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Blame for Savard's Condition Shouldn't Rest Solely on Cooke

Any time anyone, especially a Pens fan, defends Matt Cooke in reference to Marc Savard, the reaction is the same:

"You're a homer. Cooke is a low-life, cheap shot artist."

"No, Cooke shouldn't even be in the NHL. For as long as Savard is out, so should Cooke."

Believe me, we've heard you, Bruins fans. Loud and clear and on numerous occasions.

I really want to emphasize that we, Pens fans, feel for Savard and the entire situation. If we could go back in time and affect the neurons in Cooke's brain to direct him away from Savard's head, we'd jump at the opportunity. We hate that this had to happen and not because of the drama that has arisen, but because, despite what other fan bases think, we're good people and we love hockey, not the injuries. And trust us when we say we know what you're going through which is why we are so sympathetic to the situation. I'd even argue that we're in a worse situation, possibly losing the greatest player in the NHL. But in the end, we wouldn't wish this on anyone.

Bruins fans wasted no time letting their hatred fly toward Cooke following today's news regarding Savard's inability to take part in the 2011-2012 season. The news is terrible, but the constant blame on Cooke is borderline childish at this point. I understand Bruins fans want answers and they need someone to blame when a talented player such as Savard has to abruptly stop his hockey career, but Cooke isn't the only reason why Savard can't play this season.

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I won't sit here and say Cooke should be free of blame because he isn't. Although I'm very curious as to why Matt Hunwick doesn't get any attention. After all, doctors deemed Savard healthy enough to clear him to play following Cooke's hit. It was Hunwick's hit that eventually did him in.

Here's where it gets interesting. Despite the fact Hunwick's hit on Savard was the most recent one that has led to the problems we see today, everything goes back to Cooke. Both hitters were trying to get the puck but unfortunately connected with Savard's head.

Is that entirely fair? I don't think so, but hey, I'm the "homer Pens fan."

In this article, Savard addresses Hunwick's hit:

"I do remember the (Hunwick) hit," Savard said. "When I got hit, I had a quick blackout and lost any energy I had at that point in the game. I felt weak. It wasn't Matt's fault, though. I was skating fast, for once, and he finished his check. He contacted me twice since then and expressed to me how terrible he felt, but it wasn't a bad hit at all.

"The hit against Pittsburgh (Engelland) might have added to it, though."

And then we have Savard's comments on Cooke's hit:

"Well, I have obviously viewed it a couple of times and I think it was a play that didn't need to happen, obviously," said Savard Saturday morning at TD Garden. "To me it wasn't a shoulder and I watched the [Mike] Richards on [David] Booth hit. I think that was a shoulder. I think mine was more of an elbow, so I think there was an attempt to injure there. I was, obviously, very unhappy with what happened and I think it could have been avoided very easily."

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"Yeah, he has tried and he has tried to get my phone number and stuff like that," said Savard. "But from what happened I really don't, right at the moment, have any interest in talking to him and that's just how I feel. Maybe down the road, but right now, I am not feeling any better so I would rather just not talk to him."

So how much of a difference does Savard's reaction to both hits make? A huge one and it's probably the reason why there is animosity toward Cooke and not so much toward Hunwick from the fans. That shouldn't take away from any damage done from Hunwick's hit. It still happened and it is still a hit that has led Savard to miss this season.

Again, Bruins fans want an answer. They want to know "why?" and the only fact they can grasp is that Cooke, not Hunwick, started Savard in a downward spiral. In my opinion, it also comes down to the doctors and unfortunate circumstance.

I don't know Savard's case, I don't know what was up with his brain after Cooke's hit and I don't know if he was totally ready to return to the ice when he did. What I do know is a lot of time passed between Cooke's hit and when Savard was shut down for the rest of the season and, unfortunately, we won't know half of that information. The doctors who worked on him might not even know. Either way, he was cleared for contact and it could have been too soon for him to be cleared. Or, it simply could have been one too many hits to the head coming from Cooke, Engelland, Hunwick and countless other hits hockey players absorb in the course of their careers.

