by holiday park on Jun 30, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
lets not assume
that dude doesnt care about the money…the whoel reason he went to the khl was for the money
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by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 30, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree Jagr’s move to Russia was about money, but if he was still looking for a paycheck, he’d be resigning for more tax-free dollars in the KHL right now, not choosing between Detroit and Pittsburgh. In the NHL, he’s just a 39-year-old winger who’s been out of the league for 3 seasons, and none of the league’s contenders are going to push against the salary cap by giving a 39-year-old KHL money. He might be able to get a little more from a team like Montreal, but not a lot more.
P is for Latrobe.
by holiday park on Jun 30, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
is there something wrong with wanting to make more money? i really don’t understand this line of thinking. it’s not like he’s picking a team over $1…there are hundreds of thousands of dollars at stake. Millions if he’d open himself up to playing in Florida or other below cap teams.
Not sure what his deal was in the KHL
but if it were about money, I’m guessing he’d still be in the KHL
There's an 87% chance this post is sarcasm...
his offer, not his deal. His NEW offer for next season.
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He made about $4 million tax-free there last year. Have to believe he could’ve gotten something similar. So yeah, with taxes he probably makes twice as much money in Russia as he will in the NHL next season.
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by holiday park on Jun 30, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Whoa
Sex-crazed turtles shut down a runway at Kennedy Airport
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jp dumont
Interesting down in Nashville. Lots of UFAs and things like that. What do you guys think of JP?
Get in the fast lane grandma, the bingo game is ready to roll!
Yeah he’s shot. Maybe for league minimum I’d take him, but not much more.
I’d prefer the other old, small brittle Nashville UFA in Steve Sullivan. Just barely though.
"Game's the same. Just got more fierce."
Jagr announcement
i’m not expecting it until noon tomorrow
his agent is a prick
and thinks he can get a few more sheckels
ridiculous
yea
but Shero could just tell him to piss off and call Jagr and say sorry, you’ve wasted too much of our time.
I have to think that the Pens already know one way or the other… It’s just not officially released and the media doesn’t know officially yet.
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https://plus.sites.post-gazette.com/index.php?option=com_signup&view=register&Itemid=109
anyone that can actually read that? I’m curious what it says but I don’t have access…
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Is this truly drama? Or does it just seem so? Is it because we are rabid fans who want him back so bad its turned us into six year olds waiting for Christmas? Or is he really being a drama queen about the whole thing? I have been completely unproductive, pondering all these questions since the watch began yesterday.
probably being a mix of both
" Lord Stanley, scratch thier names on your fabled cup" Mike Lange june 12, 2009
by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 30, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I know hockey is different than the other sports in that it’s usually more encouraged and better to go play in a junior league after high school, but I think there are more kids opting to go to school and play, which in turn gets them at least some type of education and something to fall back on if their hockey career doesn’t work out or when they retire.
I bet some players, as they start nearing the end of their careers, start doing like an in-house internship and hanging out with the coaches more on a coaching level and the GMs, front office people, etc.
On the topic of players preparing for retirement and wanting to make enough. . .
I know hockey is different than the other sports in that it’s usually more encouraged and better to go play in a junior league after high school, but I think there are more kids opting to go to school and play, which in turn gets them at least some type of education and something to fall back on if their hockey career doesn’t work out or when they retire.
I bet some players, as they start nearing the end of their careers, start doing like an in-house internship and hanging out with the coaches more on a coaching level and the GMs, front office people, etc.
canes
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by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 30, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Dude?
This is the 4th time today I have checked in to see if JJ has signed. My spidey-sense is tingling that something bad is about to happen.
Life is about one simple choice, get busy living or get busy dying
Shhhhhhhhhhhhh.
We know. Don’t jinx it anymore than the turtles already have.
/re-crosses fingers
//resumes staring deeply at JJ’s rookie card
///lights a candle
by Zuhbeenick Mickhawlick on Jun 30, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ve got that same card autographed!!!
Life is about one simple choice, get busy living or get busy dying
Luckyyy.
I’ll trade you my non-autographed 66+68 stealth-black uniforms Wheaties box! It might even still have the 19 year old sealed bag of Wheaties in it too. BONUS!
