Gameday- Pens recall Tangradi and goalie Brad Thiessen before New York Rangers game
After a 6-2 drubbing where the Pens looked pretty lifeless against the Buffalo Sabres, Ray Shero's made a few call-ups. He's brought back Eric Tangradi and goalie Brad Thiessen from Wilkes-Barre. Both are intriguing, for different reasons.
Tangradi, who turned just 23 earlier this month, has played 12 games in Pittsburgh this year, mostly in a 4th line role and has been unable to generate any points. He continues to produce at the AHL level, but there are questions about if his skating and style make him a viable player in Dan Bylsma's system. Was Tangradi called up to get him in NHL action prior to next Monday's trade deadline? It seems like a possibility. Or is this just yet another chance for the young power forward to get an opportunity. Time will tell, but it seems like it is running out for Tangradi in the Penguins organization if he doesn't get it together quickly.
After veteran Brent Johnson had another poor outing in the Buffalo game, the Thiessen promotion is a head-turning one as well. Thiessen, the AHL goalie of the year last year, has regressed back to earth this season with a so-so year so far in the minors. But most in the organization believe he could be the NHL backup goalie of the future, and the only way to see if that is the case is to give him some NHL chances. After a few solid seasons, Johnson has had a rough year and hasn't been able to spell Marc-Andre Fleury. The Pens badly need to limit Fleury's appearances and giving Thiessen a chance might be the best bet. (Or of course, Fleury or Johnson may just be ill or have some sort of unreported small injury, often a cause of the game-day goalie call-up).
Either way, you lose 6-2 in the NHL and you can bet some changes are coming. Ben Lovejoy has been a frequent healthy scratch and one wonders if he could see some game time soon. Brooks Orpik did not take the morning skate today and didn't practice yesterday- which Bylsma called a maintenance day but perhaps could be more.
Below, the lines used in practice this morning.
Kunitz-Malkin-Neal
Sullivan-Staal-Dupuis
Cooke-Vitale-Asham
Tangradi-Adams-Park
(Jeffrey, O'Reilly)
Is Dustin Jeffrey really going to be the odd man out? He's played some of his best hockey in recent games and wouldn't seem like the obvious candidate to take a seat. We'll see how Bylsma is going to work it tonight when the Pens take on the conference leading New York Rangers.
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Orpik out tonight with an upper-body injury that Bylsma said isn’t serious. (But then again January 2011 he said Crosby would miss 1 week).
"You come at the King, you best not miss."
Ha
…Bylsma said isn’t serious. (But then again January 2011 he said Crosby would miss 1 week)
The part in bold should follow every Bylsma statement re: an injured player.
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by Diomedes7 on Feb 21, 2012 3:29 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I asked during the Tampa gamethread last week about calling up a goalie..I wonder why now, he’s not going to play until Saturday or Sunday..and I would prefer the latter.
by jedmiller71 on Feb 21, 2012 12:08 PM EST via mobile reply actions
According to Bylsma, Johnson is feeling sick and Thiessen will be the backup. We’ll see what their future plans are as to which backup goalie gets playing time for a weekend game.
"You come at the King, you best not miss."
by Hooks Orpik on Feb 21, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
Looks like you nailed it with that bit in parentheses, Hooks – per Bylsma, Johnson is sick and can’t suit up today. I believe DB also specifically said it was a short-term move, so Johnson’s job appears to be safe (for now, at least).
Additionally, Bylsma commented on the Tangradi callup, noting that he’s looking to get some more physicality and snarl in his bottom-six. If so, I guess that explains the impending Jeffrey scratch; he’s clearly the least physical of the guys currently on the bottom two lines. I don’t necessarily agree with it, but that seems to be Bylsma’s rationale.
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by wg1of5 on Feb 21, 2012 12:52 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
I guess that explains the impending Jeffrey scratch; he’s clearly the least physical of the guys currently on the bottom two lines.
