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What About Chris Kunitz?

With all the talk this offseason about Sidney Crosby and Evgeni Malkin (and their injuries), I thought it was only right to also give a little attention to Chris Kunitz. Here's a guy who makes his living on the forecheck, throws his body around with reckless abandon and exhibits an "act first, react later" style of play. That same forecheck has led to goals, the reckless style has led to injuries and the action/reaction has led to suspensions and fines.

But a healthy Kunitz can be a significant asset to this Penguins team. His best season (at least in terms of games played on Pittsburgh's schedule) was his first one, albeit a shortened one after he came on board via a 2009 trade. In 20 games that season he registered seven goals and 18 points en route to Pittsburgh's third Stanley Cup. Since then, however, injuries have crept up and kept him out of the lineup for significant periods of time.

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In 2009-10 Kunitz played in 50 games for the Pens, tallying 13 goals and 32 points along the way. A lower-body injury, followed shortly after by an abdominal tear that required surgery, kept him out of Pittsburgh's lineup for the better part of the season. He returned with about a month or so remaining in the season, only to suffer a shoulder injury that kept him off the ice for the remainder of the regular season. But with Kunitz being Kunitz, he sucked it up and made a go during the postseason, producing four goals and seven assists in 13 games before Montreal eliminated the Pens from playoff contention.

Last season was a slightly better output, as Kunitz played in 66 games, posting 23 goals and 25 assists on the year. But once again a series of lower-body injuries kept him out of the lineup during a time when the team could've benefited greatly from having him healthy and producing on the ice. Despite his physical presence during the postseason, his one goal for one point in six games against the Lightning better reflected that of a disappearing act. Unless of course you take his one-game suspension into consideration that resulted in him missing Game 4 of the series.

In two seasons with the Penguins (not including his first half-season), Kunitz has played in 116 of a possible 164 regular season games. By now we've all read countless stories about the never-ending quest to find a winger for Crosby, but there's a good chance the best solution is right under Pittsburgh's own nose. All Crosby and Kunitz have to do is stay healthy long enough to really put that to the test. Unfortunately that may be easier said than done.

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Kunitz was on pace for a 29 goal, 31 assist season, if he would have played all 82 games. That’s a terrific rate, especially considering the Crosby/Malkin injuries.

The best thing about Kunitz is- you can plug him in with Crosby, and he’ll produce. (And also do all the heavy forechecking, and his usual excellent positional play). Or you can plug him with Staal and those two play well together.

Kunitz is a great complimentary player on this team, and he fits like a glove for the system and style the Pens want to play. Hopefully he can stay healthy this season.

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by Hooks Orpik on Aug 16, 2011 9:02 AM EDT reply actions  

Agree with everything you said Hooks. But I think that with Kunitz style of play, plus age, he is unlikely to play all 82 games. Hopefully I’m wrong.

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by Outcast on Aug 19, 2011 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Bobs call him the Human Cannonball, which is fitting, because the guys gets stuff done when he’s on the forecheck and trying to get something physical going, and I like that. Understandably, his style is what leads to injuries, and maybe that’s something that can be addressed to help him stay healthy longer. I wouldn’t mind for every four or five games he plays he gets a game off for rest, especially this year with the depth that we have.

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by AlexStitch on Aug 16, 2011 9:19 AM EDT reply actions  

I don’t know if selective rest will fly. In theory it’s a good idea, but try telling that to Dan Bylsma who need/wants to win every night. Choosing to sit your 3rd most productive forward for 15-20% of the games is a little extreme and runs counter to the goals of winning games and establishing a sense of momentum.

I’m all for limiting the injuries players suffer, but in hockey that’s the price you have to be willing to pay in the sport.

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by Hooks Orpik on Aug 16, 2011 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

But saving him for some games and keeping him rested and healthy could mean winning games in the spring, when they really matter.

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by AlexStitch on Aug 16, 2011 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Still gonna sell the idea. Playing Kunitz in 80-85% of the games still means there’s a huge risk he’ll get hurt, given his style of play. So why not just rest him 100% of the time? (see where that goes..)

If the Pens didn’t really rest a 39 year old Bill Guerin in 09-10 (78 games played), they’re not going to do the same for a fit and perfectly capable Kunitz.

