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Ovechkin Still Doesn't Get It


Alexander Ovechkin was suspended 3 games yesterday for his illegal charge into Penguins defenseman Zbynek Michalek during Sunday's OT win again the Washington Capitals. I initially thought the number of games was low given that Ovechkin has been fined twice and suspended twice prior for his physical play.

It was good to see Brendan Shanahan give games at all to Ovechkin given the continuing lack of consistency in NHL supplemental discipline. The hit, the reaction, and why Ovechkin still hasn't learned anything all after the jump.

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I think it's best to just put the suspension explanation video in here, which showcases the hit Ovechkin put on Michalek and the NHL Department of Player Safety's reasoning behind the suspension.

So, three games. I am happy that the NHL recognizes the hit was illegal and makes sure to point out that the launch, which classifies this hit as a Charge per Rule 42, is the primary problem here. Michalek's head is contacted and the NHL makes sure to also point out that Ovechkin is responsible for that contact because he intentionally launches himself into Michalek.

However the NHL continues to point at the lack of injury, or the result of the play, as something it takes into consideration. One of these days they will understand that the action, Ovechkin intentionally leaving his feet, is problem here. To say that the "lack of apparent injury" to Michalek has anything to do with the number of games Ovi receives is like saying that a DUI driver didn't kill anyone, so his driving under the influence wasn't as bad of a decision. The NHL has to address the motivation to launch, not the result of the play.

Additionally head contact was made and sometimes concussion/post-concussion symptoms take days to emerge. If Michalek can't play hockey next week due to massive headaches, does Shanahan tack on games for Ovechkin? No.

The NHL is not addressing these types of plays properly. The decision to act like that by the player, not the result of the action, should be the consideration here.

Ovechkin sat down with reporters today and discussed his suspension.

There are so many things wrong with his response to the suspension it's not even funny. He says:

  • "All my career it's gonna be like that" - that to me signifies he has zero intent to change his reckless style of play
  • "I don't think it was bad hit" - He is obviously unfamiliar with the rules regarding charging and also thinks the head contact was fine.
  • "Yeah I jump but he don't get hurt" - acknowledges that he leaps on purpose, sees no problem with it. Also shows he thinks like the NHL does, that the result of his actions matter more than the actions themselves.
  • "It's always gonna be hit in the head, it's always gonna be dirty plays" - He thinks that hockey is a game that will always involve head contact (and that's fine) and will be played dirty.

Alexander Ovechkin is the captain of a hockey team. He thinks Zbynek Michalek (who had very low momentum in comparison to Ovi's blazing speed into the leap) should "stand and hit back" in that situation. If Michalek does not brace for the hit as described by Shanahan, I don't want to know how much worse the result of that play would have been.


Ovechkin, as a "leader", should evaluate the style of play he employs at this point and make changes not just for himself but for the team he wears the C for. This is his fifth occurrance of supplemental discipline in only his sixth NHL season. Last season when Matt Cooke hit his fifth interaction with fines and suspension, he sat for 17 games. Instead Ovechkin plays the victim and points to the lack of discipline for Michalek, for his hit on Matt Hendricks in the same game, as the reason he should have not been suspended. There are a few reasons Z was not suspended.

  • Michalek does not have the prior offender status that Ovechkin has
  • Hendricks is very low on the play, trying to avoid most of the check. (Michalek does make head contact and that is what should matter tho.)
  • Michalek was actually assessed a penalty on the play

I thought the play merited at least a fine if not a one game suspension regardless as did most of the rational hockey fans I spoke to. Looking at Ovechkin, the Captials organization and the reporters in the room use the lack of discipline for Michalek as a way to turn Ovechkin into the victim here makes me wish it even more.


In the end Alex Ovechkin still doesn't get it. He thinks launching himself into people is perfectly fine as long as no one gets hurt despite having no control over the outcome of his recklesss behavior. He still doesn't understand that the act of leaping into someone is against the rules of hockey. He thinks that penalties and suspensions are an even-up thing, dished out game to game. He got off light in this situation in my opinion. He needs to look at Matt Cooke's history and go "phew" instead of looking at the lack of action on Michalek and crying.

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Ovechkin really hasn’t done anything to ever merit wearing the C (especially after skipping the ASG because he needs to pout). The only reason he got it was because Crosby earned it and the Craps figured they should put it on the face of their franchise as well. Marketing and all. To expect him to “get it” at this point is almost a pointless exercise. I only say almost because Matt Cooke showed people can fix their play during their careers. For the health of hockey, I hope Ovie eventually does.

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by blackjackfishtaco on Jan 24, 2012 7:25 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

I would have preferred a better reason for missing the ASG.
“It is a stupid exhibition that no one cares about right in the middle of a tight NHL season. At least the shootout at the end of a game has fan interest in the outcome. At least the Olympics has fan interest in the outcome. What does the ASG have? Nothing. It is a joke. I’m gonna stay home and look at lesbian porn.”