Pens fans are too familiar with the frustration toward doctors. Crosby was stunningly cleared to play against Tampa Bay on Jan. 5, just days after sustaining what looked like a brutal hit to the head, courtesy of David Steckel. In the Tampa game, Crosby sustained a second head injury from Victor Hedman and that was the last time we saw him in a Pens jersey. Blame began at Steckel and Hedman, but it slowly trickled away from the offending hitters to the doctors in charge of Crosby's recovery. To this day, we don't know if he was misdiagnosed or if he received too many hits to the head in a short amount of time. Or both.

Crosby's and Savard's situations are pretty similar and in the end, we still don't know what to do because we can't even get the hang of these concussions.

So many factors come into play when it comes to concussions nowadays and to solely single out one as the REASON why a player is unable to play, is ridiculous. The factors include the hitter's actions, the player getting hit and his awareness of what was happening, the doctor's diagnosis, the speed at which the player returns to exercise and further accidents that may happen upon the player's return to the ice. Each factor (and I didn't even list all of them) plays a huge role in a player's recovery from a concussion; why are Bruins fans so dead set on stopping at Cooke when a series of actions following the hit may have had just as much of an impact on his career?

Overall, Cooke is only a piece of the mysterious jigsaw puzzle and the other counterparts require just as much scrutiny. There is more to Savard's concussion problems than a game of blame Matt Cooke.

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why are Bruins fans so dead set on stopping at Cooke when a series of actions following the hit may have had just as much of an impact on his career?

Maybe because he keeps doing it?

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by Keith Quinn on Aug 31, 2011 9:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Granted, but Savard himself said he didn’t have an issue with the Cooke hit once he saw it on film. That should be enough for any fan in the matter.

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by ozman_fiftyone on Aug 31, 2011 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Savard’s comments in the post reads that he does have a problem with the hit. He says that it was an elbow. I have watched the replay also and if you can’t see that it was a dirty play than you are in denial. The difference between the two hits and the reason that Cooke gets blasted is because his was a dirty hit. Face it Cooke is a Cheapshot artist, your own GM has all but said it and has warned him several times to stop. I am not a Penns fan but I appreciate Crosby and I will tell you and anyone else that he is the best player in the world. I think he should be protected by players but it is very hard being a fan of another organazation
to feel bad for him when you have the BIGGEST cheapshot artist in the league on the same team.

by Mattx on Sep 2, 2011 3:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good point, however, this has gone on since the hit and not BECAUSE of the other hits. If people want to call Cooke the dirtiest player in the NHL, fine, but he shouldn’t be the only one blamed when it comes to Savard.

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by LauraZ on Aug 31, 2011 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not to mention it was a legal hit at the time.

by Mario's Mullet on Sep 1, 2011 7:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

exactly. at the time it was a legal hit.
blame the NHL.

by Diomedes7 on Sep 1, 2011 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Solid Article. I would have avoided Crosby comparisons just to not have Bruins fans have that ammo in their tank. Great pointing at Savard’s own statements on Cooke and the Hunwick hit. Most casual fans don’t even remember that, they just remember Matt Cooke did it.

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by ozman_fiftyone on Aug 31, 2011 9:54 PM EDT reply actions  

I need to make a retraction
“Well, I have obviously viewed it a couple of times and I think it was a play that didn’t need to happen, obviously,” said Savard Saturday morning at TD Garden. “To me it wasn’t a shoulder and I watched the [Mike] Richards on [David] Booth hit. I think that was a shoulder. I think mine was more of an elbow, so I think there was an attempt to injure there. I was, obviously, very unhappy with what happened and I think it could have been avoided very easily.”

Savard says he thinks Cooke was trying to injure him. My previous statements on this were incorrect.

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by ozman_fiftyone on Aug 31, 2011 10:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Here is the reference for the quote

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by ozman_fiftyone on Aug 31, 2011 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

The quote in the article seems to be referring to the Hunwick hit not the Cooke hit. Based on ozman’s quote above me, it seems that he does think Cooke’s hit was problematic, but that Hunwick’s was okay, and that it was Hunwick who apologized twice, not Cooke. Both are named Matt; thus, the confusion.