What if I threw this in, too? (Original bag of Frosted Flakes included, of course!)
by Zuhbeenick Mickhawlick on Jun 30, 2011 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
this
is a true collector and herby makes you a certified nutjob for holding onto a wheaties box with the chow still inside for 19 years
" Lord Stanley, scratch thier names on your fabled cup" Mike Lange june 12, 2009
by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 30, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I still have these unopened as well:
I can still remember being 10 years old reaching into a cooler at a family Christmas party for that can of I.C. Light. I don’t even recall getting scolded for grabbin’ that brew. I guess everyone respected my 10/y.o. level of fandom and knew I wasn’t the drinking type.
by Zuhbeenick Mickhawlick on Jun 30, 2011 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Speaking of waiting, Rossi reports that there were some Pens fans at the Airport in PGH waiting for the 10PM flight from NY last night. As well as rental car agency employees that had a car ready for Jagr. If anything else this is going to down as one of the biggest charades in PGH sports history.
The Hockey Dr.
Wow.
So. If this does turn out positively, it’ll be kind of anti-climactic now. Won’t diminish the fact that we got him, but it won’t have the same feeling to it. Not that it matters, of course.
by Zuhbeenick Mickhawlick on Jun 30, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Seconded.
I won’t be holding my breath for the next hour-and-a-half again.
I nearly passed out from it yesterday. Thanks a lot, Jags.
by Zuhbeenick Mickhawlick on Jun 30, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah nothing on twitter from either Rossi or Yohe. Everybody knows madden talks out of his ass a lot, but not usually with something like a press conference or anything like that.
by StripesForLife on Jun 30, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Right. His program ends before that, so it wouldn’t surprise me if it’s another hoax. I just put it there for information purpose. I had enough of this. Svoboda is talking out of his ass too.
The Hockey Dr.
Madden and Rossi are tight, but the fact that it’s not on twitter makes me skeptical. Surely the “coincidence” that’s when his radio show ends might play into things or it could be Madden’s off-color attempt at showing how many false reports are flyin around…Who knows.
"Game's the same. Just got more fierce."
I'm holding my breath until 6 pm
Wish me luck.
"This isn’t fantasy or rotisserie basketball. Why would Denver want Outlaw? Would you?"
this deserves a repost
" Lord Stanley, scratch thier names on your fabled cup" Mike Lange june 12, 2009
by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 30, 2011 4:50 PM EDT reply actions
my wife and I named our cat Jagr about 14-15 years ago
…if this doesn’t have a happy ending,I’m having Chinese for dinner!!
Welp, that’s one reason to skin a cat…
by Zuhbeenick Mickhawlick on Jun 30, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
through all this
one thing that can not be questioned is the orginizations class and respect as it pertains to former players and the city itself. look heres a guy who hasnt put up the best numbers since leaving the burgh, but in his prime was a dominant forward…look at how ray and 66 handled the billy guerin issue…just loaded with the right way to do things
" Lord Stanley, scratch thier names on your fabled cup" Mike Lange june 12, 2009
by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 30, 2011 5:09 PM EDT reply actions
yeah
they were talking about that on trib live today….i emailed the who and thanked theguy for making me puke a bit in my mouth thinking of 68 in a flyers jersey
" Lord Stanley, scratch thier names on your fabled cup" Mike Lange june 12, 2009
by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 30, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
If Jags signs for the Flyers, he would generate 1000 times more hate than Hossa ever did. And he can forget about having his number retired by the Pens.
The Hockey Dr.
by Outcast on Jun 30, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Maybe there was a problem with the Kit Kat endorsement?
by 21in69 on Jun 30, 2011 5:41 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
wut???
no kit kat, no dealski!!!!!
" Lord Stanley, scratch thier names on your fabled cup" Mike Lange june 12, 2009
by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 30, 2011 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I know. If it’s any comfort, this WON’T be dragging on much longer, can’t see Shero playing these games for too much longer.
"Game's the same. Just got more fierce."
I should hope not. Tomorrow’s going to be a busy day. Can’t put it all on Hossa- I mean hold- for one guy.
by Zuhbeenick Mickhawlick on Jun 30, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I love how Pens fans are attacking each other and being suck jagoffs over this JJ thing. Can we all grow up now please? Jeesh.
Sign or not we still frikn rock!
Get in the fast lane grandma, the bingo game is ready to roll!
I don’t see fans “attacking each other”. But I’m with you that we still rock, no matter what.
The Hockey Dr.
Not on this blog, but on tPB people are going nuts like rabid dogs waiting for meat!
