Mario Lemieux was much closer to moving the Penguins than he'd like you to think
It has become trendy in recent years to play revisionist historian and pretend the Penguins were never in any real danger of leaving Pittsburgh circa 2007. That, one way or another, the franchise's ownership group, helmed by Mario Lemieux, was always going to figure things out and make sure the Penguins never, ever, ever left Pittsburgh. Anything said otherwise was simply a negotiating tactic.
As Lemieux said in August 2008, a year-and-a-half after the Penguins finalized the deal that led to the creation of the CONSOL Energy Center:
Mario Lemieux says the Penguins never were serious about leaving Pittsburgh.
"It wasn't a possibility," Lemieux said during a groundbreaking ceremony Thursday for Pittsburgh's $290 million hockey arena."We had to do a few things to put pressure on the city and the state, but our goal was to remain here in Pittsburgh all the way. Those trips to Kansas City and Vegas and other cities was just to go and have a nice dinner, and come back."
During that tense 2007, as the Penguins' lease of the Mellon Arena neared its conclusion and threats to relocate the franchise hit at the pit of a frequently disheartened fan base's collective stomach, the Lemieux Group entered relocation negotiations with a number of cities desperate to land an NHL team.
Kansas City looked to be the odds on favorite, and made perhaps the most compelling pitch for the Penguins, but there were others in play too. Like Kansas City, Lemieux and Burkle visited Las Vegas to discuss moving the team. And they spoke with representatives from Houston. And Oklahoma City. Even Hartford and Hamilton, ONT. were still possibilities.
But, according to Lemieux again, it was all a clever ploy. A chance to go have "dinner" on another city's bill.
To fall in line with this logical leap requires a good bit of of George Lucas-esque retconing, where what the ownership group said and did in the past wasn't really what they meant. Where the mastermind had something completely different than what all evidence indicated in mind.
Instead of making Greedo shoot first, proving Han Solo to be less of a scoundrel and more a benevolent practitioner of self defense, we're making the Lemieux Group far less interested in the bottom line, and far more interested in lofty, idealistic goals.
Of course, this isn't true.
In "Breakaway: The Inside Story of the Pittsburgh Penguins' rebirth," author Andrew Conte is able to piece together quotes from a number of Penguins sources intimately involved in discussions at the time that show how close to a reality the franchise moving actually was.
Ken Sawyer, CEO of the Penguins from 2006 through early 2010:
If the governor ever pulled the deal off the table in Pennsylvania, the team was not going to be in Pittsburgh," said Sawyer later. "Whether it was going to Kansas City or not, I don't know, but there was no future. You had to lay the groundwork for eventualities.
David Morehouse, President of the Penguins since April 2007:
Later that afternoon, Morehouse called a conference call with Burkle, Lemieux, Sawyer and Chuck Greenburg. "Listen, this is where they are," Morehouse said. "They're not getting the message. We've tried everything. We're going to have to explore a move."
Ron Burkle, co-owner of the Penguins since 1999:
If the decision had been only about the best offer on paper, the Penguins might have gone. Talk about moving to Kansas City had been real. "Things started dragging out" on the Pittsburgh negotiations, Burkle said. "Then we kinda lost faith that we were going to get a deal done, because we didn't feel like there was any motivation to get something done. So we had to face reality. ... We had to go out and get busy and figure out what our alternatives were."
All of this being said, the Lemieux Group did save the Penguins. They did save the team from liquidation, and made it very obvious that they wanted to keep the Penguins in Pittsburgh. That was always the group's first choice, and there should really be no argument to the contrary. And it is through Lemieux's ownership that the Penguins have become a modernized, consistently successful franchise.
But to go back and pretend that there was no real shot of the Penguins moving, that it was all some silly game, is disingenuous at best.
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I don’t think this changes anything in terms of Lemieux’s status as Savior of the Franchise. From a business standpoint, he was doing what had to be done. All that matters is that he wanted the team to stay in Pittsburgh and, in the end he (and others) made that happen.
At the end of the day it is “all’s well that ends well”. Lemieux got his arena, solidified the franchise in Pittsburgh and his stock in the Penguins will be a lot more than what he would have gotten out of bankruptcy or a potential sale.
I don’t blame him for being frustrated with dealing with Pennsylvania state politicians and exploring the option to move. Is there any doubt that if Lemieux didn’t force the hand, the funding would have never been found? It’s obviously tough times and the whole slots thing was a fortunate avenue to take at the right time, but the politicians dragged feet and made empty promises for years.
If Lemieux never used his trump card, no reason to think that would have ever changed. And you can just throw that card out there if you’re not willing to go through with it. Not a big issue to me.
"You come at the King, you best not miss."
by Hooks Orpik on Feb 14, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
Like you said, the key is that they stayed.
And I’m certain that the main intent all along was to keep the Pens in Pittsburgh. The Lemieux Group saved the team and helped make it relevant again. That deserves a tonnnnnnnnnnnnn of credit.