They need him in the lineup, not protecting him from helping when he can.

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by Hooks Orpik on Aug 16, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

You’re wrong Hooks.

I’m kidding. Don’t get me wrong I see what you’re saying, but if the issue at hand is how do we keep Kunitz healthy and playing more games, then what else do you do? You can’t sit him down like Cooke and tell him to change his style because then he’s not effective at all. Maybe this is one of those scenarios where you can’t have your cake and eat it too.

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by AlexStitch on Aug 16, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think you can do much about it. You’re right, he plays a style that can lead to injuries. But it’s professional hockey, injuries happen.

Look at Kunitz’s carrer games numbers since he became a full-time NHL’er:

06-07: 81 games
07-08: 82
08-09: 82 (split btw Ana and Pitt)
09-10: 50
10-11: 66

He can make it through seasons. This isn’t a guy like a Hemsky or Gaborik who’s struggled to stay in the lineup and missed huge chunks of multiple seasons. There’s no need to bench him if he’s healthy, just gotta hope for the best that he doesn’t pick up any injuries.

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by Hooks Orpik on Aug 16, 2011 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve gotta go with Hooks on this one. These aren’t fatigue related injuries. They’re just a side effect of the way he plays. Rest like that wouldn’t really do much to prevent those types of injuries anyway, so you may as well let him do his thing and just hope things work out in his favour

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by Chez on Aug 16, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Last season he missed 16 games. If he sat out every fifth game he’d miss… you guessed it, 16 games. I’d say let him play as often as he can, and if an injury happens, just hope that it won’t lead to many games missed.

by The Malk-Man on Aug 17, 2011 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve been a Kunitz believer since he came here in the trade. He’s a bigger part of this offense than most people want to give him credit for. A lot of people look at his point totals and see that he’s not earning his salary, but Kunitz isn’t a huge point scorer. Like Frank mentions Kunitz is needed to do more forechecking and going to the net on the top lines, than anything else. He also isn’t constantly used on the powerplay unit which leads to fewer points.

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by StripesForLife on Aug 16, 2011 11:34 AM EDT reply actions  

Kunitz is a top 20 LW’er, he brings all the right things to the table to play with Crosby. I don’t want him to change a thing about the way he plays. His salary is right in line with what other players make that provide similar production. Anyone that thinks he’s not earning his wage isn’t playing close enough attention.

by AronV on Aug 16, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, especially with a $64.3 million cap.

Look around the league- Tomas Fleischmann and Erik Cole got $4.5 million. Scott Upshall got $3.5 million. Joel Ward, Radim Vrbata and Jussi Jokinen all got $3 million.

Kunitz, at $3.75 fits in very nicely compared to those other wingers in terms of age, production and physicality.

I would wonder what Kunitz’s next contract might look like. If he stays relatively healthy this year, I could see Shero willing to go 2-3 more years at about the same salary.

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by Hooks Orpik on Aug 16, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

You both echo my same thoughts
I would wonder what Kunitz’s next contract might look like. If he stays relatively healthy this year, I could see Shero willing to go 2-3 more years at about the same salary.

Shero will have a big decision to make about him next year. If Kunitz can stay healthy enought to play 60+ games this year, then I would say they should go 3 years. I don’t know if Kunitz’ camp will settle for anything less than that (unless he gives the old hometown discount).

I’m assuming the market for free agents will be similar to this past year, maybe even worse because of the impending CBA. I could easily see some team throwing 3 years $14 million at him. At $3.75 for this year, though I think that’s a modest discount.

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by StripesForLife on Aug 16, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d honestly like to see if it comes down to a Neal Vs. Kunitz of who stays and goes next year… Neal is a RFA next year though… Neal is younger and bigger and I can only hope works well with Sid or Malking this year. I don’t think Kunitz has many more years of crash and smash hockey left in the tank. I’d love to keep both but will the team have the pay roll next year with the new CBA…

by STAALKINEAL on Aug 17, 2011 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

With Tangradi in the pipeline at LW, I’d say it depends on whether one of the three can transition to RW. If none of them can do so successfully one of them has to go.

by Skyff on Aug 17, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I really think that Neal can move to RW. Since he’s got the ability to dangle a little bit and is less of a straight line player like Kunitz.

