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DETROIT - APRIL 25: Radim Vrbata #17 of the Phoenix Coyotes celebrates his second period goal with Robert Lang #20 and Taylor Pyatt #14 while playing the Detroit Red Wings during Game Six of the Western Conference Quarterfinals of the 2010 NHL Stanley Cup Playoffs on April 25, 2010 at Joe Louis Arena in Detroit, Michigan.  (Photo by Gregory Shamus/Getty Images)

Doing a job, doing it well and eliciting yawns or ire.

It's something I call the "Robert Lang Effect."

Lang was signed by the Penguins in 1997, returning from a spell in the Czech Republic after disappointing with the Los Angeles Kings. The Bruins claimed him on waivers not even a month after he was signed by the Penguins. And then, less than a month later, the Penguins reclaimed him on waivers.

This all took place between Sep. 2 and Oct. 25.

Lang didn't show much in Boston and he didn't in Pittsburgh either. As an offensively inclined player, he only put up 22 points in 54 games for the Pens.

Gradually, cheap, relatively young talent in Martin Straka and Alexei Kovalev made their way to Pittsburgh. Soon the duo formed a line made in heaven with Lang and terrorized opposing defenses.

For two seasons the KLS line, as it was fondly referred to, finished 2-3-4 in scoring for the Penguins in some combination or another.

Of the three, Lang was the ugly duckling.

Kovalev was the sniper, Straka was the shifty playmaker. Lang was the scraggly, unshaven guy who was just kind of there.

In truth, Lang was well-rounded on the puck, able to shoot and pass with effect, and possessed an excellent offensive mind and positional awareness. He found holes in the defense, beat goaltenders with simple movements and racked points without really looking like he was doing anything.

Which made him look lesser than Kovalev and Straka. It was easy to do that next to a Kovalev or Straka.

But almost everyone you talked to was absolutely positive that Lang was a bum. You couldn't turn on the radio or stumble onto the Penguins message board without getting into an argument over his worth. If you were a Lang backer, like I was, you were frequently in the minority.

The Pens ran out of money. The team started to fall apart.

Lang signed with the Washington Capitals and flourished. He was the Capitals leading scorer in 2003-04 by a wide margin with 74 points in 63 games. Second on the team was Sergei Gonchar with 49 points. Both were traded by the end of the season, Lang to the Detroit Red Wings..

In Detroit he continued to score. He then bounced around to Chicago, Montreal and Phoenix, valued as a power play option and versatile scoring threat.

The point isn't that Lang was better than Kovalev or Straka, he wasn't. The point is that he was a valuable, skilled player who never received full recognition for his worth while donning black and gold.

So, the question is, at the midway point of the season, who is the 2011-12 Penguins' Robert Lang?

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Do you think people are too hard on Jordan Staal because he's not Sidney Crosby or Evgeni Malkin? Or that Paul Martin is overly scrutinized? Does Pascal Dupuis take too much heat for not producing higher numbers? Has Chris Kunitz gotten a bum rap for not scoring enough goals? Is Brooks Orpik is glossed over far too often?

Take this from the perspective of a Penguins fan hearing the opinions of other Penguins fans, rather than the NHL as a whole. For example, if you believe James Neal should be on the list, do it from the viewpoint of what you hear in Pittsburgh rather than him being an All-Star snub.

We'll take the best nominees from the comments section and start a poll tomorrow. If a particularly eloquent nomination is dictated, perhaps the commenter can write an ode to He Whom is Deemed Most Lang-like.

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Matt Niskanen

2 goals, 14 assists, team best +11. Been able to play in 45 of 46 games- which the team has needed with Orpik, Letang, Martin and Michalek all missing chunks of the season.

Niskanen’s been asked to play in every situation; powerplay, penalty kill, even strength, with a rotating cast of defensive partners up and down the lineup.

5th on the team in blocked shots, 6th on the team in hits, he’s done a little bit of everything well. And, at least officially he only has 12 giveaways, much less than the other regular defensemen per game, he’s been very smart with the puck.

Not bad for a guy who was becoming a fan whipping boy this summer.

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by Hooks Orpik on Jan 20, 2012 3:22 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

If he continues his current level of play through the rest of the season, I think you could certainly make that argument.