I respect honesty.

by vodkasoda on Jan 24, 2012 9:10 PM EST reply actions  

There are intangibles that make champions

and Ovy doesn’t seem to have them.

Well written piece on another example of this lack.

by s1rude on Jan 24, 2012 11:13 PM EST reply actions  

very good assessment of his actions. Regarding your comparison to DUI’s, I think it’s more similar than you may think. Anyone who gets caught driving drunk WILL get arrested, but if that drunk driving resulted in an injury to another, then that person will get more charges tacked on. I think that’s kinda where the NHL is going with these types of hits. Anyone who gets caught doing these needless dirty plays is going to be punished(except for PK Subban for some reason), BUT if that needless dirty plays results in an injury, then more games are tacked on. I’m not saying I agree with it, just trying to rationalize it

by NoVAPensFan on Jan 25, 2012 12:48 AM EST reply actions  

If you try to murder someone and fail, the sentence is different than if you succeed. If you have a couple joints in your car, you get a different sentence than if you had enough that the police assume you’ve been selling it (even if you weren’t). The law is full of cases like this, and I don’t really understand why everyone expects the NHL’s “sentencing” to be any different. I’m not saying I agree one way or the other, but I understand

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by JustinM on Jan 25, 2012 10:20 AM EST up reply actions  

There are different reasons explaining punishment

One function is to punish someone for their faulty deed. This retributive justice demands proportionality to harm: an offender deserves their just deserts. This punishment looks backwards at the crime and not forward at correcting future crimes

Another function of punishment is deterrence. This is forward looking and the punishment is designed to alter cost/benefit analysis of restricted behavior.

Therefore, if you adopt the first theory of why we punish then the affect of the crime — the harm — must be included. If you believe punishment is related merely to preventing future misbehavior, then you fit well into the second theory. It seems the NHL accepts a hybrid of the two. There is a base for offenses. This deters bad behavior. So, for Ovie the three game suspension is designed to prevent him from committing another crime. However, if ZM was harmed, then the NHL would have given Ovie 3 games + x to pay back for the harm he created.

by zeke5123 on Jan 30, 2012 9:45 PM EST up reply actions  

just like in real life…the law adopts a hybrid of the two theories as well, so in that regard, I cant really fault Shanahan for taking “actual injury” into the equation

by NoVAPensFan on Feb 1, 2012 4:50 AM EST up reply actions  

until the nhl realizes that you cant base suspensions on the outcome of the event

there will continue to be head shots and illegal hits I will readily admit that it is rare that i catch a game these days, mainly because of this one issue. can you imagine where the nfl or mlb would be if they based their suspensions on injuries? harrison would never have been suspended, bench clearing brawls on the diamond are fine, and bean ball would be an every day occurrence. this policy doesn’t do anything to curb hits, particularly in the hockey player culture. unless its broken or you’re puking you’re playing. Is there more awareness at the club and player level now on concussions? certainly. however i will always remember players playing with their jaws wired shut in the playoffs, guys playing with torn ligaments, and so on.

lets base our suspensions off of injury’s. because thats a great idea when you are talking about some of the toughest athletes to exist….

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by oldtimehockey09 on Jan 25, 2012 4:53 AM EST reply actions  

harrison would never have been suspended

Why do you say that? IIRC last season, Massaquoi missed time after that hit, and McCoy definitely missed time this year because of the helmet to the jaw.

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by JustinM on Jan 25, 2012 10:21 AM EST up reply actions  

figure of speech

and, sry i have no love for mccoy, dude was VERY late on his ‘slide’ and past the LOS

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by oldtimehockey09 on Jan 25, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

He didn’t slide at all, and he was still behind the LOS (had to be, he threw a legal forward pass on the play). We’re obviously thinking about two different plays.

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by JustinM on Jan 25, 2012 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

probably

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by oldtimehockey09 on Jan 26, 2012 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Excellent post. Ovie, doesn’t get it, he never did and never will. That’s why he is not a star in this league.

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by Outcast on Jan 25, 2012 10:31 AM EST reply actions  

he is a star in the league

and thats why he only got three games. wonder what the suspension would have been if it had been a guy like cookie. I think on that particular hit 3 games is fine, however i still highly doubt that the league will do anything the next time he charges a guy…like he does every single time he throws a hit.

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by oldtimehockey09 on Jan 25, 2012 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Cooke?

if it had been cooke it would been 20+ games
he got 17 the last time — including playoffs — for an equal or lesser infraction

Ovechkin got off easy
and now he’s trying to threaten the NHL w/ his boycott of the ASG b/c of the suspension
I don’t think that’s going to work
not w/ Shanahan

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by Diomedes7 on Jan 25, 2012 9:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Correction, there are some who think he is a star. He doesn’t play like a star, at least not lately, and he is not the same player he was a few years ago. He is a has been .