by AronV on Aug 17, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

I am a huge Kunitz fan and I believe that you have hit the figurative nail on the head with almost all of your points. The only thing I am wondering about is how you believe he isn’t a huge point scorer? In 66 games this year he put up 48 points and like hooks said above he was on pace for a 60 point season. I know we as Pens fans are a little spoiled watching Sid put up 90-100 point seasons with his eyes closed and one arm tied behind his back, but from a top 6 winger that doesn’t get very much PP time I see that as a very good scorer. I know he had a bigger role with Sid and Geno missing half the season but at the same time I’m pretty sure 80% of this league would give a guy that scores as much as he does and brings as much intensity and energy to the ice top dollar in a heart beat. If we can get 40-50 points out of him and Neal with Sid and Geno having their normal spectacular season, we should be playing deep into the summer.

by Crosby4Prez on Aug 17, 2011 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kunitz is Kunitz, and he’ll be Kunitz.

Is it October yet?

by Lindas1st on Aug 16, 2011 4:17 PM EDT reply actions  

I bow to your superior logic.

by Skyff on Aug 16, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL, yeah, I realized how that looked after I wrote & posted it.

Is it October yet?

by Lindas1st on Aug 16, 2011 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I liked it. I was trying to be funny!

by Skyff on Aug 16, 2011 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, I know buddy.

Is it October yet?

by Lindas1st on Aug 16, 2011 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Kunitz can stay here longer and fit whatever cap we have next year reasonably then yes. I think James Neal is looking to take his spot though. I can see Kunitz going to like the Rangers or some other rival team just as easily as staying with us…and that scares the crap out of me. Other than Cooke (and Orpik), the only other player I REALLY do not want to play against for 5 or so years on a rival team is Kunitz.

I love Kunitz and I hope he stays, but this is a business…things happen…COUGH COUGH TALBOT COUGH

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by PensForTheWin on Aug 16, 2011 6:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Kunitz is 10x the player Talbot is.

by AronV on Aug 16, 2011 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know that Kunitz will have 5 years left after next...

He’ll be 32 at the begining of the season and to think a guy with his style of play will be playing at age 36 or 37 is a stretch to me. I like the guy and hope he does, but the odds are against him IMO.

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by StripesForLife on Aug 16, 2011 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed

going into final yr of contract @ $4 million & all talk of Shero wanting as much money off the books when he has to get extentsions for Sid, Staal & Geno coming up. I don’t think he’ll be back after this coming season, heck he might be used as trade bait for a team wanting to free up money. & if Shero does resgin him it won’t be @ the $4 million cap hit he’s had.

by cmypath78 on Aug 17, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

there’s no way in hades that Chris Kunitz is used as trade bait this season, unless you’re talking after the season, pre July 1 deal.

by AronV on Aug 17, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think he would trade him pre-July 1 either. Those guys really just don’t have any value. I think Shero would like to bring him back unless one of the younger guys proves they can take his role (I’m talking specifically to Tangradi).

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by StripesForLife on Aug 18, 2011 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

What? Sure he has value. Heck you could probably get a first rounder for him. But why sell your chances of winning the cup?

by Skyff on Aug 19, 2011 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

that’s more at what I was getting at. Chris Kunitz has plenty of value as a top 20 LW’er in the NHL.

by AronV on Aug 19, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not advocating a trade of him, and certainly not during the season if this team is primed to make a Stanley Cup run.

 But guys in the offseason who are NOT under contract aren’t worth much. Look at what Malone brought back, 3rd rounder. Look at Hamhuis, traded for a 3rd rounder. Bryzgalov was traded for a 3rd rounder.

Kunitz is probably comparable to Malone and is weaker than the other two, positionally speaking. So to think he could bring a 1st round pick back is insane.

"It's a great day for hockey" - Badger Bob

by StripesForLife on Aug 19, 2011 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’d bring back a first rounder at the trade deadline, was my point.

by Skyff on Aug 20, 2011 3:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Last Penguins jersey I bought was a Chris Kunitz one...

… that’s all I need to say on this topic:)

You have to see it for yourself...

by Bla Razor on Aug 17, 2011 2:32 PM EDT reply actions  

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