Who signs, gets traded, or walks?
In this blog i will make an attempt to discuss which upcoming FA's from the penguins roster should be re-signed, traded by the deadline, or walks away at free agency. The biggest name is of course James Neal and i will try to throw in a few players from the baby pens as well.
James Neal - We all expected Neal to improve his numbers from the slow start he had after he was traded to the pens, but few would expect him to be tied for 2nd in the league in goals scored. With 27 goals on the season, he only trails Stamkos (a former rocket richard winner) by 5 goals, and is currently tied with the blackhawks captain Toews. He currently leads the team and has one more goal than Malkin. He is a RFA next year and from the many blogs, comments, and rants about him, he could earn anywhere between 4-6 mil. So what do the pens do with him? I think anybody who is remotely familiar with the Pittsburgh Penguins knows that the team needs to resign him. "Like any other player we've wanted to sign, we'll find a way to sign him," Shero said of Neal. "And we'll find a way with James as well." There is little to no doubt that Neal will be wearing a Pens sweater next season, but for how much and how long remains undecided.
Steve Sullivan - Sullivan came into the season expecting to contribute on the power play and most likely with Malkin. At 1.5 mil, the cap hit isnt bad, but some did expect him to put up better numbers than what he has now, especially being on a line with Malkin. Of course the frustrating string of injuries to the team doesnt help, but Sullivan has (for the majority) been on a line with Malkin. He currently has 23 points, currently 5th best on the team, but he could be doing better given who he is playing with, and his +/- isnt the greatest at -7, but hey it could be worse (cough**michalek**cough). The good thing about this signing is that a player who is signed at only 1.5 mil and is on pace to eclipse 40 points in the season is always a good thing to have. The health of the team has thrown him into a little more demanding role, but with a healthy team he does add depth to the Pens. Give him another shot, re-sign him for another year and hopefully he gets a chance to play on a team with a healthy crosby, malkin, and staal.
Aaron Asham - Im going to keep his simple. If he remains injured and not 100% let him go, if he's healthy and picks up his game again then re-sign him, hes a good 4th line guy with decent hands and is not afraid to drop the mitts. Very loyal to his team and will throw the body around. His stats aren't the greatest this year, but the injuries to him and the team doesn't help anybody. He has much playoff experience and can't really beat his cap hit.
Richard Park - This year he has proven a spot on the Pens, but what about on a healthy team? With the emergence of Vitale and if Asham does resign he is not needed. This is a guy they can afford to let walk without missing much. Park has shown some great work ethic and speed, but he is not a necessity.
Joe Vitale - Well as i just said, with Vitale emerging, he has earned a spot on this team. Not the biggest guy, but he has gotten himself into a couple fights trying to prove his worth, and he has done a good job. He's not bad on the faceoffs and stepped up when the team needed someone. At 26, he's still fairly young and will continue to get better with more NHL experience. He deserves to be resigned to the team.
Matt Niskanen - There are too many scenarios with this guy. He is having a solid season and re signing him certainly wouldn't hurt one bit. I'd be all for re signing him if the names Despres, Morrow, and Harrington weren't a part of the Pens organization. The depth that this team has on D is great which makes Niskanen much easier to let go, but he is too valuable IMHO to just let walk away. I believe he is the most likely player to be traded by the deadline. Despres has shown to be just about ready to make his spot on the roster and Engelland has stepped up his game, almost mirroring the physicality of Orpik's. Niskanen will be a key component in a trade if the Shero decides to do so. His 1.5 mil cap hit also would be nice to be able to drop.
Brent Johnson - Sure he's not having the greatest year, but he has proven to be more valuable than his cap hit of 600k in the past. Last year he was able to keep the Pens winning when Fleury was a little off. With Fleury as your starting goaltender, Johnson is perfect. Let him settle down and let his game come back to him. Give him another year as the backup, and if he continues to struggle like this for the next year, then its time to replace him. As for a backup he has done the job quite well, and i don't think it's time quite yet to throw him out.
Keven Veilleux - He needs to be resigned not only for the Baby Pens, but i think he can still make a shot at the big team. He has solid skill and has a big body which can be helpful. I still think he can become the new Mike Rupp of the team if he can still impress.