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by ipenguin67 on Aug 31, 2011 10:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Yup, that was my bad. Already changing some stuff up.

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by LauraZ on Aug 31, 2011 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Solid article. This doesn’t change the fact that Matt Cooke is a dirty little rat, and that if he was on any other team we’d hate him with remarkable intensity, but you are right in that he’s been made the scapegoat for Savard’s situation.

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by Chez on Aug 31, 2011 10:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Thank you and absolutely. We would hate him if he played for anyone else (which is why I’m glad he plays for us, among other reasons), but to pinpoint Savard’s possible career end to only Cooke is silly. There is a good chance he shouldn’t have been cleared in the first place, but to fault the doctors on something like concussions is tough.

The whole situation is tough.

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by LauraZ on Aug 31, 2011 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Found a typo! But otherwise great article. I hate how Savard was rushed back and what it did to his career :(

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by Leafer87 on Aug 31, 2011 10:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow, this LauraZ knows her hockey.

…just kidding. :)

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by Lindas1st on Aug 31, 2011 10:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Huh?

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by AllieLXXXVII on Aug 31, 2011 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Failed attemt at a misogynistic joke.

Is it October yet?

by Lindas1st on Aug 31, 2011 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tim Thomas is one of my favorite players, so I’ve watched Savard a good deal (When playing) over the last few years. I really like the guy and I think he’s a great hockey player. But what has really stood out to me, to the point of yelling at him through the tv, is he often doesn’t protect himself. Too many times have I seen him with his head down, or putting himself in vulnerable position, usually resulting in him sitting on his back end afterwards. It’s tragic that a player like Savard may never lace up his skates in the NHL again because of injury, but the blame can’t be placed solely on Cooke. What he did was awful, and it was even worse that it was legal at the time, but if not him then someone else, somewhere else.

by Skyff on Sep 1, 2011 4:34 AM EDT reply actions  

I’m just really sick of this whole topic at this point. As you said, we know what he did was wrong. We didn’t like it either, and we feel as bad as anyone about Savard. Could you please leave us alone?

by SlayerGhaleon on Sep 1, 2011 5:10 AM EDT reply actions  

What I find interesting is that Penguins fans looked to David Steckel and Victor Hedman for about four days. They the questions about procedure started. Why did the PENGUINS let Sid back on the ice for that Tampa game? How could the DOCTORS have been so irresponsible.

After all this time there are too many people looking to blame Matt Cooke as the reason Savard my never play again. Ask about the Bruins train of throught rushing him back so fast and then doing it AGAIN.

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by ozman_fiftyone on Sep 1, 2011 5:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well done, Laura. Agree. Cooke needs to share some of the responsibility, but he is not the sole reason for Mark Savard’s current situation. Whenever he came back, from the recent concussions or from bad hits even prior to the Cooke hit, I always wondered about how quickly he returned, much as I wonder about how quickly others have returned. I know concussions are all different, but I always wonder if those who return so soon have truly been totally honest with themselves and pushed themselves prior to returning to ensure that they have truly healed completely. How many of them really pushed to 100% to test themselves prior to being cleared? They may have; yes. But, I still wonder if they aren’t truly testing themselves before they put their heads at risk again.

by SuMac on Sep 1, 2011 7:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Yes, Cooke is dirty, but Savard had about 5 concussions before the Cooke hit. I’m not sure why no one mentions this but to me it seemed like he was playing on borrowed time for quite a while.

by DrPainDDS on Sep 1, 2011 10:52 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

So is that how you feel about Sid. To say that is just rediculous. You will be the first one bi#$hing when Sid gets his bell rung again. To me I would not be suprised if Cooke is in a Penns uniform or any other uniform by the end of the season.

by Mattx on Sep 2, 2011 3:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is Crosby’s first set of concussions so how can you compare the two?

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by LauraZ on Sep 2, 2011 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s how I feel about anyone that plays a contact sport and has had that many concussions.

by DrPainDDS on Sep 2, 2011 9:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Well written article.