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by Hooks Orpik on Jan 20, 2012 3:51 PM EST up reply actions  

this could be a toss up between Niskanen or Pascal Dupuis imo

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by Randy F on Jan 20, 2012 3:56 PM EST reply actions  

I'm pleased that a "spare part"

which is how Dupuis came to Pittsburgh, has been as productive as we’ve seen. I didn’t know anybody was down on him.

by Desroko on Jan 20, 2012 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Richard Park

Hasn’t done a ton offensively but he’s been there when we need another center and scores some goals. I think he fits the category for “under-appreciated” because no one seems to ever says his name unless he scores a goal that night. Great signing by Shero.

by CARBONITE on Jan 20, 2012 4:56 PM EST reply actions  

Just adding to my post,

I think it’s pretty much between Park, Dupuis and Nisky. Might could throw Engo and Lovejoy in there.

by CARBONITE on Jan 20, 2012 5:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I think most all of these guys are accurately appreciated. Niskanen was the only one that people (me included) were trying to run out of town early on, but I think most everyone agrees that he’s played up to his capabilities and up to his cap hit. The answer is clearly Crosby…no one ever mentions him anymore :) what’s he done lately? nothin for nobody

by AronV on Jan 20, 2012 5:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Well whats odd is at the start of this year, I was like the only penguin fan that liked Niskanen on the roster. I thought he should stay despite his contract. I still think he’s a little under-appreciated and I think he’s a good player but I’d like to see him get traded in a package at the deadline for a forward. I wonder what you could get for Nisky and Engo + a draft pick? Have Despres and Lovejoy on the third pairing and Picard as a healthy scratch. With a lot of depth already and Morrow and Harrington brewing in the CHL, I think we would be safe as far as defense goes. Maybe even take out Niskanen and put Paul Martin in the trade and have Nisky move to the second line. But why am I rambling about trades in this thread??
/smacks self

by CARBONITE on Jan 20, 2012 5:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Does the number of games Park has played count against him?

by Stephen Catanese on Jan 20, 2012 7:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess it does to a point

But he’s been under-rated when he does play. So I’m not sure but he’s just a suggestion.

by CARBONITE on Jan 20, 2012 8:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Hmmm...not an easy one...

because most of the players have had to go above and beyond during the past season but if I had to pick it would probably be a choice of either Matt Niskanen for the reasons Hooks states, or Deryk Engelland. I’d have Engelland in the running mainly because he has applied himself and worked on his game, improving it to the point where you often see him out against some very good opponents and holding his own…you’re not holding your breath that he might try to do something fancy and get burned for it. He just gets the job done.

by Warp_Blaze on Jan 20, 2012 5:00 PM EST reply actions  

There’s definitely an argument to be made for Engelland. I’m surprised there are no Lovejoy advocates here. Or Staal, for that matter.

I almost think Staal could be a reasonable nominee for most underrated and overrated.

by Stephen Catanese on Jan 20, 2012 7:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Matt Cooke

Has adjusted his style of play PRECISELY as requested by Lemieux, Shero, et al.
Still hitting. Just judiciously now.
One of the top PK-ers in the NHL.

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by Diomedes7 on Jan 20, 2012 5:43 PM EST reply actions  

Craig Adams

Especially among casual fans since he rarely scores, but he’s such a big part of our PK. I think his PK abilities get overshadowed by Staal, but he’s a big reason why it’s so good. Despite being a Harvard grad, he’s dumb enough to lay down in front of shots, which is something we should all be grateful for!

by CaseyR82 on Jan 20, 2012 8:13 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

This.

He’s definitely appreciated enough within this site but its hard to find a pens fan that thinks he more than a 4th line grinder.
Maybe that’s only because I only go to one game-per-year at console energy center and live down in Virginia but everyone else I know that rocks a pens sweater doesn’t appreciate him enough.

by CARBONITE on Jan 20, 2012 8:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Chris Kunitz

If Lang is the barometer, its gotta be Kunitz. He is constantly playing with top talent on the team like Lang was, and is capable of respectable point totals should he ever play a full healthy season as his has so far this year, putting him on pace for a mid-50s point total.

by PDunn on Jan 21, 2012 1:14 AM EST reply actions  

Sorry, Staal is my man, I’ll take him over Malkin, and Sid in his state of flux.

I want them all but if they trade Jordan, I will have to think of my allegience. (Also Fluery… that could hurt worse)

by Svedish Chef on Jan 21, 2012 1:42 AM EST reply actions  

As a goalie myself, I gotta go with Flower

He’s been there consistently despite the plethora of injuries to the guys in front of him.

by jedmiller71 on Jan 21, 2012 7:55 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Pascal Dupuis!

I love that guy, have done since I watched him in person here in Atlanta. He never takes a shift off – he’s a grinder with speed and some decent hand skills. He’d get my vote for Pens’ unsung hero.

by KrisLuvsthePens on Jan 23, 2012 6:06 PM EST reply actions  

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