Brian Strait - Another need for the baby pens. He has also proven to be a reliable call up when injuries nag the team. He definately needs to stay, in case we see the injuries plague the team again.
Robert Bortuzzo - Almost identical to Strait, he is a good call up when needed. Great for the baby pens and can be relied on as a 6th D-man if needed.
Eric Tangradi - Hmm... He was once a solid prospect at the time, and possibly still is, but the pens don't have much need for him. He isn't able to to prove a spot on the team because he doesn't get the minutes or linemates to prove it. He will be a good add on to any trade, which i think will happen to him. Tangradi deserves a chance to be prove himself, he just can't do much with a Penguins team that has a solid 3 lines.
There are a few others like Picard, Macintyre, and Williams, but i just flat out dont see them being resigned. This is what i feel could happen, but anything can really happen. There are some other Pens players i feel who can be traded, but didn't want to include them because they are not FA's. Hope you enjoyed it, and feel free to voice what you think will happen, or what the team should do.
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Niskanen doesn’t need to be traded at the deadline, he will be a restricted free agent so they can wait. Nor will he be able to walk unless the Pens let him.
As a restricted free agent they should be able to re-sign him at a favorable salary (think goligoski RFA $1.8mil cap hit, likely on a 1 year deal), the question is whether they can afford this with Neal needing a raise. Sure you can bring up one of the AHL guys and save a million, but you really want a 5th defenseman that is a step above the next, so when your top4 has a man down you can plug him in there.
Talking about Niskanen naturally leads us to Despres. The kid has been solid and evolving at a rapid pace. Our problem is we have no room in the top4 for him and I’d hate to see him wasted on 3rd line minutes, I’d rather see him getting top ice time in the AHL then. At some point (likely not just yet) room will have to be made for him on the roster. This should also be taken into consideration when re-signing or trading Niskanen. Despres is not quite on Niskanen’s level, but he’ll get there with time.
I’m a mite disappointed with Sullivan, no pun intended. I was hoping for a bit more production, but he hasn’t been bad. He’s helped the PP and on a team that’s struggled in that discipline that’s gold. He doesn’t bring much to the team except for that and short jokes, but on the plus side he’s been healthy so far, being one of the few not missing a game to date. I’d re-sign him and if possible shave a few bucks off the salary (we need them for The Real Deal!).
Asham has played 41 of 49 so far this season, that’s acceptable. He’s delivered what you expect him to and what he’s paid to do. Hit, fight, play with energy and chip in the odd point once in a while. He has a tendency for upping his game in the playoffs, which is always important on a contender. By and large he’s replaceable, but there’s no point replacing him unless there’s something better in the system, so we might as well re-sign him. As long as he doesn’t pull a Talbot or a Rupp and expect too high a salary.
Park has been good at minimum wage. Can’t ask for more. He’s done everything we could want from him and he’s great depth. He’s got a bit more skill than Vitale which allows us to plug him in higher in the lineup when people go down, but at 4C I’d probably prefer Vitale unless Park is on a good streak. And at the same time, at that salary it doesn’t matter if he misses a few games as the 13th forward. Just like with Asham he’s replaceable, but there’s no reason to replace him. Re-sign if he doesn’t expect too high a salary.
Vitale brings it all and at a bargain price. Add a few inches and a few pounds and he’s the ideal 4th line center. As it is he’s pretty close, and he might even get better since he’s a rookie. Must be re-signed, especially since salary won’t be an issue with his RFA status.
Johnson has had a bad year, but he’s proven himself in the past. His attitude/personality and his ability in previous seasons to step in with no recent match practice and play well is gold in a backup goalie. The only thing that could shake him off the roster is if Bylsma and/or the team has lost confidence in his ability due to a bad season, or if Thiessen is looking better. I’m not familiar with Thiessen, nor the locker room feelings, so I can’t comment either way.
Strait and Bortuzzo have looked good in the handful of games they got at the NHL level. I’d say they’re ready for 3rd line duty, which is invaluable depth to have in the organization. One question is how long the Pens can hang on to them without giving them a regular spot on the NHL roster (my guess is not very long). Another question is whether either of them can knock Lovejoy out of the lineup, who I feel has had quite the sophomore slump this year.