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by GoPenguins on Sep 1, 2011 11:43 PM EDT reply actions  

how do you know how many concusions he has had. Cause he or the team says its his first two that means its true. I have suffered many concusions and I am of the age where when I was young it just meant you got your bell rung and you went about what you were doing. From my experience this is not Sids first set of concusions because he would not be having this many problems if it was. I grew up playing hockey and riding motocross you normally don’t have lingering affects by just having two concusions. No matter what the situations for comments show that you are just ignorant to say that about someone. If someone said that about your precious Sid how would you feel and I am not a fan of either team!!!!

by Mattx on Sep 2, 2011 8:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Funny how Chara almost kills a guy on the ice and the Bruins fans, of course, give him a free pass. They even cast blame on the stanchion itself. Funny how hockey players have been dishing hits for many decades and yet they’ve managed not to ram eachother’s faces into that stanchion. And as a player of 17 years myself, don’t try and tell me Chara didn’t know exactly where he was on the ice. Hypocrites. Cooke wasn’t Savard’s first concussion and it wasn’t his last. And I am NOT defending Cooke, I would’ve been fine with releasing him after that last hit that ended his season. And I’d be fine with it if they cut him today.

by CaptainFantastik on Sep 2, 2011 11:46 PM EDT reply actions  

not a bruins fan or a pens fan and I never said the Chara hit was leagal. Sorry if I can’t go back and rank all the bad hits but we were talking about this one in particular. Every team has had a bad hit that is not the point.

by Mattx on Sep 3, 2011 5:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

First off let me say that I am not a fan of the Bruins or Pens. Second every team has players or hits that are dirty so you can’t go over all of them we are talking about this one because it was the post. Third, I have respect for you because you are one of the very few Pens fans that I have heard or read that have come out and not try to defend this dirtbag. Lastly I think people are upset because of all of these things but most importantly your fans have done nothing but bi!!h about what happened to Sid but yet you have the worst cheap shot artist in the league. Not only that but MOST Pens fans defended him. I am not of the opinion that we need to make hockey some wus sport quite the contrary but when you go out of your way to continually try to injure other players than there is no place for that in the greatest sport on earth.

by Mattx on Sep 3, 2011 5:35 AM EDT reply actions  

You’re missing something (and something I addressed in the article). Yes, we’re upset about Sid. HOWEVER, we are not upset at Steckel and Hedman. I mean sure, there’s some frustration that they were careless but comparing our anger to them to the B’s fans anger to Cooke is like comparing apples to oranges.

Not sure if you came on here just to discuss, but I make my reasons why we defend Cooke pretty clear above.

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by LauraZ on Sep 3, 2011 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Laura obviously you are willing to have converstation about this and not just jump down my throat because I may disagree or have an outside looking in perspective. I am of the opinion that the first hit on Crosby which was the Steckel hit was no one’s fault. I have looked at it many times and I really believe that a) Steckel was not even looking at Sid he turned to follow the play up ice. b) Sid did what a lot of players do and it is not his fault he turned and was watching the puck instead of where he was going. If you disagree that is fine but I think if you watch the play you will see that it is what happened.

With the case of the Hedman hit that is different but still I don’t thin there was an intent to hurt Sid. This was an illegal play though borderline because if you are honest with yourself you will see that this happens every game and sometimes it is called but most of the time it is not. Sid was up against the boards on that play he was not four or three feet away. It probably should have been a pentalty and I am not sure if it was called.

I think in the Cooke hit, the fact that this guy has a reputation of trying to go out of his way to injure other players is the problem. I understand wanting to defend your player I do, but at some point you have to see it for what it is. I would gladly give him another shot but I mean this is it. Are we suppose to wait until he breaks someone’s neck out there. I have seen it too many times with this dirtbag, I think at some boint either he or someone else is going to get hurt very badly. The reason I say he will is because someone is going to go out of their way to do it and then where is that going to put the sport.