I’m just in a (probably small) camp that wants the history to be straight on this. You run into a lot of articles that say it was all a ploy done to make Rendell and the others look silly after that Rossi piece came out. That’d be cool if it was true, but when you really look into things, it isn’t. Reading that book, those quotes confirmed it to me.
I’ve still got a pair of #66 shirts. I wear them. Sickest player I’ll probably ever get to see. No intention to say ‘hate Lemieux!’ But I’m just saying to call BS when you hear BS.
As for the empty promises stuff… it’s easy for things to change when it comes to public money and a topsy turvy economy. You can understand the ownership’s position at the time (even if you didn’t like it), but you also have to understand the government’s position at the time too.
by Stephen Catanese on Feb 14, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
If he’d wanted to take the easy “business” approach, the team would be in Kansas City. He went the extra mile to keep the team in the burgh when he had no ACTUAL obligation to do so. Maybe his quotes after the fact are a bit of revisionist history (the only person who knows how close Lemieux came to moving the team is Lemieux) but that doesn’t change the fact that he did in fact save the franchise….again
Good timing
Well I’m glad all the foot dragging went on when the economy was in good shape. I think it is naive to ever even suggest that moving the Penguins wasn’t an option. Of course it was. They didn’t want to move the team, I think they saw a good fan base and a franchise that could succeed with a new building as a better choice than starting from scratch elsewhere. Same can be said the Isles who have been fighting their politcians for years as well. Unfortunatley for them they’re doing so under the cloud of a soft economy, one where municipalities don’t want to spend anything… That didn’t happen in Pittsburgh and as someone said earlier. All’s well that end’s well!
Gary Bettman
deserves some credit in all of this in terms of getting involved in those meetings with both Mario and the governor. Showing the NHL wanted to keep the team in Pittsburgh during that crucial time was important in the big picture.
As for Mario, we must remember he signed a contract while a player which the prior ownership failed to uphold. Fortunately, he decided to take the option of a share of the franchise at that time. If the negotiations had ultimately failed, I wouldn’t have blamed Lemieux one bit for relocating the franchise.
Safe to say everything has turned out pretty well since then.
by SteelStealth on Feb 14, 2012 8:51 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
It blows my mind that Bettman gets so heavily booed. We may laugh at him trying to keep the Coyotes in Phoenix, but he was a huge, huge proponent of keeping the Penguins in Pittsburgh and, in many ways, was the main reason Jim Balsille’s bid to buy the team fell through… he wanted so many caveats included in the purchase agreement that Balsille pulled out.
by Stephen Catanese on Feb 14, 2012 10:50 PM EST up reply actions
Good point, Stephen
I forgot about Balsille’s bid, we know he wanted to put a club in Hamilton, despite the public remarks he made. Had Balsille purchased the Pens, he had no personal connection to the area, and a Hamilton relocation would have been a real possibility.
by SteelStealth on Feb 14, 2012 11:07 PM EST up reply actions
If Baldsilly got the team there is zero doubt they would have ended up in Southern Ontario. Good point about Bettman… say what you want about the man, he does his job well. What is the job of the Commissioner of a professional sporting league? To make the owners happy. Hockey is more popular than it has ever been and makes more money than ever before.
by SidgeniMalsby on Feb 15, 2012 12:12 AM EST up reply actions
KC Penguins
I’m glad you guys enjoyed the book. One of my favorite lines is Rendell saying: Without slots, the Penguins are in Kansas City and the Kansas City Penguins just won the Stanley Cup. Puts things in perspective.
Going through former Mayor Tom Murphy’s records recently, I turned up some new info on the Penguins that has never been reported: The team had a deal in place as early as 2003 — a year before slots were legalized — to use gambling money to pay for an arena. The owners of Mountaineer Racetrack offered to put up $60 million, which was the gap in the public funding at the time. In return, Mountaineer wanted a racetrack for Allegheny County and slot machines. The Penguins wanted a new arena (of course) and … wait for it … the Civic Arena to be demolished.
All in good time, I guess. Just never knew it was in the works so early on.
AC
by andrew.c.conte on Feb 15, 2012 4:48 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Andrew, this is great.
Thanks for stopping by and sharing something like that. Surely, something like that falling through with Murphy after, by the looks of it, being pretty well planned out, definitely had to add some added string.
When you were covering this, did you ever have a moment when you thought that there was a real, real possibility of the deal not going through? Or, even, a period of time where you thought they were more likely to move than stay?
by Stephen Catanese on Feb 15, 2012 8:23 PM EST up reply actions
At the end
By the time they were going back to KC for a second visit, we knew they were getting very close to a move. The arena deal there — as Burkle later confirmed — was worth more upfront money. As one of your contributors pointed out above, the hitch there was that the Pens did not have a built-in fan base.
I was surprised during the reporting of Breakaway how close the team came to leaving even after that. Like many people, I had assumed that the final meeting was all smiles and handshakes. It blew me away that even then the deal nearly fell apart.
AC
by andrew.c.conte on Feb 16, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions

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