I was surprised to see Tangradi was 0-0-0 in 12 games this season. I thought he’d played well in a limited role and would have expected to see more points up there. He’s been physical, working hard and going to the net, screening the goalie and getting dirty. I’d like to see him get a chance on a scoring line, for the first time since he was acquired I feel he’s ready. He’s reminded me of a mini-Kunitz out there. Sadly, Bylsma appears to believe otherwise.
I’d like to ask what people think of Kennedy’s future on the team. He was great last year, and this was his chance to prove it wasn’t a fluke. He’s been given every opportunity but has for the most part been a non-factor this year. He does have a nice pile of assists, and always plays with energy, but from a second line winger we also need goals. In his favor is the fact that he has one more year on his contract, so unless he’s traded he will get another chance.
I don’t see Shero shipping out any roster pieces until after the season. He won’t want to cause that kind of upheaval from messing with team chemistry in such a significant way. He might try to bring in a scoring threat, if he can find a cheap rental. Kennedy hasn’t really panned out this season and he was one of the main guys we were relying on for secondary scoring.
FWIW,
- Have to keep Niskanen, I would move Enge or Lovejoy instead. Defenseman take time to development, Letang’s development is a perfect example. I would love the Pens to keep the same blueprint with Despres, he’s close, but not ready for top 4 minutes….yet.
- Sullivan I feel has helped the power play would be worth another year
- Tangradi. I hate to say this…b-u-s-t….time to move on…
- Kennedy…..6 goals so far….really needs to get it going. could be a trade piece.
- definitely resign Park and Vitale…
Of course alot depends on whether Crosby and Staal will play again this season. I’m not getting my hopes up….if (and a big if) they put Sid on along term IR, could be cap relief to pickup maybe a top 6 guy who will be a F/A at the end of the season.
"He doesn’t know whether to cry or wind his watch."..... Mike Lange
only reason i see niskanen being traded is because neal needs the money more than nisk. niskanen is the easiest way to free up cap space without hurting the team. only way id trade kennedy would be if it involved getting a better scoring winger. I think the kennedy-staal-cooke line was always great and would love to see it again
Kennedy
No team in the NHL trades for a 3rd line winger due $2 million next season.
Neal – hopefully resigned. That will give us 2 solid top-6 wingers (he and Kunitz) to go along with 2 (hopefully all 3) centers.
Sullivan – we can always try to sign another winger to a 1-year deal. He has been great on the power play, and we could keep him as a PP specialist, and occasional top-9 winger, but he’d have to accept pay along the lines of a part-timer (about what he makes now or less).
Niskanen – I agree either he or Lovejoy will need to be moved (is Nisky a RFA this offseason or an UFA?); but as always, unless we get a great offer (ie Gogo for Neal), then one of them goes in the offseason. Engelland needs to stay because we don’t have another guy like him in terms of physical play.
Park, Asham – I like Asham because he’s physical and can score. Park has been a nice addition. If they stay OK, if they go OK. But they’re both here for the rest of this season.
The young guys – all re-sign. I can’t see another team offering enough to lure them as an RFA. Tangradi still has time to develop. He is still young, and like left-handed pitchers in baseball the “power forward” in hockey can blossom late. Give him regular 3rd-4th line minutes and let him earn his way up for a couple of years. However, if needed as a piece to a trade, he will be gone.
I agree with most of the ideas here.
Neal will be resigned one way or another.
Niskanen is the most interesting case. In my opinion Despres is ready to step in and take over now, and should be even better next year. If Shero can move him at the deadline for a scoring winger (like he did last year) he’ll move him. If not you keep him and look at the options in the off season. Either way I don’t expect him back next season. Someone else can give him top 4 minutes and give him a bigger contract too.
Also don’t forget the CBA is coming up. There is some uncertainty with the length of contracts, cap etc. that still need to be worked out. That could throw a wrinkle into Shero’s plans.
"It's a great day for hockey" - Badger Bob
I think it’s still too early to give up on Tangradi. He’s only 22 (about to be 23). Power forwards take a little longer to develop. Ryan Malone didn’t develop until he was 25. Tangradi has all the tools to succeed and he has looked good despite the fact he has had difficulty showing up on the score sheet. Either he needs a fresh start somewhere else through a trade, or he should be given another year.
by stoopidtom on Jan 29, 2012 12:20 PM EST via mobile reply actions
You can tell Neal loves playing in Pittsburgh, and for a real hockey team, in a real hockey town. He’ll get his money, but I am hoping on the idea that he follows Geno and Sid’s lead and doesn’t ask for a ridiculous amount.