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by Outcast on Jan 25, 2012 9:19 PM EST up reply actions  

cooke has a much worse prior history than OV…I believe OV got what he deserved, I have no problem with a 3 game shanaban. Next time this happens, it will be increased tremendously I believe

by NoVAPensFan on Jan 28, 2012 12:16 AM EST up reply actions  

cooke wsnt the guy

who tore up a defensemans knee
cooke isnt the guy whos charges just so happen to not get called

has cooke made some really bad in game decisions in regards to hits? yes
has AO made some really bad decisions in regards to in game hits? yes

the only difference is that when youre a dominant player in the league (for most of his career AO has been) refs tend to look the other way

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by oldtimehockey09 on Jan 28, 2012 10:13 PM EST up reply actions  

we all know what the biggest difference is between their two prior histories. Matt Cooke threw one of the nastiest (IMO dirtiest) hits in the NHL this last decade to Marc Savard. A hit from which he still hasn’t recovered. AO is a dirty POS in my opinion, and the NHL is putting him on the fast track to Shanaban Land, but he still hasn’t ended anyone’s career

by NoVAPensFan on Jan 30, 2012 2:23 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree

except that to agree completely is to ignore the element of time. Now, the Savard hit is dirty. Then, it was legal and celebrated. Scott Stevens was called a tough guy for all the brain damage he caused.

When AO is done sulking, he will return and grudgingly change his game.

by vodkasoda on Feb 1, 2012 1:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Not trying to be smartass, but I don’t remember anyone celebrating the cooke hit…the comparison between Scott Stevens or Darius Kasparaitis (sp?) and AO is just about dead on…as a young pen fan I remember cheering with glee everytime one of them or Ulf Samuelsen laid a bone crunching “de-cleater” check to an opponent (especially if it was a Flyer) without any regard for the long term effects of those hits…however, this is a new era not just for Hockey but for sports in general. One where head injuries are considered serious and deserve a special kind of treatment, and if AO can’t get on board with that, then he should go back to KHL where he’ll get off scott free with those hits

by NoVAPensFan on Feb 1, 2012 4:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Excellent post

I hadn’t actually watched all that video before, and it’s a lot more shocking than I expected. Especially the Ovi interview. I kind of assumed it would be more just mouthing the party line, saying things like “I was disappointed in the suspension, but the league gets to make the decision so I’ll deal with it.” and “Brendan Shanahan says it was a bad hit so I guess it was a bad hit.” None of that admits any responsibility, but at least it’s pretty safe. Instead…you are right…his comments make it clear that he really doesn’t get it.

I guess we’ll see if the extra time off leads him to think about it at all, or if he just gets a little more time to re-charge than the rest of his teammates.

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by PopRocks on Jan 25, 2012 3:55 PM EST reply actions  

it’s gonna happen again….I almost guarantee it, and when it does, he’s gonna get suspended for much longer and THEN maybe he’ll “get it”. The main problem is that he’s got his dumbass owner in his corner telling him that he’s playing the right way and that he shouldn’t change who he is. Next time, they should suspend Leonsis for egging him on

by NoVAPensFan on Jan 28, 2012 12:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Terrific Post

He is nowhere near the top of the league in scoring, and he has no other aspect to his game, so he shouldn’t be there in the first place.
And I will never forgive him for the knee on knee hit to Gonch in the playoffs, that was a blatant cheap shot.

by jedmiller71 on Jan 26, 2012 9:05 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

since that play

he has been on a steady spiral downward. and i hated him before the hit to gooch, despise him even more after. i dont think he got any discipline for that either.

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by oldtimehockey09 on Jan 26, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

I almost didn’t read this article because from the title I figured it was another biased nonsensical article bashing the star and captain of a hated rival. I hate reading those kind of articles regardless of whether it’s against the Pens or another team.

I was disappointed to see this wasn’t the case and that you actually had a good point. Well written article. One thing is playing the game with edge, but to have one of the iconic players in the league act like he did nothing wrong when he crossed the line is not something I like to see.

I also have a problem with the NHL factoring in the injury question with regards to suspensions, it shouldn’t matter. It’s good to see some attention given to this problem.

by Skyff on Jan 28, 2012 8:12 AM EST reply actions  

Odd. This doesn’t look like The Pensblog.

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by winterion on Feb 1, 2012 2:11 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

While I don’t agree on the principle of basing suspension length in part on the resulting injury, the NHL has made that a precedent, and after the Wheel of Justice years, I’d rather we get to a point of consistency, even if imperfect consistency, than stay on the spinning dial of randomness. The system can be fixed, but if it’s not static, what’s the point?

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by winterion on Feb 1, 2012 2:10 PM EST reply actions  

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