I guess you’re right, but I share your sentiment. Jeffrey’s at least got 2 goals in his past 5 games, which while admittedly isn’t Art Ross worthy but it’s a lot more production than most the other non Kunitz/Malkin/Neal members of the forwards.
"You come at the King, you best not miss."
You put it right Hooks:
Or is this just yet another chance for the young power forward to get an opportunity.
How many opps is this guy going to get before finally doing something. And don’t forget about DJ’s knee. Those things can tighten up out of no where, so maybe he’s having some stiffness/soreness after this past week where we played a lot of hockey.
But I will give you that I don’t agree scratching DJ. You say you need other players than the top line scoring, and the one guy who is you take out?
We need a backup goalie
Does Conklin have anything left? Is there anybody worth trading for?
by Steeler Nation VA on Feb 21, 2012 2:12 PM EST reply actions
Conklin is done. Tangradi is another “Caputi trade”, in the making for Shero.
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by Outcast on Feb 21, 2012 2:26 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Hopefully he brings back something better than a Ponikarovsky.
"You come at the King, you best not miss."
I would hope so.
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by Outcast on Feb 21, 2012 11:23 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Conks is done. There will be some veteran backups available, but would be better if Thiessen is able to backup. Would be cool to see him get a start this weekend. Maybe CLS?
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That would sound good to me. Or do you give the vet, Johnny, one more crack at it against one of the weaker teams in the league?
"You come at the King, you best not miss."
they need to start Thiessen. BJ has had plenty of chances, other than the 1-0 game the pens lost to Toronto, he has been shaky all season imo
I wish they would pickup Ty off waivers and just waive BJ and be done with it.
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What is your difference between giving Thiessen a chance and giving up on BJ so easily, especially when they both have had disappointing seasons this year, but were stellar last year?
Probably the same rationale a lot of Pens fans have about Paul Martin, who was stellar last year and not so good this year.
by SlayerGhaleon on Feb 21, 2012 6:23 PM EST up reply actions
just guessing, but the coaching staff may have seen enough of Johnny for a little while.
overall, Thiessen’s season has been mediocre, but lately he’s been stout—so at least his confidence is peaking.
i like Johnny, but don’t think he has the necessary confidence right now and the team prob doubts him, too.
Flower needs a rest, and i hope they give Thiessen a shot.
at a minimum, the team is likely to play better in front of him.
plus, it helps to see what he may/may not have.
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I surely hope that Shero is smarter than trading Tangradi, especially as only a throw in for another rent-a-player.
One of my biggest gripes with Dylsma is his use of Tangradi. I’m sorry but you don’t plug Tangradi on the fourth line, play him under ten minutes a game and expect to see anything resembling his game from the AHL, where he gets top line minutes and PP time.
You see this all over the NHL and it’s flat out not fair to the callups. On most teams these players domintating the AHL are called up and instead of putting them into a role similiar to the one they were called up for in the first place, they get relegated to the third and fourth lines. Max Pacioretty flat out said last year that if they’re gonna call him up and play him on the third line that he’d rather stay in the AHL, he got huge flak for it but look at him now. Looks like he was bang on.
So let’s put these guys in roles they’re comfortable with and thus have the best chance at success. I for one believe in Tangradi’s potential, i mean how many 6’4 220 pound behemoths with a nose for the net do we have?
And is it possible that Tangradi will never be anything more than a carreer AHLer? Sure, but the Pens have yet to actually give him a chance to prove otherwise…
I agree with you that last year in the playoffs, when our PP was absolutely atrocious, our only goal against TB was with ET in front of the net. However, he’s has more than enough chances since then to come up and show that he should be moved up to one of the top two lines, not a bottom six. Every time he has been called up this season, he’s hasn’t shown that he deserves any more time.
Agree with you.
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by Outcast on Feb 21, 2012 11:28 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
He also had significant PP time, and has not shown anything . Good players create their chances. Tangradi also had time with Sid and Geno.
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