Weathering the Storm- Mounting Injuries make playoffs an uphill battle
It's become almost a cosmic joke- the Pittsburgh Penguins can't even make it through a practice without a player suffering an injury.
After losing Jordan Staal (knee injury, out 4-6 weeks) in the Rangers game on Friday night and then James Neal (broken foot, out "weeks") in the Devils game Saturday night, Penguin forward Craig Adams threw his name into the injury hat going down with an apparent serious knee injury in practice on Sunday.
Adams and Neal were two of only six players (soon to be four) that have been able to suit up for all 40 of the Penguins games this season. The lucky (?) remaining are Pascal Dupuis (who's been dinged up), Matt Cooke, Chris Kunitz and the 38-year-old, previously injury-prone Steve Sullivan.
See, I told you it was some sort of cosmic joke. The ancient, brittle, tiny Sullivan has been around for every game but nearly every other player has suffered some injury, and quite a few of them of the serious variety.
If you can't have a chuckle about that as a Penguins fan after the first half of the 2011-12 season, then you're probably in tears.
After the jump- a plan to tread water in hopes of clinging to a playoff spot, potential lines (they're frightening) and a look at who is left to pick up the pieces and keep the season going.
With three points being awarded in the standings for OT games, the NHL is designed to keep teams lumped together and make for tight finishes after 82 games. Say what you will about the methodology, but it keeps things interesting. Though teams have played a differing amount of games, it's only a six-point difference between Ottawa (50 points in 5th place) and Washington (44 points in 10th place) right now. The Pens are right in the mix of that, currently sitting in 8th place in the Conference (46 points after 40 games).
Last year, the 8th seed in the East had 93 points, the year before that 88, and the year before that 93. So keep that in mind. If the Pens can get to 94 points, they're probably making the playoffs. That means they need to get 48 points the last 42 games. That's the equivalent of going 24-18, or some variation with OT losses figured in- so a record like 22-16-4 would do the trick. That's still winning a lot more than losing, and not losing in regulation is the key.
A key could be the All-Star break from Jan 24-31. When the Pens come back on Jan 31, will they be able to add any of Staal, Neal or Kris Letang? Those guys are all-star caliber players and their additions could kick things up a notch. To say nothing about the still in limbo Sidney Crosby whose status and communication about said status has been as murky as ever.
So, not counting on those guys, what's one way to hold the fort until then? How about these lines-
Sullivan-Malkin-Kennedy
Kunitz-Park-Dupuis
Cooke-Williams-Tangradi
MacIntyre/McDonald-Vitale-
Martin/Michalek
Orpik/Niskanen
Lovejoy/Engelland
It's going to be tough to win with that lineup, but in great challenges lie opportunity.
-Sullivan and Kennedy teamed with Malkin to form a wonderful, if very briefly lived, offensive line early in training camp. Playing with Kunitz hasn't seemed to suit Malkin, so why not try to open up more space for Malkin with new linemates?
-Look at that second line and its 2/3 of what used to be the first line many moons ago. No one's going to confuse Richard Park for Sidney Crosby anytime this century, but Park is an honest, hard-working player who will hustle, grind and give a good effort. That line won't have a ton of offensive pop, but they ought to be able to match up against any other line in the league.
-The third line gives Eric Tangradi yet another chance to make an impact in the NHL, and since there isn't a ton of skill (said in a way to be as kind as possible), ET25 will get a chance on the top PP screening the goalie. He may never get a better chance in the Penguins' organization to establish himself as an NHL player.
-Hey, remember that time Ray Shero kept Steve MacIntyre and waived a player who can actually play hockey in Nick Johnson? Shero doesn't whiff much, but I betcha he'd want a mulligan on that decision in hindsight.
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Talk about misses
but boy I would like to have a slumping Letestu back right about now.
Thats what she said! - Michael Gary Scott
Eh.. I disagree. I saw more than enough of him trying to play top line minutes. He has good work ethic and doesn’t make major mistakes, but it was downright painful just watching him try to hang offensively with his linemates.
Eh.. I disagree. I saw more than enough of him trying to play top line minutes. He has good work ethic and doesn’t make major mistakes, but it was downright painful just watching him try to hang offensively with his linemates.Then again, it’s not as though Park is an improvement in that category…
by SidgeniMalsby on Jan 9, 2012 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
im saying with the injuries, we could use his services at center
Thats what she said! - Michael Gary Scott
Not sure why it did the ol’ double post..