Get in the fast lane grandma, the bingo game is ready to roll!
by PensForTheWin on Jun 30, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Eh, but that’s kind of the M.O. of the commentblog over there though. I don’t take much that’s said on tPB anywhere nearly as seriously as what’s said over here. Except Tuesday’s With Stoosh. That’s pretty legit.
by Zuhbeenick Mickhawlick on Jun 30, 2011 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah the mood over there
is generally much more angry sportsbar crowd then here
" Lord Stanley, scratch thier names on your fabled cup" Mike Lange june 12, 2009
by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 30, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions
haha awesome response to this, yeah noticing the jerks come out of the woodwork there
Get in the fast lane grandma, the bingo game is ready to roll!
by PensForTheWin on Jun 30, 2011 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions
yup
it appears the madden post was hogwash
" Lord Stanley, scratch thier names on your fabled cup" Mike Lange june 12, 2009
by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 30, 2011 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, I for one am gladd that...
…Jagr taking his time making his decision. After all, he’s only had about one year to consider his options. A decision of this magnitude should not be treated lightly.
s.zielinski
by steve_z on Jun 30, 2011 6:02 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Buffalo sabres
Agree to contract with Erhoff! Good for them! That franchise deserves a solid D man like that! Respectable people up in Buffalo.
Get in the fast lane grandma, the bingo game is ready to roll!
That new owner is taking that team places.
by SlayerGhaleon on Jun 30, 2011 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
yup
making a ton of moves up there
" Lord Stanley, scratch thier names on your fabled cup" Mike Lange june 12, 2009
by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 30, 2011 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Apparently, other teams have now made approaches to the Jagr situation and that’s why he’s taking his time. With the hightened salary floor, another team might be prepared to offer JJ more than the Pens offer (if that $2 mil was the offer).
That’d be a dick move for someone who’s heart is in Pittsburgh.
by SlayerGhaleon on Jun 30, 2011 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Agree. Madden (lmao) said his legacy could be over, which I doubt, but it sure as hell could keep his number out of the rafters if he deceived Mario!
Get in the fast lane grandma, the bingo game is ready to roll!
by PensForTheWin on Jun 30, 2011 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Here is what I heard: Pens offered 1.4 Detroit offered 2.5 at 2 years or something and no idea what montreal or said 3rd team offered
Get in the fast lane grandma, the bingo game is ready to roll!
by PensForTheWin on Jun 30, 2011 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
1.4 is a bit too little, don’t you think? still don’t think the Pens have offered anything less than $2 Mil… but if so… that might be counting too much on one’s heart…
You have to see it for yourself...
Yeah thats small but I have heard that twice now. He made 7mill in russia. (hopefully) He isnt here for the money IMO
Get in the fast lane grandma, the bingo game is ready to roll!
by PensForTheWin on Jun 30, 2011 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Eh
I’m sticking with what I said earlier. I think this is all about Svoboda trying to make sure that the Pens don’t lowball Jagr. Still would be very surprised if he didn’t sign with Pittsburgh.
I also think that we’re all analyzing every scrap of information a little too carefully. I realize that there’s not much to talk about in the sports world, but it’s a beautiful day (at least where I live); go outside and have some fun.
P is for Latrobe.
too bad
A very pleasant 75 and sunny here in California.
P is for Latrobe.
by holiday park on Jun 30, 2011 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Tons of info from Rossi
Says TK deal is down to how many years ( woooooooooooooo ) (knock on wood)
Here are quotes from Rossi
own to short strokes" with Kennedy on 1-, 2- or 3-year deal
Shero hopes Jagr “meant what he said by wanting to do right by Mario.” Story to post soon
Get in the fast lane grandma, the bingo game is ready to roll!
Poo that would be *down to short strokes
Get in the fast lane grandma, the bingo game is ready to roll!
by PensForTheWin on Jun 30, 2011 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions
IF
shero can nail down both jj and tk along with dupers and asham…its another very very successfull off season
" Lord Stanley, scratch thier names on your fabled cup" Mike Lange june 12, 2009
by oldtimehockey09 on Jun 30, 2011 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I sort of saw Talbot leaving, but am I the only one worried about Rupp most likely not coming back? Is that because they think Tanger2 can bring that kind of game. Not as tough but still big with better skill.
Life is about one simple choice, get busy living or get busy dying
Tired of waiting
I really hope I didn’t take today off for nothing.
The Lions are going 10-6, and there is nothing you can say to convince me otherwise.
Jagr & Shero
These are not Craig Patrick’s Pens any longer. Shero should tell Svoboda if Jagr’s not signed by a certain date/time there is no deal period. Wasn’t it Jagr who once claimed how much he owed Lemieux and would play for him for the minimum? Shero offers $2 million at age 39 and this is the kind of polite response the Pens get from His Jagrness? Are the Pens trying to fill Bill Guerin’s skates or are they playing games with a prima donna?
by SouthBaySteelers on Jun 30, 2011 10:08 PM EDT reply actions
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