I guess what I am saying is because Cooke is a repeat offender to this behavior is the difference. I would be more than happy to hear what you have too say we all have opinions it does not mean mine are right and your are wrong but at least they are OURS.

by Mattx on Sep 4, 2011 3:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

repeat offender

judge the ACTION
not the reputation

b/c Chara never gets called for his action (most recently nearly KILLING Max Pacioretty) does that mean he’s NOT a “repeat offender?”

same argument could have been made about Ovechkin until a couple seasons ago when he started to pick up suspensions, albeit minor ones.

below you rant about fans allowing themselves to become

product(s) of the ESPN generation (who) just believe whatever the two guys are tellling you on that shinny box and the perpetuate it so it just becomes the norm.

yet you are doing the same thing with respect to Cooke

by Diomedes7 on Sep 4, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also I don’t think Chara should get a pass either, I think the difference is that it seems to be a regular thing that Cooke does. I just don’t understand the mentality that says " It was only a matter of time" I think that is ignorant and unfair. If the shoe was on the other foot and it may be the case sooner or later with your superstar you would be furious.

by Mattx on Sep 3, 2011 5:40 AM EDT reply actions  

There is no use...

trying to convince a New Englander of anything they aren’t already convinced of. Boston has the most hard headed people on earth living there. Be that as it my, I don’t like Matt Cooke. I don’t like him on my team because he does not play Penguins hockey, he plays Flyers hockey. He is dirty and I cringe every time he hits someone.

Too bad there hasn't always been a DH...then we never would have to hear about this Ruth guy...

by Brad Spontak on Sep 3, 2011 3:10 PM EDT reply actions  

It’s interesting you say he plays Flyers hockey since the Flyers have toned down their bully play and have really focused on making good decisions on the ice, something we haven’t seen for a while, especially since Crosby was drafted. I’ve seen numerous articles talking about how the Pens and Flyers have swapped places because the Pens play more physical (and rack up more penalty minutes) than the Flyers nowadays.

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by LauraZ on Sep 3, 2011 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

In order to know what you just stated Laura Z, you would have to be a real hockey fan. Someone like you who obviously takes the time to understand the game and what is going on with it would know that. Someone like Brad S. just takes the sterotypes of an organization and runs with it. Instead of accually looking at facts. Kinda of like how Philly has the worst fans cause we booed Santa 40 years ago or threw batteries 20 years ago. Its not his fault he is a product of the ESPN generation just believe whatever the two guys are tellling you on that shinny box and the perpetuate it so it just becomes the norm. Meanwhile you have fans on the West coast who are beating each other to death and shooting one another but yet Philly is still the worst, and most violent fans. Brad do yourself a favor go out and do your own thinking. Try to form your own opinion on something just don’t always believe what people tell you. If everyone did this we would still think the earth is flat.

by Mattx on Sep 4, 2011 3:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Savard had many concussions, these were not even his first two. I agree it was a terrible hit, “exactly” like Steckel’s hit on Crosby. But the amazing thing is that no one blames Steckel (or Hedman) because they’re not a repeat offender – they didn’t get suspended this time either, so they’re still not a repeat offender. So the NHL makes their decisions & the “hits” go on. In Crosby’s interview in April, I believe that he said that they were both illegal hits by all the criteria. Now I’m not a hockey player so my assessment could be wrong, but he’s the best & a man of integrity, so his assessment is no doubt accurate! And even the Pens fans (?) seem to think it was alright to bang Sid’s head around. Corey Perry said today that he thinks headshots have to be banned if they’re not accidental, & leave it up to the League to decide about that. Well, hopefully Shanahan will know what he’s doing, because Colin Campbell certainly didn’t , or maybe he did & is prejudiced. Well, no maybe about it, when he suspended Cooke for even the 1st round of the playoffs for a hit where the guy didn’t even go off the ice, or miss the rest of the game, or any games after – must have been a wicked hit!

by penguinite on Sep 9, 2011 3:10 PM EDT reply actions  

One the Steckel hit wasn’t anyones fault and if you think it was your blind. Sid was obviously following the puck and not watching where he was going. Steckel was turning up ice so you are wrong about “exactly” same hit. What you believe is wrong he never said Steckel’s hit was illegal. You are wrong check your facts. Look at the play and obviously if you have played you know that the Steckel hit was accidental. The sad part is you don’t have to play to see that you just have to watch it.

by Mattx on Sep 17, 2011 2:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

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