I would like to keep Niskanen around too, and I think Engelland is more expendable at this point.
Vitale is staying and I can see him and DJ destroying on a line together.
Keep Park for an extra guy, but let Asham go. Dude is an eggshell now for some reason.
Johnson may retire, it wouldn’t surprise me. But it’s time to give that kid in WB/S a look at consistent NHL time, and after a year of that, figure out what you want to do with him.
Sullivan, see ya later.
And finally, Tangradi: You haven’t shown anything, and a lot of people are tired of waiting. Let him go, and focus on some of those other young players like Veilleux.
Neal-stays (5.25mill)
Niskanen-stays (1.75mill)
Sullivan-leaves (Jeffrey and Tangradi step up)
Asham-stays (0.5 mill)
Park-leaves
Vitale-stays
Johnson-stays (not enough money to improve backup position)
Tangradi-stays (has physicality needed in Pittsburgh)
MacIntyre-leaves (replaced with better fighter)
Martin has to get traded to resign Neal, they could trade him and a first round pick for Zach Bogosian
Why not take Bogosian out and add a decent, non-rental, low payed winger? If we add Bogosian we would have a long term d-man in him, plus we have Despres waiting for top-4 minutes. Morrow and Harrington will be ready before you know it, too. I think we need to trade away Martin, Engo and 1 draft pick (any round it takes) for a winger. Nisky would become top-4, Despres could live with 3rd pairing minutes til the end of the season IMO, and Lovejoy could be the 6th guy (I think he’s seriously underrated TBH). Picard, Burtuzzo, or Strait could be the healthy scratch and I think all 3 could fill that role decently. Maybe at the end of the year tender Nisky as a RFA ad hope another teams bites and give you a draft pick, put Despres in top 4, sign a 3rd pairing type of d-man, then have that guy you signed plus Lovejoy in on the third pairing.
I’m getting a little confused typing all of this, but thats just my opinion :P Feel free to tell me what I did wrong
In what world are you going to get Bogosian and WPG’s first round pick for Martin?
by Mario's Mullet on Feb 2, 2012 7:07 AM EST up reply actions
i think niskanen is the one to be traded. even though we all complain about martin and his salary, i wouldnt trust lovejoy or engelland in a top 4 spot in the playoffs. martin and michalek will come in handy for the playoffs. martin wont be moved this year unless someone overpays for him. besides, martin has a NTC and he will not want to waive that to be on a struggling team with no real shot at winning
I would let the older forwards test the market for an better offer and then sign any leftover in August to one year deals just keep them in the locker room. Even if we lose them, we can find free agent replacements/ older glory catchers at a bargain. Neal probably fits long term so I would try for 4 years at least to spread out some of the cap hit.
Our defensive depth is the opposite. Quality top-4 d-men are a rarity, as seen 2 summers ago with the opening salvos of wild free agent signings. Best trade bait we have is D-Engo since he has years on his contract, as much as I love the guy. He would probably get top-4 minutes elsewhere and eventually a pay raise from a move so it would benefit all parties in the long run. Especially if we could get a young talent with more than this year under contract and at the NHL level already. Martin has slightly underperformed to his salary and years left so I think he would be too much of a risk to another team, save one hemorrhaging goals from a season-ending injury of a player coming off the books. Martin also has a limited NTC.
Trades
Martin trade in the off season, but for Feb 27, Niskanen stays. Kennedy and Tangradi can be the Gogo for last year. We need a top six winger with good scoring touch. Kennedy ca’t do it.Asham, Park,Vitale,Cooke,Dupuis, all similar and its not that they are there for scoring, except maybe Dupuis.
Hence, we need scoring wiingers. Divide the F into 2 groups. The bottom 6 we have great depth, and top six as well, when they are healthy. Since injuries have been a major problem, Kunitz, Neal, Malkin are not enough to win in the playoffs.
Staal and Sid are coming back, you know.
by SlayerGhaleon on Feb 11, 2012 8:51 AM EST up reply actions
You’re out of your mind.
"It's a great day for hockey" - Badger Bob
by StripesForLife on Feb 10, 2012 7:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

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