I know what you mean.. and I don’t have much of an argument against it other than I guess I just never really liked Letestu. Last season when Crosby and Malkin were out and Letestu was getting top line minutes he seemed to epitomize the Penguins. Great work ethic.. no finishing ability. Every game they would outwork and outshoot the other team but no one had the ability to finish a play and put the puck in the net, and it seemed to me that many many times it was Letestu who couldn’t finish the play.
by SidgeniMalsby on Jan 9, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
HArd to disagree, but let’s see how it’ll be any different with Richard Park and Joe Vitale getting big minutes in the next few games.
"You come at the King, you best not miss."
No doubt… I have no retort. Letestu would probably be an upgrade offensively over Park and Vitale
by SidgeniMalsby on Jan 10, 2012 10:31 AM EST up reply actions
Also
given the time table on Staal and Neal being out weeks, it also seems like Letang could be “weeks” away as well. Maybe you are correct in that they all return around the same time, which would be a HUGE boost, quite possibly right around the deadline in mid February.
Crosby is still the key to go the distance, as long as he is healthy by April we have as good a chance as anyone. If not, we need the likes of Staal, Neal, Letang and others to be on the ice.
Thats what she said! - Michael Gary Scott
Not just the injuries
It’s not just the injuries. The other players on the ice have to pick up their game, so far they haven’t specially on defense. Time to call back Despres, and start benching some players that are not playing up to par. Also playing style will have to change (more defensive) given the present roster .
The Hockey Dr.
Wow I have been gone for awhile. I think it’s a good time to rally the “FAIL FOR NAIL” chant, but in all seriousness we can’t fall that far down but we are in danger of missing the playoffs if this squad sinks leading to the deadline.
We should pick up Brule who is on re-entry waivers. I’d actually be mad if Shero doesn’t. He’s a good, cheap pickup for nothing and has an expiring contract.
I don’t think Shero trades future assets like 1st pick, Morrow, Despres, Harrington, Bennett, Das Kuhn for any rentals, that’d be stupid, considering our Cup chances without Sid or a remotely healthy team come playoff time are small.
Shut down Sid and Letang, don’t rush Neal or Staal, create a challenging lineup through waivers and minor trades. Hope for the best, get 100%, yes 100% and come back next year. Good thing it’s a deep draft. Trade up and get Galchenyuk.
Tangradi recalled. Yet another chance for this kid to finally make an impact. If he doesn’t do something this time around, his what, bazillionth chance to show something, I don’t think he ever will.
Yes because those 5-7 minutes playing with Adams and Asham have been such great opportunities. Yes, he hasn’t shown crap, but DB hasn’t given him the chance to. IF he remains in the top-6 even with how depleted and ugly it looks and doesn’t show promise then he’s done. He practiced with Dupuis and Kennedy those are good linemates.
I want him to succeed and I know PF’s take longer to develop so I’m hoping to see the Big Dog bring out his inner Malone this time up. But please DB, pleeeeeaaassee give him a legit shot instead of throwing someone like Williams, Vitale or Adams into the top-6. We have nothing to lose
by Geno McFleury on Jan 9, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
yeah this
Tangradi never gets quality time on the ice with players that can make him look better. Playing with the grind lines doesnt help your scoring chances. Let him maybe get out there with Geno and Sully, see what happens!
Thats what she said! - Michael Gary Scott
He has had plenty of chances. No matter who you play with, you can show your talents, with small plays, that the coach will notice. At ay rate lucky for him he gets an extended chance.I’ll say it’s now or never.
The Hockey Dr.
What? Of course it matters. He’s been thrown a line and a role where his main objective is to grind people down and he’s been limited in even doing that since he gets such limited time. Tangradi isn’t going to create chances by himself just like Adams, Asham, Vitale, etc. won’t. We really won’t know much until he’s a top 6 role and until that time has come there is NO reason to jump off the Big Dog Wagon. Malone took even longer to develop so why are we giving up on Tangradi?!?!
by Geno McFleury on Jan 9, 2012 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
I think there’s understood frustration with Tangradi for not sticking in the NHL, but I find the argument about his ice-time tough to buy. He’s had 41:35 in 4 games. That’s north of 10 minutes a game.
Realize that a lot of time is with grinders at even strength, but he can’t play a simple game and get pucks/ his body to the net? In 4 games he hasn’t shown it yet.
It’s not the best opportunity, no one expects top 6 production with 4th line minutes and teammates, but Tangradi’s failed to really flash at all. He’s gotta show something to earn more time, and I don’t think he has yet. Hopefully this trip will be different.
"You come at the King, you best not miss."
I like these lines, they’re almost identical to what I had come up with, but I’d put Tangradi with Kunitz and Dupuis so he gets a better chance to contribute with skilled players, and keep Park with Cooke and Williams. But that’s just me.
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I’ll never understand what the issue is between the Penguins and AHL scoring talent. Last year it was Sterling, this year McDonald. The team wants scoring talent, they’ve clearly got it, and yet they seem to actively refuse to use it. Like Tangradi playing with grinder lines, McDonald playing with grinder lines accomplishes nothing.
Because the coach trust guys like Dupuis and Cooke to go take a shift and keep the puck out of their own net. Obviously a guy like Sterling or McDonald has better hands, but do they think the game as well? Are they capable enough skaters to keep up with the speed of the NHL game? What happens when they don’t have the puck, are they comfortable and competent enough in the system to not be a negative?
I mean, I’d like to see some more opportunities too (Especially on the PP), but there’s a good reason AHL players are used in AHL roles and not given big time NHL chances. That reason being: they’re simply not as good, overall and all-around as NHL regulars.
"You come at the King, you best not miss."
What does everyone think about putting McDonald-Vitale-Tangradi on a line together(3rd line possibly)? Maybe the familiarity of recently having played down in Wilkes-Barre would help them.
And then there’s always the idea that was thrown around in the preseason with giving Engelland a shot at forward. He has looked good in joining the rush all year, and we could bring up Despres again to take his place on the back end.
My proposed lines, if they wanted to shake things up a bit:
Sullivan-Malkin-Kennedy
Kunitz-Dupuis-Cooke
McDonald-Vitale-Tangradi
Engelland-Park-Asham
Martin-Michalek
Orpik-Niskanen
Lovejoy-Despres
Not at all. We need Engo on the blue line. He’s been solid this year.
by Mario's Mullet on Jan 9, 2012 8:24 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I’m pretty uneasy with McDonald-Vitale-Tangradi as a checking line. I can’t say I really know enough about McDonald, but Tangradi has never really impressed me in the defensive zone. I’d be okay with Vitale centering a checking line, but I want at least one solid veteran on the wing to go against the top lines from other teams.
Jagr? I don't even know 'er.
This is so awful. This is the worst point in my life when in comes to being a die-hard Pittsburgh fan. The steelers got embarrassed. The penguins arent even the penguins anymore, they are some weird team of guys that resemble something like the pens used to be. The injuries are just retarded and devastating. Usually when the steelers get ousted the pens heal my wounds. This year with all the injuries they are just pouring salt in it. Am I supposed to be excited for the pirates then? I’m more excited about the bucs prospects in the minors than the actual team. Pitt basketball is even a joke this year. My sports life is definitely in the dumps and I had to get it off my chest. I guess this is some kind of therapy for me sadly. Will anybody tell me some good news that could possibly put me in a better mood?
Well Said
With the Steelers loss what a disappointment.
The Pens may not make they playoffs if they don’t start finding ways to win, with they
guys they have that are healthy. Good teams find a way. Doesn’t matter who is in or out:
good teams find a way to win.
Let’s all hope the Pens players and coaching staff figure this out.
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by HockeyFanInColorado on Jan 10, 2012 10:09 AM EST up reply actions
No shit, brother.
My brother sent me a text 10 min before kickoff, telling me about Staal and Neal. Made for an unholy alliance of shittiness.
by HandsofSweed on Jan 10, 2012 7:02 PM EST up reply actions
Sell, Sell, Sell!!
Everyone not named Crosby, Malkin, Staal, Fleury, Neal is available! Time to blow up this roster for draft picks. Park for a 3rd rounder? Sure. Sullivan for a second rounder, Ok! Orpik for a first, second, and roster player? Ok!!!
In all seriousness, it’s time to rebuild for next year, and the year after. It might require making painful choices now, but it is time to ready ourselves for a rough road ahead.
"Oh, buy Sam a drink and get his dog one too!" - Mike Lange
by gorgalor on Jan 10, 2012 2:32 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
why blow it up
when most of these guys are under contract for years after this like Z, Martin, Orpik, Letang, etc…
We need to resign Neal IMO
Thats what she said! - Michael Gary Scott
I’m not even sure what world you live in if you think Park is worth a third-round pick, Sullivan a second, and Orpik a first, second and roster player.
by Mario's Mullet on Jan 10, 2012 6:31 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions






















